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posted ago by Crankyboy ago by Crankyboy +21 / -1

I see a ton of Pedes cheering on Russia in the conflict in Ukraine without any idea of what is going on. Russia annexed Crimea in 2014 and invaded Eastern Ukraine. The Far-Right Nationalists were the ones fighting back the Russians while the Ukrainian army was in shambles. What you have now is an area called Donbas on the Russian boarder that is under the control of Pro-Russian Separatists. Many of those "Separatists" are mercenaries on pay roll by Russia. In fact, many of the "Separatists" killed in the fighting turned out to be Russian Military.

Many of the people flooding Donbas to fight for the "Separatists" are the Far-Left. (Buzzfeed has written about this.) This Leftist makes videos on Youtube about fighting for the "Separatists" and talking about how they are going to kill the "Ukrainian Fascists" and about how much he "Hates Trump."

Just because Russia has some Based things you like, does not mean that invading Ukraine is Just or Right. It's literally a distraction from Putin's tanking approval ratings after his botched assassination of his political opponent Alexei Navalny, and Alexei's documentary that exposed the insane amount of money and land he has stolen from the Russia people. Putin's palace - History of world's largest bribe

Ukraine is attracting Americans who want to fight alongside far-right extremists.

Far Left American fighting against Ukrainian Nazis

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PermaHandshake 0 points ago +1 / -1

illegally annexed.... hahahahahhahahaha. There's an oxy-moron if I ever heard one. Did they annex it successfully? Then it was legal.

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gushgosh 1 point ago +1 / -0

We could say the same for immigration.

No, ukraine has laws on the subject.

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PermaHandshake 1 point ago +1 / -0

Does Ukraine have a military to enforce their laws? If they don't use their military to enforce their laws then their law is meaningless.

Illegal immigration works when countries build walls and deport the illegals because they have the force to enforce said laws. You are correct that when you open the borders and treat illegal immigrants better than citizens that the "legal" distinction becomes pointless.

Laws are only meaningful when they are enforced, otherwise, they are meaningless. I could make up a law today that says anyone who disagrees with me is a faggot. Now you're a faggot and it's by law. If you try to say you aren't a faggot you're saying something illegal. It's 100% irrelevant.

I get that you like Ukraine and I love Ukraine as well. Trust me. Russia is better for Ukraine than the west 1000x over. The west destroys countries and makes them hallow shells to be used as nothing more than resource extraction colonies. The west destroys unity, destroys traditions, destroys cultures and completely effects societies with their leftist poison that destroys families and keeps people spiritually frustrated and ensures their only purpose in life is to enhance the power and wealth of the western elites.

Russia is corrupt and not nearly as wealthy but it has spirit, unity, tradition and culture that it protects. Ukraine will never be able to combat the west on its own because it is wholly unprepared for it. Every other country in Europe has fallen to western influence or is close to. Russia would be good for Ukraine over the long-term.

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gushgosh 1 point ago +1 / -0

Same thing for immigration.

Actually any crime then.

Raping kids is not illegal but because most pedos rape kids they know and the kids don't tell anyone.

You see what you are saying without realizing?

Russia is a great nation, of great people, but putin sorta stands in the way and unfortunately they don't have many better candidates with enough traction.

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PermaHandshake 1 point ago +1 / -0

Correct, there's nothing illegal about raping kids unless someone declares it illegal and then enforces it.

Immoral might be a better word than illegal because you can make a moral argument about things without necessarily having a legal backing.

What issues does Putin stand in the way on? I agree that there aren't any better leaders. That's always how it goes though. No leader is perfect. At least Putin generally as a whole has the right idea.

In this discussion, it's Ukraine that worries me. I worry if Ukraine successfully appeals to the west for aid in maintaining its sovereignty against Russia, it will be a deal with the devil and Ukraine will be culturally dominated by the west. Western cultural domination is infinitely worse than losing sovereignty to Russia, in my opinion.