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acasper 43 points ago +45 / -2

Too bad that never stopped them before.

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Torrvarpen [S] 51 points ago +51 / -0

There has never before been a majority in a no confidence motion, Löfven has always managed to convince the commies to abandon their ideology just to keep the socialists in power. This time the commies refused to back down and stood up for their ideology, which means the end for the current 4 party minority government.

There are now two options, either a new election will be announced, or there will be no government until 2022, which means no more damage. You should have seen the media, they're going crazy, verbally attacking the V leader for refusing to bend over for the socialists. Who could have thought that a commie would end socialism.

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vote_for_MAGA_2020 30 points ago +30 / -0

It’s probably gonna go down like Britain. Boris Johnson got in promising to be pro-Britain conservative then all of a sudden reversed and started helping to push communism.

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Torrvarpen [S] 25 points ago +25 / -0

Jimme Åkesson is more like Nigel Farage than Boris. Ulf might be the Swedish version of Boris. I don't think they'll back down now after getting this far, Boris has never gotten attacked by the left, at least not as much as Farage or Åkesson.

Antifa physical attacks aside, it's next level harassment when even public service shuts of your mic or point a laser to your face to make it look like you're crying during an interview. Or a strong light to make you sweat. Or replace the green screen background with whatever the hell that was. It's so obvious that the whole establishment desperately tries to bully Åkesson, but he won't back down, he keep dropping red pills and call them out.

Åkesson on the other hand has been the leader for SD for over 20 years now and during all that time he's been constantly attacked by fake news leftist media, his got his home vandalized by antifa, they threaten to kill his family and so on, but never has he backed down.

SD is a young party that has been growing fast, there's no career politicians who only cares about power or their pension, these are people who want change and believe that it can be done. Over the years they've faced enormous resistance from the deep state but never backed down and always gained more support.

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acasper 18 points ago +18 / -0

I’ll be looking into this further in the near future. Seems comical.

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Torrvarpen [S] 27 points ago +27 / -0

It is comedy gold, MSM top journalists reacting like the crying libtards did when Trump won in 2016. And the fact that it was the commies who put the stick through the wheel is the most ironic part.

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680-EVIL 12 points ago +12 / -0

Let's hope the SD will be part of a new government to see the salt flow.

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Torrvarpen [S] 14 points ago +14 / -0

It's the likely scenario. They're prepared to work with M and KD.

The alternative would be a 5 party alliance with commies, socialists, environmentalists, libtards and centrists. I doubt that could ever work out in reality. They just had a disagreement which was the cause for this no confidence motion in the first place.

Someone would have to back down, and whoever backs down will be seen as the cuck who ignore their voters, or the party who only cares about staying in power at all cost. SD, M and KD would agree on most policies, particularly on the financial side where liberals and centrists will join in too. This means lower taxes and less wasted tax money on socialist BS.

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Tintenfass 7 points ago +7 / -0

Thank you for keeping us on this side of the pond informed. That is welcome news.

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Telcontar2020 8 points ago +8 / -0

Any disunity on their side is a joyful sight to behold.

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GunTottinPatriot 7 points ago +7 / -0

No matter what happens the Muslims will win, average Muslim family has 5+ kids, it’s just a matter of time until the country is officially named Swedistan kek

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Torrvarpen [S] 10 points ago +10 / -0

Socialist welfare is how they can afford to have that many kids, with SD in charge the Muslims get no free stuff and can't afford 5+ kids, they'll either starve or freeze to death. They will also get deported when committing crimes.

We're short on time, currently 20 years to go before there's a Muslim majority if nothing is done. An SD government this or next year would delay that by a lot, and in a few years reverse the trend.

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krzyzowiec 3 points ago +3 / -0

The true danger is that they become a large enough minority to form their own party. Then they can get the left to side with them and crush any conservative opposition. They will dominate long before they get a majority. Of course once they get a majority then you're totally doomed because they can just open the floodgates.

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Torrvarpen [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

There's already clear signs of them infiltrating the green party, a tiny 4% party which for some reason the socialists always bend over for. Some of them vote socialist too.

Luckily not all Muslims are united, there's different types of Muslims, different clans who hate each others. Hence all the bombings in Malmö lately. It has to go really far before they can get political majority and actually agree on stuff.

The biggest threat as of now is that they've taken over some neighborhoods in every major city and see them as their turfs, the no go zones. But on the plus sides, the conservative and nationalist parties are now open for the idea to use the military to take back those neighborhoods and deport anyone that's resisting. This was a big no-no under the socialist ruling.

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krzyzowiec 3 points ago +3 / -0

Oh that's good. I thought there would be a greater risk of them uniting under Islam simply to defeat the natives, but if they are too busy warring with each other than that buys you time.

The biggest threat as of now is that they've taken over some neighborhoods in every major city and see them as their turfs, the no go zones. But on the plus sides, the conservative and nationalist parties are now open for the idea to use the military to take back those neighborhoods and deport anyone that's resisting. This was a big no-no under the socialist ruling.

That's super interesting. I had no idea that such a conversation was even possible in Sweden. You don't know how glad it makes me to hear that. I would hate for Sweden to fall. I always thought that your country had a better shot at returning to sanity than a larger one like France simply because the danger of becoming overwhelmed is so apparent with such a small population. I would like to visit one day so I hope you guys are successful. God bless.

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Hollywoodspypede 4 points ago +4 / -0

There have never been criminal immigrant gangs on Strandvägen before.

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Torrvarpen [S] 33 points ago +34 / -1

Latest: Former prime minister Löfven and some other tops in the socialist party are now mad at the people, barking on live TV: "The swedes are idiots, they don't understand why the country must be ruled by socialism REEE".

Imagine calling the few potential voters you may have left "idiots" and then expect anyone to vote for you in the next election which is next year. The socialist party are a bunch of losers.

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CeruleanShadow 12 points ago +12 / -0

SD all the way. At least the Communists stood up for their principles. Obviously not one, but I can respect someone that has a principal, and refuses to yield. Paraphrasingly calling voters idiots is hardly likely to endear them to you, and have them vote for you, either. Arrogant prick. Have a look at "The Angry Foreigner", he's a Bosnian who fled to Sweden as a kid during the Balkan wars, and he is very based, very well-researched.

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Torrvarpen [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

At least the Communists stood up for their principles.

^^ This is why I too respect them, even if I disagree with their policies. Just look at traitor Pence, an excellent example of what happens when you don't stand by your principles.

Have a look at "The Angry Foreigner"

Checking his videos regularly. There's plenty of based alt media nowadays. Samnytt, Friatider, Nyheteridag, Nyatider, Samtiden just to mention a few. Radio Svegot, great pod too.

Flashback forum, great source of information and discussions about everything with true free speech.

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Whimpy13 6 points ago +6 / -0

Inb4 they introduce e-voting 'because corona' and Socialdemokraterna surges like Biden votes at 4 a.m.

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Torrvarpen [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

E-voting would fail miserably in Sweden. There's a deeply rooted transparency culture, if you don't play with open cards you got something to hide. Everyone knows this.

This would result in machines powered by GNU+Linux and 100% open source software. Any vulnerability would be open to the public and even the most extreme leftist would admit they where wrong when having the proof of fraud pressed up against their face.

ID is always checked during elections, however e-ID is a joke provided by the banks who are known to fuck people over, steal money from the old. You must also have the latest smartphone to even use it, not everyone can afford that.

Corona is also known to be a scam, nobody would buy that excuse to introduce electronic voting. They can't even sell in the "environmental" propaganda argument. Beside that most Swedes has observed the stolen election in the US.

It would take some serious propaganda to convince people into accepting e-voting, which is hard since almost nobody trust fake news media.

Add to that the fact that Socialdemokraterna has been going down a few percent every election since the 60%, they where once the biggest party. If they surge at 4am in the morning people would notice the obvious fraud.

We're used to have the results before midnight as paper votes are counted fast allover the nation. Nobody would buy the argument that electronic votes takes longer to count than paper votes, so if they tried to cheat that way it would be in front of everyone's eyes and clearly seen on live TV while everyone is watching.

There's currently 8 parties in government and about 54 in total. Fake votes would have to come from somewhere, can't steal from the smaller parties as they would notice because so few people vote for them. And if S goes up at 4am there's at least 8 other parties who would protest and investigate the fraud, even if S with their 20% think that fraud is ok as long as it benefits them.

As a last measure of security, personal information is public in Sweden, anyone could easily fetch data from sites like this: https://www.hitta.se/ or this https://eniro.se and instantly verify if there are more votes cast than the amount of people living in a certain district.

It has happened a few times, with a mismatch of 1-2 votes or so. Standard procedure is than to redo the election in that district. If they suddenly decide to not redo the election even after fraud is obviously exposed. It won't take long before those responsible are dipped in tar and throw into the chicken pen to get covered in feathers.

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Whimpy13 4 points ago +4 / -0

Tack för det långa svaret. I wish I could be as confident as you are about the state of things. Most people I work with swallow whatever lies the media tells them without second thought. :/

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Vershnik 3 points ago +3 / -0

Media go with painting SD as racists as usual

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HuntStevenson 18 points ago +18 / -0

This leaves Canada as the cuck capital of the World.

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4cdarth 9 points ago +9 / -0

"Your Highness. Senator Palpatine has been nominated to succeed Valorum as supreme chancellor."

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TexasPiper 7 points ago +7 / -0

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

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Hussar 6 points ago +6 / -0

I love democracy.

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4cdarth 4 points ago +4 / -0

I love the republic.

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Hussar 4 points ago +4 / -0

Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise?

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4cdarth 3 points ago +3 / -0

I thought not. It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you. It’s a Sith legend.

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hey_spike 6 points ago +6 / -0

Sweden, the darling of the american socialists, rejecting socialism. One can only hope.

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Farmerbob1 4 points ago +4 / -0

I suppose the Communists got tired of waiting for the Socialists and the other supporting parties to begin the shift into authoritarian mode, in order to properly transition to Communism.

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Torrvarpen [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

Or as the analyst so greatly put it. The communists are sick of being a door mat to the socialists. Keep in mind that the socialists are not in majority, they have about 20% of the votes and are currently in a 5 party alliance to even get close to what constitutes as "majority"

This alliance include socialists, communists (8%), environmentalists (5%), centrists (14%) and liberals (4%). These are parties that are natural enemies, particularly in the economic policies, and that's where it failed.

What we saw today was basically communists standing up for communism, while centrists where standing up for centrism and the socialists ended up in the middle and got completely fucked over.

No doubt that this will bring some additional support to the commies, but seeing that they only have 8% of the votes they'll never get close enough to majority to actually implement communism. Then again, Swedish communism isn't that much worse than Swedish socialism.

They're both awful ideologies but still very similar, yet they refuse to cooperate. All because the socialists are so desperate to stay in power that they work with centrists and liberals, two ideologies that differ a lot from socialism. All while pretending to distance themselves from the commies.

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Torrvarpen [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Nah it's not really that complicated. Imagine having a bunch of more parties in the US, take Bernies socialist party for instance and patriot party, no party has majority on it's own. It basically means that the representatives for every party 349 in total divided over say 4 parties, vote in every question. And there must be majority for the bill to pass.

This is pretty interesting as say old style socialists are traditionally against immigration, while democrats are pro immigration. That means no immigration since republicans and patriots will vote to close the border to, majority wins. Even if democrats might be the biggest party.

Also, the more parties, the harder it is to cheat your way to majority :)

Patriot party could pump out bills suggesting how to make America great again, and any fools voting against those would look really bad, unless they have a really good explanation. And most would pass, even if patriot party might only be the third largest party.

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Torrvarpen [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's true representative democracy, as it was meant to be. And if you look at Sweden, for the last 7 years there's been a minority socialist government, an alliance with literally 5 parties who can't agree on anything because they're allover the right-left scale.

Like a really old rubber boat that's leaking air, held together by ducttape only. And now the commies had enough of constantly being the one who has to apply more ducttape without getting any credit for it, so they basically removed it and the boat sank immediately.

7 years ago we had liberal/right government for 8 years with 4 parties, sounds good in theory but it had the same problem, it was an alliance of parties who can't agree on anything. It was also run by Reinfeldt, a literal circus clown. ? Honk honk ?

Simply put, last 15 years, the main stream parties both to the left and right has done everything in their power to keep the nationalist anti-deep state and anti globalist party out of influence. Meanwhile SD, the nationalist party has been growing rapidly every election.

They've been big enough to have actual influence for many years if it wasn't for the other power hungry parties locking them out. I guess no matter how the system works, socialists will find ways to cheat. and now when they failed they blame the people for "voting wrong", yes you heard it right, the socialists literally had a press conference on national TV where they barked at the people, called us stupid for not voting socialist ;-) Those faggots have no idea about how democracy works.

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krzyzowiec 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wait until the Muslims form their own minority party, and then the left minorities ally with them to crush conservatives every single time. It won't seem so good then.

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Seatacjoe 4 points ago +4 / -0

109 need to swing

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Torrvarpen [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

There's 349 slots in the parliament, 175 is required to win. 109 voted 'no' to keep the socialists in charge. 181 voted 'yes' to kick the socialists out. 59 did not participate in the vote. A minority of socialists can't do any damage.

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Seatacjoe 6 points ago +6 / -0

Thanks man, they still need to be on a ticket to Mars to sell their commie shit. 109 today, but with enough $$, it will be 176 in a year or two. Fuck commie scums

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ColonelWKurtz 3 points ago +3 / -0

Heja Sverige!

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YellowCrazyAnt 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is a bit bizarre by us standards. Socialists being taken down for proposing a half-asses market based reform.

For those interested, Sweden is not as socialist as Americans think. They are more free market in some areas to the point of letting some of their industry be taken advantage of by foreign competitors.

Culturally, lot in common with Americans, especially work ethic. The big cultural difference is their dependence on “consensus” which is the root of many of their problems. No one wants to be the “high nail.”

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MastaJoda 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sweden...the country with an all woman government?

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Torrvarpen [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

That's the feminist party who got into Stockholm municipality, which is 1 of 290 districts. But yea they like to brag about being the world first "feminist government", which is ironic considering that Stockholm is the rape capital of Europe. Basically, they fucked up, just as expected.

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gaijin_ronin 2 points ago +4 / -2

Ok and? Their country is completely lost. The only way for real Swedes to reclaim their sovereignty is war. We know that isn't going to happen.

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Torrvarpen [S] 6 points ago +6 / -0

Europe has had enough of wars over the last 100 years, if it's needed Europeans will take back Europe once again from tyrannic socialists and communists. Only this time without involvement from the US and Russia.

But, since we just literally voted out socialism it seems we won't need a war, at least not for now. Sweden will either have an extra election in a week or no government for a year which means no further damage.

An election right now would benefit conservatives and nationalists with strong majority, no blood spilled and the nations can be made great again. Also fuck EU, we're still an independent nation.

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gaijin_ronin 2 points ago +2 / -0

One kid the main problems still exist. How are you gonna deal with the rapefugees?

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sourkraut 5 points ago +5 / -0

I would have agreed to you yesterday. But what happened in Sweden today has the potential to develop into a game changer. Not just for Sweden but for all of Western Europe.

It is like Torrvarpen explained: the SD now has the realistic possibility of participating in the next government. If this comes along, it would be fantastic for Sweden and far beyond. Because in all Western European countries there are parties like the SD.

Composed of good people but framed by the establishment and the fake news as "right-wing extremists". Therefore all other parties refuse to cooperate with them. In Germany, for example, the AfD. Strongest opposition force. But the CDU (the conservatives, the so-called) prefer to form a coalition with the left, although politically they are closer to the AfD. The same goes for France with the FN and, as I said, for every other Western European country.

If the SD are really involved in the government in Sweden and are successful, it sends a signal to Western Europe that cannot be ignored: it is possible to have these "filthy right-wing extremists" in the government and these guys also make good politics.

Therefore I wish Sweden and especially the SD the best of luck for the next few days.

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gaijin_ronin 3 points ago +3 / -0

We will see. The country is still invaded and more will be sent. I wonder if punishment from the EU mafia will be dealt out.

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HisShadowX 2 points ago +2 / -0

Umm I thought the vote was called by a Refugee who wanted Rent Control and mad the government was going to abandon it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nooshi_Dadgostar

Also the Left Party which called for this was once known as the The Left Communist Party

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Party_(Sweden)#Party_leaders

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Torrvarpen [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yep, and that make thew whole thing even more ironic. The pro immigration socialist party got betrayed by one of their bellowed refuges.

And yes, the leftist party of Sweden (Vänsterpartiet) was formerly known as the communist party. They're still actual communists and are not denying it.

The rent is currently regulated, centrists and libtards wanted to remove that regulation, something that will cause rents to skyrocket due to the lack of rental apartment caused by mass immigration. The left refused to accept that and decided to stop supporting this weak 4 party socialist government which ironically relies on the communists to even exist, but they refuse to acknowledge that.

Funny thing is that the old leader for the communist party Sjöstedt has threatened to pull away the rug under the weak 4 party socialist government for 6 years now, but whenever he got the opportunity he'd cucked out. Nooshi Dadgostar deserve all credit for doing what's expected from a communist party, i.e fulfilling the communist agenda.

It might sound confusing, but it's actually a good thing when all the parties stand up for their opinions and ideologies. For the last 11 years we've had minority governments which could exist simply because some parties basically acted as a door mat, this caused the 4% green party to become essentially the leader for these weak minority alliances.

The green party MP is the one who flooded the country with illegals and fucked everything up, Socialists and commies helped, but MP is the absolute worst of them all. They're also in charge for all the crazy environmentalist new world order, and globalist crap. A completely insane party, ironically funded shortly after they shut down the last mental institutions back in the 80's.

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Eu-is-socialist 1 point ago +2 / -1

No to socialism ... EAT shit with your fucking TITLE.

If sweeden goes just a bit more socialist it would reach soviet union levels of socialism.

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Torrvarpen [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

When Soviet fell, they didn't immediately transform into 100% capitalist. It takes time to rebuild a nation that has been ruined by socialism for decades. It'll take decades to repair America after Biden is done too.