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sustainable_saltmine 105 points ago +106 / -1

"asymptomatic spread" in anything is 100% weapons-grade HORSE SHIT.

You can't spread something you don't have symptoms for. viruses live in secretions, sweat, saliva and mucus. You are not exhaling a spray of virus particles into the room. Sneezing, coughing? perhaps, if there is actual mucus being sprayed but you're not continuously spraying virus particles dry into the air.

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IncredibleMrE1 50 points ago +51 / -1

How dare you spread such anti-science lies. You are sick until proven healthy, prole! No go make me a cucumber sandwich, and make sure to cut the crust off!

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ripley88 2 points ago +2 / -0

"Have you heard Oswalt's latest bon mot? It's all the rage in the salons."

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TrudopesEyebrow [S] 48 points ago +48 / -0

Exactly. It’s the sinister lie that was the justification to strip away constitutional rights.

No fever, no cough, no sneeze, no droplets = No symptoms, no viral load = no disease, no transmission.

Quarantining the young and HEALTHY to protect the sick is insane.

Forcing healthy kids with No Symptoms and No viral load to smother their nose and mouth and prevent oxygenation is evil.

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NonyaDB 15 points ago +15 / -0

Exactly. Symptoms are the body fighting a virus and expelling it from the body.
No symptoms, no virus being expelled from the body. It will eventually come out that all these "positive tests" from people that showed no symptoms were part of a cash grab and then a rash of "suicides" will follow.

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dakin116 10 points ago +10 / -0

PCR scam, look up reiner fuellmich

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acasper 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yup, some German guy came up with the testing protocol and it was adopted by the WHO even though it violates guidelines for PCR testing published by the device manufacturers themselves.

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Fistmagic 3 points ago +4 / -1

Fullmich is the Dr. calling covid a scam. The inventor of PCR testing is Kary Mullis, an American, who died in 2019. This took about 30 seconds to look up.

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Fistmagic 4 points ago +5 / -1

I've never been responded to so rationally.

Acasper might be referencing a different German guy but I can't find any info about that.

He could be right but I wouldn't blame Germany. Like America they are a globohomo conquered nation.

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dakin116 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yea I meant fuellmich was involved in a global effort to prove the PCR fraud

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anotherthing 6 points ago +8 / -2

This would depend on the individual and their actions. So, you have the koof, right? You don't know it because you have no symptoms. Are you sharing food or drinks with other people? Do you have allergies, a smoker, or something else that causes you to sneeze, cough, and so on? Do you pick your nose and not wash your hands afterwards? There's several ways you could spread it without showing symptoms. The obvious aside, is it the strain you have that causes you to be asymptomatic or something about you? If it's the strain which has no symptoms or severely weak symptoms, who gives a shit if you're spreading it? Thank your asymptomatic friends for giving you non-threatening immunity. Honestly, that's the real vaccine.

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Trump_Underground 2 points ago +2 / -0

It has more to do with the health of people's innate immune systems. People with unhealthy immune systems, the old, the immunosuppressed, diabetics, fat people etc, have weak innate immune responses, so the virus replicates and they show symptoms. So instead of government bringing up logical things, like how to be healthier, they closed gyms and forced people inside, and made them depressed and alcoholics. The absolute opposite of what they should have done. You cannot prevent the spread of viruses, especially airborne respiratory viruses.

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anotherthing 3 points ago +3 / -0

I agree with you. Not only that, but they shut down small businesses and funneled everyone in to big box stores.

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RUFishing 1 point ago +1 / -0

And don't forget they condensed the hours of operation so everyone had to go at the same time.

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anotherthing 1 point ago +1 / -0

I remember grocery stores having special hours for seniors so they didn't have to go to the store with as many people. I shopped once a week, got a week's worth of food during the times I was allowed(I'm not a senior). I remember seeing boomers shopping for the day like always using those little baskets every time I was in there. It got pretty annoying.

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acasper 2 points ago +2 / -0

That and medicines to use as prophylaxis in high risk populations and to treat critically ill patients. There’s a reason Hydroxychloroquine got such a bad rap and Ivermectin is getting censored off the main platforms at this point.

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vongregormench 3 points ago +3 / -0

Isn't the spike protein on the virus too?

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SilverStarv5 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes

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acasper 2 points ago +2 / -0

Are there any studies regarding the spike protein shedding?

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acasper 3 points ago +3 / -0

Oh man, I guess I’ll bow to your indisputable logic. Peg me daddy.

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acasper 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, my original comment was meant as both a joke and as a serious question regarding any studies that may be taking place. People here do throw around that Pfizer document, including the bullshit edited version, with abandon as “proof” of their belief. I agree that science has been a joke for quite awhile (lack of replication primarily) and this has been the nail in the coffin of my trust in most institutions who sell themselves as practitioners of science. Scientific Method still going strong though.

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acasper 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thanks!

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acasper 4 points ago +4 / -0

In all seriousness, there is no organized data that I’ve seen regarding spike protein shedding. There are a lot of assertions and anecdotes, but I’d like to see a big bucket of anecdotes in a trial. The truly nefarious act is the suppression of funding for adversarial research and replication. That’s the downfall of the scientific method.

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acasper 3 points ago +3 / -0

You got a study for that assertion mate?

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mrpguy 25 points ago +25 / -0

I had some idiot on Reddit telling me that if you are vaccinated and get COVID (which he admitted was possible), then the outcome is statistically MUCH worse. He said you are FAR MORE likely to get hospitalized or die.

Idiot because in the same paragraph he was arguing that everybody should get vaccinated.

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booblitchutz 9 points ago +9 / -0

Nobody knows that right now, that's all speculation.

The coof is just a mundane respiratory virus, folks.

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vongregormench 4 points ago +5 / -1

I have not read that it's statistically worse. If it is statistically worse then there might be a reason for that. Correlation isn't necessarily causation.

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Foreign_Aid_is_Theft 4 points ago +4 / -0

One could be that those that are breakthrough is selection bias. Healthier people with strong healthy immune systems may be less likely to get a breakthrough case and therefore it's a bad sample set to begin with.

But that also means that only good health and a strong immune system are a good defense against COVID. The vaccine doesn't do anything if you can't develop an immune response in the first place.

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acasper 3 points ago +3 / -0

The whole data set is polluted by the changes in testing protocols. It’s going to take years to unravel all the intricacies.

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Pepesforfreedom 18 points ago +18 / -0

I’m not taking an experimental gene therapy to “help” anyone else. I see it as Russian roulette with my health. I could be fine. I could die, have a stroke, neurological problems, reproductive issues, cancer, heart problems, no one really knows because long term is a mystery. The whole world ended and people are still suffering because we tried to “help” other people.

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acasper 3 points ago +3 / -0

And that’s if you think it’s just untested technology lol.

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Kyle1164 3 points ago +3 / -0

100% my thoughts.

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Gnometard 17 points ago +17 / -0

"Now"

That was their original claim.

Then they said it granted immunity..... but all the articles came out about people who are "vaxxed" getting the wuflu.... so we're back to just reduction in symptoms.

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45fan 6 points ago +6 / -0

There's a reason there's never been a cure for the common cold. Almost all respiratory diseases spend their time in your respiratory track where mucus and macrophages fight the infection. There's no antibodies there. Giving us antibody responses would only matter if the disease got to your bloodstream, which it would rarely do.

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acasper 3 points ago +3 / -0

One of the reasons that Ivermectin may be showing efficacy as it is concentrated by your body in those same locations.

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TrumpAndGodWin 2 points ago +2 / -0

The cold virus mutates too much to make vaccines for it.

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zooty 2 points ago +2 / -0
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BegrudgingBrit 17 points ago +17 / -0

There was never asymptomatic spread, only false positive tests

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JS_Mill 4 points ago +4 / -0

Essentially zero flu cases. Anyone more informed than me know is the flu could be seen as the China flu in tests?

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Kweebecker 3 points ago +3 / -0

You spread an asymptomatic variant! Now twenty people are going to catch the asymptomatic variant and have no symptoms! It's going to spread everywhere with no one showing any change in their life and it's all your fault!

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acasper 3 points ago +3 / -0

Accurate.

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Super_Dave 14 points ago +14 / -0

Imagine if the polio vaccine only "reduced the symptoms" of polio...

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vongregormench 5 points ago +5 / -0

wouldn't you want it to reduce the symptoms though?

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booblitchutz 12 points ago +12 / -0

Yes, you get "light" polio and then fall over dead from a stroke.

GREAT SUCCESS!

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Super_Dave 7 points ago +7 / -0

If it's a treatment? Sure.

If it's a vaccine? It should be immunity.

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powershellder 5 points ago +5 / -0

Polio is already 95%+ asymptomatic, with another 4.5% only experiencing mild flu-like symptoms.

Polio vaccine is its own scam. They redefined what could be classified as polio once the vaccine was released. Sound familiar?

It also spreads through fecal contamination. Modern sanitation does the job.

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TrumpAndGodWin 2 points ago +2 / -0

And I heard a theory about removing tonsils or operating on the throat leading to much worse polio results.

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Ryan_ 8 points ago +8 / -0

Don’t forget to get your yearly COVID Vaccine!

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acasper 6 points ago +6 / -0

*every six months

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TrumpAndGodWin 3 points ago +3 / -0

*5 to 10 or more according to Gates and Alex

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TrumpAndGodWin 2 points ago +2 / -0

Homer Simpson selling his soul for a donut meme

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Skywise 12 points ago +12 / -0

Yup!

My point of reference for all of this has been the 1918 Spanish Flu which was far more virulent and deadly and it ended 18 months after it was declared - which is Labor Day of this year here.

The opinions of our esteemed “learned people” have been utter garbage and contradictory to known and established science for decades. (EG political statements) But this should be obvious because they only make edicts and not the rationale of WHY they’re making the edicts. In a free country your leadership explains the knowledge behind the decision making. This has not happened - at all for this entire pandemic and, obviously, any actual debate has been squashed - something else that’s a red flag in a free society.

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Saltyminer11 12 points ago +12 / -0

I'll never get the vaccine. Because its toxic. But if I did consider it I would remember all the times the goalposts has been moved. First uts 2 shots, thenits 4 shots then its monthly shots. Then its weekly ones with lockdown and mask mandates. TWO WEEKS TO FLATTEN THE CURVE. RIGHT.

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Kweebecker 2 points ago +2 / -0

"Two weeks to flatten the curve" has always meant you get your injections every two weeks, comrade.

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Saltyminer11 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm starting to figure that out. They're gonna have to wait. Mines gonna go bad in the syringe

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Cyberpunkd 10 points ago +10 / -0

They are so full of shit, it's not even funny. SO many of these pieces of crap should be hanged over this.

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vongregormench 9 points ago +9 / -0

I have yet to see any proof that there is asymptomatic spread. If someone has a source that shows asymptomatic spread I would like to see it.

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WarViper1337 6 points ago +6 / -0

Asymptomatic spread of viral disease is almost non existent. Now bacteria is another story and there are many well documented cases of people who for whatever reason are carriers of contagious bacterias while having no outward signs of being sick or contagious. Typhoid Marry is a classic example.

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logicallyevil 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well, bacteria are entirely different creature and are actually alive, so they have that going for them in their ability to survive on/in a host without showing symptoms.

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Kweebecker 1 point ago +1 / -0

Typhoid Mary picked her ass then prepped food without washing her hands. Asymptomatic spread requires "spread" still. It doesn't spontaneously form in nearby people. If she just washed her hands after shoving them up her rear, her "legend" wouldn't exist, because that would have been enough to stop the spread.

If you're hanging with people who don't regularly explore the inside of their own body with their hands then not wash, it doesn't really matter WHAT they may have, you ain't likely getting it.

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GreatNW 5 points ago +5 / -0

I've been searching high and low for the past year.

I've discussed with a couple of ICU doctors and nobody knows of even a single documented case of asymptomatic spread of CV-19.

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ThurstonHowell3rd 5 points ago +5 / -0

There was a study done in China and out of 10M Chinese there were no cases of asymptomatic transmission.

"Asymptomatic Spread Revisited"

If your goal is to continue locking down the country and making people miserable in an election year though, the ruse of asymptomatic spread works wonders.

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Smurfection 5 points ago +5 / -0

Just more indication that this was a plandemic.

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acasper 5 points ago +5 / -0

I’ve tried explaining this to my family and they just have blank stares for the most part. Makes me sad.

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Dev404 4 points ago +4 / -0

It's like there's no science and it's all propaganda, but daddy government never lies and never cheats and never kills its constituents, right? Right. Good luck with the injections.

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DestroyerofCobwebs 4 points ago +4 / -0

Medicine is a racket.

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TrumpAndGodWin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Money making and using humans as Guinea pigs to help the elite find ways to live longer etc.

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MythArcana 4 points ago +4 / -0

No, I've read numerous reports from real doctors writing articles even a year ago confirming the vax does jack shit regarding spreading and transmission. All it does is attempt to alleviate the symptoms by wrecking everything else in your system.

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Formerlurker92 4 points ago +4 / -0

And I'm using this. People are smart coming up with these things

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Annpi 3 points ago +3 / -0

Here's an idea.... how about ppl FEEL sick when they ARE sick so they stay home.... you know, like normal logical people

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TrumpAndGodWin 2 points ago +2 / -0

And at worst pay them to temporarily stay home because it's cheaper than destroying the economy with lockdowns.

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camaromatt22 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yep, ninja flu first if its kind. It was everywhere and attacked silently when you did not eat food while you went to a bar or did not wear a piece of cloth over your face when you stood from your table.

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cajun_robear 3 points ago +3 / -0

They're making this shit up as they go. Their lies are getting so convoluted that a pretzel seems straight in comparison. My confidence and trust in the medical profession is hovering at ZERO.

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penguinjay1212 3 points ago +3 / -0

ALL DOCTORS ARE FAGGOTS>

Exception: the few who clearly aren't

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webthing 3 points ago +3 / -0

🤡🌎

Don't listen to talking heads.

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Gyromancer 3 points ago +3 / -0

Any vaccine that only reduces symptoms will allow a more dangerous mutant to emerge.

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Pumpitrealgood 2 points ago +2 / -0

this entire covid travesty was a criminal racket shit-show from start to finish.

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ShampocalypseWOW 2 points ago +3 / -1

Pretty sure they said this from the beginning, but retards hesr the word "vaccine" and assume they are totally immune, which is why they call it "vaccine".

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Kweebecker 1 point ago +1 / -0

So you think they wouldn't call it that, then.

How about "The variants mean you're still gonna be in lockdown for eternity also it doesn't make you immune to the thing it supposedly immunizes you to shot" rather than "Vaccine shot"?

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Blackeye 2 points ago +2 / -0

I can’t think of the last time I heard of a mild case of polio or small pox…WTF

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raggedyman74 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fine, it reduces symptoms. Even less of reason to take it and force someone to take it.

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ComebackKing 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yep. I'll stick with my Ivermectin.

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Totally_Not_FBI 2 points ago +2 / -0

SCIENCE!

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HuntStevenson 2 points ago +2 / -0

The "pandemic" was made up to force jabs on people. Nothing else makes sense.

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SakaSouffle 2 points ago +2 / -0

Don't care at all what doctors say. Demand the data.

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idkfa 2 points ago +2 / -0

And even this (what the doctors are saying) is horseshit.
The reduction of symptoms is not one of the clinical trial's endpoints.
Period.
The endpoints are:

  1. getting COVID as per the FDA definition two weeks after the second shot;
  2. getting severe COVID;
  3. getting severe COVID after the second shot, two weeks after the second shot, and between first and second shots (I may be a bit of on how many weeks).

That's it.

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Slothboy 2 points ago +2 / -0

If it only reduces symptoms IT IS NOT A VACCINE

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MAGA_Argent_Crusade 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is probably true, but do we have more sauce than a tweet?

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onemoretimeagain22 1 point ago +1 / -0

yawn

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glasses2020 1 point ago +4 / -3

I had to explain for the billionth time last night that you can't spread something without symptoms, and that "symptoms" are a sign that your body is fighting something.

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ThurstonHowell3rd 2 points ago +2 / -0

There's a reason why these viruses affect your respiratory system. They have evolved over millions of years to infect a host and cause that host to spread the virus to others by coughing and sneezing (or with gastrointestinal virues, vomiting and splattering shit with diarrhea). The viruses that didn't cause the host to expel the contagious droplets died off and reached an end of line.

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Freeandbrown 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think I missed a knowledge dump a while ago - but what happened with asymptomatic spread of the spanish flu?

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PonySoldier66 1 point ago +1 / -0

I believe that only works if you BELIEVE it works. psy·cho·so·mat·ic /ˌsīkōsəˈmadik/ Learn to pronounce adjective adjective: psychosomatic

(of a physical illness or other condition) caused or aggravated by a mental factor such as internal conflict or stress.
"her doctor was convinced that most of Edith's problems were psychosomatic"
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TheTuckerDiaries 0 points ago +2 / -2

Covid is about as real as dinosaurs.

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vongregormench 2 points ago +2 / -0

China is responsible for releasing the virus. Also the virus is fake. FFS.

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TheTuckerDiaries 0 points ago +2 / -2

all the videos out of Wuhan, fake. “Variants of concern”, fake. The bio weapon is the jab itself. This time there was no virus. CCP must be dealt with absolutely but the real culprit is the UN/globalism.

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Dominion4UsAll -2 points ago +2 / -4

That's always been their stance, nothing new here.

I don't think I've ever seen them state that it stops infection, only that it reduces symptoms.

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ThurstonHowell3rd 2 points ago +2 / -0

The vaccine manufacturers made it pretty clear early on that the primary endpoint (goal) of the mRNA vaccines was to keep people out of the hospital and from dying by reducing the severity of the symptoms. When asked whether or not it would prevent spread they all said, "We're hopeful, but we don't know." and that's because they didn't spend enough time doing trials involving people to find out things like this.

Now the media and local governments/health depts have totally mislead people and stated that that everyone needs to take the vaccine to reduce the spread and get "back to normal", which is true horseshit. That is where a big part of the problem lies. And they never will admit that recovering from an infection gives you just as much immunity as any of these vaccines against COVID-19 and I have a pretty good idea why.

Watch the commercials during the evening news (any channel). About 20% of the ads are from pharmaceutical companies. No broadcasters is going to tell their viewers anything negative about a vaccine if that would affect the bottom line of their sponsors. Follow the money.

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Dominion4UsAll 1 point ago +1 / -0

Exactly, not sure why I'm being downvoted when you just proved my point.

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ThurstonHowell3rd 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's likely because of the messaging from local health depts and the MSM that's leading them astray. If they were to read the actual Emergency Use Authorization docs submitted to the FDA for the mRNA vaccines they'd know exactly what the vaccine manufactures' claims are.

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SentryS 1 point ago +1 / -0

Do you even .win?