There's people who are Christian and are going to heaven who have bad views.
The one view that is the deciding factor is whether Jesus died for your sins and you trust him for the forgiveness of your sins.
When we die, every single one of us will have areas where our theology is bad, or we think something's the case that isn't for a variety of reasons.
No one dies with perfect theology. I find Catholoicism has a lot of screwed up beliefs, but I think there will be Catholics in heaven who ultimately trusted in Jesus for salvation, in spite of the tenents of catholicism.
Likewise I think there will be Christians in heaven who believed in evolution because they trusted in Jesus for the forgiveness of their sins, in spite of having a false view when it comes to our origin.
I agree that it's weird how a certain demographic of Christians are believers in evolution, and how they can't see it as a way bigger deal in terms of the Bible than it is. It seems like one of those things where if you reject the part of the Bible about how we were created, then why would you accept other parts of the Bible? Either it's God speaking His infallible word and will to us or it's not....It can't be 50/50. I think it's dangerous to believe in evolution, because it has led people astray, and is at odds with God's word even if it didn't. Those guys on youtube, Rhett and Link, their apostasy pretty much started from believing in evolution, and thinking that was more concrete than God's word. I heard them talk about it on their podcast (though as you could guess they didn't call it apostasy).
Good people don't get into Heaven...saved people do. People who choose which part of the bible they believe are weak in faith and stronger in mind. God wrote the instructions for us to follow in [B] basic [I] instructions [B] before [L] leaving [E] Earth.
I fear the Lord for my sins. I don't know how you would know if they will be accepted, at the same time how could I know they won't. I have to ask for forgiveness for myself everyday.
Doubters need more prayer and education to understand the tremendous creation called the Uni(one) Verse (spoken). Just it's name confirms his creation. How can a Christian doubt that.
I never used the word good. I described salvation when I talked about who will be in heaven.
Those who are forgiven by having faith in Jesus sacrifice to cover our sins.
I never said good. When I said bad views, I wasn't saying good or bad people. We're all bad and sinful and no one is righteous before God, only Jesus. I was just saying, everyone who's in heaven goes there imperfectly, including our views. We're glorified when we see Jesus face to face, so it's then that we become perfect.
Truly the only theological issue that separates the saved between the unsaved is whether they trust in Jesus' sacrifice.
It's not "Trust that Jonah was literally swallowed by a whale" in order to receive the Holy Spirit and be forgiven and be saved. I believe Jonah was literally swallowed by a whale or big fish btw, I was just using an example.
It's trust in the Lord Jesus for forgiveness of sins in order to be saved.
A Christian shouldn't believe in evolution for a myriad of reasons, but I wouldn't go as far as to say there won't be Christians in heaven who believed in evolution for one reason or another.
Also weak faith does not mean no faith. And also the stories not over for many of these Christians. They may believe in evolution now, but after being sanctified maybe in ten years they don't.
So that's why I'm not willing to so easily throw out every person who professes to believe in Jesus Christ who also believes in evolution as not a true believer in Jesus aka not truly saved.
Explain?
You're saying all the Christians who believe in evolution believe they're God?
Or just the scientists doing things like this?
I was speaking more broadly on the issue of believing in evolution as a Christian generally.
If you believe in evolution you deny God. You can't be a Christian and deny God.
I wouldn't be as black and white there.
There's people who are Christian and are going to heaven who have bad views.
The one view that is the deciding factor is whether Jesus died for your sins and you trust him for the forgiveness of your sins.
When we die, every single one of us will have areas where our theology is bad, or we think something's the case that isn't for a variety of reasons.
No one dies with perfect theology. I find Catholoicism has a lot of screwed up beliefs, but I think there will be Catholics in heaven who ultimately trusted in Jesus for salvation, in spite of the tenents of catholicism.
Likewise I think there will be Christians in heaven who believed in evolution because they trusted in Jesus for the forgiveness of their sins, in spite of having a false view when it comes to our origin.
I agree that it's weird how a certain demographic of Christians are believers in evolution, and how they can't see it as a way bigger deal in terms of the Bible than it is. It seems like one of those things where if you reject the part of the Bible about how we were created, then why would you accept other parts of the Bible? Either it's God speaking His infallible word and will to us or it's not....It can't be 50/50. I think it's dangerous to believe in evolution, because it has led people astray, and is at odds with God's word even if it didn't. Those guys on youtube, Rhett and Link, their apostasy pretty much started from believing in evolution, and thinking that was more concrete than God's word. I heard them talk about it on their podcast (though as you could guess they didn't call it apostasy).
Good people don't get into Heaven...saved people do. People who choose which part of the bible they believe are weak in faith and stronger in mind. God wrote the instructions for us to follow in [B] basic [I] instructions [B] before [L] leaving [E] Earth.
I fear the Lord for my sins. I don't know how you would know if they will be accepted, at the same time how could I know they won't. I have to ask for forgiveness for myself everyday.
Doubters need more prayer and education to understand the tremendous creation called the Uni(one) Verse (spoken). Just it's name confirms his creation. How can a Christian doubt that.
I never used the word good. I described salvation when I talked about who will be in heaven.
Those who are forgiven by having faith in Jesus sacrifice to cover our sins.
I never said good. When I said bad views, I wasn't saying good or bad people. We're all bad and sinful and no one is righteous before God, only Jesus. I was just saying, everyone who's in heaven goes there imperfectly, including our views. We're glorified when we see Jesus face to face, so it's then that we become perfect.
Truly the only theological issue that separates the saved between the unsaved is whether they trust in Jesus' sacrifice.
It's not "Trust that Jonah was literally swallowed by a whale" in order to receive the Holy Spirit and be forgiven and be saved. I believe Jonah was literally swallowed by a whale or big fish btw, I was just using an example.
It's trust in the Lord Jesus for forgiveness of sins in order to be saved.
A Christian shouldn't believe in evolution for a myriad of reasons, but I wouldn't go as far as to say there won't be Christians in heaven who believed in evolution for one reason or another.
Also weak faith does not mean no faith. And also the stories not over for many of these Christians. They may believe in evolution now, but after being sanctified maybe in ten years they don't.
So that's why I'm not willing to so easily throw out every person who professes to believe in Jesus Christ who also believes in evolution as not a true believer in Jesus aka not truly saved.