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MAGASpaceCat 65 points ago +65 / -0

SERVICE GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP!

I love this movie.

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CisSiberianOrchestra 37 points ago +37 / -0

It was a very fun movie and a great source of memes. But I would like to see a Starship Troopers film that's more true to the book; with the Mobile Infantry fighting in powered armor suits.

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rootGoose 27 points ago +28 / -1

This movie was meant to be a parody of the book.

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Herpawinski 29 points ago +29 / -0

And that parody failed completely because the filmmaker didn't even read the book or understand the details of the story, so he left in all the stuff in that showed the Federation was a liberal republic with free press and immediate repercussions for failed leadership, no coercion to join the military, freedom of movement even if you were going somewhere dangerous etc.

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CisSiberianOrchestra 18 points ago +18 / -0

The reason the book was called fascist by some people was because in order to become a citizen with the right to vote, a person must complete a term of federal service (which is often, but not always, military service). Heinlein was accused on basing this on Nazi Germany. But Heinlein himself says that he used Switzerland as inspiration.

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Master_Wyatt_Gurp 30 points ago +30 / -0

I'm a simple man, I see titties in the shower scene, I give it a thumbs up.

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QLARP -10 points ago +2 / -12

Well it says fascism is bad, so maybe that is why you subconsciously didn't like it?

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frankblank 11 points ago +11 / -0

Starship Troopers (the book) was above all a Heinlein's manifesto on how a "worthy" society would look like - so at least the motto "service guarantees citizenship" is kind of true to the book. But it goes deeper than that - Civilians are not inferior to Citizens - there are advantages and disadvantages to both and is foremost a free choice anybody can make according to their own beliefs and agency.

Another Heinlein's book is also very interesting: The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress. It also explores freedom and liberty and is very thought-provoking if you care to forgive its cheesy early sci-fi setting.

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CisSiberianOrchestra 6 points ago +6 / -0

Johnny Rico's dad is a civilian, and he's a very successful businessman. The only difference between civilians and citizens is the right to vote. Although some occupations, like police officer, tend to favor hiring candidates who are citiizens.

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ToxicTroublemaker 2 points ago +2 / -0

They did in the third movie and the animated movies

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MasklessMarvel 12 points ago +13 / -1

WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?

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LazySusan 12 points ago +12 / -0

I haven't seen this movie in a long time, so I'm making my husband watch this with me tonight.

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Datamancer 13 points ago +13 / -0

Alien slaughter and chill? Very nice.

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MasklessMarvel 10 points ago +10 / -0

wear something sexy because the shower scene will give him a boner

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LibertarianXian 2 points ago +2 / -0

"Never pass up a good thing" - Radzcak to Johnny re: Dizzy

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Shadowreaper07 9 points ago +9 / -0

We'll be sure to extend our congratulations in approximately October/November.

He's powerless to resist.

(Joking of course)

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redbeard 3 points ago +3 / -0

More like ActiveSusan, good call

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BoffoTheClown 10 points ago +10 / -0

iirc, it was supposed to be a hatchet job, an ott pisstake of the book. Except it backfired because everyone loved it, they realised the truth in it, and its still being memed hard 25 years later.

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Bogey 8 points ago +8 / -0

Heinlein wrote an idealized libertarian/liberal society. Where you can do anything as long as you're responsible for it.

Verhoven read it and said "wow, that's so fascistic" and tailored the movie as such.

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CisSiberianOrchestra 5 points ago +5 / -0

Verhoeven admits that he never even finished the book because he found it "depressing."

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LibertarianXian 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yea and didn't do justice to the very cool cyborg-ish military equipment depicted in the book. That was one of my biggest disappointments about the film. Maybe it was partly a budget thing because those war suits would've cost a lot in CGI and material.

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Hussar 7 points ago +7 / -0

WE NEED SOLDIERS

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Herpawinski 4 points ago +4 / -0

We have Soldiers. A LOT. What we need are officers we know and a strategy we know to be true from those we know and trust (looking at you "tRuSt tEh pLan" dipshits).---- Some advise to team up at the micro with people you KNOW and know are solid enough for to take action with you in something cultural, social, media, politics or law. --- Take in mind personal security but nothing proactive or obviously intended to even cause real fear of physical danger (they'll lie anyway don't make it easy for them).

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GODwins76 3 points ago +3 / -0

You're right, we put you in charge! Field promotion to Lt. It's all yours.

https://youtu.be/znYHzIqfc2Q?t=443

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Herpawinski 1 point ago +2 / -1

OH GOD WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!