It was a very fun movie and a great source of memes. But I would like to see a Starship Troopers film that's more true to the book; with the Mobile Infantry fighting in powered armor suits.
And that parody failed completely because the filmmaker didn't even read the book or understand the details of the story, so he left in all the stuff in that showed the Federation was a liberal republic with free press and immediate repercussions for failed leadership, no coercion to join the military, freedom of movement even if you were going somewhere dangerous etc.
Starship Troopers (the book) was above all a Heinlein's manifesto on how a "worthy" society would look like - so at least the motto "service guarantees citizenship" is kind of true to the book. But it goes deeper than that - Civilians are not inferior to Citizens - there are advantages and disadvantages to both and is foremost a free choice anybody can make according to their own beliefs and agency.
Another Heinlein's book is also very interesting: The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress. It also explores freedom and liberty and is very thought-provoking if you care to forgive its cheesy early sci-fi setting.
Johnny Rico's dad is a civilian, and he's a very successful businessman. The only difference between civilians and citizens is the right to vote. Although some occupations, like police officer, tend to favor hiring candidates who are citiizens.
iirc, it was supposed to be a hatchet job, an ott pisstake of the book. Except it backfired because everyone loved it, they realised the truth in it, and its still being memed hard 25 years later.
We have Soldiers. A LOT. What we need are officers we know and a strategy we know to be true from those we know and trust (looking at you "tRuSt tEh pLan" dipshits).---- Some advise to team up at the micro with people you KNOW and know are solid enough for to take action with you in something cultural, social, media, politics or law. --- Take in mind personal security but nothing proactive or obviously intended to even cause real fear of physical danger (they'll lie anyway don't make it easy for them).
If I die, I have to go before him, and he will ask me, "What is the riddle of steel?" If I don't know it, he will cast me out of Valhalla and laugh at me.
Conan- poor kid who lived in a hut
Arnold- so poor he did not have shoes
Conan- put to hard labor which made him strong
Arnold- worked out with weights which made him strong
Crom's riddle of steel is interesting because it's a metaphysical riddle. You can't simply think of the answer. You have to be the answer. You have to forge your mind, body, and spirit, like the steel you wield so you can crush your enemies.
It was originally said by sergeant major Daniel Daly at the Battle of belleau wood in world war I. He was Marine corps enlisted and not an army officer.
I'm not sure, but I would support that. It is one of my favorite novels, and it taught me to have a respect for those who are willing to place their own body between their families and War's desolation
COME ON, YOU APES, YOU WANNA LIVE FOREVER?!
SERVICE GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP!
I love this movie.
It was a very fun movie and a great source of memes. But I would like to see a Starship Troopers film that's more true to the book; with the Mobile Infantry fighting in powered armor suits.
This movie was meant to be a parody of the book.
And that parody failed completely because the filmmaker didn't even read the book or understand the details of the story, so he left in all the stuff in that showed the Federation was a liberal republic with free press and immediate repercussions for failed leadership, no coercion to join the military, freedom of movement even if you were going somewhere dangerous etc.
I could never stand the movie. When if first came out - it was really 'woke' before that word existed.
Starship Troopers (the book) was above all a Heinlein's manifesto on how a "worthy" society would look like - so at least the motto "service guarantees citizenship" is kind of true to the book. But it goes deeper than that - Civilians are not inferior to Citizens - there are advantages and disadvantages to both and is foremost a free choice anybody can make according to their own beliefs and agency.
Another Heinlein's book is also very interesting: The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress. It also explores freedom and liberty and is very thought-provoking if you care to forgive its cheesy early sci-fi setting.
Johnny Rico's dad is a civilian, and he's a very successful businessman. The only difference between civilians and citizens is the right to vote. Although some occupations, like police officer, tend to favor hiring candidates who are citiizens.
They did in the third movie and the animated movies
WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?
I haven't seen this movie in a long time, so I'm making my husband watch this with me tonight.
Alien slaughter and chill? Very nice.
wear something sexy because the shower scene will give him a boner
"Never pass up a good thing" - Radzcak to Johnny re: Dizzy
We'll be sure to extend our congratulations in approximately October/November.
He's powerless to resist.
(Joking of course)
More like ActiveSusan, good call
iirc, it was supposed to be a hatchet job, an ott pisstake of the book. Except it backfired because everyone loved it, they realised the truth in it, and its still being memed hard 25 years later.
Heinlein wrote an idealized libertarian/liberal society. Where you can do anything as long as you're responsible for it.
Verhoven read it and said "wow, that's so fascistic" and tailored the movie as such.
Verhoeven admits that he never even finished the book because he found it "depressing."
WE NEED SOLDIERS
We have Soldiers. A LOT. What we need are officers we know and a strategy we know to be true from those we know and trust (looking at you "tRuSt tEh pLan" dipshits).---- Some advise to team up at the micro with people you KNOW and know are solid enough for to take action with you in something cultural, social, media, politics or law. --- Take in mind personal security but nothing proactive or obviously intended to even cause real fear of physical danger (they'll lie anyway don't make it easy for them).
You're right, we put you in charge! Field promotion to Lt. It's all yours.
https://youtu.be/znYHzIqfc2Q?t=443
That quote (originally said by an American Army officer in World War I) was also paraphrased in the 1982 Conan the Barbarian film.
Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their women.
If I die, I have to go before him, and he will ask me, "What is the riddle of steel?" If I don't know it, he will cast me out of Valhalla and laugh at me.
Conan- poor kid who lived in a hut
Arnold- so poor he did not have shoes
Conan- put to hard labor which made him strong
Arnold- worked out with weights which made him strong
Conan- became a fighter to entertain people
Arnold- became an actor to entertain people
Conan- crowned king of Cimmeria
Arnold- crowned governor of California
Crom's riddle of steel is interesting because it's a metaphysical riddle. You can't simply think of the answer. You have to be the answer. You have to forge your mind, body, and spirit, like the steel you wield so you can crush your enemies.
Arnold: Married a Kennedy, fucked the maid, became a giant liberal douchebag.
I read that in Arnold's voice.
This guy hears pictures of words.
It was originally said by sergeant major Daniel Daly at the Battle of belleau wood in world war I. He was Marine corps enlisted and not an army officer.
I read Ghengis Khan.
I didn't know he was an author.
The book should be required reading.
Reading should be required.
Touche.
Severely underrated comment.
The only flaw is, people need to be reading actual content, and not "Natural Karen Goddess' Holistic Homeopathic War on Vaccines" on Facebook.
Didn't it used to be on a recommended reading list for military somewhere?
I'm not sure, but I would support that. It is one of my favorite novels, and it taught me to have a respect for those who are willing to place their own body between their families and War's desolation
fucking kek
No but I do want to live free!