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IncredibleMrE1 [S] 38 points ago +38 / -0

Suck a chode, Ted Lieu.

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ripley88 5 points ago +5 / -0

Please, he'd actually enjoy that.

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Moonman_Alpha 34 points ago +34 / -0

That shit head is one the most hateful pieces of shit in our country.

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deleted 29 points ago +29 / -0
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_Cabal_ 21 points ago +21 / -0

Native born, permanent residents, of native born citizens with no dual citizenship.

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24601 16 points ago +20 / -4

So...

Ted... you climbed over the fence ?

Oh. OK.

I thought you entered the country LEGALLY. No one around here is arguing about that type entry into the country.

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DrCowboyPresident 19 points ago +20 / -1

If they pass a law for 300 million legal immigrants a year, that'd be cool?

Nah. I'm for a total pause. Please stop putting words into people's mouths.

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Fuck_reddit34 3 points ago +5 / -2

Total pause for 50 years. And then only from civilized countries.

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braindeadgroup 2 points ago +2 / -0

It don’t make sense they want open borders, raised minimum wage which will primarily benefit non english speaking immigrants AND give universal basic income, free college free health care

No way is all of that stuff obtainable without destroying everything

If they want all that other stuff, then shut the border and don’t allow any immigration, even legal

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24601 -1 points ago +5 / -6

Nah. I'm for a total pause.

Legal immigration is controlled immigration. I didn't indicate a number of legal immigrants... just that the immigrants be of the LEGAL variety.

I agree that the number of LEGAL immigrants should be limited. But that is done with laws, not by simply tearing down the fence.

Unfortunately, there's no way to see what comment Mr. Ted is calling racist, because that message has been censored by Anti-American shit-head Dorsey.

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ObamasLooseButthole 8 points ago +10 / -2

Legal immigrant here... we're full.

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ImportantPerson 0 points ago +2 / -2

You're a fucking idiot. That's what you are. You and all the other morons spouting off bullshit about "we're full" or are completely opposed to any immigration need to learn what the fuck you are arguing against because you don't have a fucking clue.

You're on a Trump supporter website, so why the hell are you pushing policies that Trump doesn't support? He doesn't support what you are vomiting out because he's smarter than you and understands how immigration is self serving and capitalistic.

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Probably_tryna_sleep 2 points ago +2 / -0

We should start a policy that for every legal immigrant we take in as a country, we expel a natural born citizen who hates the USA, because of the obvious "institutionalized systemic racism". I'd take an immigrant who works hard to be the best American they can be, over a native born citizen who blames everyone else for their failures any day of the week lol

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NerBolanski -9 points ago +1 / -10

There are many problems you might encounter with this new immigrant that you haven’t put to perspective.The bar to be liked here is too low and that is our weakness.

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ObamasLooseButthole 0 points ago +1 / -1

He doesn't support what you are vomiting out

Trump supports the vaccine as well... do you support it?

You do realize you don't have to support everything the man does or thinks. You're allowed to have a mind of your own.

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ImportantPerson 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, you are allowed to have a mind of your own but here's the problem, the position that you are supporting in regards to immigration is fucking stupid. I'm saying that it's fucking stupid because you contradict everything that you presume to want. You want economic growth? Then guess what, you fucking support legal controlled merit based immigration. If you don't support legal controlled merit based immigration, then don't pretend that you give a shit about capitalism, economic growth or anything in that regard.

So, you go ahead and be a fucking idiot who is making all of us look bad. Go for it. Just make sure you realize how fucking dumb you are.

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ObamasLooseButthole 1 point ago +1 / -0

Like I said... we’re full. You’re free to leave and give your spot to an immigrant though.

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braindeadgroup 0 points ago +1 / -1

No more immigrants if these democrats want ubi and free health care etc

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NerBolanski -7 points ago +1 / -8

I like Trump but Trump played down certain things that ultimately destroyed him and this movement.he never knew that weaponizing immigration to change demographics is warfare(he didn’t go after big tech despite them censoring his supporters;he never talked about his white supporters who were killed;he didn’t talk about ashli babit.

He had his chance but he didn’t do enough.He was too scared on the 6th.

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ImportantPerson 2 points ago +2 / -0

No, he's smarter than you are. You are sitting there presuming that immigration is going to change demographics but that's NEVER going to happen in a controlled immigration scenario. The numbers of immigrants coming through as part of merit based immigration would avoid the problem from the start.

And let's get something straight, you want to cast judgment on Trump well then what the fuck have you done? Post some shitty posts on .win? Let me guess, you haven't done a fucking thing. You haven't contacted your reps. You haven't even spoken out to your own family. So, you want Trump to do something that you are too cowardly to do yourself?

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NerBolanski 1 point ago +1 / -0

I organize myself and spread awareness to a lot of people in my neighborhood.I am not a pussy like a lot of pedes here. The current Immigration system is not controlled by the American People but by globalist corporations and People who hate us. Trump was the best immigration president but he didn't tackle Illegal immigration enough; he should have deported all the illegal migrants during his first two years.

Merit-based Immigration is a great idea in theory but it also blocks out a lot of native workers. I hope you know that many merit-based H1B workers are heavily involved in tech censorship.

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BroadSunlitUplands 6 points ago +6 / -0

Once you are being goverened without consent, there is no meaningful difference between ‘legal’ immigration and ‘illegal’ immigration.

A duly elected government passing a law to allow more / easier legal immigration is one thing; an illegitimate government (illegitimate because it used fraud to steal power) doing so is quite another.

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current_horror 7 points ago +8 / -1

I am. Immigration is invasion.

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_Cabal_ 6 points ago +7 / -1

No one around here is arguing about that type entry into the country.

I am. Immigration moratorium can't come soon enough.

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left_reddit_for_this 3 points ago +4 / -1

Agreed!

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ImportantPerson -1 points ago +2 / -3

Ok, so you want to slow down economic growth? Do you enjoy shooting yourself in the foot? Maybe you do. I don't, but hey, you do you.

Economic growth is tied very heavily to population growth. When your births over deaths is as bad as it is right now in the US, you need to supplement that through immigration in order to promote economic growth. This is where MERIT BASED immigration comes into play, because you can bring people in who can IMMEDIATELY provide benefits to the economy.

Or you could just ignore the births over deaths problems until it's too late.

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_Cabal_ 0 points ago +1 / -1

Or you could just ignore the births over deaths problems until it's too late.

This is already happening. Immigration is just a bandaid that is both contributing to and preventing us from dealing with the actual problem, which then also creates many more problems of its own.

I'm not promoting a permanent moratorium. I want immigration to be halted temporarily, to both force us to deal with this problem, and for the sake of revamping immigration policies and processes entirely. Because what we have now is totally broken and cancerous.

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ImportantPerson 1 point ago +1 / -0

Democrats have a broken and cancerous system.

Trump didn't. Merit based immigration with a massive reduction on chain migration to focus on immediate benefits to the american economy.

And completely halting immigration won't do anything about lowered birth rates. Immigration is meant to supplement the birth rates, not the other way around. Cancelling immigration won't magically make women start popping out kids.

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_Cabal_ 1 point ago +1 / -0

Trump didn't fix immigration. He took some steps toward making it better, but it was still very broken. Any suggestion to the contrary is delusional.

And completely halting immigration won't do anything about lowered birth rates.

Not directly. And that was never the claim.

It will press upon people, or at least force them to confront the need to increase birth rates, however. Right now there's no direct need from an economic perspective, so it's become less of a social and economic responsibility. This lack of impetus on reproducing also arguably contributes to promotion of abortion and homosexuality, as well. Meanwhile, immigrants are filling opportunities that could be filled by citizens, thereby providing those citizens with the economic security and social capital to start families. And immigration as it stands also contributes to other social problems that may discourage people from bringing children into this society. So it could also be argued that immigration contributes to the decline in birth rates as well.

Immigration is meant to supplement the birth rates

Which is why a moratorium is needed. Immigration isn't supplementing birth rates, it's replacing them. A moratorium is needed to correct the disparity, and attempt to reach a more desirable balance, as we've had many years of destructive immigration policy on top of many years of anti-reproduction policy from all angles. Halting immigration gives us a chance to evaluate new goals, and implement new strategies, and then adjust immigration to function within certain parameters. Plus, immigration policy as a whole needs to be totally revamped, from the ground up. And the best way to begin doing that is to shut it down and start from scratch. But again, we need proper goals and parameters to construct that new policy around, which again makes shutting it down make sense.

Cancelling immigration won't magically make women start popping out kids.

Good thing I never said it would. Your straw men aren't useful.

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ImportantPerson 1 point ago +1 / -0

Trump didn't fix immigration. He took some steps toward making it better, but it was still very broken. Any suggestion to the contrary is delusional.

Did I say he fixed it? No, but that's not stopping you from arguing just like a piece of shit liberal and claiming that I did. I don't even know why I'm continuing to respond right now because you've already proven yourself to be a piece of shit right there. I will continue because maybe there's still hope that you can learn.

It will press upon people, or at least force them to confront the need to increase birth rates, however.

I want you to read what you just said. Read exactly what you said right here and then scroll down to where you say that you aren't doing this and claiming that it's a strawman. This is what you represent. A liar, a coward and nothing but contradictions.

Meanwhile, immigrants are filling opportunities that could be filled by citizens, thereby providing those citizens with the economic security and social capital to start families.

Prove it. I'm done wasting time with your narrative. Go fucking prove what you just said and then make sure you account for merit based immigration policies. Here's exactly what you are going to find. Your comments are based off of NOT HAVING MERIT BASED IMMIGRATION. If you need someone to explain to you what merit based immigration means, then just ask so you can learn. When you don't understand it and you vomit out WRONG information like you are doing right now, guess what happens? You give moron liberals easy arguments against it.

And immigration as it stands also contributes to other social problems that may discourage people from bringing children into this society.

You're a joke. If you have to make up stories just to fit your narrative, then you BELONG in some liberal subreddit because that's exactly what they do and it doesn't work. You LOSE every argument with anyone who doesn't blindly believe the same things you do when you make arguments like this. They aren't based on fact or anything objective. It's belief masquerading as argument and it doesn't work. It's a waste of time.

So it could also be argued that immigration contributes to the decline in birth rates as well.

I don't care if you want to try to argue it, but if you can't bring something that can be supported to the table then you are wasting your time. If you can't even convince me, how the fuck are you going to get anyone else to agree with you? This needs to be a sign that you need to do more research and put in more effort to your beliefs.

Immigration isn't supplementing birth rates, it's replacing them.

This is 100% made up bullshit that you can't support. I want you to know, fundamentally KNOW, that you will gain NOTHING with the statement you just made.

If you want to push stupid narrative, then go hang out with liberals. If you want to actually discuss this in a real sense, then leave the bullshit made up narrative at the door because I will call it out every single time that it comes out.

Halting immigration gives us a chance to evaluate new goals, and implement new strategies, and then adjust immigration to function within certain parameters.

Here's the question that you are running away from right now. What does immigration have to do with any of this? Why should we accept regressive economic growth like you are desiring just so that we can implement policies that aren't impacted by immigration at all? You aren't thinking through your comments at all. You are so caught up wanting immigration to be the problem that you have lost all objectivity.

How much economic loss for you is acceptable? Which americans do you want to fuck over with your policies? America First right? Except when you are activity seeking policies that hurt them.

Good thing I never said it would. Your straw men aren't useful.

Scroll up.

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NerBolanski -7 points ago +2 / -9

Bullshit.if you think all a nation needs is GDP, your idea is great.Japan,China,Europe all have bad birth rates and they aren’t directly replacing themselves and calling it »merit based immigration « .

A lot of the merit based people would become citizens and import the dumbest of their kinds over here and you end up with twice the problems you didn’t expect.if you are concerned about birth rate,then American government should create birth propaganda and incentives for white couples.

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ImportantPerson 1 point ago +1 / -0

Don't sit there and claim bullshit just because you don't like it. That's how liberals argue and if you're a liberal, then get the fuck out.

Yes, EU and China are benefitting from population growth. Japan is not because they aren't having consistent population growth. This is why several recent years they've had negative GDP growth.

Further to that, I don't fucking know how you fucking morons start vomiting out this "replacement" bullshit, but it's fundamentally not understanding even the most BASIC concepts in terms of legal immigration. To make it extremely blunt, you have to FAIL grade school math to think that the immigration numbers here would cause any demographic replacement. Democrats wanting to legalize 25 million people, yes, but we're not democrats. We're talking numbers that are trivial in comparison to that.

A lot of the merit based people would become citizens and import the dumbest of their kinds over here and you end up with twice the problems you didn’t expect.

You call my post bullshit and then you vomit out this horseshit? Fucking hell dude, you are making every one of us look like idiots with this crap.

What you are talking about is CHAIN migration and guess what, Trump who is smarter than you was already trying to address that by reducing the ability to utilize chain migration. But you don't care about that because you've done ZERO FUCKING RESEARCH. Fucking tired of you pathetic posers.

if you are concerned about birth rate,then American government should create birth propaganda and incentives for white couples.

Yes, I am concerned about birth rates and you should be as well but we're not talking about getting people to fuck each other. We're talking about how immigration can supplement lower birth rates just like it has THROUGHOUT HISTORY. With merit based immigration, guess what happens? You don't have to wait for the kid to turn 18 before they can start adding to the economy.

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NerBolanski 1 point ago +1 / -0

Japan still has a sustainable society despite the demographic situation. China allows foreigners to Immigrate but not get citizenship; Most foreigners plan to work in China as long-term expats, not as a path to citizenship. European Nations(Mostly western Europe) is having bad social cohesion at the moment; Most of the Immigrants are not adapting and I am sure it is more merit-based than America.

Legal Immigration is worse than Illegal Immigration in one aspect; Legal migrants are more in number and democrats have been caught using this demography of people to pass laws.I get your point about us having low immigration numbers but I think a short Immigration moratorium is better;it is better for us to focus inwards and build ourselves and our children for at least 10 years.

Trump took a long time before he became effective on Migration. Ann colter had to troll him for a while. Trump was thinking of importing legal immigrants at the highest numbers possible before Stephen miller told him about the bad effects of legal migration.

A nation is worth more than GDP or Economic benefits. A lot of people would prefer living in a poor, more cohesive, or homogenous peaceful environment to a wealthy richly diverse, more chaotic, and heterogeneous enviroment.

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ImportantPerson 1 point ago +1 / -0

Japan still has a sustainable society despite the demographic situation.

Don't move the goalposts. What the hell do you think you are doing here? You are BLATANTLY moving the goal posts because the entire argument was about economic growth and I pointed out that Japan has had negative economic growth multiple recent years. Why do you think you aren't going to get called out on moving the goal posts? I don't get it.

China allows foreigners to Immigrate but not get citizenship; Most foreigners plan to work in China as long-term expats, not as a path to citizenship.

Which contribute to population growth and through that, economic growth.

European Nations(Mostly western Europe) is having bad social cohesion at the moment; Most of the Immigrants are not adapting and I am sure it is more merit-based than America.

There's a bigger discussion here because of the role of immigration versus refugees. EU is getting fucked over by refugees, not specifically immigration but it's causing the problems that you are having.

France is a great example because they don't have merit based immigration policies AND they have taken in a huge amount of refugees. Germany is different in that they do have merit based immigration policies but they've also taken HUGE amounts of immigrants in.

It's all leading to this major problem.

Legal Immigration is worse than Illegal Immigration in one aspect; Legal migrants are more in number and democrats have been caught using this demography of people to pass laws.

Where did you come up with that because that's a load of bullshit.

No, seriously, I would love to see literally ANYTHING that supports this.

I get your point about us having low immigration numbers but I think a short Immigration moratorium is better;it is better for us to focus inwards and build ourselves and our children for at least 10 years.

10 years of population growth stagnation will have a major impact on economic growth. So, you think that's a good idea? Economic stagnation?

You are fucking over Americans with your proposal.

Why is it so hard to realize that immigration is SELF SERVING? It's CAPITALISTIC. It's for the benefit of the whole American society.

I'm fucking sick and tired of trying to convince uneducated people that their complete ignorance of the purpose of immigration will HURT AMERICA.

Trump took a long time before he became effective on Migration.

I noticed you used the word "Migration" here. Why? Well, here's what I'm assuming. I'm assuming that you did this because you wanted to avoid drawing the distinction between legal and illegal immigration considering that Trump was taking action on illegal immigration from nearly day 1 with everything from the national guard to building the wall. LEGAL immigration was always going to be the secondary because LEGAL immigration doesn't matter when you have TWENTY TIMES that amount of illegal immigrants coming into the country than legal.

Trump was thinking of importing legal immigrants at the highest numbers possible before Stephen miller told him about the bad effects of legal migration.

That's narrative. The "highest numbers possible" was trivial. The amounts of legal immigrants was a fraction of the amount of illegal immigrants. Stephen Miller didn't so much tell Trump of the bad effects but pointed out the lack of merit based immigration which WOULD create a problem with legal immigration.

A nation is worth more than GDP or Economic benefits. A lot of people would prefer living in a poor, more cohesive, or homogenous peaceful environment to a wealthy richly diverse, more chaotic, and heterogeneous enviroment.

Well, a lot of people will say that until they are actually put in that position. Just so that we're clear here, I'm accusing you of being a complete hypocrite here where you will say exactly what you just did but would be crying like a bitch if you were the one getting impacted by this.

The people you are talking about are fucking morons. If that's you saying that, then I'll go ahead and call you a fucking moron.

Do you know what it's called when you don't have economic growth? It's called a recession. Growth is the minimum. Recessions cause reductions in investments and feed into further recession that ultimately results in the government needing to intervene in order to correct the problem. Is that what you want? If you don't care about economic growth, then stop pretending that you are America First because you are going to put more people out of jobs than anything that immigration would.

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NerBolanski 1 point ago +1 / -0

The Chinese population is already too large; so Chinese economic growth is mostly through FDIs and their inward market of 1 .3 billion chinese.

Ireland imported a lot of Africans and they are still causing issues. most of the Africans are not refugees. Canada runs a merit-based immigration system and its social cohesion is getting worse.

I think the poor economic situation is bad but more money isn't everything. I like capitalism but people of the Nation should matter before Economics.I think the USA should remove welfare incentives, build the wall, focus inwards, and do limited immigration or immigration moratorium.

Immigration was meant for our benefit in the 20s-60s but ever since 1965, immigration is a tool used by states, globalists and corporations as means of warfare against americans.

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braindeadgroup 2 points ago +2 / -0

fuck em all

If I’m gonna get treated like i hate all these people with no distinction of illegal/legal or race no race then fuck it. I was trying to be nice, you want to add a bunch of shit on what i say and mean, then fuck it ill ride for that too and say fuck them too

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BroadSunlitUplands 4 points ago +4 / -0

*were a country of laws.

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NerBolanski -9 points ago +1 / -10

Conservatives hate the founding fathers without realizing it.they claim »we are a nation of ideas not identity ».this doesn’t work.they also claim «  we are nation of laws »;this isn’t working.

Why can’t conservatives claim we are a nation of people?we deserve to retain the unique demographics.

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MakinBacon 7 points ago +8 / -1

I don't have a problem with people that "look" like him, I have a problem with people that "think" and act like "him", unamerican and unpatriotic. I'm also rightfully concerned with foreign born legislators, particularly ones that started in Taiwan and now live in Torrance, both ARE commie areas of operations right?

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vespasiano -10 points ago +6 / -16

So... people who look like him essentially. Only Europeans can continue European civilization/culture.

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MakinBacon 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's pretty much the opposite of what I said, but whatever

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NerBolanski -6 points ago +1 / -7

That is the painful truth many pedes need to realize.

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krackenPie 2 points ago +3 / -1

This is they way to reply to these un american assholes of EVERY race, color, creed or political stripe. It disarms them and puts them on notice that beging callrd that means nothing. I practically wear it as a badge of honor these days.

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ModelMinority 6 points ago +8 / -2

A disgrace to the Asians who arrived in the US because of actual political refuge. Send him to China to see what he's missing out here in the States.

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Kaarous 3 points ago +4 / -1

The survivors will be deported.

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Fabius 3 points ago +3 / -0

And one day, for no reason at all, a man was elected.

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BoffoTheClown 1 point ago +1 / -0

We can but hope.

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zerocooltx 2 points ago +2 / -0

Lefties ALWAYS try to have their cake and eat it too. Always.

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boomerbutnotOKBoomer 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ted Lieu is a plant from the CCP. Change my mind.

He is born of Taiwanese parents, so he should know better how dangerous the CCP is, but he appears to be singing their theme song.

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the-mighty-kc 2 points ago +3 / -1

Nobody asked you Ted.

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fs92c 2 points ago +2 / -0

This degenerate faggot rapes drugged up black men with his sick pal Ed Buck.

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boomerbutnotOKBoomer 2 points ago +2 / -0

This commie is such a POS. His arrogance and complete lack of understanding of what makes America America is beyond the pale. Hopefully he's one of the ones who will be caught with kiddy porn and deported to Gitmo

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rentfREEEE_since2016 2 points ago +2 / -0

Lol. Thanks for importing below living wage slave labor? Why do we need to import immigrants when there are plenty of unemployed in the USA as is? Oh that’s right, slave labor. Glad to see you’re on board with that Ted.

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LarryBugman 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wow, it used to only be a meme but here it is in a tweet.

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Lu-Bu 2 points ago +3 / -1

"You can't stop it"

"Racist replacement theory"

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PostyMcGee 1 point ago +1 / -0

Even East Asians hate and dispossess Whites in the end. Remember that. Foreign born or born in the US, if they're not White, they're not American.

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bit0101 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't want to hear anything from someone who was such a failure in their own homeland that they had to run away.

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Fabius 1 point ago +1 / -0

Jew Shill.

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Sgt_Hatred 1 point ago +1 / -0

and more colored people to hunt you down and beat your ass.. and less white people to protect you. lol

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Ronpaulblican2 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ted should be deported! Lolol

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malooch 1 point ago +1 / -0

i bet he diddles kids

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TBGJC 1 point ago +1 / -0

Then why can't he run for President?

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MarginofFraud 1 point ago +1 / -0

Spends 90 percent of the tweet describing the so called "theory" in terms that are actually happening. Final 10 percent calling it a "racist theory." The guy is a moron.

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Barbs 1 point ago +3 / -2

Ted Lieu and Maizie Hirono are competing for stupidest Asian.

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Peashout 1 point ago +1 / -0

So he's chinese?

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bf4truth 1 point ago +2 / -1

room temp IQ individual

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jperrin945 1 point ago +2 / -1

Get fucked Teddy ya fag, You MIGHT both be American BUT only one of you loves America. Ted is a POS

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FagBI 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's only racist when white people say it guys.

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TheWinningNeverStops 1 point ago +1 / -0

Is this guy chinese? Legit looks and sounds like a plant...

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jdur -14 points ago +1 / -15

I'm pro open boarders. It works when American's receive the worlds greatest education, have the worlds largest manufacturing facilities, drugs are legal so we don't care for you shitty cartel products, have small limited government without handouts. If you come here illegally, you simply have to work hard to fill the gap of not being a citizen or die.

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24601 10 points ago +10 / -0

If you come here illegally, you...

are a criminal AND an invader by definition and should therefore be immediately arrested and deported without any questions whatsoever.

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Patriot3per 2 points ago +2 / -0

If someone invades my house they'll be lucky if they make it to the "arrested" portion of me dealing with them. Not sure why we treat our property as sacred but refuse to treat our border the same.

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jdur -11 points ago +1 / -12

Yeah, missing my point. The incentive for shit people to come here doesn't exist. So illegal immigration isn't a big issue. People looking to work and have a better life are now open to an easier immigration process.

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24601 7 points ago +7 / -0

The incentive for shit people to come here doesn't exist.

You must be high on something...

At the moment, crossing the border illegally gets you free health care, free in-person education for your children (while many American citizens are sitting on Zoom), Government issued spending money, as well as a decent job AND NO TAXES.

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jdur -3 points ago +1 / -4

Again, missing point (read my post below).

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cuhboose 5 points ago +5 / -0

No they aren't missing your point. Your point, even the one you reference below is a totally useless point and one that doesn't even follow it's own logic.

They come here illegally, they get free health care, money, housing and schooling oh and work tax free to send money back home to their families. They aren't sacrificing shit, they aren't being brave, they are just coming to game a broken system.

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jdur -4 points ago +1 / -5

lmao. You guys are fucking retards. I feel like I am being trolled even though it was a troll post. I was referencing my comment, "So we can't have open boarders any time soon.". Meaning under the conditions I laid out (America being fully returned to being America), open boarders work. Since America is so far removed from being America and we de-evolve by promoting less intelligent people to reproduce, and less intelligent people to immigrate here, open boarders don't work. Closed boarders just reduce symptoms. Our average IQ is 10 points below China (Intelligence is genetic btw).

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cuhboose 4 points ago +4 / -0

Calls people retards, but replies with read my post below with his two other posts.

Read my response below as to why you are a dumbass.

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literallyhitler 7 points ago +7 / -0

100 million population increase since 1982.

naaah I'm good.

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jdur -5 points ago +1 / -6

Yeah but a lot of those immies did good things for America. It is the bulk that simply came here for free shit or drugs that are the issue. Like you are crazy if you don't think America would have benefited from hong kong immigrants. We pay for dumb people to populate here, while smart people focus on careers. So we basically are factories for the effect you are talking about illegals having. People here are fucking dumb.

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literallyhitler 1 point ago +1 / -0

what you are talking about would be a merit-based system and not 'open borders' at all.

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jdur -3 points ago +1 / -4

No. It is not a merit-based system, and it is open boarder. I get what you mean but open boarders has been so diluted in meaning (like socialism). I was talking about open boarders in terms of boarder control. To become a citizen you still have to go through the immigration process. Again, American's would be exposed to better education/prosperity and be at a high advantage to an immigrant, so the immigrant would have to work extremely hard to play catch up. Having a self moderating system is the best, why do you guys promote government (which is like a cancer, that continues to attempt to grow in size)?

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NerBolanski -6 points ago +1 / -7

Imagine being this stupid.

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jdur 1 point ago +1 / -0

Imagine being so pathetic that you resort to calling someone (who is much more intelligent) dumb with zero substantiation.

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NerBolanski 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lmao.

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ObamasLooseButthole 5 points ago +5 / -0

So you're for open borders, cocaine, meth, heroin etc. being legal and people coming over to take jobs from Americans... You're a retard and part of what's wrong with this country.

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TBGJC 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm against open borders but pro legalizing drugs.

Safer for drug user (pure products), takes money away from gangs and generates tax money

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ObamasLooseButthole 2 points ago +2 / -0

It also throws our country further into degeneracy.

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jdur 1 point ago +2 / -1

Lmao when will people realize this is a Karen argument? Will you use drugs if they are legal? No? So you are just that much smarter than the population. If people OD on drugs (OD's are usually caused from purity inconsistencies), then isn't it a good thing, eventually promoting a better society? We are paying billions to arrest and incarcerate people that possibly would have been tax payers if free. Why can't we return the power and responsibility to the individual? Why can't we realize that is the only way to eliminate the centralized corruption that allow elections to be stolen and people to be charged with 55 years for stopping a window from being broken at the capital.

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ObamasLooseButthole 3 points ago +3 / -0

that possibly would have been tax payers if free.

Nevermind, you're not retarded. You're clearly just a comedian.

I'm not even gonna bother answering the rest, it's either a joke or you just want to flood the streets with the worst of people. Either way it's not worth arguing because neither of us will change our minds.

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jdur 0 points ago +1 / -1

People in jail (without violent crime history) will likely be able to succeed. There are tons of people in jail that simply sold. When they get out, drugs will be cheaper and less profitable so they will have to look for another job. Assuming these people will become violent criminals is ridiculous (and they will be thrown back in jail if so), especially if jobs are ample with manufacturing returning, low taxes, ect. Think about how a doctor used to be able to wait tables part time and somehow become a doctor with zero debt. Market place distortions are the cause of big government, so every step taken to eliminate it, is a good thing. Again, you are getting trapped in a superficial argument and therefore you have logical fallacies. There is no political party/ideology, you are either pro-liberty or oppression. If you are in between, you are for a slower progression of oppression.

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ObamasLooseButthole 2 points ago +2 / -0

Assuming these people will become violent criminals is ridiculous

I never assumed that. I just called them degenerates which =/= only violent.

especially if jobs are ample with manufacturing returning, low taxes, ect.

And you said that once we are able to get jobs back you want to flood the country with uneducated laborers. So what would be the point of getting those jobs back if you just hand them out to everyone who comes in instead of Americans who have been here their entire lives?

Think about how a doctor used to be able to wait tables part time and somehow become a doctor with zero debt.

Yeah, that'll never happen again. I suggest looking into why tuitions got so high in the first place. Hint: It's not from lack of jobs.

Again, you are getting trapped in a superficial argument and therefore you have logical fallacies

I have seen what drugs do to people, I want to keep them out of the hands of people. I also don't want my country flooded with inbred retards who will work for $2/hr and put Americans out of work. If you think that's "superficial" then I guess you really aren't a comedian...

There is no political party/ideology, you are either pro-liberty or oppression.

lol. Of course, there are no inbetweens. EVERYTHING is an absolute. You're a joke.

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PostyMcGee 1 point ago +1 / -0

Creates criminals and demand. People high on drugs aren't taking care of their kids who grow up to cause more trouble. They also can't work and need to support their drug habit, so they rob and commit other crimes. Like when The Netherlands legalized prostitution and got more trafficking. People still sell illegal cigarettes, it's cheaper. Especially in a declining country where people are depressed about being dispossessed, many turn to drugs, think fentanyl. It'll only hasten the destruction and suicide of the West.

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jdur 0 points ago +2 / -2

Lmao, I assure you, I am not retarded. So let me explain this to you; drugs being legal transfers manufacturing to the US, currently being largely imported. Drugs are now available to be sold in stores, promoting purity and consistency (rather than the buffet of chemicals people currently get) and remove 33% of arrests (around 300 billion a year saving plus current incarcerations being released). Would you use drugs? No? So you are clearly just smarter than the rest of the population (I can assure you you're not). I am only for open boarders (get this) WHEN AMERICA RETURNS TO BEING AMERICA. So that will never come in my lifetime, especially when people (like you) think superficially (like a liberal) and can't realize the end goal.

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ObamasLooseButthole 3 points ago +3 / -0

Your end goal sounds like getting everyone addicted to hard drugs and letting invaders in willfully. You just don’t want to be blamed for it so you want it to happen after you’re dead and gone.

So yes, you are quite retarded.

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jdur 1 point ago +2 / -1

lmao first off, I am legally prescribed meth (adderall), people are prescribed huge amounts of pain pills, so what is your argument? "Letting invaders in willfully" lmao, why are people such bitches? If we are the smartest and most prosperous nation, you are worried about some terrorists? No nation will mess with us for fear of our military retaliation. Yeah, you just are programed to give big gov spy control over your life. Again, superficial argument that is destroyed by going that extra layer.

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ObamasLooseButthole 2 points ago +2 / -0

I am legally prescribed meth (adderall), people are prescribed huge amounts of pain pills, so what is your argument?

Adderall shouldn't be legal either. Pain pill are unfortunately necessary for some cases but are abused very easily. So I don't have an answer for that one unfortunately.

If we are the smartest and most prosperous nation, you are worried about some terrorists?

Not worried at all about terrorists. I'm worried about this country becoming even worse than it is at the moment because we're being invaded by uneducated morons who work for basically nothing. They also tend to vote for the absolute worse shit, form gangs etc. That's my fear.

Yeah, you just are programed to give big gov spy control over your life.

I'm actually for much smaller government. I just think we can achieve that without flooding the streets with degeneracy.

Again, superficial argument that is destroyed by going that extra layer.

Again, you're just a retard who wants to destroy your own nation.

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jdur 1 point ago +1 / -0

Again, these are all fear based arguments. Ah fear, liberties greatest enemy. You don't realize what prosperity brings to a nation. You don't see the clear connection to morals and decency (hell even tax and charity are inverse correlations). You don't believe an individual can take care of themselves. As with the drug argument, you believe you are moral but you fear others won't unless they are guided by a monolithic government. Anyway, good talk. I know sometimes I am harsh with words but you seem smart/reasonable. And it is hard to visualize what I am speaking about moving towards but I think we should all push towards it, bc we will probably end up with compromise to the environment you are referring to.

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ObamasLooseButthole 2 points ago +2 / -0

I feel like I need to make it clear I'm not against all drugs. I smoke pot fairly regularly, drink occasionally etc. But seeing how the harder things have ruined so many lives while it's still illegal I can only assume it would get worse once it's legal. That's pretty much my argument against it. I do believe in less punishment and more rehabilitation for people charged with buying though. The other way around for the dealers.

Yeah, calling you a retard may have been a little harsh but it was in the moment, ya know. Maybe one day we'll see a compromise of both of our views. Who knows, it might work out.

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DrCowboyPresident 5 points ago +5 / -0

Just because people work hard doesn't mean they are on your side.

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jdur -3 points ago +1 / -4

Good point. They may not be on my side. But what do you call someone not working, getting paid while I pay 200k in taxes per year and don't even get a hey thanks. Actually it's more like: your 80hrs a week, multiple engineering degrees are just white privilege. The fact that you risked it all to form/expand your company and were homeless at 27 means nothing.

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TBGJC 1 point ago +1 / -0

Your thought process might have worked in 1959, but in the global economy that's run by The Internet, new jobs won't be created in correlation with revenue increases

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jdur 1 point ago +1 / -0

Uh, where do you think shit will get produced? Do you think technology of the future can be made in a garage with a solder iron? The future requires extremely high education and math/science based learning. We promote kids to get loans for political science degrees. This is why we cannot make college free and should start to remove kids from public schools with tax credits for private schools. We pay dumb people to pop out 5 kids, but they are smart enough to somehow quit after 5. This is the war nobody realizes, we are being attacked based on empathy. Our empathy is only hurting, promoting poverty and dependence.

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TBGJC 1 point ago +1 / -0

I do actually. I think the technology of the future will be even more computer based