The people going on about "KKK stormfags" are left wing infiltrators. It's really obvious when they're obsessed with hating some fringe right wing groups that they're left wing. Their hate faces to the right.
Groups like the KKK are ineffectual and no one actually cares about them. They're a tiny bunch of oddballs that hardly anyone gives any attention to other than lunatics on the left. In fact it's primarily the attention given by the left that allowed them to recruit any significant amount of people. As groups go they're largely inert and frankly irrelevant.
If the KKK or neo-Nazis are the best the left can find to come out against on the right as it's ugliest blemish then that makes the left look bad not the right because those are little more than a bunch of weirdos that cosplay and commit predominantly aesthetic crimes.
If you want to look at the left by comparison:
Democrats appeal to Islamic terrorists/supremacists such as Al Qaeda, ISIS and Hamas.
Democrats appeal to Jewish/Communist terrorists/supremacists such as ADL/Antifa.
Democrats appeal to black terrorists/supremacists such as BLM.
Democrats appeal to racists, paedophiles and cartels.
I've left many out here but the most telling should be what about the worst white people have to offer? That's not actually left out. It's the Democrats.
When it comes to serious and organised crime including terrorists and the people most opposed to US liberty the Democrats are endorsed by groups that are actually extremely violent at scale and that are actively engaged in things such as lynching people for real.
When it comes to the worst any demographic has to offer they are in league with it. They always side with the worst contemporary enemies of society. Even people who suspiciously come across as closet Nazis are more prevalent on the left.
They receive allegiance from the worst in virtually any segment. The worst and most corrupt capitalists even. If the KKK haven't switched back to Democrat all that really tells you is they can't be as bad as the Democrats are making out.
If groups like the KKK are the best they can come up with, groups that are for all intents and purposes defunct and one they started in the first place then they've got nothing on us.
Stormfront types are easily handled and they're not the ones we're particularly bothered with. It's the reddit trannies and ADL types you need to watch out for.
He disavows them. He doesn't say hate them and do anything you like to them. I don't believe Trump has ever said to treat anyone as less than human which is nice of him because most of his opposition is that.
The issue here isn't as simple as not agreeing with KKK and similar groups. Take a look at your tone toward them. They don't deserve that nearly as much as the left does and it's not necessary against inactive (dormant) groups like the KKK to be like that.
The only thing that can accomplish it raising the volume on their hostility and turning them active. These groups already stagnate or decline if you basically don't stir the hornets nest.
The KKK and stormfront are associated but not the same and yes, it is wrong to treat people like that. You're doing the left's work for them but also virtually no one alive today in the KKK or other such groups has actually dehumanised anyone.
How many black people do the KKK hang a year? How many Jews do the Neo-Nazis kill each year?
I don't like groups like Q, KKK, Neo-Nazis, "Alt-Right", etc a great deal and they don't really cater to my tastes but I also have a measured sense of reality and I'll defend absolutely anyone treated unfairly. The reality is that they're an occasional nuisance at worse and quite often a laughing stock.
Those fringe types are easy to handle. Just ignore garbage or say it's garbage. Reinforce their positive attributes. Most of them aren't lunatics like the left despite their peculiarities and can be reasoned with to a far greater degree.
Reinforce what they do of value, such as seeing the truth beyond political correctness and being realists, ignore it or oppose it proportionately if it's noise like completely over obsessed with Jews or believing deliberately obscure and cryptic sensationalist anonymous posts on 4chan.
What you're doing it part of Salami tactics. Q is annoying but the real problem is not completely removing it but users going along with it. Removing Q doesn't fix that problem. It can make it worse much like allergies getting worse with low exposure.
Once all the things that I have to filter are gone and filtered out for me what next? Q is 1% that's on the upper end of annoying so slice that away. Sounds great. Let the slag float to the top and scrape it away. Except it doesn't end there.
There's another 1% such as the "KKK" (never really been a thing here) or "stormfags" or voat types. Notice no one is screaming on about the extreme left types like the Antifa, BLM, militant Jews, bigoted atheists and reddit trannies to get rid of them it's all just stormfag this stormfag that get rid of the extreme right meanwhile I'm seeing the extreme left and associates walking around feely all over the place.
After all the genuinely out there types are gone what's next? Well next are people like me who stand out opposing that and who have more experience or wisdom to see what's doing on and where this leads.
When people like me who stick out because we don't conform and can defend anyone including you are gone then the next 1% is taken and there's no one to stop that.
Before long there's a no hate rule in the sidebar and that means people saying there's only male and female as well as you're what you're born as or people simply telling the real history of the middle east without bias, misrepresentation or decoration.
The process never stops. After every 1% it's take off another 1%. You're part of that if you're joining in with all this yay lets bash the fash and punch a nazi Antifa nonsense.
Can you define extreme? Our extreme is no where near as extreme as theirs.
Can you tell me who Neo-Nazis are going around punching?
This is false equivalency. I think you've also not studied the phenomena of what's happening to the left. It has been drifting away from centre now for decades into the extremes and this hasn't happened on the right.
The defining feature of the left is now extremism. That's their forte.
The defining feature on the right is moderation. Even our extremists are moderate. Even the Neo-Nazis are a bunch of nerds and geeks, softies, moderate Nazis.
I think Jews would be confused because they're more likely to be treated like guests by Neo-Nazis in many cases where as on the left they will be treated horrendously in many cases. Same for black people with the KKK. The KKK will often treat black people BETTER than typical people on the left would.
Ideologically extreme? Sure, they can be in many respects that are easy to simply ignore. In practice are they extreme? No.
Real extremism, things like uninvited violence, that's the hallmark of the left, not the right.
someone yesterday was trying to argue that rule 1 shouldn't apply to them even though it clearly states "Our community is a high-energy rally for supporters of President Trump.". I am pretty sure that Trump denouncing their support and telling them to fuck off is enough to not count them as Trump supporters.
Globalist controlled MSM hid this consistently for 4 years to ruin his name. Free helicopter ride candidates, the lot of them.
The people going on about "KKK stormfags" are left wing infiltrators. It's really obvious when they're obsessed with hating some fringe right wing groups that they're left wing. Their hate faces to the right.
Groups like the KKK are ineffectual and no one actually cares about them. They're a tiny bunch of oddballs that hardly anyone gives any attention to other than lunatics on the left. In fact it's primarily the attention given by the left that allowed them to recruit any significant amount of people. As groups go they're largely inert and frankly irrelevant.
If the KKK or neo-Nazis are the best the left can find to come out against on the right as it's ugliest blemish then that makes the left look bad not the right because those are little more than a bunch of weirdos that cosplay and commit predominantly aesthetic crimes.
If you want to look at the left by comparison:
I've left many out here but the most telling should be what about the worst white people have to offer? That's not actually left out. It's the Democrats.
When it comes to serious and organised crime including terrorists and the people most opposed to US liberty the Democrats are endorsed by groups that are actually extremely violent at scale and that are actively engaged in things such as lynching people for real.
When it comes to the worst any demographic has to offer they are in league with it. They always side with the worst contemporary enemies of society. Even people who suspiciously come across as closet Nazis are more prevalent on the left.
They receive allegiance from the worst in virtually any segment. The worst and most corrupt capitalists even. If the KKK haven't switched back to Democrat all that really tells you is they can't be as bad as the Democrats are making out.
If groups like the KKK are the best they can come up with, groups that are for all intents and purposes defunct and one they started in the first place then they've got nothing on us.
Stormfront types are easily handled and they're not the ones we're particularly bothered with. It's the reddit trannies and ADL types you need to watch out for.
Donald John Trump completely rejects stormfags and he also rejects the left hand side of trannie psycho's too.
He disavows them. He doesn't say hate them and do anything you like to them. I don't believe Trump has ever said to treat anyone as less than human which is nice of him because most of his opposition is that.
The issue here isn't as simple as not agreeing with KKK and similar groups. Take a look at your tone toward them. They don't deserve that nearly as much as the left does and it's not necessary against inactive (dormant) groups like the KKK to be like that.
The only thing that can accomplish it raising the volume on their hostility and turning them active. These groups already stagnate or decline if you basically don't stir the hornets nest.
Good point, it would be mean to dehumanise the kkk...
The KKK and stormfront are associated but not the same and yes, it is wrong to treat people like that. You're doing the left's work for them but also virtually no one alive today in the KKK or other such groups has actually dehumanised anyone.
How many black people do the KKK hang a year? How many Jews do the Neo-Nazis kill each year?
I don't like groups like Q, KKK, Neo-Nazis, "Alt-Right", etc a great deal and they don't really cater to my tastes but I also have a measured sense of reality and I'll defend absolutely anyone treated unfairly. The reality is that they're an occasional nuisance at worse and quite often a laughing stock.
Those fringe types are easy to handle. Just ignore garbage or say it's garbage. Reinforce their positive attributes. Most of them aren't lunatics like the left despite their peculiarities and can be reasoned with to a far greater degree.
Reinforce what they do of value, such as seeing the truth beyond political correctness and being realists, ignore it or oppose it proportionately if it's noise like completely over obsessed with Jews or believing deliberately obscure and cryptic sensationalist anonymous posts on 4chan.
What you're doing it part of Salami tactics. Q is annoying but the real problem is not completely removing it but users going along with it. Removing Q doesn't fix that problem. It can make it worse much like allergies getting worse with low exposure.
Once all the things that I have to filter are gone and filtered out for me what next? Q is 1% that's on the upper end of annoying so slice that away. Sounds great. Let the slag float to the top and scrape it away. Except it doesn't end there.
There's another 1% such as the "KKK" (never really been a thing here) or "stormfags" or voat types. Notice no one is screaming on about the extreme left types like the Antifa, BLM, militant Jews, bigoted atheists and reddit trannies to get rid of them it's all just stormfag this stormfag that get rid of the extreme right meanwhile I'm seeing the extreme left and associates walking around feely all over the place.
After all the genuinely out there types are gone what's next? Well next are people like me who stand out opposing that and who have more experience or wisdom to see what's doing on and where this leads.
When people like me who stick out because we don't conform and can defend anyone including you are gone then the next 1% is taken and there's no one to stop that.
Before long there's a no hate rule in the sidebar and that means people saying there's only male and female as well as you're what you're born as or people simply telling the real history of the middle east without bias, misrepresentation or decoration.
The process never stops. After every 1% it's take off another 1%. You're part of that if you're joining in with all this yay lets bash the fash and punch a nazi Antifa nonsense.
Fuck the extremists on both sides brother. They are both crying loud extremists that do not have the good of the majority at heart.
Can you define extreme? Our extreme is no where near as extreme as theirs.
Can you tell me who Neo-Nazis are going around punching?
This is false equivalency. I think you've also not studied the phenomena of what's happening to the left. It has been drifting away from centre now for decades into the extremes and this hasn't happened on the right.
The defining feature of the left is now extremism. That's their forte.
The defining feature on the right is moderation. Even our extremists are moderate. Even the Neo-Nazis are a bunch of nerds and geeks, softies, moderate Nazis.
I think Jews would be confused because they're more likely to be treated like guests by Neo-Nazis in many cases where as on the left they will be treated horrendously in many cases. Same for black people with the KKK. The KKK will often treat black people BETTER than typical people on the left would.
Ideologically extreme? Sure, they can be in many respects that are easy to simply ignore. In practice are they extreme? No.
Real extremism, things like uninvited violence, that's the hallmark of the left, not the right.
The measure of "Extreme" in our era, is probably best defined by the degree of emphasis on identity politics of any stripe.
Trump is a beautiful man who achieved peace in the middle east - Globalists have stolen the presidency, that is what we should care about.
someone yesterday was trying to argue that rule 1 shouldn't apply to them even though it clearly states "Our community is a high-energy rally for supporters of President Trump.". I am pretty sure that Trump denouncing their support and telling them to fuck off is enough to not count them as Trump supporters.