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Willholbert09 1 point ago +6 / -5

I don't know about the ethnic issues between Ukraine/Russia, I guess there are multiple ethnicities in Ukraine/Russia, like ALL countries. But just because you don't agree with your government doesn't mean you can start civil war. What government willfully stand for this? not China, not Syria, not Russia.. except for the controlled Muslim lands where Russia owns the warlords to shut down the extremism..

As far as fascism.. the current Russian program under Putin defines "fascism".

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War_Hamster 2 points ago +2 / -0

the current Russian program under Putin defines "fascism

I get your argument. I'm exhausted and can't articulate my counter, but there's a difference, I think, that makes that label a bit inaccurate. I'm sure we can get into this another time when I can present a better case than "I disagree".

The ethnic/religious issues are important to this story, and it really does go back quite some time. Some interpretations of history suggest this is a story that matters more than we'd think. I'm not an expert on the history of the region, but have read enough to think that it's something to be aware of.

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Willholbert09 3 points ago +4 / -1

yeah, bottom line. stop invading other countries if you don't want trouble.. Unless you are America, or our ally. Or Russia lol

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War_Hamster 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yes, but who is invading who?

The US trying to get Ukraine into NATO was a direct threat to Russia. Same with some of the military bases encroaching closer to Russia's borders.

I'm not a fan of US foreign policy going back quite some time, but don't look at the world in a binary manner.

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tallon 1 point ago +2 / -1

Yeah because Russia invaded Crimea. Putin is an actual Russian supremacist, since he seems to believe that all post soviet countries as well as Ukraine still belong to him and Russia.

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Willholbert09 1 point ago +1 / -0

Who invaded who? Russia invaded Ukraine. That is as simple as it gets.

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funkytown 2 points ago +3 / -1

just because you don't agree with your government doesn't mean you can start civil war

The founders of the United States of America would disagree with you there.

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kjj9 2 points ago +3 / -1

The founding fathers wrote a lengthy document explaining that mere disagrement wasn't enough of a reason to do what they were about to do.

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funkytown 2 points ago +3 / -1

when you can't vote them out, what choice have you got left?

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tallon 1 point ago +2 / -1

Vote who out? What are you talking about?