I think that's actually why he betrayed Trump and us. They promised to use their fraud machine to hand the presidency to him next. He'd be as loyal to the DS as any Dem president.
Given how rigged the system and how weak our election integrity is, it will likely play out like this...
Xiden will make it 2 years (max)
Cumala will take over and really start wrecking shit
The military will likely already be turned on the citizens; there will be forced vaccinations; "you will live in a cube; you will eat bugs; and you'll be happy"
Cumala will face Pence in 2024
The GOP will rig the primary over the thunderous boos
Pence will throw the election (as planned)
The country will be completely handed over to globablists by end of 2025
Pence will be thrown in the gulags with the rest of us "vermin"
He will be stomped the fuck out by Patriots who watched him a) betray the country and b) know that he was part of the regime the sought to exterminate all Christians, anyone that didn't want to take the experimental gene therapy, or wouldn't properly annunciate "xie" when speaking to a mentally-deranged occultist
I'm not going to stand around and watch that happen and it's why the AZ audit and other audits are critical.
I'd say "they can't kill us all", but apparently Biden already has F-15s and nuclear weapons on his mind and since our military is completely complicit and will execute their fellow citizens on orders from their masters, I guess what I thought would be never possible is possible.
Doomer? Yeah, I guess. But, I won't go gentle into the night. At all.
He “betrayed” Trump because he was always part of the establishment. They didn’t have to offer him shit. If he wanted the presidency in 2024, he gets it if trumps in office 2020.
Trump picked pence because hes establishment. It’s the same reason Obama picked Biden. It was a way to say “yo, I’m willing to play ball with the establishment GOP, come to the table” but a swamp rat is always a swamp rat. And that’s how Jan 6 happens.
the original comment said Nomination. and i would argue they do know how to rig an election. They were just as culpable as democrats in many ways in 2020 and it was even easier for them this time because all they had to do was do nothing
And in fact I was able to think of a few cases similar to his as well. I suppose the difference here would be that Trump is already well known and popular, while Pence is extremely disliked off the bat; and that would be a hard thing to overcome. Ron Paul was popular; but not quite as popular as Trump and social media wasn't a thing then.
Also, Trump could (or at least threaten to) run as an independent, and while that might not result in him winning, it would end the GOP.
Oh, they are experts at rigging primaries, fren. I've seen it play out here in Oregon with my own eyes and it happens all across the country. How do you think RINOs like McConnell, Graham, and Romney keep getting elected?
They were getting reelected long before President Trump came along, and they would have won even without his endorsement because the GOP would rig it that way. The GOP establishment picks the nominees and manipulates the primaries to ensure that their horse wins.
Do you really believe Bush Jr won? I have no proof that he didn't, but thinking back it's hardly probable given his lackluster popularity and the very unpopular war he started. If I catch the mood of this forum, it is possible the uniparty has been able to choose the leaders for a very long time.
It was plainly obvious it was rigged for Killary, and plainly obvious it was rigged for Joepedo. There’s a lot of things that are plainly obvious that are allowed to stand.
It is rigged and has been for years. That's how we ended up with NeverTrump leftist Knute Buehler as our GOP gubernatorial nominee here in Oregon, ensuring a Kate Brown victory.
Not a chance in hell he gets the nomination. They could make Barack Obama the only other guy on the ticket and I'd just write in someone else before voting for that piece of shit Pence.
The GOP can monkey with the primary and Pence can end up the nominee. He'll lose spectacularly, of course.
A lot of "conservatives" may not feel he stabbed Trump in the back, simply because they haven't heard it, but that same crowd is highly unlikely to be inspired by Pence to vote en masse like we were for Trump.
So the GOP, unless they are throwing the election (which they clearly did in 2008 and 2012 by nominating McShitstain and Magic Underpants) they will try to find some candidate that is inspiring but under their control.
The Lincoln Project was a democrat media campaign, it had no support from real people.
The reality is republican voters loved Trump and still do. It's the Republican party that hates him. They're that far out of touch with reality and believe they OWN our votes.
See how that worked out when McShitstain's corpse was propped up as the nominee in 2008?
I know a few Republicans and an independent who were not 2016 primary Trump voters who liked his presidency and voted for the re-elect but have either been totally turned off by Jan 6 media gaslighting or — now that Trump can’t tweet and be in the middle of the media narrative — have latched on to DeSantis as the shiny new object.
DeSantis is awesome, but he is the student. Trump is the master.
DeSantis needs to stay in Florida for a while. Can't afford to lose the governorship of that based state. America needs a successful example of a right wing populist freedom living state to contrast against Dem led dysfunction
Yeah boo him off stage, but do we have any proof of pedophilia from Pence? If we don't have proof we should stick to the truth that he's a traitor and didn't uphold the constitution.
I'm not going to call him a pedophile or a faggot. There is zero evidence that either of those accusations are true. On the other hand, I think we should boo Mike Pence.
Here's why:
Mike Pence got Gen Michael Flynn out of the Trump administration by saying Flynn lied when he really didn't. Obama and the establishment wanted Gen. Flynn out.
Mike Pence's doctor, that one good time girl doctorl, got Doctor Ronny Jackson out as Trump's physician after Trump took the cognitive test.
Throughout the entire Muh Russia entrapment investigation, never once did the FBI/CIA target Pence. The very fact that they completely ignored Pence makes Pence suspect as an Anti-Trumper.
Pence headed up the COVID task force and repeatedly ignored the suggestions and advice by all other members while he favored Fauci. Pence let Fauci have his way with the whole thing.
Pence met with the Frontline Doctors regarding HCQ and did not pass on or relay any of their suggestions or data to Trump or the COVID task force. No one else knew he met with them. These are the doctors who had great success treating patients with either ivermectin or HCQ but were punished and discriminated against for not going along with the disastrous group think.
Pence denounced the January 6th Protestors along with Nancy Pelosi.
Pence certified the election on January 6th even though it was obviously fraudulent.
If Trump doesn't run due to personal choice or political prosecution out of NY, then it will be Pence versus DeSantis. My gut says all the good press on DeSantis now is a setup. They will wait till it is only him and Pence, and then drop a scandal on DeSantis to force him out, leaving us with only Pence as an option.... The low conservative turnout will give dems the majority they need in congress to push us off the cliff...
Romney was a shit sandwich the GOP tried putting a little French's mustard on for us. With Pence they are upping the game and trying the grey poupon and telling us its not a shit sandwich
Raheed Kasam mentioned an online poll recently that included 31,000 responses. In that poll, Pence received zero votes. That is shocking. Nothing can overcome that.
Good idea! Post his speaking schedule and start treating him and every other snake RINO alike the racist school board members. We need to use our voices while we still can
How is he going to get the nomination? The NeverTrumpers (all 17 of them) won't vote for him because once a Trump supporter always a Trump supporter, MAGA Republicans won't vote for him for obvious reasons, and garden-variety Republicans won't vote for him because he has the charisma of cold oatmeal and his competition will probably be much better.
Let him get nomination. Who cares about GOP. And if Republican voters stich with GOP, then it just confirms USA died on Jan 6. And what's the point to fight for these people or this country
at this point, I only want a partner that is pro trump.
He is supposed to be with Ronna Romney at the GOP meeting in the U P at the end of this summer. I won't pay them to get and but I would likely make an appearance. If you think you'll get the nomination, you need to become a Precinct man now
Piss on us legs everywhere he goes in public. Get everyone afraid that every person who shakes his hand will have his dick out and let it fly. He needs to be called "Old yellow pants."
There is no way in hell Pence gets the GOP nomination. Trump's approval rating within the Republican party is in the 90's. Pence and DeSantis are the true leaders, not establishment neo-con uni-party pretenders.
The only way Pence gets the nomination is if the GOP primary process is rigged, and he is so unpopular it will be plainly obvious to everyone.
It will be his payment from the globohomos. He will be installed just like Xiden.
I think that's actually why he betrayed Trump and us. They promised to use their fraud machine to hand the presidency to him next. He'd be as loyal to the DS as any Dem president.
He more cucked than that.
Given how rigged the system and how weak our election integrity is, it will likely play out like this...
I'm not going to stand around and watch that happen and it's why the AZ audit and other audits are critical.
I'd say "they can't kill us all", but apparently Biden already has F-15s and nuclear weapons on his mind and since our military is completely complicit and will execute their fellow citizens on orders from their masters, I guess what I thought would be never possible is possible.
Doomer? Yeah, I guess. But, I won't go gentle into the night. At all.
You may be right. Also promising and delivering the presidency are two different things.
Hillary Clinton enters chat
Haha, exactly
you forgot the day when they will just negate the entire constitution altogether and declare their supreme power
He “betrayed” Trump because he was always part of the establishment. They didn’t have to offer him shit. If he wanted the presidency in 2024, he gets it if trumps in office 2020.
Trump picked pence because hes establishment. It’s the same reason Obama picked Biden. It was a way to say “yo, I’m willing to play ball with the establishment GOP, come to the table” but a swamp rat is always a swamp rat. And that’s how Jan 6 happens.
He won't be installed but he might lose "gracefully" after the lowest GOP turnout in history.
This hits a little to close as this is almost exactly what I thought about senility joe.
You got me there
Also, to be completely frank, the GOP doesn't know how to rig an election. They've never had to do it, they just lose.
Ron Paul
Nomination vs election.
the original comment said Nomination. and i would argue they do know how to rig an election. They were just as culpable as democrats in many ways in 2020 and it was even easier for them this time because all they had to do was do nothing
Touché.
And in fact I was able to think of a few cases similar to his as well. I suppose the difference here would be that Trump is already well known and popular, while Pence is extremely disliked off the bat; and that would be a hard thing to overcome. Ron Paul was popular; but not quite as popular as Trump and social media wasn't a thing then.
Also, Trump could (or at least threaten to) run as an independent, and while that might not result in him winning, it would end the GOP.
Oh, they are experts at rigging primaries, fren. I've seen it play out here in Oregon with my own eyes and it happens all across the country. How do you think RINOs like McConnell, Graham, and Romney keep getting elected?
Unfortunately in the case of some like McConnell or Graham it was by Trump endorsing them.
They were getting reelected long before President Trump came along, and they would have won even without his endorsement because the GOP would rig it that way. The GOP establishment picks the nominees and manipulates the primaries to ensure that their horse wins.
Do you really believe Bush Jr won? I have no proof that he didn't, but thinking back it's hardly probable given his lackluster popularity and the very unpopular war he started. If I catch the mood of this forum, it is possible the uniparty has been able to choose the leaders for a very long time.
It was plainly obvious it was rigged for Killary, and plainly obvious it was rigged for Joepedo. There’s a lot of things that are plainly obvious that are allowed to stand.
It is rigged and has been for years. That's how we ended up with NeverTrump leftist Knute Buehler as our GOP gubernatorial nominee here in Oregon, ensuring a Kate Brown victory.
McCain and Romney ring a bell? Pence is a done deal. The RNC rigs elections too.
No FUCKING way he gets the nomination! Pence is a Traitor and is blind to the facts of the 2020 election Fraud!!!!
It's either he was blind to the Fraud or in on the Fraud!!!!
There was no way Biden was going to get the nomination or beat Trump but here we are. Fraud can do magical things.
He was in. No doubt about that.
He won't get the votes, but they no longer need the votes when they can simply manufacture them.
Not a chance in hell he gets the nomination. They could make Barack Obama the only other guy on the ticket and I'd just write in someone else before voting for that piece of shit Pence.
The GOP can monkey with the primary and Pence can end up the nominee. He'll lose spectacularly, of course.
A lot of "conservatives" may not feel he stabbed Trump in the back, simply because they haven't heard it, but that same crowd is highly unlikely to be inspired by Pence to vote en masse like we were for Trump.
So the GOP, unless they are throwing the election (which they clearly did in 2008 and 2012 by nominating McShitstain and Magic Underpants) they will try to find some candidate that is inspiring but under their control.
Exactly. The GOP has been rigging primaries for years. Pence will never be President, but he could certainly be the GOP nominee.
Judas Pence
… , Attractor of Flies
I will not vote for Pence. I suspect many conservatives would follow. Let it all burn down with another dem
Yeah there will be a 3rd party candidate if Judas Pence "wins" the nomination.
I kind of don’t understand how there wasn’t a major third party candidate in 2020 to try to attract Lincoln Log Republicans.
… maybe because Republicans love Trump, and it would have split the never-Trump vote?
The Lincoln Project was a democrat media campaign, it had no support from real people.
The reality is republican voters loved Trump and still do. It's the Republican party that hates him. They're that far out of touch with reality and believe they OWN our votes.
See how that worked out when McShitstain's corpse was propped up as the nominee in 2008?
I know a few Republicans and an independent who were not 2016 primary Trump voters who liked his presidency and voted for the re-elect but have either been totally turned off by Jan 6 media gaslighting or — now that Trump can’t tweet and be in the middle of the media narrative — have latched on to DeSantis as the shiny new object.
DeSantis is awesome, but he is the student. Trump is the master.
DeSantis needs to stay in Florida for a while. Can't afford to lose the governorship of that based state. America needs a successful example of a right wing populist freedom living state to contrast against Dem led dysfunction
Yeah boo him off stage, but do we have any proof of pedophilia from Pence? If we don't have proof we should stick to the truth that he's a traitor and didn't uphold the constitution.
The fact that he is a globalist is proof.
Are you going to argue that you need a video of someone fucking a kid (like we have with Hunter Biden) before you can call a pedo a pedo?
He is a dirty, disgusting traitor but no pedo.
I wish we'd stop throwing the pedophile label on everyone that does something we don't like. It dilutes it the meaning of the word.
I'm not going to call him a pedophile or a faggot. There is zero evidence that either of those accusations are true. On the other hand, I think we should boo Mike Pence.
Here's why:
Mike Pence got Gen Michael Flynn out of the Trump administration by saying Flynn lied when he really didn't. Obama and the establishment wanted Gen. Flynn out.
Mike Pence's doctor, that one good time girl doctorl, got Doctor Ronny Jackson out as Trump's physician after Trump took the cognitive test.
Throughout the entire Muh Russia entrapment investigation, never once did the FBI/CIA target Pence. The very fact that they completely ignored Pence makes Pence suspect as an Anti-Trumper.
Pence headed up the COVID task force and repeatedly ignored the suggestions and advice by all other members while he favored Fauci. Pence let Fauci have his way with the whole thing.
Pence met with the Frontline Doctors regarding HCQ and did not pass on or relay any of their suggestions or data to Trump or the COVID task force. No one else knew he met with them. These are the doctors who had great success treating patients with either ivermectin or HCQ but were punished and discriminated against for not going along with the disastrous group think.
Pence denounced the January 6th Protestors along with Nancy Pelosi.
Pence certified the election on January 6th even though it was obviously fraudulent.
Agreed.
Why is he suddenly a pedo?
If Trump doesn't run due to personal choice or political prosecution out of NY, then it will be Pence versus DeSantis. My gut says all the good press on DeSantis now is a setup. They will wait till it is only him and Pence, and then drop a scandal on DeSantis to force him out, leaving us with only Pence as an option.... The low conservative turnout will give dems the majority they need in congress to push us off the cliff...
Trump had his scandals and we voted for him anyway. Would do the same for Desantis.
Video choking a dead hooker, eh I’ll vote for him over Pence.
Agreed, but never underestimate the DS. They have a plan (with contingencies) to stay in power.
Romney was a shit sandwich the GOP tried putting a little French's mustard on for us. With Pence they are upping the game and trying the grey poupon and telling us its not a shit sandwich
Raheed Kasam mentioned an online poll recently that included 31,000 responses. In that poll, Pence received zero votes. That is shocking. Nothing can overcome that.
Raheem.
Fuck Pence
Can someone please explain to me how Pence is a pedo? It's not like I'd be surprised but I need facts.
Dominion will fix it all for him.
Not defending him but what evidence do we have that he’s a pedophile? This is the first I have heard of this.
Either way, he’s definitely a traitor.
I don’t get it. They know he cannot win. 73 million of us need to write in Donald J Trump.
The GOP big donors/never trumpers DO NOT CARE what you want or what you think.
Good idea! Post his speaking schedule and start treating him and every other snake RINO alike the racist school board members. We need to use our voices while we still can
You're out of your mind
I think they'll give it to Nikki Haley.
Who told you that?
Even the fly on his head knows better.
Why would Pence GET the nomination
Pences roll is to block a trump run and give biden a second term. Cant do anything about bidens second term, but lay waste to rinos down ballot
No, he's not.
How is he going to get the nomination? The NeverTrumpers (all 17 of them) won't vote for him because once a Trump supporter always a Trump supporter, MAGA Republicans won't vote for him for obvious reasons, and garden-variety Republicans won't vote for him because he has the charisma of cold oatmeal and his competition will probably be much better.
Let him get nomination. Who cares about GOP. And if Republican voters stich with GOP, then it just confirms USA died on Jan 6. And what's the point to fight for these people or this country
at this point, I only want a partner that is pro trump.
He is supposed to be with Ronna Romney at the GOP meeting in the U P at the end of this summer. I won't pay them to get and but I would likely make an appearance. If you think you'll get the nomination, you need to become a Precinct man now
He won’t get the nomination. The GOP needs people who bring in money as donations. Pence will not get the nomination.
Money printing is very popular these days. They may be willing to take a temporary lo$$ if they can reap the rewards after he gets in.
If Pence is nominated, I will switch my registration from GOP to Democrat. And I hate the Democrat Party.
He ain’t gonna get the gop nomination when he polls under 1%. If he does, the GOP truly hates themselves and wants to lose elections forever
The GOP will lose "Billy" if all they can come up with is Pence. He's the Dem's equivalent of Biden.
Ron DeSantis will be the nominee.
You mean hang him
May be the best thing for us. Because we aren't republicans.
No, he won’t. If it ain’t Trump, it’ll be Governor Ron Desantis
Yeah right.
I say we all do a write in of Donald Trump. No pence, no democracker, TRUMP
No fucking way pence gets the nomination.
Piss on us legs everywhere he goes in public. Get everyone afraid that every person who shakes his hand will have his dick out and let it fly. He needs to be called "Old yellow pants."
NO WAY IN HELL!!!! Pence will not register at 1% in real voting. The lying polls will say whatever they want them to!
YEAH AND WHAT PLANET SO YOU LIVE IN LOOSER!
The Advocate says he is a fag: https://www.advocate.com/comedy/2018/2/28/3-reasons-mike-pence-probably-gay
He won't get even close to the nod. We are the MAGA GOP Party now. We will decide who gets the nomination.
He is a closeted gay. He lies to himself. What would stop him from lying to us?
There is no way in hell Pence gets the GOP nomination. Trump's approval rating within the Republican party is in the 90's. Pence and DeSantis are the true leaders, not establishment neo-con uni-party pretenders.
I think you meant Trump and Desantis, not pence and Desantis.
Thanks, obvious mistake. Yes, Trump and Desantis.