So an attack on a courthouse while in operation, trying to prevent judges from actually deciding cases, that plainly is, uhm, domestic extremism, uhm, domestic terrorism. An attack simply on a government property at night…or any other kind of circumstances, is a clear crime and a serious one and should be punished. I don’t mean…I don’t know enough about the facts of the example you’re talking about, but that’s where I draw the line. One is…both are criminal, but one is a core attack on our democratic institutions.
They wait for people to forget about it and then they offer a plea deal for probation or drop the charges altogether. Meanwhile if you entered the open doors of the capitol building you are a terrorist facing decades.
Kinda disagree with Ngo here, about it being more difficult due to trust. Its not like they're going to be held in custody or anything. This criminal clown was charged with 5 felonies and released within a day without bail. Zero consequences, zero ramifications.
I'd say having a snitch at all will be somewhat demoralizing, especially with the ideological purity required from the Left.
Hopefully the informant goes to Project Veritas or Andy Gno as well, which would likely be of greater concern to Antifa. For charges to be brought at all, they must have compelling evidence.
They've had snitches/informants/glowies among them from the start. They are just now starting to bring info to the authorities, now that Trump is no longer in power. BLM and Antifa have always been tools for the left, and now the tools are acting outside their intended purpose. The left will now try to rein them in, but I think they've created something they won't be able to control, as people don't necessarily need much organization to riot, and they have learned how easy it is to get away with it in commie areas.
I think we're about to see a combination of the commies solidifying federal power while purging their useful idiots. Once they are purged they'll ramp up the aggression towards us, or maybe do their best to funnel aggression towards more right-leaning areas. It's going to get wild.
How much you wanna bet the FBI has had "informants" in BLM-ANTIFA the whole time. The FBIs informants are likely funded and contracted out by some CIA shell corporation whose mission is stir up the pot and make arrests as ordered.
Seems kinda obvious when the DOJ has yet to go after these extremest groups under RICO.
That is kind of like saying that the boy scouts are an idea. While yes, they stand behind some kind of political ideology. They are not lone rangers. They do have meetings and other communications. I've heard of them referring to their divisions as chapters.
It's projection. White supremacy is just an idea. The KKK was just Democrats including Robert Byrd. They are no longer relevant. There is no white supremacy group, it's just an idea that a very very few amount of people have.
It's their counter to absolve them of anything, oh it's just an idea so if anyone does anything bad you can't blame us, it's on that one person, when it reality they are organized, it's a mob, and it's very much their plan.
An idea doesn't have a flag, divisions, communications, people all dressed uniformly, and rallies. That's an organization.
I am shocked that they don't have more informants. Or they might, but are keeping quite until they can revile the whole network. Which would mean that this was more of a call to lock down their network. Once they grow suspicious, I am sure that they are going to disconnect from their mother-ship.
On the contrary, I find it incredible that anyone would defect. You're all but insulated from criminal charges and will always be bailed out; if cash bail even exists! Righteously smash shit, steal whatever you want, with public and corporate support. Plus doing it anonymously must produce a thrill in addition to everything else. I imagine some fancy themselves superheroes donning a secret identity to fight evil.
Imo the real reason why it's surprising to find a defector is because leftist anarchist groups have methods for weeding out those who aren't truly one of them.
You have to be all-in for the cause in order to get anywhere in an anarchist group. If they sniff out any fear or hesitation to do whatever it takes, they know you're not one of them.
Source: A fbi file I read on wikileaks once, detailing the reasons why they find it difficult to infiltrate anarchist groups. I'm having trouble finding it again.
I'm just guessing based on their track record, but I bet if they found out there was an informant within their ranks, they'd straightup murder that person. They'd Sonny Corleone that snitch.
It's funny how carefree antifa/blm are about opsec. They have no idea the real capabilities of the police/feds because they are allowed to operate with impunity.
If these were right wing activists planning arson, assaults, looting, etc on public chat app groups they'd be rounded up in the planning stages, never even see the streets.
The police would have cell data for every person even near the crime, the FBI would be knocking on doors the next morning, putting them under surveillance, etc.
On January 6th you had an Army veteran who went into the capitol building, who didn't commit any arson or assault, and is still being held without bail to this day.
Meanwhile you have this guy who committed arson (which used to be a very serious crime), who just walks free.
She is a 19 year-old journalism student at the University of Oregon. Big surprise, I know.
"The informant observed the defendant pour a flammable liquid on the building from three plastic bottles which the informant described as having labels which were either blacked out or taped over with black tape," the affidavit says. "The informant further explained that when the defendant was pouring the liquid on the fire and causing the fire to grow, one of the bottles caught on fire and started to melt."
The informant allegedly witnessed Raven-Guido place all three bottles into her backpack, court records say.
Portland Police officer Ken Le told prosecutors that after a large fire was reportedly ignited, "police obtained information from an informant that the defendant was one of the people responsible for the fire."
The informant reportedly provided a description of Raven-Guido and her alleged "actions associated with the fire," court filings say. Officer Le then arrested her with the assistance of Officer Ryan Potter, according to the affidavit. They then searched Raven-Guido's backpack, where they reportedly found lighters and plastic bottles containing "what appeared to be an accelerant." Prosecutors allege that one of the bottles they recovered was partially melted.
Be that guy. Risking his life to inform on the neo marxists. No government or real police backing, if they get doxed would they even prosecute the killer?
TFW assuming the prosecution will see something like this through against AntiFA. If they had their way the guy who shot a Trump supporter would have walked.
This is why any "organized" group is a bad idea. They're always infiltrated by FBI sooner or later. It doesn't matter if it is a left-wing or right-wing group.
5 felonies... Released 🤡🤡🤡🌎
Need 5 clown heads here.
How does one get released after attempting to BURN DOWN A POLICE BUILDING.
What the fuck! Honk Honk.
They voted for this. Fuck em.
Anarchy is contagious. When you don't enforce law and order, crime spreads like wildfire.
That being said, not much we can, we're not in charge. Protect your own.
We don't know who voted anymore. It's all rigged.
But yet video the killing of Ashli Babbit and get thrown in jail. Hmmm...
That guy was uuhm the sort of uuhm slowest and dumbest uuhm lawyer I ever saw
Bill Bagpipes Barr is a snek, but he’s not stupid
Portland D.A. Doug Schmidt feels a vast array of crimes including Felony Arson fall under "freedom of speech rights".
Without bail. Seriously??
They wait for people to forget about it and then they offer a plea deal for probation or drop the charges altogether. Meanwhile if you entered the open doors of the capitol building you are a terrorist facing decades.
Some didn't even entered the capitol building. Just being there was enough to be harassed by the FBI shitheads.
Soros was clever when he realized he could apply law asymmetrically by buying the district attorneys in targeted regions.
Yup like SF, LA and Portland
Does that mean people should be putting pressure on district attorneys then?
It was at night so it's not terrorism terrorism.
with no bail...
Geez
They need an informant in their local government
Kinda disagree with Ngo here, about it being more difficult due to trust. Its not like they're going to be held in custody or anything. This criminal clown was charged with 5 felonies and released within a day without bail. Zero consequences, zero ramifications.
I'd say having a snitch at all will be somewhat demoralizing, especially with the ideological purity required from the Left.
Hopefully the informant goes to Project Veritas or Andy Gno as well, which would likely be of greater concern to Antifa. For charges to be brought at all, they must have compelling evidence.
They've had snitches/informants/glowies among them from the start. They are just now starting to bring info to the authorities, now that Trump is no longer in power. BLM and Antifa have always been tools for the left, and now the tools are acting outside their intended purpose. The left will now try to rein them in, but I think they've created something they won't be able to control, as people don't necessarily need much organization to riot, and they have learned how easy it is to get away with it in commie areas.
I think we're about to see a combination of the commies solidifying federal power while purging their useful idiots. Once they are purged they'll ramp up the aggression towards us, or maybe do their best to funnel aggression towards more right-leaning areas. It's going to get wild.
How much you wanna bet the FBI has had "informants" in BLM-ANTIFA the whole time. The FBIs informants are likely funded and contracted out by some CIA shell corporation whose mission is stir up the pot and make arrests as ordered.
Seems kinda obvious when the DOJ has yet to go after these extremest groups under RICO.
This. A whole tenth the American communist party at its peak was FBI agents, I'd be surprised if antifa wasn't the same.
Who is John Brennan
Right, Ngo is way off because the police and antifa trust EACH OTHER. It's two sides of the same marxist coin.
What do you expect, he was arrested inside Chinese territory. That sound crazy, but everything makes much more sense when you realize that
How do you infiltrate an informant into an idea?
That is kind of like saying that the boy scouts are an idea. While yes, they stand behind some kind of political ideology. They are not lone rangers. They do have meetings and other communications. I've heard of them referring to their divisions as chapters.
It's projection. White supremacy is just an idea. The KKK was just Democrats including Robert Byrd. They are no longer relevant. There is no white supremacy group, it's just an idea that a very very few amount of people have.
It's their counter to absolve them of anything, oh it's just an idea so if anyone does anything bad you can't blame us, it's on that one person, when it reality they are organized, it's a mob, and it's very much their plan.
An idea doesn't have a flag, divisions, communications, people all dressed uniformly, and rallies. That's an organization.
Well, the local DA won't charge them, and it's not like we're going to see federal charges from President Potato.
FIVE FREAKING FELONIES, NO BAIL?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
I am shocked that they don't have more informants. Or they might, but are keeping quite until they can revile the whole network. Which would mean that this was more of a call to lock down their network. Once they grow suspicious, I am sure that they are going to disconnect from their mother-ship.
On the contrary, I find it incredible that anyone would defect. You're all but insulated from criminal charges and will always be bailed out; if cash bail even exists! Righteously smash shit, steal whatever you want, with public and corporate support. Plus doing it anonymously must produce a thrill in addition to everything else. I imagine some fancy themselves superheroes donning a secret identity to fight evil.
yeah but what changed is that Ted Wheeler is sick of their crap because a Democrat won the presidency.
*stole the presidency
Imo the real reason why it's surprising to find a defector is because leftist anarchist groups have methods for weeding out those who aren't truly one of them.
You have to be all-in for the cause in order to get anywhere in an anarchist group. If they sniff out any fear or hesitation to do whatever it takes, they know you're not one of them.
Source: A fbi file I read on wikileaks once, detailing the reasons why they find it difficult to infiltrate anarchist groups. I'm having trouble finding it again.
I too would be interested in that file if you remember where you found it.
fbi informants are the ones in leadershit positions running things.
I'd expect that many of them are also working from the inside.
There may be more than you think and not only within that specific locale or group ;)
I know there is. They are pretty active on platforms outside the mainstream
I'm just guessing based on their track record, but I bet if they found out there was an informant within their ranks, they'd straightup murder that person. They'd Sonny Corleone that snitch.
It's funny how carefree antifa/blm are about opsec. They have no idea the real capabilities of the police/feds because they are allowed to operate with impunity.
If these were right wing activists planning arson, assaults, looting, etc on public chat app groups they'd be rounded up in the planning stages, never even see the streets.
The police would have cell data for every person even near the crime, the FBI would be knocking on doors the next morning, putting them under surveillance, etc.
On January 6th you had an Army veteran who went into the capitol building, who didn't commit any arson or assault, and is still being held without bail to this day.
Meanwhile you have this guy who committed arson (which used to be a very serious crime), who just walks free.
Arson remains a serious crime. Just try doing it without the establishment's tacit approval and sponsorship.
Really, when I was a kid arson was up there with rape or murder. It was taken extremely seriously.
Now we see kids lighting police stations on fire, federal courthouses, and just getting slapped on the wrist. It's fucking crazy.
https://kekpe.pe/i/60784cdb3c871.png
She is a 19 year-old journalism student at the University of Oregon. Big surprise, I know.
Released without bail. That is crazy. When is the DA going to drop the charges?
What is the point of planting an informant so you know exactly who to charge if you're going to just release them?
Duh, they're not going to get rid of their useful idiots yet. But they may need to do so later.
Charged with 5 felonies and released WITHOUT BAIL is the bigger issue.
https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1618485992475.jpg
Tranarchist! My fucking sides.
Plant Daddy... the fuck is that? 😂
Someone who grows weed.
Just eliminate them all. They are terrorists. You don’t negotiate with terrorists. You exterminate them.
Funny how the FBI can’t seem to infiltrate them to take them down the way they do with anything else like this.
Someone's frontal lobe grew in. How unfortunate for antifa.
effBeeEye investigation.. NOPE. 🤡🌎
Why would they prosecute someone they hired in the first place?
Actually .. Divde and conquer. Conservative need to infiltrate antifa. Make them too scared to do anything because they dont know who the snitch is.
In the end they shall feast upon the tender and delicious flesh of their own.
-T.S. Twenty-
Close, but not 100% accurate given how soy and stringy leftist flesh must be
Makes great soup!
Campbell's™
M'm! M'm! Good!®
Doesnt even have to be true! They could’ve lied about it being an informant and it will have the same affect.
Is Raven-Guido a Dutch family name?
Mennonite
Always without bail.
Be that guy. Risking his life to inform on the neo marxists. No government or real police backing, if they get doxed would they even prosecute the killer?
Hilarious. The city will still burn and the leaders still won't care.
Liberal Utopia.
My guess? The informant is a cop who is an actual Antifag, but didn't like seeing his union building targeted.
Imagine being 19 and this stupid, instead of being out enjoying the youth she has.
There's nothing we can do with that city. Burn it all down.
Just think, the police could have done this back in 2015 but Ted Wheeler didn't want them to.
Mostly peaceful fire though
People need to start infiltrating antifa and blm to stir shit up. Get in close, get video footage, get names, then leak, leak, leak.
Is there really an informant and not just a pissed off "woman" that snitched?
FFFFFFF! I wanted to go there and spy on them.. Shit.
TFW assuming the prosecution will see something like this through against AntiFA. If they had their way the guy who shot a Trump supporter would have walked.
I’ve met many former Black Panthers in Oakland, and this is what happened to them
They were infiltrated and they knew it
According to the people I knew, this made the entire organization paranoid and unable to function
Their planning meetings turned into shouting matches and back and forth accusations regarding who was or was not a glowie
A majority of their organization is FBI fans anyways. Change my mind
Cool, finally using their cointel resources that have been embedded. Would have been nice if they did this five years ago.
So, an organization of violent, commie bastard dope-heads can't be trusted? I'm surprised!
released w/o bail? If I was him, i head for Mexico, since there is no border to get through.
Some people will die...wrongly or not, as they accuse each other of being the snitch. I’m not saying that’s a bad thing.
No doubt they're shitting bricks right now.
This is why any "organized" group is a bad idea. They're always infiltrated by FBI sooner or later. It doesn't matter if it is a left-wing or right-wing group.
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1382523519494414337
Antifiacels when will they learn, Pathetic disgusting losers SRS.
Wouldn’t it be nice if some of those late sentences were because of deals with prosecutors to inform?
Doesnt matter, they all get released from jail anyway.
Every commie DA, judge, politician, etc needs to be forcibly removed.
WTF?!? Released, and without bail? That informant has a target on the back as soon as his or her identify is made known...
let the purges begin! Get your Antifa Card Deck here! Prominent figures! check it out... the bike lock guy is the Jack of Diamonds.