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posted ago by OXIE ago by OXIE +2957 / -1

This details the FBI's ultrasophisticated work in tracking down down the ill gotten gains from those very very evil Russian Hackers.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.379840/gov.uscourts.cand.379840.1.0.pdf

It goes into detail in how they were on top of things from day one.

Evidently they have very super sophisticated software in which they can track when bitcoins are moved from one wallet to another.

Amazing! Incredible!

They were able to use their incredible skills to monitor the hackers moving bitcoins from one wallet to another until the hackers moved all of the bitcoins to a wallet that the FBI just happened to have all the keys and passwords to. Then they immediately seized them.

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old_empathise 275 points ago +276 / -1

Real hard to recover what they stole in the first place... defund the fbi.

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thingaboutarsenal 133 points ago +140 / -7

So when Trump called Bitcoin a scam he was right again? Color me surprised.

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Deadpool 86 points ago +86 / -0

Trump is always proven right. It’s just a matter of time.

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CajunSoldier 85 points ago +91 / -6

Good instincts except when picking people for the government. Sucked there.

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randomusename 77 points ago +77 / -0

Everyone of his temporary appointments was MAGA and awesome. It's the ones that needed Senate approval that weren't so good

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darkgwalchmei 37 points ago +37 / -0

exactly this. He could only pick candidates that would have the support of RINOs

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Omniwulf 10 points ago +12 / -2

Lets derail the FBI topic to Trump topic.. grrrr

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darkgwalchmei 2 points ago +2 / -0

Reality is awesome!

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Auroraalpha 12 points ago +12 / -0

The biggest problem was keeping Paul Ryan as Speaker of the House.

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RootinTootin 9 points ago +9 / -0

Like many, I had just thought the Republicans would fall in line behind Trump in 2017... after all it was pretty clear what the base wanted right? Geez were these last few years eye openning

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SurfingUSA 11 points ago +11 / -0

on top of that, some wing of the RNC sh!t-canned all the fabulous MAGA resumes for the lower, non-Senate confirmed openings.

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fat50 4 points ago +4 / -0

Or the Senate just never approved them.

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someoldcoderguy 28 points ago +29 / -1

While, unfortunately I would have to agree, a lot of his government position picks were bad. I wonder how any of us would fare if the people that we should be able to trust were lying to us constantly.

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BidensPrisonWallet 21 points ago +21 / -0

Hopefully the next time around anybody with DC experience is immediately disqualified.

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DrCowboyPresident 5 points ago +6 / -1

Good luck getting them through the Senate

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OneBigMaga 5 points ago +5 / -0

Just need to get rid of anyone who is not MAGA in the senate.

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EvanOnTheFly 2 points ago +2 / -0

Then have temporary appt.

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TheWinningNeverStops 13 points ago +13 / -0

Agree. When it comes to people he wants to believe they are good which is one of his faults.

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Kyro5411 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's the sign of a kind hearted person 😘

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hazelknut 4 points ago +5 / -1

Epically sucked.

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CajunSoldier 3 points ago +3 / -0

Bigly

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rootGoose 1 point ago +1 / -0

The non-deep state pool is small and positions needed to be filled (by law).

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krepoisbest 8 points ago +8 / -0

You think he is right with all the people he supports and the anti trumpers he had in the WH? Also right about the vax? Get it quick?

Come on now.

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SurfingUSA 8 points ago +8 / -0

J-a-r-e-d remains a p-r-o-b-l-e-m.

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MyDadLikedBiden -3 points ago +2 / -5

Yes.

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fakewhiterage 1 point ago +1 / -0

Him and Alex Jones too

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GrayManNumber333 30 points ago +31 / -1

Not exactly. Fbi just admitted to being part of the hacking team.

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DuplexFields 3 points ago +4 / -1

I'm guessing they (and many other governments) have ways to immediately grab the password keys to even slightly less-than-secure bitcoin wallets, so any security you think you have on your wallet is just security theater. They certainly learned their lesson from Silk Road.

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RIP_NWO 2 points ago +2 / -0

That doesn't make sense...there is no "password" for an address unless you mean the private key, which is not crackable any time soon. If you're talking about a bitcoin wallet then they'd have to capture your bitcoin wallet file first then crack the password for it (or keylog you), but it would have to be targeted.

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DuplexFields 1 point ago +1 / -0

I've never gotten into crypto because I was under the impression that without a good end-to-end system, and keeping it on as few systems as possible, the private key can easily leak out to bad actors and the address can be pickpocketed.

Because that was my impression, my reply was assuming there's a decent number of private keys that have been captured by governments, but they're not seizing the bitcoins for now as a way to get unsuspecting criminals (and thought criminals) to put their assets into them.

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NateBedfordForrest 1 point ago +1 / -0

The FBI can't hack. They want to, but simply do not have the resources.

Hell, why hack when you can just get acquaintances to roll on ___?

It is really that simple to understand.

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GrayManNumber333 2 points ago +2 / -0

I mean from their statement it sounds like they received their portion of the payment, not hacked it.

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NateBedfordForrest 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah. FBI work? The only work they perform is through threats, leveraging associates against associates...partners against partners, friends against friends. Etc. Etc.

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thingaboutarsenal 1 point ago +1 / -0

Or that they can access crypto wallets. Either way it's bad news.

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AppalachianTactical 13 points ago +13 / -0

or not a scam as much as the fbi was behind the shit.

Even though I do think there are reasons to suspect all crypto, there is money to be made on it and that is why the govt is trying to tax it at insane rates.

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Torrvarpen 10 points ago +10 / -0

You could run the same scheme using gold or any other asset. As long as people are ignorant enough you'll get away with anything.

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IncredibleMrE1 9 points ago +9 / -0

I'm shocked I tell you. SHOCKED!

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Independenceforever 36 points ago +36 / -0

Is there anything they do that the US Marshals can't?

Other than constantly commit illegal acts and cover up CIA crimes?

Abolish the FBI. Abolish the CIA.

Has anybody other than Mike Lindell had a GOOD experience with the FBI?

The trafficked children in this country sure wish the FBI wasn't a giant evil mafia.

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Deadpool 37 points ago +37 / -0

The only thing the FBI does that the US Marshals won’t do, is protect and cover up crimes of corrupt politicians. The US Marshals were started by George Washington and they are they only federal police force we have ever needed.

The FBI have been corrupt from day one under the cross dressing fag founder, J Edger Hoover

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NateBedfordForrest 3 points ago +3 / -0

Deadpool gets it.

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MooseOperator -4 points ago +5 / -9

Hoover was based, he hated Communists with a passion.

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Yeehaw-McKickass 6 points ago +7 / -1

What was hitler and the nasi's stance on communists again? Memory is acting a bit fuzzy.

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SurfingUSA 1 point ago +2 / -1

I'm trying to remember ... well the new acclaimed book Stalin's War makes it sound like Hitler and the National Socialists more or less saved Western Europe from the communists.

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UmbraSapientia 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yeah! Especially when they invaded Poland together and were planning to fuck the world over and become a global dual-state. "oh but the nazis hated commies! It's in Mein Kampf, 1920s street fights, Hitler invaded Russia!

Fascism is a derivative ideology of Marxism - it's not Marxist, but "Marxian". Communism - just with ultra-nationalist characteristics. Basically, Stalin era Russia but competently and efficiently run as a political state. It's the same shit dialectical nonsense creates - a totalitarian system - as it's designed to do.

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RootinTootin 2 points ago +2 / -0

So Hitler showed China how to make communism sustainable?

And China learned from USSR and US to have proxy wars not direct conflict

China really is good at copying other people's ideas

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SurfingUSA 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fascism (true fascism) is unique to Italy, as national socialism is unique to Germany.

also, "invaded Poland together." uh, simultaneously is not the same as "together."

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Flipakademsarepedos 8 points ago +8 / -0

No need to fear, the “theys” w pink hair (FBI) are here!

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ChuckedBeef 2 points ago +2 / -0

The NSA is a big lie too. "We have everything" yeah sure you do. Nothing but another tax payer sink hole.

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mass55th 2 points ago +2 / -0

F.B.I. stands for Fabricating Bureau of Instigators.

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eagleeyeddjt 117 points ago +118 / -1

The FBI, NSA, CIA, etc all have software that allows them to essentially steal from someone and then leave behind fingerprints from whomever you want to frame.

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Patriot_Lettuce 30 points ago +30 / -0

Yup.

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Independenceforever 20 points ago +20 / -0

Whom else have they "shared" this software with?

CCP?

Iran?

Germany?

Whom?

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Imransgarage 21 points ago +21 / -0

CIA lost their entire hacking suite and don't know who took it, according to wikileaks.

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Pirate_Lafitte 3 points ago +3 / -0

They've replaced it by now

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me-no-likely3 1 point ago +1 / -0

Takes a long time to build anything like that up. They probably use the same tools today, but with changes

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UmbraSapientia 3 points ago +3 / -0

Really? how the fuck?

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Imransgarage 2 points ago +2 / -0

Read all the vault 7 info on wikileaks. They claimed it was contractors.

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AssPhixEAtion627 4 points ago +4 / -0

Or did CHYNA steal the software, like they steal almost everything, and use it with they new recruits, the Feds, and all their xyz agencies? I dont trust none non not one of them

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KekistanPM 6 points ago +7 / -1

"Special agent Jones, we need you to track down a potential dissident who's off the grid."

"Off the grid? What's that mean?"

"It means they have no smartphone, credit cards, computers, or any kind of digital account except an old drivers license."

"Then they practically don't exist anymore! How do we find them!?"

"I don't have the slightest clue. Call agent Jenkins; he's retired and living in hospice but he may have some ideas for how we used to track people"

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IncredibleMrE1 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yep.

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keyboardcat 1 point ago +2 / -1

Not from a bitcoin wallet, afaik. You are referring to vault 7. Bitcoin's blockchain doens't work that way.

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eagleeyeddjt 2 points ago +2 / -0

If you give me access to a Bitcoin wallet I can make it look like someone else stole your wallet.

t. former Coinbase employee

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keyboardcat 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sounds like bullshit to be honest

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eagleeyeddjt 1 point ago +1 / -0

Okay, sounds good dude

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mikethemarine 58 points ago +58 / -0

thanks for saying that so I didn't have to, It was always their account and we all know it's just part of the plan.

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mikethemarine 20 points ago +20 / -0

This is another way to take control, why you ask. By them doing this it makes it look like Bitcoin is not safe from them, this could bring down crypto currency and I think it's the main part of the plan for monetary control. To have one world order the must control the flow of money, weapons,food, and health care, fuel if you have these you own the world

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thisguy883 3 points ago +3 / -0

Just look at what happened to the crypto market when the news broke.

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Magalomaniac 3 points ago +3 / -0

ding ding ding

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Torrvarpen 28 points ago +28 / -0

It's impossible, unless you have access to one or more computers capable of testing 2²⁵⁶ key combinations. For reference, a standard quad core consumer CPU can test 1M keys per second.

It's already confirmed that the ransom was sent to a shared wallet service, which is literally putting your coins in someone else's wallet. And just like any bank, funds sent to a centralized service can easily be seized.

Funniest detail tho, why would Russian hackers use a Commiefornia based wallet/exchange service, instead of a Russian exchange that allows them to exchange for Rubel. Dollars are worthless in Russia.

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JustHereForTheSalmon 13 points ago +13 / -0

"Not your keys not your coins"

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Torrvarpen 11 points ago +11 / -0

^^ Exactly, and if anyone is aware of that it's the "Russian hackers". Which is why the story doesn't add up at all.

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markolbb 3 points ago +3 / -0

standard quad core consumer CPU

Wouldn't it be more fair to compare a consumer GPU instead of CPU? I haven't done infosec in many years but we used GPUs for that task back then.

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Torrvarpen 8 points ago +8 / -0

Fair enough, but most GPU's aren't that much faster when it comes to brute force encryption. At most 100 times. So you only reduce the complexity from about 2²⁵⁰ down to 2²⁴⁸ which is still a very big number.

Add a million GPU's to the cluster and you're down to 2²⁴². And once hardware exist that are capable to brute force within reasonable time we'd just switch to AES512 then AES1024, that's 2⁵¹² and 2¹⁰²⁴ key combinations respectively.

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AllTheWayTrump 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Russian" hackers.

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Rig4Red -1 points ago +1 / -2

A 256 qubit computer can do in one pass. The decoherence time before a second pass can be made is limiting factor, but in sophisticated equipment is on the order of magnitude of seconds to minutes.

If IBM can publically claim there are 100 qubit systems and 1000 qubit targeted by 2023 you can guarantee there are top secret 1000 qubit systems running in 2021.

In any event, a 64 qubit system can solve in 4 passes instead of one. If decoherence takes hours, they can brute force within a day.

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Torrvarpen 2 points ago +2 / -0

That would pose a threat to every single existing application using encryption. If they ever manage to do that they would obviously go after people who's plotting to take down the government first, then they would come for the opposition, making America a one party state.

What would they gain from brute forcing into random crypto wallets and steal funds into their own wallet? If they started to do that the price would dip to zero instantly, I only see two outcomes from that.

  1. If a quantum secure algorithm exist a fork will be made, everyone will upgrade and the government can't fuck around
  2. Everyone lose everything they own, you just gonna sit back and say "ok" then starve to death? of course not, you heat up the tar and bring feathers then march to NSA, storm it and dip every one of those fucker in tar and feathers while armed people fire at the quantum computers.

Maybe there is a third option too... everyone just accept being fucked over, fall back to government inflated currency and UBI then remains slaves to the state for the rest of their pathetic lives.

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cortosis_turkey 3 points ago +3 / -0

If they ever manage to do that they would obviously go after people who's plotting to take down the government first, then they would come for the opposition, making America a one party state.

implying this hasn't already happened

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Torrvarpen 1 point ago +1 / -0

It has happened, but not because they've somehow managed to brute force every existing encryption algorithm in just seconds. You're overestimating their capabilities which means they scare you into silence. Don't be afraid, that's how they control you.

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Omniwulf 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have never believed in bitcoin. I have never seen a system that has not been hacked. Putting ones wealth into cyberspace is stupid to me.

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Torrvarpen 3 points ago +3 / -0

I hope you're aware of the difference between open source and proprietary code, centralization and decentralization, blind trust and "trust but verify", encryption and math.

If none of that makes any sense to you, no problem, just make sure that you stick to gold and silver. Avoid cash and don't put anything in a bank account.

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AllTheWayTrump 3 points ago +3 / -0

When tptb cut off internet access to the world, what use will bitcoin have?

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Torrvarpen 5 points ago +5 / -0

None, neither will money in your bank, government mass surveillance systems, social credit, social media, fake news media etc etc... Libtards will get bored and perhaps storm the capitol because they're unhappy about the current state of the country.

So maybe an internet outage is a good thing.

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Omniwulf 1 point ago +1 / -0

I am aware that any decent versus bitcoin is always quickly countered. It is like people are paid to defend if. Even in this clear light of Vulnerability.

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Torrvarpen 1 point ago +1 / -0

So if you put your gold in someone else's safe, and that person decide to steal your gold, that's a vulnerability in gold? See how this works, you blame the wrong thing and people are pointing it out.

Nobody is getting paid, who the heck would take money to lie about vulnerabilities in FOSS anyway, that's an argument nobody could possibly win. If you're really concerned about Bitcoin, then show where in the code this vulnerability is so that it can be fixed.

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Rig4Red -2 points ago +1 / -3

No, you missunderstand. They have a skeleton key to anyone's house. They cant rob everyones house, theyd get caught and there isnt enough time to do that. But they can rob one persons house without anyone questioning it by just claiming they happened to have the passwords. And the sheep will believe it was coincedence. 200 years ago, if you claimed there was a master skeleton key, you would be laughed at. Now physical keys are a joke to exploit.

There is no such app to prevent a quantum attack when you have source, only algoritms that can slow it down for smaller qubit configurations in hope that the decoherence time is sufficient. When you dont have source, you have to bet against opportunity to attack vs time delay to rotate your salt.

There is only entanglement to detect a man in middle quantum attack, which cannot be done in software and requires hardware to do so. Still succeptible to a man in the middle attack, but requires physical presence to perform, reducing security vector surface.

I hope you understand these computers are hundreds of millions of dollars. Only state actors have. You must assume they are exploiting for their gain from all ends. You must understand if someone is a target, they will find a way to attack. Protection comes from knowledge that you can be attacked, not from belief that you protected because you believe the problem starement is too big.

Same thought process led to belief that jfk was killed by lee. Trigger warning... it wasnt lee.

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Torrvarpen 2 points ago +2 / -0

Protection comes from knowledge that you can be attacked, not from belief that you protected because you believe the problem starement is too big.

Correct, but it's also important to understand what's possible in terms of attack vectors, being prepared for say a wizard who comes flying on a broomstick only to blow up your house would be extremely expensive.

I'm prepared for many different types of attacks (except a flying wizard), which is why I'm not all in on crypto. I actually expect losses once shit hits the fan. If they wanna take me down they'll do it, all I can do is to resist and take a few of them down with me.

In any case, there's no need to be afraid of quantum computers. If they ever becomes as good as you describe or even exist, everything in the world is at risk.

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JediDwag 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sure, but this sort of quantum computing doesn't exist yet.

And if or when it eventually does, there are already schemes for quantum encryption that will be just as secure against quantum computers. Encryption isn't a stationary target.

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FliesTheFlag 26 points ago +26 / -0

Ding ding ding we have a winner, just like every other major thing in the US(shootings, bombings) the FBI is behind it. Scum of the fuckin earth with the CIA/DOJ/BigTech

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MobileDev4Trump 9 points ago +9 / -0

Unless they have a Quatum Computer that breaks 99% of existing encryption. The real truth is they honey potted the hackers with compromised apps and equipment or where involved in the hacks to begin with. My guess is both.

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MobileDev4Trump 14 points ago +14 / -0

The whole Russian hacker group is probably just Alphabet hackers larping with each other not realizing that their aren't any real Russians.

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me-no-likely3 3 points ago +3 / -0

The Bitcoin wallet address is public & you can trace all the transactions. If you know the pass phrase associated with a BTC wallet, you’re in. All blockchain technology is is a database that everyone has a copy of and then it has cryptographically secure changes made to it as a change log/ledger. The password for the wallet could have been captured in another investigation. Apparently the group who did this has received $90million in the last year or less.

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MobileDev4Trump 85 points ago +85 / -0

It's almost like they did this just to manipulate markets and create FUD.

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Flipakademsarepedos 26 points ago +26 / -0

And to raise gas prices!!!

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MobileDev4Trump 18 points ago +18 / -0

The Great Reset didn't happen in their first attempt so cyber disruption is new attack vector. Watch more fake cyber attacks shut down parts of the economy

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sickofaltspin 2 points ago +7 / -5

Right from the horse's mouth. Klaus Schwab warns of the next step in his "great reset."

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AllTheWayTrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

Motherfucker just sounds evil.

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Torrvarpen 10 points ago +10 / -0

Like hitting shithead pence with a flyswatter, chances are high that you hit two flies in one swing.

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Imransgarage 4 points ago +4 / -0

Main reason was to slow down the south. That was reasons #1-9 on the list.

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SweetTeaPatriot 43 points ago +44 / -1

Ha ha ha!

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OXIE [S] 64 points ago +64 / -0

Unfortunately despite their outstanding work they were unable to recover the full ransom that the company paid. Mysteriously a big chunk of the ransom has disappeared without a trace.

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47urOFH3d 71 points ago +71 / -0

10% for the big guy?

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IncredibleMrE1 19 points ago +19 / -0

We all know 10% went to the big guy. Probably slices for Wray and a couple others too.

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Flipakademsarepedos 14 points ago +14 / -0

Of course 😂😂😂 this is fucking comical at this point

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GreyGooseDown 3 points ago +4 / -1

10% for the big guy.

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SupremeDearLeader2 3 points ago +3 / -0

I mean, child sex slaves ain't cheap .

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AllTheWayTrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

Neither is Hunter's crack addiction.

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PaineThomas 34 points ago +34 / -0

Sounds like a plot to damage cryptocurrency. I'm still wary of crypto myself, but this reads like a small town crooked cop pushing people towards a family owned business and away from a competitor, o ly taken to the very highest levels of law enforcement. It's corruption, plain and simple. They did not crack crypto. They staged the whole thing. That said, I'd be surprised if the NSA doesn't have a backdoor into some of the exchanges.

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ajm144k 6 points ago +7 / -1

ha the Party of Regulation scared of a de-centralized, virtual currency? i am just shocked.

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MehNahMehNah 3 points ago +3 / -0

That's not backed by anything? I mean, I'm aware of the spiral national fiat currencies are on, just not willing to bet on one thats dependent on technology alone. Because thats easily manipulated.

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bling 1 point ago +1 / -0

Bitcoin is backed by energy/hashing power. Because its decentralized, it's resistant to censorship, which you would think is a quality most people here would appreciate given the past year with big tech.

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keyboardcat 6 points ago +6 / -0

The FBI and IRS has offices in the major exchanges. But that doesn't mean they can crack a private wallet. Anyone in the world can watch any bitcoin wallet. Everything about bitcoin is leaving a trail that goes back until the genesis of the coin.

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HowWeGotHere 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thank you. Too many unfounded claims here.

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BarnStorm 1 point ago +2 / -1

The coins probably belonged to someone or some people who thought they were just buying bitcoin. Each coin is identified at all times, so its like fenced goods. Buy fenced goods and you can lose at any moment.

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Torrvarpen 3 points ago +3 / -0

Exchanges typically keep 1% in a hot wallet and the rest in cold wallets. The balance you see on your account is not on chain, it's stored in the exchange database.

X amount of BTC was sent to this exchange from where the supposed "hackers" probably planned to exchange it to fiat. The amount was big and sent to a KYC verified person with no income, of course any bank or financial service would get suspicious about that. So they contacted FBI most likely.

Then X amount of BTC was sent to the FBI, as "evidence". +/- 0 for the exchange and their users in order words. No keys involved and no coins seized.

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whraglyn 27 points ago +28 / -1

But, but, but, what about all those nooses?!?

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acasper 13 points ago +13 / -0

There was a noose found at a Merck facility on Saturday so I’m guessing the FBI is there investigating right now.

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Redneckathon 21 points ago +21 / -0

I found a double noose on each of my kid's shoes today. Very troubling...

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Sexual-Assault-Rifle 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hahahahahaha

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Independenceforever 5 points ago +5 / -0

Symbolically and spiritually wrapped around their necks by God.

I pray and plead with them to repent.

REPENT. CONFESS EVERYTHING. GOD AND THE PEOPLE WILL BE MERCIFUL.

I keep trying to tell everybody - church, state, anybody - that people are ANGRY.

The murderous anger toward Tony Fauci's relatively small bit part in this global crime wave shows it.

THE instant the people find the "right" target, they will want blood.

As soon as they wake up to how betrayed and scammed they've been by people they trust, they're gonna show the world what an actual angry "mob" looks like.

I try to stop it. I try to warn against it.

But bad government produces revolution. Peaceful when made possible.

The people have power to stop this all tomorrow and start a brand new future. When are they going to realize they have had this power all along and use it?

I don't want the world to kill itself either.

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Rubicante 23 points ago +23 / -0

Man that's some incredible luck. One time I found $20 in an old jacket, but imagine finding a few million in bitcoin in an old wallet.

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DoesFreeSpeechExist 23 points ago +23 / -0

"Those damn [checks cards] Russians!!"

Accepts handful of silver

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GrayManNumber333 21 points ago +21 / -0

So Bitcoin is secure, and they totally just admitted to being part of the hacking team.

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Torrvarpen 17 points ago +17 / -0

Yep, but MSM want you to believe that a group of Russian hackers got the genius idea to rip of the American government, and then cash out their ransom in American dollars, using their own identity, only to stay in America, and then somehow not get caught.

Instead of say having the ransom sent to their local wallet, launder it by doing a bunch of exchanges between various cryptos, and then cash out small fractions at the time into Russian Rubel, then keep on living their lives in Russia, where the vodka is cheap and the US government will never be able to catch them, like any sane Russian hacker would have done.

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GrayManNumber333 1 point ago +1 / -0

MSM? Don’t you mean cia?

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Error404LifeNotFound 13 points ago +13 / -0

OK so i'm not smart when it comes to bitcoin.. so what you're saying is that the FBI just happened to know where the bitcoin was going to be transferred to, and just happened to have access to that device, and just happened to be able to obtain a private key from that device?

and also the hackers just happened to save the password in a format on the monitored device that the FBI could use? what .. did they save a file on their desktop called "Bitcoin passwords for ransom money - do not lose.txt"?

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DiscoverAFire 3 points ago +3 / -0

The FBI knew the address the ransom money was sent to. Anyone who knows the address can watch the account and see where it sends money. The hackers sent the money from address #1 to #2, #2 sent it to #3, and #3 sent it to an Exchange (basically a US Regulated Bitcoin Bank)

So no passwords were hacked, nothing was decrypted, no private keys compromised, they just followed the public data on where the bitcoin was going, and then had the bank send it to them instead of whoever the hackers wanted to send it to.

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finalstraw -1 points ago +2 / -3

not quite. FBI provided a vault of which they know the combination (wallet), advertised it as "put gold in here so that it cannot be traced!!". Then the criminal did that so the gold now sits in this vault of which the FBI has the combination. FBI lols and opens the vault to remove the gold, claiming they confiscated it.

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AsaNisiMAGA 9 points ago +9 / -0

What a coinkidink.

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runonce 8 points ago +8 / -0

"The private key for the subject address is in the possession of the FBI in the Northern District of California" Yeah. You're gonna have to explain that one buddy. That's like making an opening statement in court by tossing a flash bang at the jury.

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deathbymonty 2 points ago +2 / -0

I laughed so, so hard when I got to that line and there was no explanation or contect given whatsoever LOL

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HerbieHancock 2 points ago +2 / -0

Are there anymore details on this?

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Benwa1985 8 points ago +8 / -0

As soon as I heard that they somehow recovered funds from an encrypted untraceable currency and wallet I just laughed. If these supposed "Russian hackers" had the ability to hack into anything at all, much less some sort of critical infrastructure than the sure as hell would have known how to cover their tracks with a highly encrypted currency and wallet system. I guess the FBI is just betting on most Americans to be ignorant to how crypto works or just sheep and not care. 🤷

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AllTheWayTrump 4 points ago +4 / -0

I guess the FBI is just betting on most Americans to be ignorant to how crypto works or just sheep and not care. 🤷

Been working for almost 113 years.

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NecroDoge 2 points ago +2 / -0

Bitcoin isn't untraceable, and the transactions aren't encrypted. You can see the public address where every Bitcoin is sent. That being said, there's no fucking way a hacker sent the coins somewhere the FBI could seize them. The FBI 100% hacked the pipeline.

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PhantomShield72 7 points ago +7 / -0

So Technology!

Much Hacker!

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OrangeMenace2020 7 points ago +7 / -0

The FBI has a very good track record of catching FBI assets when they want to.

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farfiman 7 points ago +8 / -1

Devil's advocate: It IS possible that the key was on a system that the FBI hacked previously or hacked after the event.

Saying that- HIGHLY IMPROBABLE.

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NoFats 6 points ago +7 / -1

Is it common for fake money advocates to leave keys unencrypted and in plain text?

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farfiman 1 point ago +2 / -1

Maybe beginners....

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DiscoverAFire 2 points ago +2 / -0

Most of my keys/phrases were saved as plaintext or images in the early days. Because I only had a few dollars in them. Nowadays... triple AES.

If I were an international hacker capable of encrypting entire companies and taking them ransom? Damn sure it'd all be encrypted.

Sounds like the FBI just end-ran it and got a court-order to force an exchange to send them the money, no hacking required.

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Illuminaughtie 5 points ago +6 / -1

i'm so proud of our boys and ex boys .....[ sheds patriotic tear

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AbrahamLincoln 5 points ago +5 / -0

FBI had all the keys and passwords to the wallet because it was the FBI's wallet.

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keyboardcat 4 points ago +4 / -0

How can you tell a ransomware attack is bogus? They ask for the ransom in a currency with a zero privacy. Real hackers would ask for Monero or some other privacy coin.

Real hackers don't transact is a traceable digital currency.

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DiscoverAFire 2 points ago +2 / -0

BTC is easiest for most victims, and real hackers can convert it to monero afterwards. That said, real hackers do not deposit unwashed btc into a us based exchange, not into a single account, not as a lump sum... all these things trigger audits.

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Pederella 4 points ago +5 / -1

Sure Jan.

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MehNahMehNah 4 points ago +4 / -0

..now retrieve Hillary's emails.

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Bullwinkle 4 points ago +4 / -0

Soon we will discover that these hackers are bought and paid for by the FBI or some other federal government minions. And they still didn’t recover all the money. Way to go, Stasi!

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mikethemarine 4 points ago +4 / -0

No, our tax dollars have already paid the FBI once to do it, they most likely are at the FBI's cyber crime unit, doing the hacks, just like the DNC hack and Hillary's hack to give plausible deniability that Russians put stuff in her account, it's all a bate and switch to confuse the normies

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Flipakademsarepedos 2 points ago +2 / -0

Just like the FBI said in emails a week before Seth died that they needed to take care of Seth rich and end the pressure he’s out on them

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gogueofreeee 3 points ago +3 / -0

Very not suspicious! So not a red terror! Much bravery!

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marvinthehaggler 3 points ago +3 / -0

(X) for Doubt.

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shill273 3 points ago +3 / -0

lol this guy doesn't even understand transaction fees and loop back addresses.

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vongregormench 3 points ago +3 / -0

Some spook on 4chan was trying to say that the FBI had a quantum computer so they brute force hacked the code by doing 50 quadrillion possibilities in a couple days. Hmm. Either the FBI has a quantum computer or elements of the FBI were in on the original crime. What’s more likely?

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acasper 3 points ago +3 / -0

TIL I am the FBI

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Bloodylouver 3 points ago +3 / -0

DEFUND THE FBI

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keyboardcat 2 points ago +2 / -0

So they claim the hackers accidentally sent the bitcoin to one of the FBI's wallets? GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE.

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OXIE [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yep

Right Now there are over 70 million bitcoin wallets and the hackers "accidentally" dropped the ransom into an FBI Wallet.

Like the famous line from that old movie Casablanca"

About his old girlfriend.

"Out of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world and she just happens to walk into mine"

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keyboardcat 1 point ago +1 / -0

CodeMonkey claims the FBI recognized the wallet belonges to an exchange and simply asked for the coins to be transferred to their wallet..

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OXIE [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Riiiiiiiight

That's where hackers keep their ransom payments, on public exchanges.

In that case the fbi would know exactly who did it and put them on their most wanted list. What! For some reason they have not done that.

Bitcoin is a direct peer to peer protocol. You do not need exchanges to move coins.

Maybe newbies don't know that, but all real hackers do.

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keyboardcat 1 point ago +1 / -0

Real hackers don't use Bitcoin. They use privacy coins. notice how there's no narrative about privacy coins being abused by criminals? That's because they don't want to bring attention to them.

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bipcopter 2 points ago +2 / -0

Can someone explain to me #34, how does the FBI have the private keys?

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meanwhileinamerica 2 points ago +2 / -0

Guys, this is the purpose of Bitcoin. Every single node on the bitcoin network has a public ledger so you know where your bitcoins have been. The issue is knowing who owns what wallet.

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buckiemohawk 2 points ago +2 / -0

Twitter tried to start a thing about the Sedition hunters of people going after people at the Jan 6th rally. And had to end it because people posted they were arresting the wrong people based on bad intel from non FBI

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Grindelwald 2 points ago +2 / -0

And like the Obama administration they’ll put it into a slush fund and handed off to their friends as necessary

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Salt_Cartoonist 2 points ago +2 / -0

Having read the report, the FBI investigated and found the money lead to the FBI. Not shocked.

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OneBigMaga 2 points ago +2 / -0

Remember when that crypto manager died and no one could find his passwords and all the people he managed lost millions? Good times.

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HerbieHancock 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes... How TF did FBI have access to these? Isnt a warrant supposed to be more descriptive?

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GeoG85 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hard to hear any news in regards to the FBI and not feel the tune of reading a children's book. :/

"Honk honk! Noose in garage!" "Honk honk! Pornstar in Public Photo."

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mainsoda 2 points ago +2 / -0

Could they be more obviously corrupt if they tried?

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xBigCoffinHunter 2 points ago +2 / -0

move funds from Agent A to Agent B then over to Agent C and presto! You’ve solved the case!

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Scot 2 points ago +2 / -0

Anything that comes out of the FBI is guaranteed to be a lie.

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GenerallyRight 1 point ago +1 / -0

It is a shame they can't use all those smarts to keep it from happening in the first place.

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SurfingUSA 1 point ago +1 / -0

O.P. can you provide a news article or sum'in' that goes into whatever this is about? Looks interesting but I don't have any context as I try to plow thru the courtlistener doc. tia.

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OXIE [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

OP Here

All the news articles right now are just spreading the FBI press release nonsense.

Here is a summary.

The FBI is claiming they have solved the Colonial Pipeline Hacking case and have recovered most of the funds from those Russian Hackers.

But to anyone who knows anything about how Bitcoin works the details they have given out look more like they were running the operation themselves.

For example to have it happen the way they say it went down, this very active, experienced hacking group made all sorts of rookie mistakes including instead of disbursing the collected ransom they just collected all the coins together and sent them to a wallet that was controlled by the FBI.

This still has their usual bias but suprisingly Bloomberg has a somewhat good explanation of what actually happened.

https://archive.is/eQupz

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SurfingUSA 2 points ago +2 / -0

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you for explaining this.

"running the operation themselves"

does that mean ... that maybe ... the FBI hacked the pipeline ???

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OXIE [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

The pipeline itself was never hacked.

The office computers containing the accounting information were locked.

When it got to the point where they would not know who to bill for the fuel that was being piped through the pipeline, Colonial Pipeline itself chose to shut down the flow.

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SurfingUSA 1 point ago +1 / -0

thank you, Pede with the exact details.

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Beer-_-Belly 1 point ago +1 / -0

Amazing that they knew where the money would end up. Almost like knowing a virus will be released.

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SaltySteffie 1 point ago +1 / -0

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

FBI is stupid, stupid assho

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darkgwalchmei 1 point ago +1 / -0

Marcia Brady enters chat: Sure, Jan

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TaxDollarsHardAtWork 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh? They were monitoring the situation the whole time and did nothing to prevent the pipeline shutdown?

Interesting.

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Damean1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Those silly hackers, moving all their crypto into a wallet the FBI had access to, what bad luck on their part...