They have lost this war. Just shooting off their last few cannon shots. Fed can't handle anymore deflation without injecting more fiat paper. Too many are saying fuck it and checking out of the economy. The passport failed, the masks are dying and they can't explain cases dropping in the rebel states.
CDC: That's exactly why you can never live like in Pre Faggot Revolution times! All that POTENTIAL infection is much too risky to play fast and lose with our ritualistic abuse sacraments.
3 cases? Better revise that "vaccine booster every six moths to a year" to "vaccine booster every morning." It is the only way to keep the children safe.
Easy explanation... people are taking their parents out of homes, they are getting outside, taking their masks off, and they are getting sunlight. Should have been doing this all along.
Not surprised at all, this was the dirty little secret that was buried in all the real data the media, government, and pretends doctors were choosing to totally ignore, a vaccine only invokes the bodies natural immunity response, nothing and I repeat nothing suggested the bodies natural immunity for this virus would be any longer than for similar virus like the flu and another corona virus, aka 6-12 months of immunity once invoked. In fact I read some studies that suggest immunity might actually drop after a short 3-4 months in obese people and that is nearly half the US population!
This needs to be more like the flu vaccine where it’s mostly for vulnerable people and people in contact with vulnerable people, especially when for the vast majority this is less severe than the flu.
The idea of forcing 70% of the population to get vaccinated every year is ridiculous. We’re going to need to live with this similar to the flu.
If you ask the mask crowd we stopped the flu dead in its tracks because we all wore mask and socially distanced, then when you ask them why COVID spiked and infected millions in the same time period they will say because we didn't wear mask and socially distance, it's quite comical.
One hypothesis for this scenario would be that non-N95 masks don't prevent most cases of the flu or covid, and that many of the reported cases of covid are actually flu.
I know. I saw the post many many times here also as well as r/conspiracy and r/coronavirus with the highest up updates. But I think it's a propaganda and upvotes are also artificially manipulated.
Worth if it sterilizes them, extra worth if they drop dead shortly after. One of the reasons why I find it hard to be mad at planned parenthood. I'd prefer to not have to pay anything of course, but if I have the choice of funding the existence of Breadquanda's 10 kids or just paying for 10 abortions, I think it's a pretty easy decision
Some of us have someone like an immunocompromised relative and are trying to do everything possible to shield them as much as possible from everything. If it weren’t for that I wouldn’t take it since I myself am not vulnerable to covid. Also going to get a flu vaccine that I normally wouldn’t bother with.
If it were just me I wouldn’t do it but I’m trying to shield someone else who’s vulnerable to all kinds of crap which is actually a pain in the ass even without covid.
What I’ve read is that they don’t actually know if it would measurably retard the spread on a large scale because apparently they can’t even figure that out for the flu vaccine.
On a small scale like me possibly spreading it to one other specific immunocompromised person, it should definitely reduce the chances of me spreading it to them, but it’s certainly not 100%. Even after the second shot it’s like 94% effective at preventing “severe” cases (supposedly) and they don’t know exactly what that means for chance of spreading. So I still have to take precautions for covid and flu and other to avoid spreading stuff to them, but I’m just trying to do what I can to reduce risk.
It’s a difficult judgement call because we don’t really have solid info. I’m just trying to do what I can because I know for sure my brothers immune system is fucked right now and stuff that doesn’t usually kill you can kill him.
I’m not the one who’s immunocompromised, it’s my brother and he isn’t getting the vaccine. The doctors can’t decide if it’s even safe for him to get it and they know it may not do any good at all anyway. After all, vaccines of any sort rely on your immune system and if your immune system is fucked then it isn’t working so it’s like trying to program a broken machine.
I’m just getting it on the off chance that it reduces the chance of me spreading the virus to him if I were to get infected, which we also have no data on. Theoretically there ought to be some reduced risk to him but it can’t be quantified, and neither can the long term risk to me taking it due to no long term studies of this.
It’s a judgement call and I wouldn’t force anyone else to make the same call.
They keep saying that the stupids that got the injection will die when the next strain attacks, so I'm hoping their body flushes the code out before that!
Anyone remember the episode of Star Trek TNG where the Enterprise found a species of people on a planet that were essentially drug addicts because a neighboring planet had the only "cure" for what the people thought was an illness? They had to get their dose regularly or they would die. Sounding a bit familiar.
Flu shot is weakened germs your body practices on to build immunity. Pfizer shot is mRNA therapy that edits your DNA and turns you into one of those GMOs (genetically modified organisms) people are afraid to eat.
No it doesn’t edit your dna. mRNA can’t do that. Yea it’s weird and new, yea it uses mRNA encased in a fat glob, yea there are a lack of long term studies, but no it can’t edit your DNA.
Well it hijacks and replaces part of our own DNA's control of our cells, but there is the possibility that it interferes with our base DNA accidentally...
It is very unscientific to claim that changing one part of DNA is independent of any other parts of body. For anything in the world, if one thing changes, everything else changes in response to it. The immune system is altered if something changes. This is basically the purpose of examining long-term effect. The science knows that the mRNA will create a spike protein, but there is no fucking evidence that it does something good and nothing bad!
I’m not dismissing the possibility of interfering with DNA because all kinds of stuff does that including ionizing radiation. Viruses also screw with your DNA which is how HPV could cause cancer. There’s even weird shit like this https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2167160/ where a bunch of our DNA is old virus DNA essentially that our ancestor species ended up with somehow.
But let’s face it, the mRNA vaccine doesn’t operate by gene editing and it doesn’t make you into a GMO. Worst case would be more like HPV causing cancer or something. I mean most DNA fuckery is cancer, not turning you into a green super mutant.
So no I’m not dismissing the concern here and I’m concerned about the lack of long term studies because we know weird stuff can happen that scientists didn’t expect. But it’s not gene editing.
The risks are also more like a small but significant number of people have a problem like that J&J blood clot issue. So the sort of thing I’d be afraid of is that a small but significant number of people get cancer or something.
The problem with medicine is that lots of stuff is a risk vs risk judgment by the doctor, and this gets difficult with a lack of data especially when it’s small risk vs small risk.
It's just hilarious the gluten-phobes, vegans, and GMO avoiders will line up for experimental mRNA injections. Normally I'm nothing but derisive towards such worries, but we know far too many doctors are making risk vs risk judgements based on politics and not medicine now. Then we have these half-assed "vaccines" (pending dictionary definition change) being discontinued or treatments revised on the daily this week... mRNA may just be a DNA middleman but if Fauci wanted actual cancerous green super mutants instead of the Bat-virus (TM) he'd pay a Chinese lab to work on mRNA instead. GMO isn't technically defined as having permanently edited DNA, so whether the cells are genetically altered via DNA or just RNA I'm just gonna call the injection virtue signalling karens GMOs.
Assholes like fauci are the whole problem here. They’re making it harder to be rational about all this. None of this should be some sort of political statement.
Funny how non-medical/science people try to understand college level coursework. One of my friends once thought fat cells literally turned into muscle cells lol. At least the college level stuff is scary and off putting as something this new and not well known should be. Like a built in safety device, but it definitely leads to faulty info
I think people should be trying to honestly understand stuff and science shouldn’t be some priestly elite thing, but people saying stuff like everyone is going to turn into a zombie is not an honest attempt to understand anything.
From what I can gather the main issues/unknowns are 1) the LNPs (lipid nanoparticles) are a new thing we don’t have long term studies for, 2) the LNPs are “secret science” (trade secrets) that third-parties can’t examine, 3) some LNPs can get taken up by non-immune cells which theoretically shouldn’t be a problem but again, lack of long term studies.
Main thing I’m worried about is some unanticipated but relatively rare stochastic health problem similar to the J&J blood clot issue, but longer term and affecting more people. I’m less concerned though because the mRNA LNP stuff has been studied in animals for many years, but it’s still ethically wrong to force anyone to take this to keep their job etc.
Nobody cares if you don't get a flu shot. They are talking about forcing people to take the COVID shot. Also, the COVID shot is experimental and is questionably dangerous. The long term side effects of COVID shots are unknown.
I don’t think anyone cares if you want to opt to get it, they’re just objecting to them being forced to get it. The experimental nature of it (mRNA LNP vaccine never deployed on a large scale before) especially makes it ethically wrong to force on people.
They don’t know how long the body keeps making spike protein antibodies. I thought once a body can make antibodies it lasts a lifetime. These have an expiration date or is for another spike protein-like thingy?
The fact itself is a scary shit. We don't know at all if the spike protein does something good or bad. Not to mention, it is scary to think how your altered DNA affect other parts of DNA or do something else.
Nope. Seems to work for some viruses but the more typical thing is for your immune system to “forget” stuff due to lack of exposure to the pathogen.
Immunology is super complicated and I don’t know why immunity lasts a lifetime for a few things but not others. Some stuff like chicken pox is complicated because you’re essentially immune to that for life but the dormant virus is what later causes shingles.
Introduce vaccine that silently destroys immune system then require annual boosters. If you miss a booster you die slowly and it is used as “proof” of a deadly plague.
Don't need sauce. It's about making vaccines partisan. Come on man get with it. The lefty shill here need us to not take the vaccine so they can weaponize jt against us.
and for new strains. So you need 4 or 6 shots a year. It means your death rate goes up by 400% to 600% times with a shot. After 5 years, 1 in 100 people would die because of the shots.
They have lost this war. Just shooting off their last few cannon shots. Fed can't handle anymore deflation without injecting more fiat paper. Too many are saying fuck it and checking out of the economy. The passport failed, the masks are dying and they can't explain cases dropping in the rebel states.
He have 3 covid patients in our 1000 bed hospital. 3!
OMG even one case is too many!
There are no cases, yay we defeated it.
CDC: That's exactly why you can never live like in Pre Faggot Revolution times! All that POTENTIAL infection is much too risky to play fast and lose with our ritualistic abuse sacraments.
You just want to kill grandma. Admit it, you trannyphobe!
IF IT JUST SAVES ONE LIFE, WE HAVE TO TRY.
3 cases? Better revise that "vaccine booster every six moths to a year" to "vaccine booster every morning." It is the only way to keep the children safe.
Redditors and bug people on suicide watch
Boy that would hep our country if they would all just rope themselves
Redditors just want to collect their UBI and watch furry porn.
"bug people"?
https://www.meta-nomad.net/bugmen-what-are-they/
Easy explanation... people are taking their parents out of homes, they are getting outside, taking their masks off, and they are getting sunlight. Should have been doing this all along.
FACTS
Until they release a new bio weapon this fall. But this time it will be more lethal
Yes. Kungflumanchu19 was a beta test.
Not surprised at all, this was the dirty little secret that was buried in all the real data the media, government, and pretends doctors were choosing to totally ignore, a vaccine only invokes the bodies natural immunity response, nothing and I repeat nothing suggested the bodies natural immunity for this virus would be any longer than for similar virus like the flu and another corona virus, aka 6-12 months of immunity once invoked. In fact I read some studies that suggest immunity might actually drop after a short 3-4 months in obese people and that is nearly half the US population!
Yea this is not new.
This needs to be more like the flu vaccine where it’s mostly for vulnerable people and people in contact with vulnerable people, especially when for the vast majority this is less severe than the flu.
The idea of forcing 70% of the population to get vaccinated every year is ridiculous. We’re going to need to live with this similar to the flu.
This is the flu, ask yourself why we only had 1,800 cases last year when we usually have millions
If you ask the mask crowd we stopped the flu dead in its tracks because we all wore mask and socially distanced, then when you ask them why COVID spiked and infected millions in the same time period they will say because we didn't wear mask and socially distance, it's quite comical.
I did this.
The guy actually replied that “it means covid would have spread that much more if we didn’t wear masks”.
So I fired the next logic cannon: “okay so why do states with no mask mandates have exact same outcomes as others with mandates”
At this point they turned to good old ad-hominem attacks.
That's usually what ends up happening.
One hypothesis for this scenario would be that non-N95 masks don't prevent most cases of the flu or covid, and that many of the reported cases of covid are actually flu.
I know. I saw the post many many times here also as well as r/conspiracy and r/coronavirus with the highest up updates. But I think it's a propaganda and upvotes are also artificially manipulated.
67% of Americans are obese. Just did a paper on it.
Hey, who you calling fat?! /s
They were saying this before. It's not a new thing. But people still take it because they are dumb.
OK fine. Those that want to get vaccinated every 6 months are welcome to do so. The rest of us should be allowed to take our chances. End of story.
This is the real issue.
While your tax dollars fund Pfizer to provide free jabs to those people in the community who want it every 6 months.
Worth if it sterilizes them, extra worth if they drop dead shortly after. One of the reasons why I find it hard to be mad at planned parenthood. I'd prefer to not have to pay anything of course, but if I have the choice of funding the existence of Breadquanda's 10 kids or just paying for 10 abortions, I think it's a pretty easy decision
$ grab at least
at worst, well I'd rather not think about that
Spars
God only knows how much they are charging the govt for each shot. tanstaafl
charging the govt = charging us. sad.
I am still sick from 1st shot. I told my doctor I won’t take 2nd one as it will finish me off.
Why even take the first one? WTF
THIS
Better to learn than to never learn at all, but best to know from the beginning
Some of us have someone like an immunocompromised relative and are trying to do everything possible to shield them as much as possible from everything. If it weren’t for that I wouldn’t take it since I myself am not vulnerable to covid. Also going to get a flu vaccine that I normally wouldn’t bother with.
If it were just me I wouldn’t do it but I’m trying to shield someone else who’s vulnerable to all kinds of crap which is actually a pain in the ass even without covid.
I get what you're saying but they've been saying from the get go the vaccine won't help with the spread so why fucking bother if that is true?
What I’ve read is that they don’t actually know if it would measurably retard the spread on a large scale because apparently they can’t even figure that out for the flu vaccine.
On a small scale like me possibly spreading it to one other specific immunocompromised person, it should definitely reduce the chances of me spreading it to them, but it’s certainly not 100%. Even after the second shot it’s like 94% effective at preventing “severe” cases (supposedly) and they don’t know exactly what that means for chance of spreading. So I still have to take precautions for covid and flu and other to avoid spreading stuff to them, but I’m just trying to do what I can to reduce risk.
It’s a difficult judgement call because we don’t really have solid info. I’m just trying to do what I can because I know for sure my brothers immune system is fucked right now and stuff that doesn’t usually kill you can kill him.
I respect that. Don’t let any haters get to you.
Sorry for your sick relative.
I still wouldn't get it.
It’ll suck when the protein growths on your brain turn you to a vegetable and you immune compromised relative has to care for you
Both vaccine makers says they have NO DATA on how the vaccine effectiveness in immunocompromised population.
Read it for yourself.
Pfizer document on page 46: https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download
Moderna document on page 48: https://www.fda.gov/media/144434/download
I’m not the one who’s immunocompromised, it’s my brother and he isn’t getting the vaccine. The doctors can’t decide if it’s even safe for him to get it and they know it may not do any good at all anyway. After all, vaccines of any sort rely on your immune system and if your immune system is fucked then it isn’t working so it’s like trying to program a broken machine.
I’m just getting it on the off chance that it reduces the chance of me spreading the virus to him if I were to get infected, which we also have no data on. Theoretically there ought to be some reduced risk to him but it can’t be quantified, and neither can the long term risk to me taking it due to no long term studies of this.
It’s a judgement call and I wouldn’t force anyone else to make the same call.
NPC alert
Why take the shot then.
How long has it been since you got it?
Fuck you. Why do you take that at first hand?!?! If you browse here, we tell everyone NOT to fucking take it.
They also said they plan to raise the price after the initial rollout and that they expect it to be their most lucrative product ever.
Does that give any hope that the damage gets undone over time?
Only one person has ever recovered from death.
Lazarus too. Well, one time.
But not by himself!
He had the best health care provider
Either way, I wouldn't risk it.
They keep saying that the stupids that got the injection will die when the next strain attacks, so I'm hoping their body flushes the code out before that!
Subscription boxes are so 2010s
AND just like a subscription box you never know what you're gonna get. Could be immunity, rashes, palsy, fever, or death. Spin the wheel!
Anyone remember the episode of Star Trek TNG where the Enterprise found a species of people on a planet that were essentially drug addicts because a neighboring planet had the only "cure" for what the people thought was an illness? They had to get their dose regularly or they would die. Sounding a bit familiar.
Maybe that's where they got the idea.
As for my and my family, hell no! Our body, our choice!
How is this different to the flu shot?
Flu shot is weakened germs your body practices on to build immunity. Pfizer shot is mRNA therapy that edits your DNA and turns you into one of those GMOs (genetically modified organisms) people are afraid to eat.
No it doesn’t edit your dna. mRNA can’t do that. Yea it’s weird and new, yea it uses mRNA encased in a fat glob, yea there are a lack of long term studies, but no it can’t edit your DNA.
Well it hijacks and replaces part of our own DNA's control of our cells, but there is the possibility that it interferes with our base DNA accidentally...
"Modified RNA has a direct effect on DNA" https://phys.org/news/2020-01-rna-effect-dna.html
It is very unscientific to claim that changing one part of DNA is independent of any other parts of body. For anything in the world, if one thing changes, everything else changes in response to it. The immune system is altered if something changes. This is basically the purpose of examining long-term effect. The science knows that the mRNA will create a spike protein, but there is no fucking evidence that it does something good and nothing bad!
I’m not dismissing the possibility of interfering with DNA because all kinds of stuff does that including ionizing radiation. Viruses also screw with your DNA which is how HPV could cause cancer. There’s even weird shit like this https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2167160/ where a bunch of our DNA is old virus DNA essentially that our ancestor species ended up with somehow.
But let’s face it, the mRNA vaccine doesn’t operate by gene editing and it doesn’t make you into a GMO. Worst case would be more like HPV causing cancer or something. I mean most DNA fuckery is cancer, not turning you into a green super mutant.
So no I’m not dismissing the concern here and I’m concerned about the lack of long term studies because we know weird stuff can happen that scientists didn’t expect. But it’s not gene editing.
The risks are also more like a small but significant number of people have a problem like that J&J blood clot issue. So the sort of thing I’d be afraid of is that a small but significant number of people get cancer or something.
The problem with medicine is that lots of stuff is a risk vs risk judgment by the doctor, and this gets difficult with a lack of data especially when it’s small risk vs small risk.
It's just hilarious the gluten-phobes, vegans, and GMO avoiders will line up for experimental mRNA injections. Normally I'm nothing but derisive towards such worries, but we know far too many doctors are making risk vs risk judgements based on politics and not medicine now. Then we have these half-assed "vaccines" (pending dictionary definition change) being discontinued or treatments revised on the daily this week... mRNA may just be a DNA middleman but if Fauci wanted actual cancerous green super mutants instead of the Bat-virus (TM) he'd pay a Chinese lab to work on mRNA instead. GMO isn't technically defined as having permanently edited DNA, so whether the cells are genetically altered via DNA or just RNA I'm just gonna call the injection virtue signalling karens GMOs.
Assholes like fauci are the whole problem here. They’re making it harder to be rational about all this. None of this should be some sort of political statement.
You mean there isn't a little CRISPR machine in each jab?
"Modified RNA has a direct effect on DNA" https://phys.org/news/2020-01-rna-effect-dna.html
Funny how non-medical/science people try to understand college level coursework. One of my friends once thought fat cells literally turned into muscle cells lol. At least the college level stuff is scary and off putting as something this new and not well known should be. Like a built in safety device, but it definitely leads to faulty info
I think people should be trying to honestly understand stuff and science shouldn’t be some priestly elite thing, but people saying stuff like everyone is going to turn into a zombie is not an honest attempt to understand anything.
From what I can gather the main issues/unknowns are 1) the LNPs (lipid nanoparticles) are a new thing we don’t have long term studies for, 2) the LNPs are “secret science” (trade secrets) that third-parties can’t examine, 3) some LNPs can get taken up by non-immune cells which theoretically shouldn’t be a problem but again, lack of long term studies.
Main thing I’m worried about is some unanticipated but relatively rare stochastic health problem similar to the J&J blood clot issue, but longer term and affecting more people. I’m less concerned though because the mRNA LNP stuff has been studied in animals for many years, but it’s still ethically wrong to force anyone to take this to keep their job etc.
True, people should be free from forced manipulation of their bodies to maintain a livelihood.
What I'm wondering is, how long after one dose of pfizer before the body is like it never had the shot? I
"Modified RNA has a direct effect on DNA" https://phys.org/news/2020-01-rna-effect-dna.html
Nobody cares if you don't get a flu shot. They are talking about forcing people to take the COVID shot. Also, the COVID shot is experimental and is questionably dangerous. The long term side effects of COVID shots are unknown.
Do try to keep up.
Since Covid seems to have replaced the flu, why do you care if I get a shot that is not FDA approved?
I don’t think anyone cares if you want to opt to get it, they’re just objecting to them being forced to get it. The experimental nature of it (mRNA LNP vaccine never deployed on a large scale before) especially makes it ethically wrong to force on people.
Totally agree with that.
Flu shot is injecting dioxin into your body. Covid shot is to make your body create toxic substance inside of your body.
$19.50 per dose contracted for 50 million (so far)
I told people there was a reason for having more than 2 slots on their China virus shot cards. Then they can have another when the first one is full.
Plus that way they can keep track so every tenth one is free!
They don’t know how long the body keeps making spike protein antibodies. I thought once a body can make antibodies it lasts a lifetime. These have an expiration date or is for another spike protein-like thingy?
The fact itself is a scary shit. We don't know at all if the spike protein does something good or bad. Not to mention, it is scary to think how your altered DNA affect other parts of DNA or do something else.
The flu has spike proteins its not just a covid thing.
Nope. Seems to work for some viruses but the more typical thing is for your immune system to “forget” stuff due to lack of exposure to the pathogen.
Immunology is super complicated and I don’t know why immunity lasts a lifetime for a few things but not others. Some stuff like chicken pox is complicated because you’re essentially immune to that for life but the dormant virus is what later causes shingles.
🤡 🌍
Heheheheheh hahahahahah ooohhh
Who could see that coming!??
"Is anyone surprised?"
No, i watch banned.video
How many times have you had the common cold?
Just had something. Still kinda do. Drank Mountain Dew Rise (zinc) with a few other things and a day of rest to pretty much kill it. .
Introduce vaccine that silently destroys immune system then require annual boosters. If you miss a booster you die slowly and it is used as “proof” of a deadly plague.
"More shots won't work any better, but it's good for our shareholders."
The unabomber was right
We must encourage all liberals to take the jabs...all of them...for their own good of course.
Doesn't sound like a vaccine at all....
First two are binary system to make you sick. Then you need shot every year to stay alive. Genius.!
Will it protect you from the next Chinese virus they will release before the mid-terms?
fuck big pharma
Bonus time for Pfizer execs!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marek%27s_disease
Source?
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/548492-pfizer-ceo-third-dose-of-covid-19-vaccine-likely-needed-within-12-months-of
Don't need sauce. It's about making vaccines partisan. Come on man get with it. The lefty shill here need us to not take the vaccine so they can weaponize jt against us.
I just made a post on this - worth watching. This is actually a rerun of Swine Flu
here's the link in case you missed it - https://rumble.com/vcgwf7-same-script-same-tactics-same-players-10-years-prior-they-tried-the-same-bu.html
and for new strains. So you need 4 or 6 shots a year. It means your death rate goes up by 400% to 600% times with a shot. After 5 years, 1 in 100 people would die because of the shots.
But they will be "free" right? /s
Vaccines are daily and mandatory now. Also, Russia is the primary threat, not Chyna.
This is their present bread-and-butter funding.
Nope.
😂😂😂😂😂
I bought their stock, because people are idiots and I'm a capitalist.