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President_Elect_Pepe 96 points ago +99 / -3

This seems to mean that your antibodies provide better immunity if you previously had COVID.

In other words natural antibodies are preferable to the vaccine.

Of course if you’re old and fat it seems like taking a chance on creating natural antibodies might not be the best approach….

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Independenceforever 44 points ago +48 / -4

Take zinc. exercise.

eating right plus lifting weights will give people 10-20 extra good years.

nutrition, happiness, and exercise is STRONG medicine. Especially once they shed the weight and get that endless metabolic energy.

transforms people.

a health intervention would save a life. "vaccine" theory is cruel hoax for a middle age mind.

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Desktop 18 points ago +18 / -0

Not antibodies.....T-Cells. Watch this......... Michael Yeadon Full Interview

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PraiseBeToScience 4 points ago +4 / -0

Wouldn't it be B-cells? B cells remember things. T cells are just the killers.

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stealthboy 16 points ago +16 / -0

In other words natural antibodies are preferable to the vaccine.

I can see that headline in the next issue of "Duh" magazine.

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President_Elect_Pepe 12 points ago +12 / -0

To be fair this was already documented. It’s just more evidence to support that along with common sense.

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BoogieNight 4 points ago +6 / -2

If you're old and fat, you automatically cashed out all your valid options because you voluntarily put one foot in the grave and other on a banana peel.

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NotAnotherNPC 1 point ago +2 / -1

But I like my hot pockets. ;-)

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Brokenmatrix2021 10 points ago +10 / -0

You're almost as uplifting as Anaconda.

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Meister_Bockmist 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's the comment that we deserve, but not the one we need right now.

Nobody knew in the beginning it all was a hoax, it was some four days of sniffling and headache. When I saw the "smuggled" propaganda phone videos in 2019 (dead in the streets, house doors welded shut, wuhan wailing by night), I was not sure what was coming.

Of course, as nobody was dying during the first lockdown, things got clear, but it was too late then.

Fear eats the soul, and right now there are armies of soulless hysterics everywhere. Göbbles is laughing in his grave...

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Meister_Bockmist 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hermann Göbbels was the head of propaganda in the 3rd reich.

Of course we need the voice of reason (if there is still somebody willing to hear it), and no, never quit or let yourself be shut down.

Never.

I wanted to tell you that we just did not see through the charade in the beginning.

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PraiseBeToScience 2 points ago +2 / -0

I remember 4chan analyzing "SO2 emissions" and saying that there were mass graves in China where they were incinerating hundreds of thousands of people.

Turns out the conspiracy theorists were lying again.

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Meister_Bockmist 1 point ago +1 / -0

Let's not forget the underground mass burials in the sewers...

Oh, and the disconnection of hundreds of thousands of mobile contracts...

We have been played like a fiddle.

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Drooperdoo 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, Bell's-palsy and permanent Parkinson's sounds like a good solution for the old and fat.

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President_Elect_Pepe 1 point ago +1 / -0

It’s funny how I managed to piss off the pro and anti-vaccine crowd at the same time somehow.

I mean if you believe in the virus and you’re old and fat it’s good to get the vaccine.

If you don’t then don’t get it. I don’t care. I think people should make their own choices. All I’m doing is creating my own reasonable interpretation of the science.

Personally I’m not vaccinated but I’m not old and fat.

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Drooperdoo 2 points ago +2 / -0

"It's good to get the vaccine if you're old and fat"? Got any peer-reviewed data to back that up?

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President_Elect_Pepe 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh another fat person coming at me days later. I hit a nerve I guess.

Too bad “peer reviewed data” is an absolutely made up term.

There’s peer reviewed science and raw data which I support.

If you believe the virus kills people then you believe the data that says 87% of the people who were killed were obese.

So there’s that. But no. I’m not going to pull up google for snarky people anymore today.

You can do it or you can reply and cry more. Either way I don’t care.

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Drooperdoo 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm not even remotely obese. Quite the opposite. I just wanted to know what your source was for the experimental vaccine being 1) safe, and 2) being appropriate for the old and obese.

Here. I'd like you to read something and then give me your take on it: https://imgur.com/a/czLACMh

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Omnes_Omnibus 22 points ago +29 / -7

On the contrary, this would seem to indicate that the vaccine is as effective as being inoculated by having gotten the virus and recovering. This depends on the infection rate of those people who are not vaccinated and haven't been exposed. If the infections of all three are the same, it just means there's no virus around. The analysis should be separated by risk level, such as age, health, obesity, comorbid conditions, and other vulnerabilities.

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President_Elect_Pepe 24 points ago +26 / -2

The compared groups here are:

  1. People who had the virus.

  2. People who had the virus and received the vaccine.

If I’m missing something let me know. But your comment would not apply if that is accurate. You would need a control group of people who did not have COVID but were vaccinated for a true comparison.

And I think we all know why that specific study does not exist.

Even at a 96% rate of effectiveness that’s going to show that vaccinated people get infected far more regularly than the roughly 1 in a million we were infected twice or more.

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War_Hamster 13 points ago +13 / -0

How are they defining "had the virus" or "reinfection rate"?

If they're using the PCR test, I'd love to see the error margins.

If they can come up with statistically significant results using PCR tests, I'm going to question their statistical methodology.

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nutup_orshutup 3 points ago +3 / -0

Exactly. My first thought when I read the article. What is the PCR cycle rate(s)?.

Any article or study going forward that does not report and control for cycle rates is just unmitigated bullshit.

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War_Hamster 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is Statistics 101 basic level stuff.

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nutup_orshutup 7 points ago +8 / -1

But 96% effective is Relative Risk Reduction. The Absolute Risk Reduction is only about 0.7%.

The games drug companies play with numbers.

The vax is at best useless, and probably harmful in many different ways.

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Forgototherpassword 5 points ago +5 / -0

Is "deadly" or "crippling" included in "harmful?"

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Watermelons 2 points ago +2 / -0

Seems like that rarely gets reported, absolute risk.

Risk of hit by lightning = 2/1e6. Risk of hit by lightning when doing x = 1/1e6. Poof. 100% reduced risk.

(It's early and my brain can't make analogies)

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DoesItWorkAlready 2 points ago +2 / -0

If I’m missing something let me know

you are. Read the study again.

You have vaccinated and non-vaccinated populations from the Clevelend Clinic.

You have those who caught the rona and those that didn't.

Combinatorial math says that is 4 combos.

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DoesItWorkAlready 1 point ago +1 / -0

they compared non-vaccinated people who got the Rona (about 10%, versus slightly above zero for vaccinated and zero for previously infected)

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Omnes_Omnibus 1 point ago +1 / -0

Right, that's basically what I'm saying. For us to really know if the natural immune response and vaccine response are equally good vs nonexistent due to lack of virus, we would need to compare it to a control response.

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HuggableBear 16 points ago +17 / -1

Here's the thing: Coronavirus is a cold. This particular coronavirus is a severe cold, but it's still just a cold.

Your body doesn't really build up long-term antibodies against any coronavirus, it's just one of the particularities of that genus of virus. That's one of the reasons you get colds repeatedly. Sometimes it's a new mutation, other times your antibodies have just diminished to the point that you catch the same cold again.

Point is, no vaccine is going to be effective against a coronavirus infection for very long. This is simply a disease that we are going to have to live with as part of humanity's long list of diseases forever.

The vaccine was never intended to prevent you from catching the virus. That's the biggest myth about it that the media never tells you. It's similar to a shingles vaccine. If you do catch it, you will recover faster with milder symptoms. That's it. That's all this vaccine was ever supposed to do, which means it's not even a true vaccine at all, even if it worked 100% without side effects and did everything they wanted it to do.

So yeah, of course the reinfection rate is the same. The vaccine was never intended to stop infection at all, and your body doesn't really do it very well either against coronaviruses.

Maybe this sample of people had better recovery times. Maybe. But that's the only comparison that could be made between the two groups.

That's why this entire push to vaccinate everyone is absurd and this is the angle you should all be pushing to your friends.

It doesn't prevent infection., It doesn't. It doesn't prevent infection. At all. It has no effect on infection. None. There's no point to the vaccine except to mitigate your own personal symptoms.

And forcing people to get vaccinated in order to mitigate their own personal symptoms when that vaccine has zero impact on a single other human's health is ludicrous at best and downright evil at worst.

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nutup_orshutup 4 points ago +4 / -0

This ^, all fucking day long.

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KILLARY4PRISON 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's not a cold. You don't get fever symptoms from a cold.

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HuggableBear 2 points ago +2 / -0

lol yes you do

both coronavirus and rhinovirus cause fever

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nutup_orshutup 2 points ago +2 / -0

I agree but will add that the study made some flawed comments. They stated that natural infection immunity lasts at least 10 months. There are bone marrow studies out suggesting it is lifetime immunity.

This type of intellectual laziness for facts leads towards false comparisons that tend to put the vax in a better light than it is.

The choice is really this:

  1. Don’t get vaxxed. run a risk of getting the virus ( if you don’t already have cross or natural immunity), and then multiply that by your probability of it being benign (99.7%). And add in that there are safe and effective prophylactics and treatments for the disease. And drop 50 pounds fatties.

  2. Get the vax which does absolutey NOTHING except lessen severity or hide symptoms if you do get covid, and with 100% certainty you just signed yourself up for any and all short, medium and long term adverse effects from and experimental gene therapy with no longitudinal studies, that produces a pathogenic spike protein with no way to signal it to turn off.

I know what my choice is.

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Omnes_Omnibus 1 point ago +1 / -0

I agree wholeheartedly, except that you are leaving out a couple considerations. I think it is our duty as free and patriotic citizens to stand against tyranny wherever it is, including and especially in our own country. So I think you have to weigh your personal risk against taking a stand against the Left and the government COERCING the population to take a vaccine, follow a program, generally do something against their will unconstitutionally. If it were found that the vaccine was magical and you are at extremely high risk for whatever reason, I would advise that you take it. But if you have only a moderate or low risk of dying, it is worth incurring that risk to fully stand for our freedoms and against the government, the Democrats, the Left, and any petty tyrants telling us what to do.

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nutup_orshutup 2 points ago +2 / -0

Agree, fully informed, risk-based decisions.

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Litterboxer1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah this poster is a mong. Quit this embarrassing shit.

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Bonami 13 points ago +15 / -2

The vaccines are not worthless, they are the real bioweapon, the virus was just the hype. Rand needs to go after the vaccines horrific kill and maim statistics and get them shut down. He is a brave man, I hope he is brave enough to take them on. Back him if he does Pedes!!!

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Anaconda -2 points ago +8 / -10

fuck rand paul. where the fuck was he on all of this vaxx/lockdown/virus shit prior to 1/20/21?

he did jack shit to help out trump and he also VOTED FOR BIDEN ON 1/6!!!

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Bonami 9 points ago +10 / -1

He is what he is, in this case he is dogging Fauci so if he can step up that game it is all to the good.

Face it, no other member of congress is doing anything

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-jjjjjjjjjj- 10 points ago +12 / -2

This is how I knew for sure COVID was a scam. Its a coronavirus and we know from a century of study that immunity to coronaviruses like the flu is fairly long lasting and even if it fades reinfections are almost always less severe.

Yet, right from the outset the powers that be were pushing a narrative of reinfection and fleeting or even no immunity after recovery from COVID. Couple that with the bullshit stories of "long COVID" and people suffering symptoms for months.

This was all designed to make sure the virus didn't peter out before the election and before they could use it to justify their great reset agenda. There's a reason we've never had a pandemic in 100 years. Its because viruses don't spread that readily and immunity builds quickly. The only way it could happen is by manmade design. Both of the virus itself and of the structure to spread it and keep it spreading.

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War_Hamster 10 points ago +10 / -0

Which also explains throwing infected people into nursing homes and pretending the PCR tests were accurate.

"Testing testing testing" Nancy shoved down our throats daily. Gotta get those "case numbers" up.

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War_Hamster 4 points ago +6 / -2

About the only good thing that came from this is people finally started washing their hands. Of course, they took that one too far as well.

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Liberty4All 6 points ago +6 / -0

Well, one other good thing is that people quit coming to work while running a fever, having the runs, or coughing, sneezing and touching everything with their snotty hands. And people quit sending their sick kids to school or daycare to get everyone else’s kids sick. Because workplaces, schools, and daycares got really strict about sending sick people home. (Too much so, with ridiculously long quarantines.)

I don’t know if society can find a happy medium after people finally realize that rona is over. Or maybe we’ll go back to the culture of thinking it’s somehow brave or virtuous to show up sick.

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Canuck4Trump2020 6 points ago +6 / -0

When I heard her say " testing testing testing " my attenae went straight up and later when it came out they jacked up the CT number to get case infections up I thought how evil these scumbags are....couple that with HCQ being vilified and censored by big tech and now the Fauci lies, the manipulation was has left blood on their hands

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HuggableBear 1 point ago +2 / -1

we know from a century of study that immunity to coronaviruses like the flu is fairly long lasting and even if it fades reinfections are almost always less severe

You have this backwards. Immunity to coronaviruses is fairly short-lived. Immunity to influenza strains is indeed long, but coronaviruses have relatively short immunity periods. That's one of the reasons we as humans are so susceptible to the common cold and why it's impossible to make a vaccine for it.

Coronavirus is not influenza. It's a very different virus genus. It's much less severe, frankly, but immunity doesn't last long, generally just a year or two.

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Norwegianskier 8 points ago +9 / -1

They are not worthless. Big pharma makes billions. Amazing profit

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Snooptwo 8 points ago +10 / -2

I’d love a link to this study for my employer when they attempt to require me to get the Jab.

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RobHatmaker [S] 3 points ago +4 / -1

I’ll see if I can locate the Cleveland Clinic study Senator Paul is referencing.

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diCenturion 3 points ago +3 / -0

Be prepared pedes. I was caught off guard with this very situation when I started my new job. My employer is requiring vaccine AND I WILL NOT BE TAKING IT.

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247MAGA 3 points ago +3 / -0

Exemptions are a thing- print out the legal responses from Frontline doctors. Hope all find the resources to fight this because we must fight this.

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PapaPepe 7 points ago +8 / -1

So asymptomatic means you got a natural vaccine. Aka the immune system

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Stanwyk74 4 points ago +4 / -0

Had Covid. No vaccine. Doctor pushing it.

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MAGA_Argent_Crusade 4 points ago +4 / -0

Could healthy, lean, young people have "COVID parties" to get the illness over with so they can make antibodies? Sort of like how people had "chicken pox parties"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pox_party

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RobHatmaker [S] 3 points ago +4 / -1

Good question. Maybe they knew we could decimate covid quickly and locked us down to prolong the illness to the general election

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SkeletorsTeeth 3 points ago +4 / -1

When even the medical community at large is brainwashed in to taking them...you know things are screwed

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Anaconda 0 points ago +3 / -3

military soon will be endorsing it and mandating it. the military is the canary in the coal mine and always used as social experiments before use in civilians.

if the military mandates everybody to get the 'vaxx' or be fired/discharged then it will be widespread everywhere.

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nutup_orshutup 2 points ago +3 / -1

My son is in the military and he was told last week they would begin mandatory shots in the coming months.

I told him take the Dishonorable Discharge before getting a shot. We can the DD expunged later but we can’t bring him back from the dead if he is one of the vax casualties.

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Mythnutbill 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't mean to pry, but which branch is he in? I have my eyes and ears open and am hyper alert for news on military and the status of mandatory Rona shots.

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nutup_orshutup 1 point ago +1 / -0

USMC Okinawa

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PraiseBeToScience 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'd be a little more smug about this if I ever actually got a Covid test when I had it, but I was one of the handful of 'Patient Zeroes' back before we even knew it was in the US.

Late December/early January, I got knocked out with a pretty hard cold. Recovered a few days later. Worst cold I ever had, I slept for like 18 hours a day for three days straight.

Obviously tests didn't exist yet. Got an antibody test and was positive for them.

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Fuck_The_NWO 3 points ago +5 / -2

Well that's because the vaccine was designed to protect the human race from idiots not to protect the idiots from covid.

When they start dropping dead in the next year and are unable to reproduce I'll be thanking the people who designed it.

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Republic_or_Nothing 0 points ago +5 / -5

ppl are not going to start dropping dead.lol Maybe other side effects though. I you realize how fucked we would be if they did start dropping dead. pretty much every person in the medical field was pressured in getting vaccinated. They were the first wave.

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President_Elect_Pepe 5 points ago +5 / -0

To be fair each claim here seems to have equal weight.

Neither of you know what event could happen but each of you make the same claim that something could.

So I’m not sure how you additionally claim to know that people will not die.

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Liberty4All -1 points ago +1 / -2

Some people here seem to be gleefully anticipating all of the vaccinated people dropping dead. It’s ghoulish.

Like you said, we would be royally f’d s as a society if there was a rapid ~40% drop in population. Food production, energy production, manufacturing, transportation, infrastructure maintenance, law enforcement, the medical system (vaccination rates are very high among the medical profession), and all other systems of society would break down.

A gradual decrease in population still causes problems, but be managed. A massive sudden drop in population causes chaos.

It’s also morally repugnant to cheer at the prospect of millions of innocent people dying as result of being lied to by the authorities they trusted.

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247MAGA 2 points ago +2 / -0

Most hipsotala are 50-60% vaccinated bro. It's not as high as u might imagine. Plus I bet there's a fair bit of yes I was vaccinated wink wink (into the sink the shot goes)

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Liberty4All 0 points ago +1 / -1

Maybe I’m wrong, but I suspect that there aren’t that many “into the sink the shot goes” vaccination frauds available for average people. That requires the shot provider to be in on it, which puts them at risk for prosecution for insurance/Medicare/Medicaid fraud and loss of their license for false reporting to the state. (Celebs and politicians are a different matter.)

Most of the “yes, I’m vaccinated, wink wink” claims are in the form of fake vaccination cards. Those don’t affect the state data.

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nutup_orshutup 2 points ago +2 / -0

If the goal is 90% global depopulation then this is acceptable. Context matters.

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worldowedexplanation 1 point ago +1 / -0

Entirely possible they were given a placebo shot.

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Cemlub 3 points ago +3 / -0

Why do we need to rediscover how virus and immune systems work?

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honkskillet 2 points ago +4 / -2

That’s not what the study says, OP. It is saying surviving COVID offers the same immunity as having had the vaccine. Thus, survivors shouldn’t be vaccinated.

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Pelosi_Halitosis 2 points ago +2 / -0

I can't even remember how many times I've had The Coof, because I've never been tested.

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UrTVisLying2U 2 points ago +3 / -1

Welp, found the next person to be banned on twit and FB. Sorry, Mr. Paul. We don't allow scientific evidence that blows up the narrative.

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sir_rockness 2 points ago +2 / -0

Can I rely on my sleek, muscled, white body and full head of hair instead of the vaccine?

I've heard the lack of melanin gives us spiritual privileges on this planet.... some guy named "Jakob" discovered it or something.

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1776ThereIsaidIt 2 points ago +2 / -0

3 of us in our household had some weird upper respiratory shit for 3 days in early April 2020. It was more annoying than anything. It was probably the WuFlu. Stick your vaccines up your ass.

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Homemade-Soap 2 points ago +3 / -1

Certified the stolen election. No amount of calling bullshit on Fauci is going to make up for it. Fuck Rand Paul. He can suck a million dicks in a row.

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TheWinningNeverStops 0 points ago +1 / -1

B-But he's based he Has InTegrItY!!!!

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Pumpitrealgood 2 points ago +2 / -0

the vaccines are not worthless, they will cause disease or death within 12-24 months, and whoever survives will be sterile or infertile, BIG SUCCESS

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Formerlurker92 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hundreds dead and thousands maimed for nothing

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redstampede 2 points ago +4 / -2

This doesn't mean the vaccines are worthless, just that they're worthless if you already had the Chinese virus.

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chuckachookah 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is somehow racist, I'm sure, right?

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irescreams 2 points ago +3 / -1

Because covid disappeared within weeks of being let out. Coronavirus exist but not of any consequence, all we saw was the demonizing of a flu virus

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Anaconda -4 points ago +1 / -5

nice try xi jinping cocksucker. you will next say 'xi jinping dindu nuffin' and say we need to blame DA JOOOOOZ, not the chicoms

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GameStonks 1 point ago +2 / -1

If you're already immune, a vaccine just gives you extra autism.

It doesn't mean the vaccine doesn't provide immunity if you haven't had covid.

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Jmradioman 1 point ago +2 / -1

The cdc is hoping to hold the world hostage until 75% of Americans are vaccinated. There most recent statement was about teens being hospitalized.

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Smashley 1 point ago +2 / -1

This statement/position by Paul is brilliant. It’s true for one thing and goes with just about everything we’ve ever learned. If this vaccine really is super bad, he just also saved a shitload of people potentially. It fucks the entire plan of a needle in every arm which has huge implication$ ;)

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patriot68 1 point ago +1 / -0

This would be somewhat consistent with the Tel Aviv University study showing that of 400 vaccinated and positive patients, and 400 unvaccinated and positive patients, the incidence in the first group of the South African variant was 8 times greater. This hints to the actual intent of the vaccine, which is to sabotage a healthy immune system to allow any variant free rein. This provides plausible deniability to the vaccine manufacturers as those deaths will happen many months after the inoculation.

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TrumpChampBelt 1 point ago +1 / -0

The Democrat shitters wanted to be in control of the vax release so they could lord it over everyone and never create one because they don't work anyway. GEOTUS outplayed them again by warpspeeding the "vaccine" which turns out to be dangerous but much less dangerous than our own corrupt government.

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Jleinf 1 point ago +1 / -0

So the smart move is to get early treatment, which reduces the severity of infection by 70%,and acquire real immunity to the Chyna virus

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Flipakademsarepedos 1 point ago +1 / -0

😂😂😂 we called it!

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Staatssicherheit 1 point ago +3 / -2

Re-infection. As in they already had covid. Vaccines should not be given to people who have already developed immunity to covid. How the heck did you get "vaccines are worthless" from Rand Paul's tweet?

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rowdyraider 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sauce: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2

Study is not yet peer reviewed though.

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TGNX 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thousand dollar placebo.

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YodaBannon 1 point ago +2 / -1

Yeah but magnetic nipples

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ausglitsch 1 point ago +1 / -0

not all reinfections are the same

fair point from my preferred standard bearer in 2016, but asymptomatic reinfection vs. non-lethal reinfection vs. a 3-gun defense rather than a 20-gun defense is completely worthy of consideration here

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DoesItWorkAlready 2 points ago +2 / -0

Now see what reinfection from Dengue gets you (including reinfection after Dengue vaccine).

TL;DR - deadly.

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ausglitsch 1 point ago +1 / -0

that's a completely different vector

how are these even modestly comparable- especially with a novel vaccine delivered in record time vs. one that's been established for nearly a century?

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DoesItWorkAlready 2 points ago +2 / -0

For Rona, we simply "do not know" esp. in regards to the vaccines.

Here's what we do know:

We do know that corona viruses cause about 20% of all symptoms we call "The Cold", (Rhinoviruses the other 80%).

We also know that there's no cure for thee common cold, it mutates too quickly.

We're only about 4 months into the vaccination. The time frame for figuring these things out is measured in years.

We doo know that the vaccine produces exactly one antiobody that is not the same as the antibodies (plural) that the actual virus produces

W

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ausglitsch 1 point ago +1 / -0

i won't be getting the vaccine for at least 5 years. it'll be interesting to see if the doomsayers are right about an overwhelming prevalence of cytokine storm/unchecked production of spike proteins which would hypothetically cause massive die-offs within the vaccinated population

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Desktop 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's "Great news" only if your one of the people in the study who got covid and did not take the shot. Because you get to live.

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TheWinningNeverStops 1 point ago +2 / -1

FUCK RAND PAUL!

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itsdangerous 1 point ago +1 / -0

actually this mean the vaccine works. well unless people who didnt get covid dont get infected at a higher rate either in which case it just means thst everything is bullshit, which i guess is the case

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dagoat4l 0 points ago +1 / -1

Got my vaccine all natural. Worked well for me. How you like that you Chinese bastards. Dont get the shot guys. Somethings up with this shit.

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NotAnotherNPC 0 points ago +2 / -2

Soo its not saying it's worthless... its saying that it's providing equal protection as if you got the virus naturally. For those of us who haven't contracted the virus, a vaccine prevents the infection.

Remember, it's the TRUMP VACCINE, not biden's.

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Santa_Liqueur 2 points ago +2 / -0

Trump wasn't involved in any of the actual development, and the mRNA vaccine has been tried--multiple times--without passing FDA approval. If that fact bothers you, and makes you hesitant to take it because clinical trials for a vaccine like this have never been successful, then it doesn't matter whose administration pushed it. It's not more better just because you like the guy, nor worse if you don't.

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NotAnotherNPC 1 point ago +1 / -0

My point about Trump was simply that it was him pushing it to be developed. Biden and Fauci want to take credit and some people are discrediting the vaccine for that reason alone.
My original point. OP was saying it's worthless. I'd agree if we were only speaking about those who already had gotten over COVID and maintaining adequate titer levels.
I'm fully onboard with someone knowing WTF they're injecting into their body before making the decision. I'm fully aware it's under emergency use auth., not FDA approval.
However, keep in mind that the FDA is another government organization that can be abused (Oh look we can make them approve it) similarly like the Postal Office doing investigations outside what you would expect them to do (deliver mail).

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Santa_Liqueur 1 point ago +1 / -0

Boy that's a nuanced and complex argument you actually didn't make the first time.

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NotAnotherNPC 0 points ago +1 / -1

Yeah, my initial post was skimpy summary on how I feel. Most of my posts don't get answered so I've learned to not get too deep in them lol...

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worldowedexplanation 1 point ago +1 / -0

For those of us who haven't contracted the virus, a vaccine prevents the infection.

No it doesn’t, and the CDC tells you you can still get Covid after being vaccinated.

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NotAnotherNPC 1 point ago +1 / -0

The vaccine has a percentage rate for chance of infection. That's the same deal with ANY vaccine. They're not a guarantee you won't get a virus. The point of them is to get your immune system a step ahead of the virus so your immune cells and antibodies can fight it off.

For those who got COVID, they can get it again if their immune system doesn't keep up high enough titer levels. Neither the vaccine nor getting COVID is guaranteed you won't get it again.

My only point... is that we shouldn't discount a vaccine because Biden is President and Fauci is promoting it. However, what Paul said makes absolute sense in that if you have the vaccine, you should still have active immunity to the level that you would with a vaccine and that pushing vaccines on people who had COVID (like him) is utterly rediculous.

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PierreDelecto2020 -2 points ago +2 / -4

No. That is not what the tweet is about shithead.

If you had COVID its the same as the shot. Not "vaccines are worthless". If you don't want this one... more power to you. But to say vaccines are worthless shows your a dumb cunt.

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RobHatmaker [S] 4 points ago +5 / -1

The vaccines are worthless if you’ve already had covid. I linked the study, suck a cock....

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PierreDelecto2020 1 point ago +3 / -2

Not what your title said faggot.

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RobHatmaker [S] -2 points ago +2 / -4

I don’t care what you took from the title. I post content, you use any discernment you MAY have to form a conclusion. Sound good, shortstack?

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PierreDelecto2020 1 point ago +4 / -3

Now you argue semantics. HA Get fucked pansy. Change the title like the good little bitch you are.

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RobHatmaker [S] -2 points ago +2 / -4

You know you can’t edit titles, right? It’s almost as if you don’t know what you’re talking about, and I’m sure I’m right.

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PierreDelecto2020 -1 points ago +2 / -3

So you tried... Who was right?

Go upstairs and feed your mom's cats cunt.

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RobHatmaker [S] 0 points ago +2 / -2

Thoughtful, hard hitting response. I bet you wore out your grandma’s thesaurus formulating it. You probably had Aunt Bess coach you through it. I can appreciate the teamwork involved in that masterpiece. Sweet dreams, boot face!

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worldowedexplanation 1 point ago +1 / -0

It’s “you’re.” Back to first grade and try again.