reminder that this "polls" are run by the same people that said biden would win every state, and that 85% of americans approved biden's SOTU, they're all rigged and if you still believe them then you're the problem. in reality most likely +60% don't wanna take it, and that's why it's a problem for them.
If idiots want to inject themselves with experimental goo, far be it from me to stop them. My beef is the idea of mandatory vax or giving this nonsense anti covid poison to children who don't even contract the virus anyway.
That means the majority are used to getting shots and didn't think twice about it. The vaccine gauntlet is a legit thing that happens. Marines line up. State name. Get shot in the arm. Move up. Next shot. Next shot. Congrats you're ready for deployment.
What will be really interesting is the disparity between those that took the first shot and refused the second.
Because in the military everything is everything is mandatory, so most soldiers just comply.
Example: In Army they ask soldiers to give money to certain “charitable” funds. It’s completely voluntary but 100% mandatory. If you don’t give, you’re a harassed until you do.
In the AF it was the CFC or combined federal campaign. Commanders basically force some ,"volunteer" to speak to every person in the until to hassle people donations.
If not that fund, out was the AF Aid society. They helped people who were either stupid with their money or, in some cases of genuine tragedy occurred they were helpful. This was the only one I ever donated to.
Probably not. I was never harassed about donating either, nor did I ever give money. I was even the alternate for CFC one year for my unit, and all we did was email out distros that if anyone wanted to donate, to find either myself or the other guy. Never spoke to anyone in person about it.
The majority are young kids too I'd guess. I'm a Marine. Active 03'-07' I remember exactly what you're talking about. It wasn't enjoyable they jabbed so fast my arm was dripping blood. Back then it was the anthrax vaccine that they gave you the option on....
Pre-deployment jabs fucking sucked. Spent most of my time in shitholes (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq) from December '01-March '03. It's kinda hard to want to associate myself with what the Corps is turning into now, though.
The penicillin one sucked cause we got that the day before initial drill in boot camp (hard to be on the top of your drill game for the Senior DI when your ass feels like it took a gunshot). Smallpox was only annoying to have to manage not getting it wet while it scabbed and healed. You know you didn’t want to be one those guys that got more pokes or it infects your arm cause you let it jump/fester.
‘02-‘11. The 40% seems low but about right when you factor the generation leading the Lance Corporal underground. When I was getting out far too many E-3s bitching about cutting scores and not having Cpl by 2yr TIS (my response was always an easy one... my mos was N/A for 26 months, I picked up with a score over 2100). Also waaaaay tooo many bitching about having to field day and shit. One I remember to this very day stayed in and became at least a Gunny I think. Man that kid was such a bitch pos. I was glad to be leaving.
I saw a lot of changes from ‘02 to ‘11, some I liked, most I didn’t.
Yep. There is ZERO acknowledgment or education on any downside associated with mass vaccination and all research into long term true effects of any vaccine or of multiple vaccines injected simultaneously is actively suppressed and those conducting it are attacked, de-platformed and have their licenses revoked. Any study that accidently shows a negative associated with vaccination is immediately discredited in any and all ways possible. It's not science, it's not scientific, it's blatant propaganda and control.
There is major pressure inside the service to get the shots. Officers are being told if they don't get it, basically their career is over. It's a very hard choice, especially if you love the service or have family.
Almost all hardened combat veterans have been forced out by one way or another. All that remains are the junior enlisted tik tok generation and Obama’s appointed communist generals who push diversity hires, women in the infantry, and maternity uniforms over combat effectiveness. The marine corps is all but dead
So it's worse than Trumpers let off. Not only do Dems control every single government branch, alphabet departments, media, social structures like schools, and now the majority of the military.
Maybe a passive aggressive Boebert tweet and a picture of her with her gun will fix this. Ignore the fact that most Republicans like Boebert stood aside for it.
The spike protein was a common mutation tactic from inserting viruses into ferrets. That is how China altered this virus to attack humans with much greater efficiency...
I have read this virus was actually formed many years back by the Red Army.
Ferrets and Humans share the same ACE2 receptor on their cells... Soviets were doing this in the 1970 and 1980's...
My agency is having us use a special medical leave code to take off work to receive the vaccine. My boss even mentioned it was for tracking purposes, but then said "but if you got it on the weekend, don't worry about it."
Alex Jones has said it more like 90% and the callers who have been involved with this confirmed it much higher. The media is lying yet again. Politico is shit information.
This is a similar story about the anthrax vaccine and military personnel refusing to take the shot. Although even the anthrax vaccine had a longer track record than this experimental covid shit they are trying to push on everybody.
The sailor got an "other than honorable" discharge.
There are a lot of other similar stories to this one that you can google, some got dishonorable discharges also. I think it was sort of on a case-by-case basis, but I think the anthrax vaccine story sort of parallels the covid shot story.
Now, if Biden isn't a vindictive prick he might allow military people who don't want the jab to go this route, but he could very well go the "dishonorable discharge" route also. Someone has to be the test case to see how it turns out.
In either case, if I was in the military, I'd take a dishonorable discharge to avoid the vax, but still try for an other than honorable discharge.
There is also a process to upgrade dishonorable discharges once you're out of the military, but I don't know much about it as I've never used the process.
Although, I'd imagine when people start dropping dead from vax side effects down the road, or become infertile, you'd have a strong case for a discharge upgrade.
The last time troops had to take experimental drugs there were countless healthy studs turned into physical and mental wrecks. It was called Gulf War Syndrome, and when trying to get disability the government said they were malingers looking for a handout. Lots of them committed suicide out of despair and pain.
At least we know why there was no military uprising to prevent the tyrant Pedo Biden from usurping command, only 40% of the army is on the side of the people, the rest are cuckold fags who suck the dick of the Deep State.
The Army isn’t the focal point, the Marines are. Misnomers aside, the military is a reflection of the society that produces it, nothing about it should surprise anyone. Good or bad.
Not only that, it's foolish to expect them to disobey orders on their own and act, not only with no leadership, but against the words of the leader who publicly cucked. Their inaction is on Trump.
So, they cant make it mandatory unless the vaccines receive 'Full' regulatory approval ?
Dont hold your breath waiting for that to happen, as it would require somebodies names at the bottom of the page. Folk who would find themselves Fully accountable if the as yet not fully tested vaccines turn out to be damaging duds.
Any move from carrot to stick with regard to the vaccines will be a tacit admission that sizeable numbers, probably way higher than they are admitting to, dont have faith in them. And in the unlikely event the stick ever does come out, there'll be a bigger set of problems for the G than the virus ever caused.
They can't force you, but they can make your life pretty shitty in the name of force protection. Restricted access to the chow hall and gym, restrictions on leave and libo, required isolation periods before and after schools, training, and deployments, peer pressure from peers and superiors, guilt trips about setting a bad example, or endangering others, accusations of being unpatriotic, a conspiracy theorist, an idiot, or a pussy.
If they make it mandatory, we'll be able to be discharged for refusal, but as long as the EAU continues, it's just a weird state of purgatory.
Ahh reminds me of when my gunny kept giving me shit for refusing the experimental anthrax vaccine predeployment. “You get that anthrax devil dog don’t be looken to me for help, this was your chance” 😂😂😂 nah gunny I’m good, I’ll take my chances.
Proceed to be deployed 2 miles from a massive burnpit :l
Big deal! You secretly give them Acid & other drugs in the sixties, do illegal experiments on them, gas them with Agent Orange, etc. That's their job, to be shit on & die for Jewish Oil companies.
Many people who join the military come from places where unemployment for good jobs is high.
If you're from California, Arizona, New York, Texas, Florida, or the East Coast, it makes no sense to join the military. If you're from West Virginia or Mississippi it makes perfect sense so you at least have a job.
To most, it's just another shot, and not worth a trip to the 1st Sgt's office. Remember that MSM is the only way that many people get their news, and most young Marines don't even bother watching that.
It's not easy to go against the grain, especially in the Corps. 40% choosing not to do it (58% at Lejeune) is outstanding.
When you're in the military, you're government property. I won't be surprised when the Commander-in-Thief implements mandatory participation in history's largest medical experiment. I won't be surprised at all.
Just another way to replace the good ones with the evil ones. Stalin's purge, but instead of taking your life they take your livelihood.
the jab wont hurt you unless it gives you a blood clot or some rare disease onsets. or just drop dead. Miost of the shot is fake with just immune boosters in it anyways. I had a jab and could taste the chemicals in my skin. its nothing but a booster mixed with rna
We're just waiting for a brave warrior like you to lead the resistance. You'd probably punch a DI in the face and get ADSEP'd before you ever hit the fleet, right?
Yes 40% don't take the vaccine, but that means 60% do take the vaccine, so it's not a successful appeal to authority. And that number is from a month ago. What is the current percentage of Marines who've been vaccinated?
I'm not saying "inject the experiment, bigot", as I'm still holding out myself.
Well the brass certainly assessed the risk to their careers, and the troops assessed the risk of painting targets on their backs, but somehow I doubt that that was the point you were trying to make.
Unless they have some mission critical posts, being sick for a few days and spreading it to your young healthy peers who probably won't be symptomatic isn't that important. 60% vaccinated rate is good enough. No need to push anyone who doesn't want it.
That means the majority are fucking idiots
They do eat crayons.
Can confirm. The purple ones are grape.
What do the other colors taste like?
Your Mom, interestingly enough. Rah?
Yutch!
Eeyut!
Heeootch
Your mom is doing waxing wrong then.
Dad?
The green ones make me horny
reminder that this "polls" are run by the same people that said biden would win every state, and that 85% of americans approved biden's SOTU, they're all rigged and if you still believe them then you're the problem. in reality most likely +60% don't wanna take it, and that's why it's a problem for them.
I agree. It could be more like 95% refused the shot.
Last I heard it was 30% of the US is vaccinated
Joe claims 220 million. Factor in the likely 100 million that got it and recovered and agai st the 330-340 million population we're done.
More killing power eh..
Indeed. There was a day when they would have been lucky to get 10% compliance. Now over half sign up for this stupid shit voluntarily.
Trump is partially to blame.
He promoted the vaccines, and urged people to take them. He's said it should always be optional, but still, many on our side trust his word.
If idiots want to inject themselves with experimental goo, far be it from me to stop them. My beef is the idea of mandatory vax or giving this nonsense anti covid poison to children who don't even contract the virus anyway.
I honestly don't think this "vaccine" is a deadly conspiracy or even that dangerous
But the precedent it sets if they make it "mandatory" is extremely dangerous
So im not fucking taking it. Line in the sand.
That means the majority are used to getting shots and didn't think twice about it. The vaccine gauntlet is a legit thing that happens. Marines line up. State name. Get shot in the arm. Move up. Next shot. Next shot. Congrats you're ready for deployment.
What will be really interesting is the disparity between those that took the first shot and refused the second.
Because in the military everything is everything is mandatory, so most soldiers just comply.
Example: In Army they ask soldiers to give money to certain “charitable” funds. It’s completely voluntary but 100% mandatory. If you don’t give, you’re a harassed until you do.
In the AF it was the CFC or combined federal campaign. Commanders basically force some ,"volunteer" to speak to every person in the until to hassle people donations.
If not that fund, out was the AF Aid society. They helped people who were either stupid with their money or, in some cases of genuine tragedy occurred they were helpful. This was the only one I ever donated to.
hahaha I wasnt harassed. I never gave money.
You’re lying.
Probably not. I was never harassed about donating either, nor did I ever give money. I was even the alternate for CFC one year for my unit, and all we did was email out distros that if anyone wanted to donate, to find either myself or the other guy. Never spoke to anyone in person about it.
The majority are young kids too I'd guess. I'm a Marine. Active 03'-07' I remember exactly what you're talking about. It wasn't enjoyable they jabbed so fast my arm was dripping blood. Back then it was the anthrax vaccine that they gave you the option on....
Pre-deployment jabs fucking sucked. Spent most of my time in shitholes (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq) from December '01-March '03. It's kinda hard to want to associate myself with what the Corps is turning into now, though.
Smallpox was the fucking worst 2nd was that peanut butter one.... my ass aches thinking about it....
The penicillin one sucked cause we got that the day before initial drill in boot camp (hard to be on the top of your drill game for the Senior DI when your ass feels like it took a gunshot). Smallpox was only annoying to have to manage not getting it wet while it scabbed and healed. You know you didn’t want to be one those guys that got more pokes or it infects your arm cause you let it jump/fester.
‘02-‘11. The 40% seems low but about right when you factor the generation leading the Lance Corporal underground. When I was getting out far too many E-3s bitching about cutting scores and not having Cpl by 2yr TIS (my response was always an easy one... my mos was N/A for 26 months, I picked up with a score over 2100). Also waaaaay tooo many bitching about having to field day and shit. One I remember to this very day stayed in and became at least a Gunny I think. Man that kid was such a bitch pos. I was glad to be leaving.
I saw a lot of changes from ‘02 to ‘11, some I liked, most I didn’t.
Lol and then running your IST the next day with one ass cheek cramped up
Ahhh Penicillin.
Just think: we are the new "elite".
The rest of humanity is fucking retarded, including many ON our side.
I'm the best!
How it is Air Force get in a line and it’s like a conveyer belt of shots
Yep. There is ZERO acknowledgment or education on any downside associated with mass vaccination and all research into long term true effects of any vaccine or of multiple vaccines injected simultaneously is actively suppressed and those conducting it are attacked, de-platformed and have their licenses revoked. Any study that accidently shows a negative associated with vaccination is immediately discredited in any and all ways possible. It's not science, it's not scientific, it's blatant propaganda and control.
There is major pressure inside the service to get the shots. Officers are being told if they don't get it, basically their career is over. It's a very hard choice, especially if you love the service or have family.
Major pressure in their brain veins is what they risk by taking it. At least.
How to win a war without firing a shot... oh wait lol.
In the gulf war troops were forced a vaccine shot and got permanently sick.
Google gulf war syndrome
It being a service that's now run by the deep state probably makes it easier to decline out.
well, it is the Marines. i would bet a much higher percentage are declining the jab in the Army and Air Force.
nah air force full of cucks im pretty sure and the army is half black (alright not half but felt like it when i was in)
my man, blacks are really against this fake vaxx! also, the army is nowhere near 50% black. i would guess around 20% or so.
The USMC is going to reduce their forces dramatically in the next few years, this will probably be a good excuse to do so.
Almost all hardened combat veterans have been forced out by one way or another. All that remains are the junior enlisted tik tok generation and Obama’s appointed communist generals who push diversity hires, women in the infantry, and maternity uniforms over combat effectiveness. The marine corps is all but dead
So it's worse than Trumpers let off. Not only do Dems control every single government branch, alphabet departments, media, social structures like schools, and now the majority of the military.
Maybe a passive aggressive Boebert tweet and a picture of her with her gun will fix this. Ignore the fact that most Republicans like Boebert stood aside for it.
I'm fine if the military is full of soy-boy faggots. It'll make things all that much easier when they're ordered to turn and fire upon Americans.
They'll be combat ineffective as soon as they start taking return fire. Balled up and small in their holes/cover.
yet, somehow all the doomers here are scared of mUh MiLiTaRy when 1776 part deux kicks off.
A poorly-trained, undisciplined, and well-equipped opposing force is effectively indistinguishable from an allied logistics unit.
Yeah I've had some laughable conversations with the doomers.
The Army even had to acknowledge that "gun nut" civilians shoot better than they do.
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/top-army-marksman-explains-why-gun-nuts-shoot-better-469f8dfd917f
That's not even touching on what the rifle accessories that we have access to vs the military.
Should do an antibody check first... to see if you already had the virus... 50% of people who catch it -DON"T EVEN KNOW THEY HAD IT.
But they want as many people as possible to produce the spike protein they took from HIV... Idk sounds totally not fishy!
The spike protein was a common mutation tactic from inserting viruses into ferrets. That is how China altered this virus to attack humans with much greater efficiency...
I have read this virus was actually formed many years back by the Red Army.
Ferrets and Humans share the same ACE2 receptor on their cells... Soviets were doing this in the 1970 and 1980's...
The SPIKE protein doesn't come from HIV. Probably one of the top 10 dumbest comments.
Politico is even more 'PRVADA' than the NYTs...
Virtually EVERYTHING IN POLITICO is manipulation and Propaganda.. even if it speaks truth...
Its more than 40 percent, closer to 70.
The 30 percent are just smart enough to lie about it.
I don't get what you're saying here. Elaborate?
Some are not vocally saying they won't take the vaccine, they are keeping that info close to their chest as along as they can.
They are the smart people.
My agency is having us use a special medical leave code to take off work to receive the vaccine. My boss even mentioned it was for tracking purposes, but then said "but if you got it on the weekend, don't worry about it."
I do the same thing. Someone the other day asked me if I've had my second China flu jab, I said nope. It's such a weird thing right now.
Its closer to 85% not 40. Ask any marine about the jab. They will tell yOU AHH HELL NO!!!
Alex Jones has said it more like 90% and the callers who have been involved with this confirmed it much higher. The media is lying yet again. Politico is shit information.
I hope he makes the experimental jab mandatory for the military.
It would provide an easy way for conservatives to get out of the military without getting a dishonorable discharge.
If you don't mind me asking, how so? What would their consequences be for refusI'm to take it?
This is a similar story about the anthrax vaccine and military personnel refusing to take the shot. Although even the anthrax vaccine had a longer track record than this experimental covid shit they are trying to push on everybody.
The sailor got an "other than honorable" discharge.
https://products.kitsapsun.com/archive/1998/12-27/0023_everett__sailor_discharged_from_n.html
There are a lot of other similar stories to this one that you can google, some got dishonorable discharges also. I think it was sort of on a case-by-case basis, but I think the anthrax vaccine story sort of parallels the covid shot story.
Now, if Biden isn't a vindictive prick he might allow military people who don't want the jab to go this route, but he could very well go the "dishonorable discharge" route also. Someone has to be the test case to see how it turns out.
In either case, if I was in the military, I'd take a dishonorable discharge to avoid the vax, but still try for an other than honorable discharge.
There is also a process to upgrade dishonorable discharges once you're out of the military, but I don't know much about it as I've never used the process.
Although, I'd imagine when people start dropping dead from vax side effects down the road, or become infertile, you'd have a strong case for a discharge upgrade.
Thanks! That was very informative.
The easiest legal route would probably be requesting a medical discharge.
Any smart lawyer would tell them to just offer a discharge option to avoid lawsuits if they made it mandatory.
The last time troops had to take experimental drugs there were countless healthy studs turned into physical and mental wrecks. It was called Gulf War Syndrome, and when trying to get disability the government said they were malingers looking for a handout. Lots of them committed suicide out of despair and pain.
Pyridostigmine Bromide, to save people time searching for it.
Thanks man
At least we know why there was no military uprising to prevent the tyrant Pedo Biden from usurping command, only 40% of the army is on the side of the people, the rest are cuckold fags who suck the dick of the Deep State.
The Army isn’t the focal point, the Marines are. Misnomers aside, the military is a reflection of the society that produces it, nothing about it should surprise anyone. Good or bad.
Not only that, it's foolish to expect them to disobey orders on their own and act, not only with no leadership, but against the words of the leader who publicly cucked. Their inaction is on Trump.
So, they cant make it mandatory unless the vaccines receive 'Full' regulatory approval ?
Dont hold your breath waiting for that to happen, as it would require somebodies names at the bottom of the page. Folk who would find themselves Fully accountable if the as yet not fully tested vaccines turn out to be damaging duds.
Any move from carrot to stick with regard to the vaccines will be a tacit admission that sizeable numbers, probably way higher than they are admitting to, dont have faith in them. And in the unlikely event the stick ever does come out, there'll be a bigger set of problems for the G than the virus ever caused.
Are flu shots mandated every year for military ?
Ya it is. I have to either turn in my receipts from the CVS I go to, or get the shot straight from the corpsman
When you join the military are your constitutional rights suspended? If not, how can they force this on you?
They can't force you, but they can make your life pretty shitty in the name of force protection. Restricted access to the chow hall and gym, restrictions on leave and libo, required isolation periods before and after schools, training, and deployments, peer pressure from peers and superiors, guilt trips about setting a bad example, or endangering others, accusations of being unpatriotic, a conspiracy theorist, an idiot, or a pussy.
If they make it mandatory, we'll be able to be discharged for refusal, but as long as the EAU continues, it's just a weird state of purgatory.
Yes, they are suspended.
No they aren't faggot.
https://www.flexyourrights.org/faqs/does-the-constitution-apply-to-rights-of-military-members/
READ ON COP TRICKS. COPS ARE FUCKING LYING ASSHOLES WHO ESSENTIALLY CAN LEGALLY LIE AND YOU CANNOT TO THE GOVERNMENT. KYS.
Ahh reminds me of when my gunny kept giving me shit for refusing the experimental anthrax vaccine predeployment. “You get that anthrax devil dog don’t be looken to me for help, this was your chance” 😂😂😂 nah gunny I’m good, I’ll take my chances. Proceed to be deployed 2 miles from a massive burnpit :l
In the gulf war troops were forced a vaccine shot and got permanently sick. Google gulf war syndrome
Big deal! You secretly give them Acid & other drugs in the sixties, do illegal experiments on them, gas them with Agent Orange, etc. That's their job, to be shit on & die for Jewish Oil companies.
I bet it's a lot more than that.
yep. probably more like 60% or higher.
Many people who join the military come from places where unemployment for good jobs is high.
If you're from California, Arizona, New York, Texas, Florida, or the East Coast, it makes no sense to join the military. If you're from West Virginia or Mississippi it makes perfect sense so you at least have a job.
That's roughly two thirds too many. What if the enemy strikes with a part B virus and it takes down our troops. Wouldn't uncle joe be very pleased
Meanwhile the military has had a much, much lower death to COVID infection ratio.
40% is rookie numbers marines! gotta get those numbers up!!
Those people go to a fucking warzone. Think they are scared of a virus with >99,9% recovery rate?
Apparently 60% of them are.
To most, it's just another shot, and not worth a trip to the 1st Sgt's office. Remember that MSM is the only way that many people get their news, and most young Marines don't even bother watching that.
It's not easy to go against the grain, especially in the Corps. 40% choosing not to do it (58% at Lejeune) is outstanding.
Make a vaccine for bullets and I’m sure it will be popular.
When you're in the military, you're government property. I won't be surprised when the Commander-in-Thief implements mandatory participation in history's largest medical experiment. I won't be surprised at all.
Just another way to replace the good ones with the evil ones. Stalin's purge, but instead of taking your life they take your livelihood.
It’s all for the vaccine producers to make money, and politicians like to gain more power- fascism is great for everyone except the proles
It's hard to overstate how far your head has to be up your ass to willingly get one of these injections.
If you know one of these people, get as far away from them as you possibly can.
These are the people who will be taking away your kids and pinning you to a medical table during the next scamdemic.
hey agent orange was safe right? hey where ya goin dont walk off
the jab wont hurt you unless it gives you a blood clot or some rare disease onsets. or just drop dead. Miost of the shot is fake with just immune boosters in it anyways. I had a jab and could taste the chemicals in my skin. its nothing but a booster mixed with rna
60% are tards
So glad I got the fuck out. Biden is definitely going to make it mandatory.
anyone remember how back in the 90’s and early 2000’s the army was making troops take booster shots that had anthrax in them???
90's and 2000's? I had an antrax series 8 months ago.
Marines are great aren't they ?
I'm surprised 60% took it....
That’s really low.
It’s higher
Fuck the military. I hope they all get it and die.
They are choosing to serve a tyrant.
And they will all happily follow orders to come after you and your family.
We're just waiting for a brave warrior like you to lead the resistance. You'd probably punch a DI in the face and get ADSEP'd before you ever hit the fleet, right?
Yes 40% don't take the vaccine, but that means 60% do take the vaccine, so it's not a successful appeal to authority. And that number is from a month ago. What is the current percentage of Marines who've been vaccinated?
I'm not saying "inject the experiment, bigot", as I'm still holding out myself.
Only 40%?
So 60% of marines are plantation sheep/lab rats?
imagine that, a group of people trained to assess risk have assessed their risk.
Well the brass certainly assessed the risk to their careers, and the troops assessed the risk of painting targets on their backs, but somehow I doubt that that was the point you were trying to make.
Unless they have some mission critical posts, being sick for a few days and spreading it to your young healthy peers who probably won't be symptomatic isn't that important. 60% vaccinated rate is good enough. No need to push anyone who doesn't want it.