Gasoline is a mixture of petro-chemicals, not an actual thing of it's own. That mixture will deteriorate without a stabilizer additive even without ethanol added. Ethanol is another problem. It attracts water and can destroy seals in fuel systems. It also lowers octane.
Sta-Bil works fine, but Pri-G might be better and treats more gas for less money. Pri-G claims to have a tank they've been treating and using for 14 years.
Store ethanol free fuel in metal containers for the longest life.
All the plastic ones are permeable. They let volatile compounds out and moisture in. I've had good luck with expensive plastic containers like No-Spill. I've only used their smaller ones, though.
I should remember that most people wouldn't have ever seen a metal gas can in their lives. When I was younger, you could almost always find them at estate sales and surplus stores.
I've had phone calls from gasoline hauling companies as far away as Pennsylvania (about 600 miles from me) asking if I wanted a job. I don't even pull a fuel tanker, but I do have the endorsement 🤷🏼♂️
"The answer to the title question, however, is that President Obama oversaw the highest average annual gasoline prices. President Bush oversaw the lowest. "
There's even a pretty graph that shows you they were higher during Obama's years:
AAA is retarded because the windows thing was proven objectively to be worse than running AC unless your car is from the 70s or earlier. When the AC was actually a gas hog then and aerodynamics were a non consideration.
I did some research on this a few years ago (long story short: my ex-wife’s father was a douchebag who made anyone who made the mistake of riding in his vehicle suffer because he was an ignorant cheapskate).
On most vehicles currently on the road there is a cutoff speed where the fuel saved from not running the AC compressor is completely negated by the extra drag from the windows down. Obviously it varies by vehicle, but the average was something like 35mph - it wasn’t very fast. Anything faster than this threshold and you actually use less gas with the windows up and the AC on than with the windows down and the AC off.
The globohomos want us hot, sweaty and miserable. Fuck AAA
Yknow they say aerodynamics were a non consideration back then but my 67 Mustang is a 1000x more aerodynamic than the brick on wheels that is my Jeep XJ.
Came here to say this. Myth busters compared two cars' fuel economy years ago; one with the windows down and AC off, one with the windows up and AC on. The aerodynamic drag is much much worse than keeping an AC compressor spinning. The contest wasn't even close
But... trust the science!!! AAA has mo reason to lie. You're just a conspiracy theorist with your talk of "drag". In fact, that's transphobic, I am getting you banned off of Facewitter!!!!
I know that myth busters experiment. They did quite well, but it's hard to compare an open window vs. an AC. In any way, the AC won't do better. AC systems are better engineered than windows are engineered for cooling performance while minimizing drag.
Not sure what you're driving but if you average 20mpg highway and 87 runs ~$2.90/gal, you're looking at 100 gallons or $290. If gas goes up another $0.50 it's $340, which is still cheaper than flying and you don't have to deal with mask nazis.
You can also be a hypermiling dickweed and do the Jimmy Carter double-nickel speed limit, but then you'd be a hypermiling dickweed.
That's difficult to understand, unless there are some shenanigans in the engine controller, or something super-optimized that falls to pieces at 55. Or, headwinds and taliwinds threw something off in the measurement.
Aerodynamic drag goes up with the square of speed. A mere 20 mph wind could flip the measurements, headwind at 55, tailwind at 72, could give quite counterintuitive results.
I guessed $290 and you said around $300 so Price is Right rules means I win. ;)
Yeah, we've done the 17+ hour drive before but it's not worth it anymore. Lived in NH for a bit and get back occasionally, it's a beautiful state but you have family there so you already know that. lol. Have a good, safe trip and enjoyable visit Pede! :)
Buy your fuel for the trip now. Use fuel stabilizer so it will still be good when you're ready to leave. Rent a U-Haul trailer to carry the extra fuel. Make sure you have enough ammo too... ;-)
well I would suggest parking in shade if you have a nick or crack in your windshield you haven't been able to get to the glass shop to fix...found that out the hard way a couple years ago. has a small nick from a rock that never did anything for over a year then started to look a little longer on one side, parked in indirect sunlight and went for a hike. came back 2 hrs later and had a crack halfway across the windshield from the heat.
New windshield glass is cheap crap. Just had a 21 year old windshield replaced with one from the glass factory in documentary American Factory. The new glass was less rigid than the broken windshield.
AAA is unaware of how aerodynamics work apparently.
Also there isn't a shortage, and won't be. The "shortage" is people not going to want to buy gasoline at 7 dollars a gallon. The shortage is in the demand, not the supply.
There won't be any gas shortage. Gas just broke $3 a gallon here. There will be plenty of gas no one can afford ( until we get our next free money check from JoXiden )
TBH, this looks like the same stuff the AAA has been putting out since I was a kid (and that's been a loooooonnnngg time). It's basically AAA trying to look like they actually matter anymore. They also offer such great points as "gas prices expected to rise for summer travel". They would put out the same crap if gas was $1 a gallon.
AAA can go fuck themselves, my membership is due and this is all the BS I need to see to convince me to save my $100 this year. They don't mention the biggest point, if you don't drive as much AAA doesn't stand to lose as much money on their benefits like emergency roadside service and free trip planning.
My friend sent me a screenshot from her local Fakebook page for the town she lives in last weekend. At least 2 gas stations were out of gas. This was in the metro area of KC.
You mean, they are planning a fuel shortage?
Exactly. Whatever “fuel shortage” there is is 1000% planned by Biden’s handlers.
Time to stockpile fuel Pedes. Buy stabilizer now before there is a shortage of that too. Gasoline deteriorates without it.
I believe ethanol free fuel lasts longer. It isn't easy to find and you'll pay a premium for it though.
Here in Texas some of the bucees stations have ethanol free gas.
Gasoline is a mixture of petro-chemicals, not an actual thing of it's own. That mixture will deteriorate without a stabilizer additive even without ethanol added. Ethanol is another problem. It attracts water and can destroy seals in fuel systems. It also lowers octane.
ethanol does not lower the octane rating of fuel, it raises it, e-85 is about 105 octane
I thought it was the other way. My bad. Thanks for the correction.
Its no big, that's one of the reasons people run e85 for performance stuff though, lol
Ethanol has lower energy or btu vs gasoline though. So you get less power from it, aka lower miles per gallon.
Sta-Bil works fine, but Pri-G might be better and treats more gas for less money. Pri-G claims to have a tank they've been treating and using for 14 years.
Store ethanol free fuel in metal containers for the longest life.
In METAL Containers?
Jerry cans.
All the plastic ones are permeable. They let volatile compounds out and moisture in. I've had good luck with expensive plastic containers like No-Spill. I've only used their smaller ones, though.
Ah OK. I thought you were suggesting people use shit like Metal Milk Containers to Store Gas and was about to intervene, lmao.
I should remember that most people wouldn't have ever seen a metal gas can in their lives. When I was younger, you could almost always find them at estate sales and surplus stores.
Biden's handlers are communist "yids" who's mission is to enslave the planet, and genocide Europeans.
Almost like it's been happening since 1914 . . . . . . (())
Driver shortage for gas tanker trucks.
A lot of drivers decided to take early retirement after lockdown.
The most credentials are required to be fuel driver.
I've had phone calls from gasoline hauling companies as far away as Pennsylvania (about 600 miles from me) asking if I wanted a job. I don't even pull a fuel tanker, but I do have the endorsement 🤷🏼♂️
How much pay they offering?
I didn't call them back. Voicemail
Next up: FOOD SHORTAGE
Oh, and lookie here, Bill Gates is the only one with access to the required resources...
Oh boy, this takes me back a bit.....to the Obama years and $5/gal. 😒
That was Bush in 2007.
Pam Beesly “They’re the same picture”
Fail:
"The answer to the title question, however, is that President Obama oversaw the highest average annual gasoline prices. President Bush oversaw the lowest. "
There's even a pretty graph that shows you they were higher during Obama's years:
https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/605f542afae6af677c40f338/960x0.jpg?fit=scale
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2021/03/27/which-president-oversaw-the-highest-gasoline-prices/?sh=2979429e1d28
Ahh, those are average prices.
Gas was 4.50/gallon where I lived for awhile under Bush.
And why are you trying to defend Bush? He's just as big of a piece of shit as Obama.
Gas was $5.00 here under Bush. He and Obummer are globohomos.
Depends on where you lived, downtown Chicago was over $5/gal under Saint O.
Zero defense of Bush, he's a globalist asshole, but since potatus' term is "Obama's 3rd term," I think we need to give credit where credit is due.
TBH, I was tuned out during Zero's term. Gas was probably as high as 3.50.
As early as 2003
AAA is retarded because the windows thing was proven objectively to be worse than running AC unless your car is from the 70s or earlier. When the AC was actually a gas hog then and aerodynamics were a non consideration.
That’s what I thought. Dumb asses.
I did some research on this a few years ago (long story short: my ex-wife’s father was a douchebag who made anyone who made the mistake of riding in his vehicle suffer because he was an ignorant cheapskate).
On most vehicles currently on the road there is a cutoff speed where the fuel saved from not running the AC compressor is completely negated by the extra drag from the windows down. Obviously it varies by vehicle, but the average was something like 35mph - it wasn’t very fast. Anything faster than this threshold and you actually use less gas with the windows up and the AC on than with the windows down and the AC off.
The globohomos want us hot, sweaty and miserable. Fuck AAA
Yknow they say aerodynamics were a non consideration back then but my 67 Mustang is a 1000x more aerodynamic than the brick on wheels that is my Jeep XJ.
oh no here comes "let's go green by skyrocket gas prices"
I think they're wrong about air conditioning using more fuel than open windows, especially at highway speeds.
Yes. Open windows create a lot of drag. Their cooling performance isn't that great either.
Came here to say this. Myth busters compared two cars' fuel economy years ago; one with the windows down and AC off, one with the windows up and AC on. The aerodynamic drag is much much worse than keeping an AC compressor spinning. The contest wasn't even close
But... trust the science!!! AAA has mo reason to lie. You're just a conspiracy theorist with your talk of "drag". In fact, that's transphobic, I am getting you banned off of Facewitter!!!!
🤡🤡🤡
Former automotive climate control engineer here. Can confirm.
I know that myth busters experiment. They did quite well, but it's hard to compare an open window vs. an AC. In any way, the AC won't do better. AC systems are better engineered than windows are engineered for cooling performance while minimizing drag.
Just fucking great, after we booked a house 1000 miles away that we plan to drive to in June.
Not sure what you're driving but if you average 20mpg highway and 87 runs ~$2.90/gal, you're looking at 100 gallons or $290. If gas goes up another $0.50 it's $340, which is still cheaper than flying and you don't have to deal with mask nazis.
You can also be a hypermiling dickweed and do the Jimmy Carter double-nickel speed limit, but then you'd be a hypermiling dickweed.
We cruise around 75-80 mph most of the time. For curiosity, I slowed to 55 for a minute or so on some open road. It felt like absolutely CRAWLING!
My charger gets better milage at 72 than 55.
That's difficult to understand, unless there are some shenanigans in the engine controller, or something super-optimized that falls to pieces at 55. Or, headwinds and taliwinds threw something off in the measurement.
Aerodynamic drag goes up with the square of speed. A mere 20 mph wind could flip the measurements, headwind at 55, tailwind at 72, could give quite counterintuitive results.
7th vs 8th gear. At 55 to 65 the car hunts around for what gear it wants to stay in (7 to 8). Above about 70 it'll stay in 8th.
Ah. That would feel pretty annoying too, I'm sure!
I guessed $290 and you said around $300 so Price is Right rules means I win. ;)
Yeah, we've done the 17+ hour drive before but it's not worth it anymore. Lived in NH for a bit and get back occasionally, it's a beautiful state but you have family there so you already know that. lol. Have a good, safe trip and enjoyable visit Pede! :)
Store up now on some gallons! I don’t know how many it takes to go 1000 miles, though.
About 60 gallons. Fuel goes bad after a while, though
Sta-Bil and Pri-G help preserve it. Ethanol free in steel containers will last the longest.
Buy your fuel for the trip now. Use fuel stabilizer so it will still be good when you're ready to leave. Rent a U-Haul trailer to carry the extra fuel. Make sure you have enough ammo too... ;-)
I see the old ways for OPEC countries to make money are back.
Thats what you get for harming the domestic sector.
Working as designed!
We are gonna have massive shortages of supplies.
Thanks OBiden!
After no driving for a whole year...hmmm.... yeah that sounds organic.
/s
Totally not suspicious at all! Why can't you just be a retarded normie and not question anything?
“Minimize use of air conditioning” No. Never
Where does it say anything about fuel shortage? These are just efficiency tips.
well I would suggest parking in shade if you have a nick or crack in your windshield you haven't been able to get to the glass shop to fix...found that out the hard way a couple years ago. has a small nick from a rock that never did anything for over a year then started to look a little longer on one side, parked in indirect sunlight and went for a hike. came back 2 hrs later and had a crack halfway across the windshield from the heat.
Any shift in extreme temperature will cause havoc. Thermal expansion. OP probably parked in the sun and got a gust of cold wind.
New windshield glass is cheap crap. Just had a 21 year old windshield replaced with one from the glass factory in documentary American Factory. The new glass was less rigid than the broken windshield.
Don't care. Going to ride all summer.
Gas shot up 40 cents overnight where I live. Its crazy.
AAA is unaware of how aerodynamics work apparently.
Also there isn't a shortage, and won't be. The "shortage" is people not going to want to buy gasoline at 7 dollars a gallon. The shortage is in the demand, not the supply.
There won't be any gas shortage. Gas just broke $3 a gallon here. There will be plenty of gas no one can afford ( until we get our next free money check from JoXiden )
TBH, this looks like the same stuff the AAA has been putting out since I was a kid (and that's been a loooooonnnngg time). It's basically AAA trying to look like they actually matter anymore. They also offer such great points as "gas prices expected to rise for summer travel". They would put out the same crap if gas was $1 a gallon.
Whats the safest way for me to store gasoline at home?
In a jenkem bottle
AAA can go fuck themselves, my membership is due and this is all the BS I need to see to convince me to save my $100 this year. They don't mention the biggest point, if you don't drive as much AAA doesn't stand to lose as much money on their benefits like emergency roadside service and free trip planning.
No mention of tyre pressure? 🙀
Cost of food and goods will go up as well.
F AAA.
They are concerned about the weight of the cars affect on mileage? Maybe some fat positivity people should protest
Gas is already up a dollar here in NH. like wtf
My friend sent me a screenshot from her local Fakebook page for the town she lives in last weekend. At least 2 gas stations were out of gas. This was in the metro area of KC.
Triple Ass more like it
If a hurricane hits this summer and there is no gas for generators that will be the last straw.
Can we get a link?