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y_do_i_need_to_hide 6 points ago +6 / -0

I agree except for their rights. Citizens have rights, and government and other citizens do not have any say in that.

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FreeSpeechMaster 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, but I believe that you only have rights, if you love the country you are a citizen of. If you denegrate or disparage your country, you do that to all of it, including it's laws.

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Gesirisi 5 points ago +5 / -0

This is a dangerous concept too. The jingo patriotism. For example after 911 many said if you don't support the wars overseas you weren't patriotic. I admit I refused to stand for the anthem several times over the last two decades because i view our government as a criminal entity. But I always loved our COUNTRY, the ideals. Anyway, all I ask is to not conflate loving the country with respecting the government. Im not saying you were, but many people do along the line if thinking you just described.

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FreeSpeechMaster 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh, for SURE! I don't believe anyone on this site, that is a true patriot, respects government. I detest them.

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y_do_i_need_to_hide 3 points ago +3 / -0

I might agree in principle, but I can't agree in practice. As soon as you allow the government that wiggle room, they'll be calling us white supremacists. Who is to decide who loves this country and who does not? I showed up on January 6th unarmed, to protest about voting rights. The fake president called me a terrorist.