Providing clarification on the rule surrounding Twitter links and screenshots - they are permitted.
The solution to reducing the traffic that we send them (and therefore $ that we generate for them) is not to remove one of the most prominent sources of information. By isolating ourselves from this content in all forms, we are hurting ourselves more than we are hurting them, in what is already a period of instability.
We continue to encourage screenshots rather than tweet links, and also encourage sharing the content of a tweet by itself, such as extracting the link or image from a tweet. Moderators of this community may avoid stickying direct Twitter links in order to further encourage the above.
A long term solution would be to replace Twitter’s embeds system with something custom and equivalent, similar to Nitter - which is a suggestion that we had previously heard, considered, and determined wasn't the correct solution. Additionally, the problem with converting Twitter links to simple screenshots is the lack of support for videos and article links. Automatically converting Twitter links to the archived equivalent could be an adequate stopgap solution, but would drop support for embeds.
Some other notes:
Please post platform concerns, suggestions etc to c/meta rather than to The Donald so that they will get looked at.
Thanks doggos
WHO'S A GOOD BOY?
Did you assume his gender? Bigot
I would never call Doggos a bitch.
Incredible.
1st Williams, and now the true identity of doggos revealed!
Down voted and reported for linking to bestiality porn.
i believe in choice, anyone could hv either longpressed or hovered their cursor over the blue linkie to reveal wht they were clicking/tapping on, its not my fault u blindly click on shit, if that comment gets removed, than this fbi iploggin honeypot truly is no different than reveddit and twitter
https://kekpe.pe/i/609625e016c3e.jpg
Doggos has spoken.
Now all whiners shut up and enjoy this link:
https://twitter.com/
Limpdick Leolaporte gonna sue
"By isolating ourselves from this content in all forms, we are hurting ourselves more than we are hurting them, in what is already a period of instability".
You sound like a beaten woman who just can't justify leaving her abuser. ANYONE going to twitter, posting links, posting screen grabs, they are all generating revenue for twitter - our sworn enemy. twitter banned the PRESIDENT OF THE USA, yet you want to continue to allow things from their site to be posted here. Makes me think you are a fucking shill, doggos.
also, you complain about isolating ourselves - isn't that exactly what this board is? its a containment board for all of us Trump people. Nothing has ever changed in the political conversation, or in anyones mind, because of some BS post on twitter. Don't give us this isolation is bad BS when the entire site you run is isolationist.
wtf is gained by being on twitter with a bunch of non-convertible bots? NOTHING. Wake the fuck up, you are personally hurting our movement with your cuckishness and your willingness to take twitter dick deep in your throat.
I agree with this. Twitter and Facebook and YouTube has already isolated itself away from conservatives and profiles and silences them were possible to try to make their lives miserable. I see no value in associating with that and supporting them. There are already conservative alternatives existing, so to continue to use big tech is to continue to empower them. If all conservatives stopped using their services overnight, they would be in big trouble financially, which would be something to really celebrate.
We need embed capabilities for alt tech sites like gab, parler, and rumble! We have bitchute, which is awesome, but the ability to embed others would help us immensely.
Last I checked:
Sheesh what's up with that? Really shooting themselves in the foot.
small companies, limited labor pool, trying to make profit rather than give google customer insight for ad buyers
Bitchute Thumbnails Rarely Appear when Linked
they are the worst at loading
I will say that Bitchute did improve noticeably once I got an account and logged in.
I read rumors yesterday that Bitchute was beginning to censor content.
Not sure if true.
Please follow up with me ASAP if you hear anymore on the subject. It would have an impact on a project I'm helping out with.
Well, such allegations date back farther.
For example: https://www.theburkean.ie/articles/2020/12/13/bitchute-removes-extremist-content-in-partnership-with-hope-not-hate
They are based out of UK and we all know UK is drifting toward fascism. Being based in UK subjects BitChute to all the UK's anti-free speech policies and fascist information control.
Seems they are bowing to pressure from phony organizations such as "Hope Not Hate."
Granted, it is a far more free speech platform than youtube. But once they begin censoring things and bowing to these phony "anti hate speech" organizations it becomes a slippery slope.
I think that Odysee is rapidly becoming the platform of choice for hosting video content.
Yes, they banned Black Crimes Matter. They're not free speech, they just havent made any major moves for people to notice. They will though. Its only a matter of time.
Beginning? They've been censoring since 2017 and recently have started accelerating.
Can we have a share button for Gab? Been wanting one.
Does odysee have similar problems as well?
Do you know about the bug that doesn't allow people to edit their comments? Sometimes it looks like it worked, but then the next day it might have reverted back to the unedited comment.
Makes it feel like the mods are preventing the edits, which is a very unwelcome experience. I messaged the mods about it, but they say they don't have to approve edits. Must be something else then.
Run all that commie shit through https://archive.ph/ before posting.
Many of the archive web sites block VPNs, effectively disabling VPN users from seeing the linked site, even through the archive link.
Communities.win and associated sites shouldn't automatically rewrite links as links to archive sites without first verifying the archive won't block a VPN.
So we should self host our own web archiver. At the very least use a decentralized one.
Smartdnsproxy and privatevpn hv some of the cleanest ipadds I've seen on iknowwhatyoudownload
Most people don't need vpns, so that only applies to a really small subset.
Everyone — every. one. — should be using a VPN.
Agreed.
But which one? I don't wanna get raided when another one of the mods here go all Williams and tries to give up the ipadd logs to -f-b-i
I use windscribe. https://windscribe.com/
Wht do u think abt their nextdns thingy
Also meh, privatevpn let's u portforward for way cheaper without paying extra, u got any windscribe promo codes to share?
Sorry. I bought a lifetime membership when they were much cheaper.
The prices have gone up. You can probably find a better VPN at a better value than what Windscribe is currently charging.
Uh no. Don't be a faggot.
No you don't. IP addresses are not people.
If you're that paranoid, make a guest network and leave it open. Like they always say to us, "plausible deniability".
Doesn't it catch people on a work network?
I like my links to load quickly though.
You can use this Website: https://twittervideodownloader.com/ To instantly download Twitter Vids then upload them to Bitchute To Share here, Streamable works but they are Hardcore libtards and take down based vids in about an hour.
Videy.co is a lot like streamable, without the censorship and loads faster than bitchute
Thanks , will try that one out!
Is he for real? I might as well use ipv6 without the privacy extension enabled and nat64xyz while I'm at it
I am not sure so do not quote me on this but because they have international users it is the required minimum so it can be used for EU users.
But to be real, do not think that every site logs your IP?
Including this honeypot, which mod will be the next cuck who ratsout to the fbi like williams
Do u still need the last 4digits
You’re clueless. He didn’t rat anybody out. He was being targeted by THE WALL STREET JOURNAL as the mastermind/owner of this site and all he did was defend himself.
You’re acting like he went to the feds, when that wasn’t the case at all.
And if this place is a “honeypot” you’re free to leave, just please wait another five minutes or so until we finish triangulating your location.
Why does patriots need iplogs of logged in users?
Fuck... you beat me to it you glorious bastard
we can't isolate ourselves from those networks. We need to share what's being shared there so we can correct their propaganda and fight their narratives. You can't pretend ignoring Twitter makes their propaganda go away. It's still a ubiquitous platform most normies use and that's unfortunately how you're going to reach them at least to keep encouraging them to come here
100%
This is why we suggest you not link them, archive, screenshot, nitter all are better than a direct link
<3
That's why you proactively share indirect links / archived versions of legacy media posts and proactively share direct links / embeds of new media.
Good luck “correcting their propaganda.” They will just shadow ban you.
^ this
No, this is not true. They have a fraction of the users of the other platforms and have struggled with this for a decade. Their traffic is as fake as Reddit's ex-CEO pointed out about her platform.
Their product is promoting narrative. They mine data from users and assist in tracking users across the open internet. Data is centralized and exchanged, then shared. Algorithms are trained and expanded.
We participate.
If you want to discuss a real threat to us: leaving their echo chamber expands their power to manipulate their users. They are aware of this, it is a catch 22. We are trapped.
This is a very good reason to build new networks. Including .win.
Twitter is not an American company. They are a rogue actor, aligned with foreign entities, and an enemy of the people. We are fools for seeing them in any other light. We are fools if we think, long term, we should maintain any presence on their network.
FUCK TWITTER
Half the people here still browse the cucked website daily. Fuckin' addicts.
Agreed. Here's the analogy:
TWITTER IS YOUR PSYHCO EX'S BEDROOM.
Do you need to argue with your psycho ex in the bedroom?
No.
Argue with them somewhere else.
Having the bedroom visible (e.g. a screenshot) is fine, just don't go into the bedroom
Bad analogy. But glad we're in agreement.
It's a good analogy, because the conversation is rigged on Twitter.
Anyway, there's certainly a better analogy out there.
Maybe the better analogy would be Twitter is an isis terrorist's torture chamber and you're strapped in.
i just don't understand how or why someone would continue to drive traffic to a website that seems rather upfront about being dedicated to silencing any voices of dissent that don't bend over and gleefully take the chinese micro dick up the ass.
I appreciate all you guys are doing, speaking as someone who can't code.
Does anybody know if there's a way to get around nitter's rate limiting? Sometimes I'll post a twitter link as a source to show something is official. I worry that if I used nitter, it would become useless after twenty or so people clicked on it. Or is it only me that's getting rate limited? I don't really understand how this kind of stuff works.
I would say that a screenshot with link in comments to nitter would be best in that situation.
That’s what I would say to do too. The majority can get quick information without the click.
I really wish Nitter would automatically redirect you to another instance when one is limited.
I use a plugin called Privacy Redirect that is supposed to rotate instances, but doesn't. Probably interference from one of my other plugins though.
Doing some research to see if a nitter.win instance could be possible and limit the incoming links to communities.win (rather than the Internet at large). I'll post up to Meta if I can find a path.
Partially defeats the benefits of distributed nitter though.
That would be pretty cool!
Thanks, Doggos.
Problem: Losing the links and videos when you post an image of a tweet.
Here is one solution, that would improve Patriots.win at the same time.
Often, when users post an image or a link, they also want to include a comment, or details (such as related links).
The flawed solution has been to post your image or link, then immediately post a comment, and hope that other users will continue to upvote that comment, to keep it at the top. Once in a while, a nice moderator will notice, and pin the comment.
The best solution, which I think would improve the site in general, would be to always allow some text with a post, just below the image or link, unless it's a text-only post.
I would like this, not just for myself, but so that other users could provide me with additional information, to point out what makes the image or link significant, or to provide additional information, such as a related link.
Another solution, though not quite as elegant, would be to allow the original poster to pin one (just one) of his own comments.
As always, thank you for your fine work, that makes this site possible.
You can save Twitter videos locally using any number of free web services. Just search for "Twitter video save". Then upload them somewhere else for archiving.
This would be VERY helpful. I post a lot of screen shots, not just to twitter. Oftentimes links just simply don't get read because people are too busy (or sometimes lazy!), so I try and make it as simple as possible for people to get the information they might be interested in by capturing the main points of what I read.
The problem with that, as you said, is that unless the follow up comment with the link/source/context/more info gets a ton of upvotes, it gets lost, so we're stuck with just a screenshot to go by.
I remember a mod once used a tool that wasn't yet available to us - there was a "context" tool right next to the post somewhere. So he posted the screenshot or whatever it was, and then you could click on the "context" tab to get the link for more information. Is that something that will be available to everyone at some point?
MODS = GODS
FUCK TWITTER, ALL MY GOMIES HATE TWITTER
Do you have a Twitter link for clarification? 😎
Learn to archive your links.
Use archive.today.
Yes. It takes a little time but it prevents the Fake News from getting revenue so it’s worth it. It’s not difficult. Once you do it once it’s easy.
Wouldn't know where to start
Twitter links do nothing for those of us without an account.
The content is what we need. Not someone to hold open the door to the slaughterhouse for us.
You should be able to read the linked tweet and replies but not necessarily roam around the site, as a non user.
Every time I click a twitter link on here I'm greeted with a sign in page.
I deleted the account I barely used.
So the links are just useless for me.
Clear your cookies
Interesting. I get the linked material and a little place in the lower right corner to "sign up" or "log in" which can be ignored while I check out the link (usually in Incognito mode. Yes I know that's not full protection).
Any Pede know what's going on?
Icognito mode is not "not full protection". It's no protection. It just keeps you from storing the cookies and history on your device.
Get a browser like Brave that disables their trackers and ads.
I learned that from many smart Pedes, thanks.
I have Dissenter, it is built on Brave . yes?
I don't think so. Brave is built off Chromium, which is a Google product and I thought Dissenter is an add-on.
Thank you.
Can there be any doubt how many of those Tweets have been produced by artificial intelligence; i.e., robots? https://www.minds.com/edwardsshaw/
We must understand that twitter "screenshots" are the real Twitter product. They are the weakest of the social networks on active human users. The power they have is in projecting so-called "narrative", and enabling their "blue check" aristocracy that outlet. This product is weaponized in the literal sense against nation states and has been turned from destabilizing North Africa to destabilizing the United States.
We must understand that Twitter is a rogue subversive group beholden to foreign investment.
We must understand that rogue agency within the United States federal infrastructure has embedded itself within the Twitter ecosystem.
We must continue to work with alternative solutions until we find a way to permanently replace centralized social media.
There must be a reckoning here. We, as one people, need a free and open internet. There is no exception to this and there is no alternative to this. We all deserve and have a right to speak our minds as much as we have a right to tell each other to shut up, or walk away from a conversation.
This would explain how twitter is able to keep afloat when they don't evn hv ads or the machine learning profiling ai compute expertise of facebook
They're all DARPA creations.
Living on fed money floats.
What you should do is write up some code that automatically converts twitter links to nitter links or something like that....
This is 100% correct. Thank you.
nitter instances get blocked by twitter when too many requests are sent to twitter
Honestly folks. If twatter can nix a president with realistically over 200 million followers, they don’t give a shit about our traffic.
It’s much more important to get the word out and mobilize our forces!
the same policy should apply to all Fake News platforms and outlets as well
IOWs all of them except a tiny handful like Thegatewaypundit.com, Epoch times, etc.
Why are we unable to logout?
To keep you from leaving.
No - I am not familiar with this. What happens?
It just reloads, still logged in. On mobile and desktop. I am not the only one this is happening to.
Use a browser that deletes all your cookies upon exit (or when you want), and block 3rd party cookies.
Also block, spoof or turn off your referrer headers. I hate Firefox lately, but you can do all the above with it, and you don't need plugins/add-ons.
Adblock plus is still a good addon too, just disable "allow non intrusive ads".
Huh? Are you mobile or desktop?
I get the same in desktop, but it can probably be fixed by clearing cookies. (just haven't bothered yet)
And the really interesting thing is on chrome Android, patriots doesn't show up in site settings for me to clear cookies
I can still just tap on the padlock to clear the cookies and be logged out though
Thanks. When I can, I do screenshot tweets. It's only when a video that I think that's important for people to view is in it that I link to a tweet. Although, sometimes, I AM tempted to link to the tweet to give a bump to the analytics on a particular tweet or user; also as a way to passive-aggressively tell Twitter that a content or a user has traction.
This would be the best stopgap and I have mentioned it several times over several months.
Yes, it's not perfect, but most posts shared from Twitter are normal text tweets or pics, NOT videos. If we can reduce 90% of the traffic coming from this community (other 10% being those video tweets), I would say that's a massive temporary success.
Users still have the option to manually click through archived sites to get to the live site if they really want to interact with the hostile site.
100% agreed.
I generally prefer nitter since it makes all the content available, including replies, etc., in real time, and it also plays videos, but archive links are especially useful for content that is likely to be removed. Both are excellent tools, and if there was some autoconversion tool, or even a prompt in the submission box urging people to consider converting the link, it'd make a big difference imo.
We can go one step further and archive Nitter links!
e.g. https://archive.is/1cRYj#selection-174.0-180.0
It could easily be set up so that any user's Twitter link submitted on communities.win has the option to be auto-routed through Nitter (self hosted / decentralized preferred), and then that link gets auto-routed through a web archive engine (self hosted / decentralized preferred) like Archive.is.
The user clicks the link which takes them to the archive, and if they want video they click through to the Nitter link, and if they then want to interact with a hostile website they can click through to Twitter.
Smart move. r/politics picked and chose what content people were allowed to look at and that's exactly why they still believe a 2 year investigation failed because an 'incompetent dumbass' masterminded the perfect coverup of a crime that had no proof to begin with.
What’s twitter?
Chinese owned liberal propaganda arm masqueraded as social media
Saudii.
u/Doggos
What about using a privacy-viewer such as Nitter.net (or its many other alternate domains) which lets you view twitter posts, but blocks their invasive JavaScripts?
Maybe patriots.win could support nitter.net links?
did you read the post
Missed that. Thanks
I saw a Twitter link of that interview with the guy from Azerbaijani, when a bitchute link was available.
For shame
Thank you for this clarification admins.
I get some nasty comments when I post a tweet. I understand why due to the censorship but I think this is the correct policy because it is a widely used platform by us supporters and well wishers even if our President is under a ban
I hate facebook though with a passion. I;m glad no one links there.
Glad y’all are thinking about this stuff.
Don't forget to have your adblocker up when visiting these sites. We can use their bandwidth without giving them ad revenue.
Sometimes I post Twit screenshots. Other times, when I've found the comments on the feed amusing, I don't, because I think others might want a laugh, too. And most people are accessing Twitter to take a screenshot, anyway (just as they did when Trump had his account), so I don't see what the big deal is.
There's a lot of info on those platforms and even those who, like me, don't even have a FB, IG, or Twit account, find it informative.
Instead of the guys here (because I'm surprised to say it's mostly guys who do this) shaking their fingers at us like old schoolmarms, they should just bypass it if they're not interested; few things in life are that simple.
Oh yeah, and they can start hitting the "deport" button when posters tell us we're sucking Trump's dick or "gargling his balls" 🙄. That'd clean up the place--and that's what really needs to happen while it's still manageable.
Fight the real enemy.
'In what is already a period of instability. ' What does this mean? Is this a reference to the site itself? And perhaps its future? That sentence stood out to me, and it's concerning.
My two biggest issues with this site on mobile are that I can no longer zoom in on anything on the main page (when trying to figure out if the post is worth clicking on) and if I open the link and try to zoom in the side bar pops out and blocks everything. It would be nice if these could be fixed. Being able to completely disable the sidebar would be great because I never use it.
What about using another service like the Internet Archive to archive the tweets and share the archived link?
yet anoooother picture of Pepe - stickied
twitter link with informative video- not stickied
ooooookay
because the_donald is singlehandedly keeping twitter in business with all the massive traffic we send them
there are 192 million people here?
I'd also like to suggest we be a bit more conscious of who we're elevating around here.
What happens when the Matt Walsh's of the world have to confront that they cucked on election fraud?
That dude is like a hero around here because of his quality takes on culture or whatever but he's an election fraud denying pussybitch.
Are we still a high-energy rally for supporters of President Trump or some DailyWire culture complainer cuck losers?
Anyone who denied THE BIG LIE should be shunned from our community here even if they TOTALLY DESTROY some college student or whatever.
I use --> https://twittervideodownloader.com/ to archive videos that Twitler may delete..
I couldn't agree more! I view things like this the same way I do VPN's. They are a minor inconvenience but are a step in the right direction to unplug from the strings that attach you and your meta data to these tech oligarchs.
Being able to post videos from Twitter without linking to Twitter would be like, a really big deal. Heck, just being able to post vids here using .win hosting would be pretty sweet.
Fuck twatter
The solution for posting videos from Twitter without giving them ad revenue is just for people to use their phones and screen record the videos, then post them on a file sharing site.
Cool, now how about regional subs (6 months late)
Just stop
Screenshot it if you have to
Grab the video links and post them here
FUCK THEM
I'm a simple man, I see a doggos post, I read and updoot.
Or everyone can get something like Brave and ignore AnointedFaggot.
Is there some way to grab tweets and import them into Gab? A bot or something? I know that Gab had managed to grab a lot of Trump's recent tweets (as well as of those of the Racist Left).
If more fucking places saw things this way, we'd all be better off. I appreciate this sentence specifically