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Riolinda 14 points ago +19 / -5

It’s is an idealistic/defeatist position, but I understand the emotion behind it.

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Starseed 8 points ago +10 / -2

I dont understand the emotion behind it at all. We only have three choices. 1. Vote them out and force them to expose themselves cheating. 2. Dont vote, they win without cheating and they are legitimately in power. 3. Armed insurrection.

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Xuvial 6 points ago +6 / -0
  1. Vote them out and force them to expose themselves cheating.

We already did this and won the vote by a landslide. They were fully exposed cheating with mountains of irrefutable evidence. None of it mattered to them, and they took the government anyway.

  1. Armed insurrection.

Sounds good!

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10R1440 1 point ago +1 / -0

None of it mattered to them, and they took the government anyway.

With the consent of the governed, presumably.

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Starseed 0 points ago +1 / -1

Keep repeating 1 and never shut up about evidence until the normies wake up or organize #3 yourself. Nobody is going to do that on this site.

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ALargeRock 4 points ago +4 / -0

Issue for many is if the vote in 2020 was stolen, what is the expected outcome of more thievery?

If you get away with stealing, you will do it again. Especially at the level of what was stolen.

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MerlynTrump 0 points ago +1 / -1

But state legislatures are taking steps to fix the problems that occurred in 2020.

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Starseed 0 points ago +1 / -1

Then we will have to continuously force their hand until enough people wake up. Also organize on a local level and force corrupt voting machines out yourself. Again its either that, you stop voting and give up and watch the planet rot around you, or organize an armed insurrection.

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mcoulton 2 points ago +2 / -0

remember the 4 boxes?

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Starseed 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yep i do. But that last box relies on mass organization which nobody seems willing to do. Trump thinks its not necessary, i trust trump

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Assassin47 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's because they don't understand the methods of cheating and exactly where and how they were deployed, and how they are defeatable. Election fraud isn't a binary thing.