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CyanScales [S] 167 points ago +168 / -1

Prosecution: Floyd was choked
Defense: Maybe it was CO2 limiting his Blood Oxy Count
Prosecution: It wasn't, here is evidence we hid that his BOC was extremely high
Defense: SO HE WAS NOT CHOKED?

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NotAPuma 96 points ago +97 / -1

Small Business Owners watching Chauvin's Defense Lawyer be Competent and Present a Strong Case:

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Grunt422 66 points ago +66 / -0

On the other hand the state grabbing at straws, and looking like fools. Even worse that they had already given 27 million to Floyd's "family" thinking they could appease the blacks. This trial by the state is a Circus, and now we will see how honest, or dishonest that jury is ?

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MakinBacon 30 points ago +30 / -0

Just out of curiosity, I wonder if they paid taxes on that?

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NoStumpyTrumpy 23 points ago +23 / -0

Nope, tort payments aren't taxable.

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PantsJihad 18 points ago +18 / -0

I did not know this.

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rootGoose 6 points ago +6 / -0

Insurance payouts are the same: compensation for a loss = no taxes

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NWOSTING 3 points ago +3 / -0

Good to know for tax day.

Totaled a car for hail damage.

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Grunt422 12 points ago +12 / -0

Why do I doubt they did. Besides that money will soon be gone !

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FretNoise14 6 points ago +6 / -0

It’s too bad there’s no sales tax on fentanyl so at least some of the money could be recuperated.

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Corky_Knightrider 3 points ago +3 / -0

Giving them 27 million will kill them. Theyll all be overdosed or in jail before then end of the year.

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Grunt422 2 points ago +2 / -0

With all that money and buying tons of bling, and sitting on the bed taking selfies with wads of cash they are ripe for a home invasion from the hood. We'll find them all dead one of these days.

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Corky_Knightrider 1 point ago +1 / -0

Either They'll all end up dead, or theyll use the money to be better. Either way im fine with it.

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ThisIsHowItStarts 1 point ago +1 / -0

They aren’t living in the hood. OF COURSE they move to a predominantly White supreme neighborhood! They. Probably don’t even live in Minneapolis anymore. They know better!

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Flightgirl1 2 points ago +2 / -0

They probably have to give a cut to their activist attorneys. No surprise Benjamin Crump is now Duane Wrights mother's attorney.

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FelixtheMan 2 points ago +2 / -0

Lawyer tax

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Totally_Not_FBI 7 points ago +7 / -0

We will see how interested in self preservation the jury is.

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Grunt422 3 points ago +3 / -0

When juries are intimidated, and in fear we no longer have a justice system. This is what black mobs are doing by demanding revenge. Even that so called Mayor fired the city manager for talking about due process for the officer, and then the police chief quit because he didn't want any part of vigilantly street "justice". What we are seeing is nothing more then feral tribal dictates on how jungle law works !

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Hammerhawk 16 points ago +16 / -0

Hope its enough pede!

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Wankerton 22 points ago +22 / -0

I bet if you put up a sign saying "hate has no place here" it will magically prevent rioters from burning your small buisness down.

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TomWolfsTinyDick 28 points ago +28 / -0

My sign would read; "free tickets to meet George Floyd, inquire within."

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Dialectic 10 points ago +10 / -0

Kek

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zooty 9 points ago +9 / -0

I think you'd have more luck sticking up an Apple or Starbucks logo.

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thelawmat 1 point ago +1 / -0

shocked pikachu face

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Bobosquatindotin 36 points ago +36 / -0

I watched all that played out and I didn’t even pick up on that!

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UpTrump 34 points ago +36 / -2

So what makes us think the jury will pick up on it? Defense needs to hammer it home

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TrumpLandslideWon202 35 points ago +35 / -0

Watch the video. They broke it down into something a 5 year old would perfectly understand and DID hammer the point home.

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UpTrump 18 points ago +18 / -0

Awesome now let's hope the antifa jury doesn't, well, antifa

This will be a mistrial

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TrumpLandslideWon202 16 points ago +16 / -0

I'm guessing it'll be hung jury and they can't reach unanimous consensus. Probably any jury in that cucked city will be the same, they don't want antifa to murder them and their families and also don't want to send an innocent family man to jail.

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SCP0073 2 points ago +2 / -0

That’s what I thought about Zimmerman and Trayvon trial, we pleasantly surprised.

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SCP0073 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think a hung jury is inevitable. But then again, I thought the same about Zimmerman.

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lixa 6 points ago +6 / -0

I’ve been following this trial from day 1 and this is the first thing I have missed. Nelson only asked a couple of questions and I didn’t hear anything about that.

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TrumpLandslideWon202 4 points ago +4 / -0

A few people posted the video link in this comment section.

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lixa 2 points ago +2 / -0

I've watched the video... I'm not seeing Nelson ask the question mentioned... was there more than one cross-examination? Anyone have a timestamp?

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TrumpLandslideWon202 3 points ago +3 / -0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5mi1b8ekqQ @ 1:10:55

Watch for about 5-7 minutes at that time stamp and you'll see it all

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TrumpLandslideWon202 3 points ago +3 / -0

That time stamp is 1 hour, 10 minutes in

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SaltiTaralli 3 points ago +3 / -0

I've only been able to watch parts of the trial but I was talking with a friend about it and I realized that I wasn't even sure WHAT the prosecution is claiming the actual cause of death was. Asphyxiation due to the knee and body weight on him? Does the prosecution contend that he died ONLY due to lack of oxygen?

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TrumpLandslideWon202 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, I think that's their entire case. The knee on the back (was not on neck) caused asphyxiation and he suffocated. They sticking with the "I can't breath" bullshit. And the defense just proved that his haemoglobin was 98% oxygen saturated which means an absolute max of 2% CO2 which is NORMAL. All living humans have CO2 at anywhere from 0% to 3%. Soooooo... he had perfect oxygen supply.

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SaltiTaralli 3 points ago +3 / -0

I wonder if the judge will rethink his decision not to call a mistrial when the "expert" referred to the blood test that wasn't disclosed until today. I think he went past the line that the judge drew in the sand. Also, In retrospect it has to seem like a clear case of the prosecution hiding evidence and revealing it only when they thought it might help them.

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SCP0073 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think that was a mistake on their part. I would have asked him “what’s a typical blood oxygen level for someone who dies of asphyxiation?” You can infere the answer from the testimony but many will over look it, I fear.

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Trumper007 9 points ago +9 / -0

Because of closing arguement.

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War_Hamster 9 points ago +9 / -0

Tell them what you're going to tell them.

Tell them.

Then tell them what you told them.

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bootsy_two_scoops 17 points ago +17 / -0

I’m going to tell you that George Floyd are too many drugs. George Floyd ate too many drugs. I just told you that George Floyd ate too many drugs.

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War_Hamster 10 points ago +10 / -0

A+

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NWOSTING 1 point ago +1 / -0

The jury isn't also doing 6 other things like most of us when we watch that kinda shit.

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Backslash2099 0 points ago +0 / -0

The defense hasn't even started making their case yet, all the slams we've seen from the defense is cross examination of the prosecution's case... I'm sure the defense will bring it up when it's their time.

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UpTrump 1 point ago +1 / -0

Defense has already rested their case. Closing arguments on monday

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Backslash2099 1 point ago +1 / -0

It occurred to me after I made the post that the last video I watched on the subject was a couple days old. By then I had already put my phone down and couldn't be bothered to find out what I had missed and change my post..

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Grunt422 15 points ago +15 / -0

Seems like the state lost track of it's case, and it's cause of death scenario. Today they were panicked over an issue they should have looked into a couple months ago. A small issue, but added to 1. An enlarged heart. 2.Clogged Arteries. 3. High blood pressure. 4. Meth present. 5. Fentenyal present, 6. Physically resisting, and now even a small amount Carbon Monoxide adding to that mix caused them to forget that 98% oxygen meant he could breath, and wasn't strangled. Dah ! He died of a heart attack based on his health, and behavior !

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LRRP 12 points ago +12 / -0

The idea that oxygen oxygenates the blood is racist.

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Grunt422 4 points ago +5 / -1

Then maybe blacks should stop using that white man stuff.

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SaltiTaralli 1 point ago +1 / -0

Don't forget the paraganglioma tumor and Covid-19. He was a smorgasbord of disease.

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gushgosh 15 points ago +16 / -1

I want the video, please!

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gushgosh 8 points ago +8 / -0

Thank you!

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lixa 5 points ago +5 / -0

I’m still not hearing anything about that from Nelson. He asks a couple of questions about lung and hypopharnyx. Am I missing something??

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ILickStones-InFours 11 points ago +11 / -0

This doesn't make sense. The fentanyl in his system alone would easily bring down his levels to the low 90s. Add in the knee and heart problems and the saturation is STILL 98%? Thats hard to believe.

Really does only mean one thing. His heart failed. That's it.

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0rthogonal 9 points ago +9 / -0

Because it was arythmia. He had a heart attack essentially.

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ILickStones-InFours 7 points ago +7 / -0

Sure, that's fine, makes sense. But how did 3x the amount of fentanyl not unsaturate his blood? IM GOING TO MISS "FENTANYL FLOYD". Heart Failure Floyd is a shitty shitty nickname.

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LRRP 6 points ago +6 / -0

Opioid tolerance?

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Dathurtz 5 points ago +5 / -0

I am not a doctor, but one probably knows. It makes sense to me that resuscitation efforts like CPR/blowing oxygen into his lungs might increase the oxygenation of his blood if it was done for a while.

There does seem to be some weird unresolved technical stuff here. Was there CO? How much? Does the 98% O2 saturation blow the hypoxia-as-CoD hypothesis out of the water? How does that work? Seems really hard to die from oxygen related issues at 98% saturation.

But what do I know? Not enough to interpret this nonsense.

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SaltiTaralli 1 point ago +1 / -0

Are you saying that you have reasonable doubt!?

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thomquaid 2 points ago +2 / -0

This. The prosecution needs time to fix their case after a massive rebuttal failure (98% blood O2). They have no time. Their entire close has to argue why you can asphyxiate with 98% O2 blood beyond a reasonable doubt. I don't think it's possible. Nelson can say over and over 60% O2 asphyxia one frame, 98% O2 next frame--the witness tobin (the best witness for the state case) contradicts himself to suit his own argument and his theory on cause of death (positional asphyxia) barely can survive scrutiny. How can a cop in the moment tell what is even happening to GF? GF most likely died from his heart stopping which looks like it happened before GF even goes to the ground. The cops are not guilty of anything because GF was going to die that day despite anything the cops did besides respond to a forgery call.

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SaltiTaralli 1 point ago +1 / -0

Once he poped that extra fentanyl or whatever in his mouth, I too think he was done.

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ITS_A_MINDSET 1 point ago +1 / -0

He died from his heart attack before the oral dose even really set in. That’s why it wasn’t metabolized into norfentanyl too

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Ms_deplorable 5 points ago +5 / -0

Because it was 98% at the hospital. It’s pretty standard in a well run cardiac arrest that his levels would be 98%. The CPR and resuscitative measures would ensure that. What we don’t know is his O2 saturation at the time of his cardiac arrest. And really, that wouldn’t be telling you WHY he had a cardiac arrest, be it from drugs or the physical restraint. Any opiate is going to slow respirations and your heart beat, that drops your O2 levels.

All this says was that when he was still dead at the hospital, during CPR and resuscitation, his blood was able to and indeed was carrying oxygen at appropriate levels to support life function. Kinda nothing much here honestly.

Source: I’m a paramedic.

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JhnBrwnRtrns 4 points ago +4 / -0

"What we don’t know is his O2 saturation at the time of his cardiac arrest."

Which means we don't know if he died from lack of O2 and what information we do have doesn't provide sufficient evidence that he did die from lack of O2. Therefore, reasonable doubt. I'd say there is much there.

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Lepreco-Inc 5 points ago +5 / -0

That’s up there with getting the prosecution to have the defendant try on a tight glove.

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loooooof 65 points ago +66 / -1

Get the plywood ready.

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Gooseontheloose 18 points ago +21 / -3

Yes, board up every store with an easily flammable product. Makes it easier for the serial arsonists.

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Grunt422 13 points ago +13 / -0

Better yet seeing as how the police can't, and won't do their job protecting the public every business owner needs to get some rifles, and shotguns to protect their property. Nobody else will ! Time to start shooting some thugs, and criminals (regardless of color, or sex, or age). They are all animals 1

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Benwa1985 15 points ago +15 / -0

Get the rooftop Koreans ready.

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TeamOrangeFB 8 points ago +8 / -0

How about some Rooktop Kenosha Kyles?

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Tintop 8 points ago +8 / -0

Plywood has gone from $35/sheet a year ago to $95/sheet today.

Surely a coincidence.

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The_Gay_Deceiver 6 points ago +6 / -0

Was like $20 where I live.

Nice not living in a shithole.

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ObamasLooseButthole 58 points ago +59 / -1

lol this may be the easiest case that any defense lawyers have ever had. They seem to just constantly be dunking on the prosecution.

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Formerlurker92 42 points ago +43 / -1

It was bullshit from the beginning so they had to use all kinda of media propaganda to make it look like it had a chance in hell (without cheating, theres a chance they just move the jury to "vote for justice")

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UpTrump 34 points ago +34 / -0

The jurors is scared for their lives if they don't convict. Antifa will be after them

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TrumpLandslideWon202 19 points ago +19 / -0

They should just be gun owners then.

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47urOFH3d 8 points ago +8 / -0

All the ones who were scared have already been recused, right?

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I_spot_actual_nazis 3 points ago +3 / -0

Unknown. But we do know one juror is had actively been working on a book deal on the trial while the trial was on going.

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Abkmd011 6 points ago +6 / -0

Well you know the saying: If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts; if you have the law on your side, pound the law; if you have neither the facts nor the law, pound the table.”

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DoIMAGAYouHornyBaby 19 points ago +20 / -1

True, which is why its hilarious to hear radio commercials saying “the prosecution have been making an airtight case.” Make you wonder if they just use words because they are colorful (instead of being accurate)

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Grunt422 13 points ago +13 / -0

I recorded the trial so I could watch it, and even do playbacks. I had to fast forward through MSNBC's self serving never ending comments as what I saw was just them pointing out the State's "high points", and failing to cover any time they got served their lunch. All one sided "coverage" not even close to honest. Propaganda and dishonesty !

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War_Hamster 12 points ago +12 / -0

I think they use words to specially shape the narrative that there's no "justice" for black people. In fact, I KNOW that's what they do.

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Nothingisoveryet 3 points ago +3 / -0

Don't take the credit away from Nelson, he's done an absolutely superb job.

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ObamasLooseButthole 3 points ago +3 / -0

Oh I wasn't taking credit from him at all.

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4cdarth 42 points ago +44 / -2

Prosecution: OBJECTION!!!

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Grunt422 34 points ago +35 / -1

If Floyd had the decency to drop over dead 20 minutes earlier in the store while he was doing the Old Town Road shuffle who would the blacks blame then !

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Freshcope 29 points ago +30 / -1

White people. Obviously.

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NeverInterruptEnemy 1 point ago +1 / -0

He only did the drugs because of statues in the South.

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Hammerhawk 9 points ago +9 / -0

If the baby daddy of the woman he robbed years ago had the decency to stick around( I'm making the assumption he bailed here..I could be wrong) he could have ended him then

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War_Hamster 5 points ago +5 / -0

They'd have just picked another cop on black violent incident to hype and drive everyone into hysteria.

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Jackpotsevens 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yep, if not Minneapolis then it would have been some other city. "Summer of love" was part of the plan.

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War_Hamster 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yup. Covid, riots, fake impeachment......all of it was part of a rather insidious plot.

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IronMaiden 1 point ago +1 / -0

Wouldn't have even made the local news.

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Grunt422 1 point ago +1 / -0

Likely they would have just carried him out the back door, and left him in the alley as an OD.

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br1337 1 point ago +1 / -0

Aha let me see the instances of white supremacy in your statement that could still be used by the prosecution: -20 minutes - using time, time is white supremacist (see smithsonian) -in the store - the concept of stores to buy stuff at and money is white supremacist -asking a question - white supremacist /s

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Grunt422 1 point ago +1 / -0

But, but, but, Floyd didn't use that white supremacist money ! He had his own homemade stuff. And time is universal. I mean that even in Jamaica they say "Day light come, and I want go home".

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br1337 1 point ago +1 / -0

hahaha ! that good ole white supremacist money!

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randomusers239874 1 point ago +1 / -0

Humans have been so successful because we started going through "memetic evolution", which is where complex behaviors affect brain evolution, and brain evolution affects complex behaviors in a feedback loop. African languages do not have a future tense, indicating they did not evolve in an environment that required future thinking, and thus their brains would not be optimized for such thoughts. That's why they have such poor time management skills compared to white people, who needed to be very future thinking given that they evolved in the north, during an ice age, so food wasn't available for most of the year (i.e. the Smithsonian document is correct). That's also why they have such poor impulse control; they don't think about future consequences before acting.

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CyanScales [S] 18 points ago +20 / -2

Judge: You cant object to yourself. . .
*Facepalms

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Snoman 13 points ago +14 / -1

Nelson: winnnnnnnning..

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crumbhole 28 points ago +29 / -1

was floyd's ox/sat not previously disclosed in discovery? how could it not have been?

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Veylis 27 points ago +27 / -0

Apparently the prosecution has been sending discovery over even during the case, over 5000 items during the trial, trying to overwhelm the defense.

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TheSwampFox 16 points ago +17 / -1

Wasn't it on the autopsy?

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Perhelion 1 point ago +1 / -0

The medical examiner’s office did not disclose it right away. The Judge didn’t have to nuts to say that these new disclosures were untimely.

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BS2020 22 points ago +24 / -2

From what I understand Floyd didn't even die on the scene with Chauvin's knee on his SHOULDER. He died later at the hospital. Isn't that correct? Anyone?

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crumbhole 25 points ago +25 / -0

he was pronounced dead at hospital. but his heart had already stopped on the street. thus the many minutes of CPR.

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BS2020 18 points ago +18 / -0

thanks for the clarification

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Artisane 14 points ago +14 / -0

EMTs can not declare death. Its typically called at the hospital or by the coroner onsite if its obvious someone died in place.

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Hammerhawk 9 points ago +9 / -0

I've only seen this in our threads. I would like some sauce...even if its copy pasta

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S11houette 2 points ago +2 / -0

Just responded to the parent comment with the evidence.

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Hammerhawk 1 point ago +1 / -0

did this not come up In the trial??

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rubmewithbeer 6 points ago +7 / -1

yeah im pretty sure that's right

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S11houette 2 points ago +2 / -0

Close. He died en route.

Here is some video: https://youtu.be/YPEJwoXsKy4

Notice that they are not performing cpr while loading him. First thing they would do is check his vitals. If they didn't find anything they would immediately start performing cpr. They didn't which means he had a pulse while they were loading.

Beware the deceptive edit. The back doors are closed when they begin performing cpr.

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pw-gone 3 points ago +3 / -0

The EMT testified extensively the timeline of events. They never find or create a heartbeat from the time they get on the scene. Because of the unruly crowd, they had to move the ambulance around the block before real attempts could be made to resuscitate Floyd.

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thomquaid 1 point ago +1 / -0

That is not completely true if I recall correctly. One of the EMTs said he got GF back to a shockable heart rhythm. Honestly this is the best evidence that coronary artery problems caused loss of heart rhythm because if the heart rhythm problem was caused by brain damage/hypoxia/anoxia I would not expect the rhythm to improve after CPR is started.

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pw-gone 1 point ago +1 / -0

To be fair, I watched testimony of one EMT for about 30 mins or so, so there might be different testimony I did not see.

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MoonLevelStop 1 point ago +1 / -0

From what I understand, if there is a hostile crows the procedure is load 'im up and move a few blocks away before actually doing any checks or treatments.

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Hammerhawk 1 point ago +1 / -0

noice!!

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apathy_meh 1 point ago +1 / -0

His time of death was called an hour later. This is 30min after his blood was taken at the hospital. The blood is categorized as antemortem when they took it.

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NC_patriot 18 points ago +18 / -0

Floyd's ghost is in here downvoting everything.

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UltraFrogMan 11 points ago +11 / -0

95 or higher is optimal. Sub 90 is a problem

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GhostofPatrickHenry 2 points ago +3 / -1

It’s not the absolute number that matters, it’s the delta. There are lots of people out there with a baseline sat in the mid 80s.

FentFloyds sat wasn’t 98% when the EMT checked his pulse, that abg number is from CPR and most likely intubation.

He got hypoxia and hypercarbic from the Fent which lead to fatal ventricular fibrillation.

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bootsy_two_scoops 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes, saturation only tells you the % of the maximum amount of oxygen your blood can hold. If you have low hemoglobin or anemia you can suffocate with 100% saturation.

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Ntltrllysh 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sorry if this is a stupid question but would getting choked-out lower oxygen saturation? Also, are they trying to argue that he died because his oxygen was cut off or because his blood flow to his brain was cut off?

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GhostofPatrickHenry 1 point ago +1 / -0

Usually “choking” someone out involves carotid artery pressure that lowers blood flow to the brain. After approx 15 seconds (or less) it causes a regional hypoxia that results in unconsciousness. Continuing to completely limit respiration for an extended period would cause global hypoxia but that would take around 60 seconds for O2 Sat to get to a level where it would start affecting the heart and body. Maybe sooner in a person like fentfloyd due to his severe coronary atherosclerosis.

True “choking” would cause a global hypoxic brain injury. I believe gf died of a fatal arrhythmia precipitated by an OD. Chauvin weighed 147lbs. Floyd was 245lbs

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Onemoretime11 9 points ago +11 / -2

Meh,, The communist will convict him anyway,, it was a lynching since day one

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Judiwont 7 points ago +8 / -1

I had to work this morning and missed it. If a link comes out with the video let me know!!

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grandfather_nurgle 7 points ago +9 / -2

Oh fuck Chauvin is def going to jail. Posobiec happening is the kiss of death.

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FuckGovernment 6 points ago +6 / -0

Meanwhile, the racist black Capitol Police Officer Lieutenant Michael Leroy Byrd who was cited for previously mishandling his firearm did not commit murder despite shooting an unarmed woman because DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP. /s

https://postimg.cc/QBZJCgty

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Jackpotsevens 1 point ago +1 / -0

Some would say white supremacy but I'm smart enough to know it because of climate change

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BrakeRemovalMechanic 5 points ago +5 / -0

This proves that Floyd wasn't wearing a mask.

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BarronTrump2032 2 points ago +2 / -0

Laughed too hard at this

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Dontdoxxxmeplease 4 points ago +5 / -1

Faurk, If they gotta riot in Minnesota and Maricopa daddy soros better dog down deep into his pocket to reach for some shekels to get some more naughty boys to peacefully protest SRS.

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TAIWANNUMBERONE 4 points ago +5 / -1

Hey, just in time for all the government office workers who get off in an hour to get home, suit up and join the riots.

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BloodDe 3 points ago +3 / -0

I’m going to predict hung jury.

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thomquaid 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hanged jury.

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Dialectic 3 points ago +3 / -0

Media are terrorists that belong in gitmo and they deserve daily torture

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NutterButter 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeap, stay out of Minneapolis.

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buckyswarpath 2 points ago +2 / -0

Check out legalinsurrection dot com for really good summaries

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thallos 2 points ago +2 / -0

Check this shit out: https://sleepwithapnea.com/how-low-can-your-oxygen-level-go-before-you-die/

A normal blood oxygen level should be anywhere between 94 percent and 98 percent.

Oxygen level drops to 80 percent or less due to not breathing for 30 seconds or more when sleeping. Anyone that has an oxygen level under 90 percent requires intervention as it is dangerously low for the body. The brain only has the ability to survive for up to 4 minutes if oxygen gets completely cut off.

With this information can we not conclude that Floyd was not hypoxic? It implies his heart stopped beating before he suffocated.

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CommunismIsForLosers 2 points ago +2 / -0

Get ready for some mostly peaceful protesting!

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NewPoppi 1 point ago +1 / -0

Clean your guns

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GeoG85 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yea but what's it mean?

This common sense victory is useless AFAIK. Lost the SCOTUS's head, the fraud election, but one of the crackheads that died last year, at least we proved he overdosed and not police brutality?

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GoodvsEvil2 1 point ago +1 / -0

NOT GUILTY

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WindyCityBluez 1 point ago +1 / -0

Don't count on Jury. Pretty sure everyone on that jury wants to be there.

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PieceOfParchment7 -1 points ago +4 / -5

The War On Drugs needs to end.

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TAIWANNUMBERONE 3 points ago +3 / -0

Or rather it needs to shift targets to the actual culprits.