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Tenet 37 points ago +38 / -1
  • The new virus exists. It was most likely developed in the lab in Wuhan with the help of the NIH.

  • This alleged treatment is not a Vaccine in any traditional sense

  • Any treatment, especially an experimental one, should be administered voluntarily with no coercion or publicity

  • If old people past the age of reproduction are indeed vulnerable, they should be the focus of the treatment and isolation strategies.

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WakeUpAmerica 11 points ago +11 / -0

People should be fully informed about the "vaccines", so they can give their informed consent.

How many people know that two of the "vaccines" are made by companies that have never before brought a vaccine to market? (Johnson & Johnson and Moderna)?

Moderna has never brought any drug to market.

Look under reason number two

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IG_Farben 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm fairly confident the "Vaccine" is a 2 stage Bio-Weapon. The second stage will be introduced through the food/water supply. It's aim is to stop biological reproduction and outright kill people when activated.

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Spezz 5 points ago +5 / -0

i’ve mostly seen fat 50+ year old and up die

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makethemwatch -1 points ago +3 / -4

This alleged treatment is not a Vaccine in any traditional sense

I really dont understand this argument. The vaccine vaccinates. It provides immunity to a disease. Trying to say it isnt a vaccine because it doesnt use dead virus is like trying to say a Tesla isnt a car because it doesnt use gas. Its nonsense

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StrangerThanFiction 3 points ago +3 / -0

This "vaccine" does not provide immunity, it simply lessens symptoms. Using your car analogy, it would be like trying to call a bicycle a car when it's not a car... because it doesn't actually drive.

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makethemwatch -1 points ago +1 / -2

Lol this is just wrong. It provides 90% of the people that take it immunity. Thats significantly more than the flu vaccine btw.

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Tenet 1 point ago +1 / -0

If my argument is correct, the Flu 'vaccine' is not a vaccine either.

In either case, the fact that you sign away all rights to receive something "experimental" and have no legal recourse in case of damages means that it should be treated differently.

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StrangerThanFiction 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's not wrong. You can still get and spread covid after getting vaccinated. From Pfizer's own data:

Vaccine effectiveness against transmission of SARS-CoV-2 Data are limited to assess the effect of the vaccine against transmission of SARS-CoV-2 from individuals who are infected despite vaccination. Demonstrated high efficacy against symptomatic COVID-19 may translate to overall prevention of transmission in populations with high enough vaccine uptake, though it is possible that if efficacy against asymptomatic infection were lower than efficacy against symptomatic infection, asymptomatic cases in combination with reduced mask-wearing and social distancing could result in significant continued transmission. Additional evaluations including data from clinical trials and from vaccine use post-authorization will be needed to assess the effect of the vaccine in preventing virus shedding and transmission, in particular in individuals with asymptomatic infection.

And from CNN: https://archive.is/2021.04.15-140601/https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/14/health/breakthrough-infections-covid-vaccines-cdc/index.html

How does that equal immunity? Edit: the flu vaccine is 40-60% effective at actually preventing you from getting and spreading the flu. The mRNA "vaccines" are 90%+ effective at preventing you from getting symptomatic covid.

https://archive.is/2021.04.07-113528/https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-vaccine/art-20484859

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tdtech9 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's immunotherapy but not a vaccine.

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makethemwatch 0 points ago +1 / -1

Thats completely pedantic

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Rusty_Bungus -13 points ago +6 / -19

This, exactly this. One of the reasons I got the vaccine is because I'm not having any more kids. I would feel differently if I was younger.

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NACH0 [S] 9 points ago +25 / -16

This guy wears two masks

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Spezz 2 points ago +2 / -0

this is america sort of, he has the choice to vax, i’m young and healthy so I won’t get it, dying of covid is not pleasant so for fat/ immune compromised it’s a choice they have to make

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Brucesky420 -1 points ago +9 / -10

So are you calling Trump a liar? If so you should be banned, because he had it you dipshit

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Tenet -3 points ago +2 / -5

This guy wants to use the Trump movement to perpetuate his fight against all vaccines, he is even willing to call this treatment a 'vaccine' just like the MSM despite it having nothing to do with the methodology of inoculation with a weakened diseases.

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Rusty_Bungus -3 points ago +4 / -7

False.

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Sumarongi 4 points ago +8 / -4

Three masks FTW!

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IG_Farben 4 points ago +4 / -0

Did you know the efficacy of the vaccine only lasts 6 months if it gives you any protection at all. (A New Jersey woman contracted Covid 3 weeks after getting vaccinated)