It was a very fun movie and a great source of memes. But I would like to see a Starship Troopers film that's more true to the book; with the Mobile Infantry fighting in powered armor suits.
And that parody failed completely because the filmmaker didn't even read the book or understand the details of the story, so he left in all the stuff in that showed the Federation was a liberal republic with free press and immediate repercussions for failed leadership, no coercion to join the military, freedom of movement even if you were going somewhere dangerous etc.
The reason the book was called fascist by some people was because in order to become a citizen with the right to vote, a person must complete a term of federal service (which is often, but not always, military service). Heinlein was accused on basing this on Nazi Germany. But Heinlein himself says that he used Switzerland as inspiration.
Heineken was accused on basing this on Nazi Germany. But Heinlein himself says that he used Switzerland as inspiration.
How does the saying go? When you’re a hammer, everything else looks like a nail to you. Well, when you are a liberal then everything else looks like a Nazi to you.
It also reminds me of the early Roman republic. The Romans had a three per party and the body that was the comitia centuriata (which was the popular assembly but originally in Rome those in the assembly also served as citizen as soldiers) was one of the bodies that passed laws and the only body that could vote for higher magistrates like the Consul, Praetor and Censor and the only way to become a high ranking magistrate was to have had some sort of command in the legions prior.
Sargon of Akkad made a video a while back where he talks about how the Starship Troopers film was supposed to be a satire of fascism and militarism, but it unintentionally made those things look awesome instead.
Starship Troopers (the book) was above all a Heinlein's manifesto on how a "worthy" society would look like - so at least the motto "service guarantees citizenship" is kind of true to the book. But it goes deeper than that - Civilians are not inferior to Citizens - there are advantages and disadvantages to both and is foremost a free choice anybody can make according to their own beliefs and agency.
Another Heinlein's book is also very interesting: The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress. It also explores freedom and liberty and is very thought-provoking if you care to forgive its cheesy early sci-fi setting.
Johnny Rico's dad is a civilian, and he's a very successful businessman. The only difference between civilians and citizens is the right to vote. Although some occupations, like police officer, tend to favor hiring candidates who are citiizens.
It was a very fun movie and a great source of memes. But I would like to see a Starship Troopers film that's more true to the book; with the Mobile Infantry fighting in powered armor suits.
This movie was meant to be a parody of the book.
And that parody failed completely because the filmmaker didn't even read the book or understand the details of the story, so he left in all the stuff in that showed the Federation was a liberal republic with free press and immediate repercussions for failed leadership, no coercion to join the military, freedom of movement even if you were going somewhere dangerous etc.
The reason the book was called fascist by some people was because in order to become a citizen with the right to vote, a person must complete a term of federal service (which is often, but not always, military service). Heinlein was accused on basing this on Nazi Germany. But Heinlein himself says that he used Switzerland as inspiration.
How does the saying go? When you’re a hammer, everything else looks like a nail to you. Well, when you are a liberal then everything else looks like a Nazi to you.
It also reminds me of the early Roman republic. The Romans had a three per party and the body that was the comitia centuriata (which was the popular assembly but originally in Rome those in the assembly also served as citizen as soldiers) was one of the bodies that passed laws and the only body that could vote for higher magistrates like the Consul, Praetor and Censor and the only way to become a high ranking magistrate was to have had some sort of command in the legions prior.
Israel also has mandatory service with the option of military or civil service if I remember correctly.
I could never stand the movie. When if first came out - it was really 'woke' before that word existed.
I'm a simple man, I see titties in the shower scene, I give it a thumbs up.
I remember saying to my buddy back then "The future looks very bright: co-ed showers and everybody looks like a J Crew model."
Well it says fascism is bad, so maybe that is why you subconsciously didn't like it?
Sargon of Akkad made a video a while back where he talks about how the Starship Troopers film was supposed to be a satire of fascism and militarism, but it unintentionally made those things look awesome instead.
No.... because it put men and women on a battlefield in equal roles... which was all the rage at the time.
Starship Troopers (the book) was above all a Heinlein's manifesto on how a "worthy" society would look like - so at least the motto "service guarantees citizenship" is kind of true to the book. But it goes deeper than that - Civilians are not inferior to Citizens - there are advantages and disadvantages to both and is foremost a free choice anybody can make according to their own beliefs and agency.
Another Heinlein's book is also very interesting: The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress. It also explores freedom and liberty and is very thought-provoking if you care to forgive its cheesy early sci-fi setting.
Johnny Rico's dad is a civilian, and he's a very successful businessman. The only difference between civilians and citizens is the right to vote. Although some occupations, like police officer, tend to favor hiring candidates who are citiizens.
They did in the third movie and the animated movies