It's hard to express ideological revelations in a single post, but I'm going to try my best.
Both my parents were 'religious'. My father cheated on my mother, but after divorced lead a devout life.
My mother claims to be catholic, read me Bible verses, but would bring home random men and tell me that it was better to let seed fall into the belly of a whore, than to the floor. After twenty plus years she still blames my father for her failures.
I joined the Marines, and my father told me that there are no atheists in fox holes. But the only thing I thought of in combat, were the men that were with me, and the men I lost.
I thought humanism and intellectual reasoning would win out in the end. That was false.
2020 has brought a realization to me, that we need religion, whether it's thinking that there is a man in the sky, or the following the core tenets.
Relgions share TONS of common ideals, they're all trying to tell followers how to live better lives.
But without a doubt, judeo Christian values have led to the best results.
The things you are mad about today, did not start happening a year ago. Hell, I watched Dazed and Confused with my wife the other night, and I love the movie. But the movie criticized the founding fathers as not wanting to pay taxes.
That was not the overarching reason, the emphasis on economic reasons being the driving factor is a rail road spike in appreciation for what we stand for. Shake off these shackles, realize that we need Judeo Christian reasoning and thoughtfulness to move forward.
I don't care about the color of your skin, I care about your values, your ideals. I want to know that you America.
No such thing as judeo Christian. Only Christian
Exactly.
If you accept the Gospels, as, well... gospel...
Jesus threw out pretty much all of the judeo stuff.
I understand this thought process, but do you think on a societal level, that you would rather deal with only Christians, or a judeo-christian alliance?
From my understanding, Christians believe all the same things, except that Jesus was the son of Christ?
That then brings in the holy trinity, but isn't that all in the same? I'd rather play ball with people who understand the concept of the game, than those who don't even want to enter the same are a.
Perhaps, but I'm willing to encourage down this path, than neither.
Judaism and Christianity are polar opposites
I wouldn't say opposite, but a fork in the road.
No the exact opposite from one who knows first hand
How so? I'm open for discussion!
Let's just say I had a family member that was one. I know what they teach their children and believe me it has nothing to do with the Torah but everything to do with the Talmud.
I'm open for discussion, whats the difference?
sounds like you've yet to have that waking moment from the holy spirit, the second birth. keep searching, keep reading the word, and direct all your questions to God. it is all very real.
I'm not arrogant enough to deny God, but I find my logical reasoning more than sufficient to lead non-believers back on the path.
I'm more than willing to submit myself to judgement to a be being if I followed the teachings and did not belive they were real.
for sure, you sound like you're 'searching' as they call it, and on the right path, but are still thinking about it all logically. like jordan peterson. how much of the bible have you read?
I've read it in whole when I was younger, and I know with out a doubt since then, that a majority of my reasoning comes from it!
amen, we were made in the image of God after all.
I'm an Atheist, but I accept that it isn't for everyone and some people need God. It's about meaning. You've got to have it, we're designed to search it out and if we don't get it we die. Mostly by our own hands.
I will never try and talk someone out of their faith--unless they berate me about it.
No doubt, I was atheist, but then I realized that I'm not arrogant enough to assert that there isn't something out there.
How do you contend with all the similarities between religions across the one before conlization?
To me, we're all trying to tell the same story, but judeo-christian bring the most reasoning.
I would argue that religions everywhere are actually for the most part fundamentally different. It's really only the Judeo-Christian types that are similar and...well, that's what you'd expect. Similar to how Buddhism Hinduism and Jainism are all very similar to one another, but all three are very much unlike Christianity or Islam.
I would have to technically identify as Agnostic, I suppose.
I would feign ignorance to eastern religions other than ascending to higher levels of life forms.
However, Sumarian, Greek, Egyptian, Roman, Norse they all teach the same things, but fractured. Christianity brings them together.
Kind of. Polytheism such as the Romans, Greeks, and Norse practiced was very different than Christianity/Judaism/Islam. It's probably the case Christianity was influenced by and incorporates Paganism into itself rather than vice versa (Easter is a Pagan concept and we're pretty sure Christmas falls around the date it does because Emperor Augustus decided it should).
Well, I don't really take much from Eastern Religions apart from Buddhism, which is really just a revised version of Hinduism. I suppose the fundamental difference between this and Christianity/Islam is that it takes a punt on the big cosmological question of how things came into being. The Buddhists just say 'we don't know. All we know is that you'll have to live this life regardless of how that happened or not'.
I think everyone should read the Dhammapada at least once in their lives, and I'd say the same of the Bible. Give this a brief listen. Five minutes. You'll definitely find a lot of wisdom in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD6TCxizFjs
I’m not very religious but I believe in right and wrong, that something is watching over the shit you do in life (karma/god/who knows), and to treat others as I would want to be treated. Oh and reason and logic and being able to evaluate data is quite important.
Alright Alright Alright. I now am reminded of how much I like that movie and need to watch ASAP.