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teleomorph 3 points ago +3 / -0

One of the vax, J&J I believe, is just the spikes and not mRNA. Still causes problems as the spikes are cytotoxic.

And the point of (normal) vaccines is get the body to make it's own antibodies, permanently. So just introducing antibodies doesn't work.

MemeForTheWin [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

also they used to give people transfusions to give them antibodies

HocusLocus 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is not true. J&J and AstraZeneca are same RNA experiential vaccines, same payload. Only difference is that they use a attenuated common cold / adenovirus to get the mRNA instructions into the cells. The same prefusion spike protein is produced by the body.

Pfizer and Moderna do not use the 'adenovirus vector' they use a 'lipid vector' in which an encapsulating lipid bubble passes through the cell wall to deliver the mRNA.

Perhaps you are thinking of NovaVax which contains actual spike protein fragments to train the immune system in the manner of traditional vaccines, and does NOT use mRNA to force the cells to manufacture them. (The comment section in the blog post above is an echo chamber of arrogant assholes but the article itself has good information)

teleomorph 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks for the clarification.

Devildtails 0 points ago +1 / -1

Antibodies aren’t effective population control measures. Don’t be a racist you bigot.