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Yianni1955 83 points ago +84 / -1

So the ruling elites were thinking about this as far back as 1982. Crimes against humanity? Nuremberg Trials 2.0? The more we learn, the more it all seems planned.

slangin_paint 80 points ago +80 / -0

the latest angle I have heard is "yes, it does seem to have come from the lab in Wuhan, and it does seem to have been developed as a bioweapon, but its release was totally an accident". Oh yeah, because the timing was so random too. Not like it was timed perfectly to wreck Trump's economic recovery and also provided the perfect cover for all their election scams.

alfredbester 62 points ago +62 / -0

don't forget the Hong Kong protests

slangin_paint 52 points ago +52 / -0

ya, or the Trump trade policy that was crippling China

Peashout 3 points ago +3 / -0

What Hong Kong protests?

yaki 2 points ago +2 / -0


acasper 33 points ago +33 / -0

I am amused that basically everyone seems to have forgotten that the other two BSL-4 labs that were previously conducting this research are located in the US (NC, TX). Do we think that the PLA did this on their own or is it more likely that this was developed in the US by malicious parties and then sent to WIV when the gain of function moratorium was out in place?

slangin_paint 17 points ago +17 / -0

I didn't even know about the other labs, but i assumed it was a joint operation between china and our own "elites".

MagicBanana 15 points ago +15 / -0

There's also the material transfer agreement for mRNA covid vaccine candidates between Moderna/NIAID and Chapel Hill on December 12th 2019. Just a coincidence though I'm sure.

acasper 4 points ago +4 / -0

Surely. Got a link?

NotTakingDownMyFlag 2 points ago +2 / -0

Is that the one I heard about in Galveston? Really good spot to put one in a location prone to hurricanes...

Update: I found it. This is the one. I remember people mentioning it during Harvey. http://www.utmb.edu/gnl

acasper 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yuuuup, I totally agree that it’s really not the best location for something like this. I’m sure we’ve got some secretly out in the desert as usual. I really just think that it’s funny how some people fixate on China putting the WIV BSL4 in a major city when we have done something similar. The thing is, that’s not the issue. The issue is the track record of violating the BSL4 international standards on containment.

Honestly, even that isn’t the point. The point is that the narrative of an attack is seemingly off limits. That means that there is potentially a hot war taking place on a level pretty much nobody alive has experienced and with capacities for destruction that have never been possessed during war time previously. Last time, the USG convinced the SCOTUS of the necessity of ethnic concentration camps and the “strict scrutiny test” came into existence allowing the feds ignore the constitution. Considering the current geopolitical climate what happens this time around? It certainly won’t be good.

Catchasegnome 4 points ago +4 / -0

And within just a few weeks of trumps trade deal with china

whybag 17 points ago +17 / -0

Robert Malthus died in the 1830's, these evil fuckers have been around a long time.

DoesFreeSpeechExist 11 points ago +11 / -0

How does one bring down the owners of global currency?

thelastlast 19 points ago +20 / -1


untaxable. untraceable.

acasper 7 points ago +7 / -0

That’s why time banks always get shut down. They’re incredibly easy to setup and administer but the government is incapable of taxing them.

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DoesFreeSpeechExist 2 points ago +2 / -0

Will a significant portion of the country though?

And more importantly, WHAT currency??

War_Hamster 9 points ago +11 / -2

A lot of people think this is the solution: https://medium.com/our-new-nature/quantum-finance-de47b8b046a8

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HuggableBear 1 point ago +1 / -0

One at a time

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LowKeyPede 7 points ago +7 / -0

Obama's science czar, Holdren, considered sterilants in the water supply in the book Ecoscience in 1977. It's not a big leap to sterilant in vaccines.


acasper 4 points ago +4 / -0

His dad got a Greenpeace aware in 1984 for his work as an author. Check out his other works. They aren’t better and some are actually more questionable.