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deleted 53 points ago +54 / -1
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xkgb 14 points ago +14 / -0

People who have already recovered from covid don't need the injection

I think it's safe to say no one needs this injection.

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Sophie1776 29 points ago +35 / -6

Fellow MD here. As much as I’m against the need for COVID vaccines, the actual theory/concept of using mRNA for immunity is actual very innovative. It can be used for good!

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War_Hamster 19 points ago +20 / -1

But can you find out the risks in an ethical manner?

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Sophie1776 34 points ago +36 / -2

Great question! In my opinion, what is being done with these vaccines is bordering on criminal. What is surprising is that we have therapies available with minimal risks.

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War_Hamster 25 points ago +25 / -0

This is why I think the EUA should be yanked immediately.

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Block_Helen 8 points ago +8 / -0

If it is yanked the whole house of cards falls apart. It will never be removed, ever.

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War_Hamster 7 points ago +7 / -0

There's a number of lawsuits that may force this issue. We've got more doctors speaking out, too.

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Block_Helen 7 points ago +7 / -0

Thanks pede. I pray this comes to pass.

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MW23232 4 points ago +4 / -0

But right now, unless something has changed that I am not aware of, (which could have happened,) Federal law prohibits employers and others from requiring vaccination with a Covid-19 vaccine distributed under an EUA. If it's yanked you know what will happen w/ that. In fact, how are some employers getting away w/ forcing their employees to get it/them, or be fired? If anyone recently saw the video on Gateway Pundit re-posted here, where the former Green Beret was interviewed for 2 hours about being approached by FBI to do some "work" for them allegedly, and a lot of other things he shared his opinion about, he said he talked to some police in DC (he was there, hired to do some security work) and they told him they just did as they were told because they didn't want to lose their jobs or pensions. That seemed way more important than doing the "right" thing. This, IIRC, was also told to us by an alleged intel leak 5 years ago, before 2016 election, in some posts he did elsewhere, that got re-posted on TD at the time ... if anyone remembers him. He said our "intel" was allegedly just doing as told because they wanted to hang on to their jobs and pension. Seems to be THE most important motivator that is getting people in certain places to do what they do, even if they don't really want to and know better, let's say.

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War_Hamster 6 points ago +6 / -0

Interestingly, I know a retired cop who was there on 1/6. This Patriot was a specialist in that type of a situation so knew what to look for. He has convinced me that there were cops and feds who were in on a plot.

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MW23232 5 points ago +5 / -0

There probably were.

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RallyinStJohnsWood 1 point ago +1 / -0

I was there, I saw them, too.

FBI / CIA types in plainclothes, fomenting, agitating. their vibe was all wrong, stuck out like a sore thumb. super obvious if you know what to look for.

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WatchMaga 16 points ago +17 / -1

It isn't BORDERING on criminal! It is a crime against humanity.

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mobgrazer 6 points ago +6 / -0

It is not surprising at all. The medical system is corrupt to the core.

It profits most not off people getting healthy by addressing main issues (e.g. shitty diet) but by keeping people chronically sick.

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Block_Helen 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's not surprising when you understand the end goal was to get the vaccines pushed through by any means necessary. Suppression of effective therapeutics was necessary to achieve this.

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kek_saved_the_world [S] 16 points ago +16 / -0

mRNA have nothing to do with COVID, or the spike protein that make COVID vaccines so dangerous. too many don't understand the science or the difference.

mRNA vaccines is just delivery of instructions your cells already do all day long. the danger comes in when you give it the wrong message that creates these crazy spikes from COVID which is the pathogen in the virus.

more like mRNA [Car] COVID Vaccines [engine]

they put a dangerous engine in the car. also any real vaccine that is developed using mRNA will need decade study.

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Nimblenavigator1 15 points ago +15 / -0

It’s trial by fire. I got both shots without issue, but in hindsight, I would not have made such a risky gamble with so little to gain. Forcing or coercing people to be participants in an ongoing experiment without properly explaining the risks, or even that the fact that they are test subjects to begin with seems incredibly unethical.

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WatchMaga 15 points ago +15 / -0

You got both shots without issue....so far.

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BumDiggie 7 points ago +7 / -0

Thanks Homer. Got to keep expectations realistic!

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BeardedNinjaPede 3 points ago +3 / -0

Good luck fren. Maybe take ivermectin to fight your body making the spike protein.

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Nimblenavigator1 3 points ago +3 / -0

This was back in February. At this point, I’m probably out of the woods. Perfectly fine, normal, healthy…as one should hope it turns out. It’s more of a “holy fuck, why on earth did I do that?” Sort of thing.

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kek_saved_the_world [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

couple possibles I am seeing:

  • they change the dose in some shots/batches

  • Some folks it stays in the muscle (who have more mass) and immune system destroy there

  • Blood Type O is immune to COVID and will have better time with vax

  • You already had covid and didn't know it and your body responded faster

  • the window of time is 2 weeks after each shot you have the spikes being generated. it takes 8 hours for one cell to synthases the spike protein. 10 Million Ribosome per cell so you can have up to 10 million spikes per cell per 8 hours..

  • exercise makes it worse

  • or could be lucky and you got saline (which has been reported in many places)

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brundlefly777 1 point ago +1 / -0

I've heard about certain blood types (and other factors) causing immunity. Do you have something I could read on that?

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RallyinStJohnsWood 1 point ago +1 / -0

Blood Type O is immune to COVID

I'm O- and I caught COVID at a Trump rally in early 2020

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War_Hamster 9 points ago +9 / -0

That last sentence is exactly my point.

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spelunking_librator 8 points ago +8 / -0

no, we need 7Bn sized experiment, yolo

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BeardedNinjaPede 7 points ago +7 / -0

But can you find out the risks in an ethical manner?

Probably. You do so by starting with animal trials and seeing what happens. There were some trials on ferrets and they all died...

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War_Hamster 7 points ago +7 / -0

That makes me feel much better.

(I don't like ferrets)

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CensoredCitizen 1 point ago +1 / -0

The ferrets died, but I am pretty sure that included the control ferrets. They were killed so that autopsies could be performed. This revealed that all had severe liver disease. The authors of the lab results paper tried to put an optimistic spin on this, basically the equivalent of our meme, "that's how you know the vaccine is working".

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mobgrazer 5 points ago +5 / -0

After what was done with COVID I don't know why anyone would trust any health care, corporation, or government official who claims a particular gene therapy is for your own good.

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_Sully_ 14 points ago +14 / -0

Yes, that's true but previous efforts killed. The desire to open this new frontier in medicine and potential for record breaking profits sullied the integrity of the science and has led to our current predicament. They may have not only cost humanity in lives and suffering but irrevocably damaged the possibility of bringing the world into a time where diseases like diabetes and heart disease could be a thing of the past. That's why it's important that those responsible get the full boot heel so we can preserve what's left of the actual science.

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MotherOf13Furbabies 7 points ago +7 / -0

Sounds like madness to me, trying to develop a vaccine against any virus with a less than 98% of survival!!

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kayak 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yes, perhaps someday. If and when they get it right and it goes through testing before offering to general public.

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Sophie1776 2 points ago +2 / -0

🤣 Welcome to medical practice.

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julianleroux 13 points ago +13 / -0

Ivermectin AND hydroxychloroquine ARE safe. That is demonstrably proven by decades of use. As safe as any medicine can be.

So there is no reason not to TRY them. Huge potential upside, absolutely no downside.

The fact that they were suppressed is the smoking gun that the medical authorities are part of a conspiracy.

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Nimblenavigator1 12 points ago +12 / -0

This is Moderna’s first ever product to market…most of their previous attempts were unsafe and/or ineffective.

Even then, it’s it was rushed in 9 months under an experimental use authorization. We have not formally established that it is safe or effective (telling normies that it isn’t FDA approved always raises an eyebrow).

Moreover, there has never been an mRNA vaccine brought to market before, much less one on this scale.

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Mrs.Frostbite 12 points ago +12 / -0

And yet one of my children received an email from the university mandating this vaccine and not returning inquiries on how to fill out the religious exemption!

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Smurfection 8 points ago +8 / -0

Frontline doctors has a legal form for colleges to fill out that will hold the college responsible for any side effects of the vaccine. In my experience, as soon as an HR department or college administration find out they can be held legally responsible, they reverse the decision. My experience is really just with two frens I gave the form to and it was midsized businesses that ended up reversing their policies.

My guess is that the school will respond to you if you send them a form that explicitly states that you and your child will hold them responsible. BTW, keep that email or anything else they send you mandating the jab. In the future, it will make it easier for people to sue if this injection turns out to be the horror that some people think it is.

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Mrs.Frostbite 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes. They are a wonderful resource. We just need to hear back on how to send in the information.

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Block_Helen 4 points ago +4 / -0

If you don't hear soon....withdraw your student.

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Moonman_Alpha 9 points ago +9 / -0

Has he been cancelled for "misinformation" yet?

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SuddenlyClintoned 8 points ago +8 / -0

They're trying. His twitter has been suspended a few times. YouTube removed a bunch of his speaking.

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Smurfection 4 points ago +4 / -0

Youtube kicked Bret Winstein's DarkHorse podcast off the platform for that epic three hour talk.

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neosin 7 points ago +7 / -0

he probably doesn't sleep in the same place twice on account of Hillary still being on the loose

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SteersBeersandQueers 5 points ago +5 / -0

he'll be dead soon but thanks for trying bro!

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spelunking_librator 6 points ago +6 / -0

found hillary's account

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SteersBeersandQueers 4 points ago +4 / -0

🕶️

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TrumpTrain45 4 points ago +4 / -0

He did another long interview with Del Bigtree yesterday as well. Actually, the Jaxen Report from that Highwire episode was pretty crazy too. Come Monday, when the whitepapers come out, I'm gonna make a post about how the vaccine is causing over 80% of women who get the vax in the first 20 weeks of pregnancy have a miscarriage, and they are saying it is at a normal level of roughly 12%. Clear as day data that they clearly fucked with so Fuckchi can get on tv and say its safe for pregnant women.

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HulkHogan42069 3 points ago +5 / -2

Dark horse was unwatchable because of that asshole Steven whining like a bitch the whole time.

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paperairplanes 2 points ago +2 / -0

It wasn't that bad. The information was worth it. It might be better to listen rather than watch.

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HulkHogan42069 0 points ago +1 / -1

Part two was completely unwatchable. One and three were palatable. Steve is a tool

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BumDiggie 1 point ago +2 / -1

It wasn't because of that beta cuck named Bret?

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HulkHogan42069 2 points ago +3 / -1

No, I very much enjoyed Brett’s perspective. Steve added nothing and made part two completely unwatchable and really ruined the discussion overall.

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BumDiggie 1 point ago +2 / -1

Gotcha. I quit listening to Dark horse a while ago. I never disliked his perspective on anything really. A bit too clinical and 'trying to be nice' for me. I want someone with some guts if I'm going to give up time in my day to listen to, but that's just me.

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HulkHogan42069 -1 points ago +0 / -1

I completely agree. I’ve only started checking in with Darkhorse recently but it’s awesome to see an obvious lefty being red pilled and going against the narrative. He was definitely “trying to be nice” to Steve and should’ve just told him to leave and had a discussion with Robert. It would’ve been 1000% better.

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BumDiggie 0 points ago +1 / -1

I see. Yeah, he's not the type to do that. He thinks everybody in the room is as honest and smart as he is. The last DH episode I listened to was when he and Heather described the infamous Clubhouse coup..

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paperairplanes 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's really worth listening to the podcast - "How to Save The World in 3 Easy Steps" is the title - because the information is just too important to miss.

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Smurfection 2 points ago +2 / -0

Clubhouse coup?

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BumDiggie 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah, it was when Clubhouse was a thing. I honestly don't remember what Bret and them were discussing 'on stage' but they let a black woman give her two cents on stage and then all of a sudden the white males were shunned out of the conversation only only POC were allowed to talk after that. Then Bret was talking about it with Heather on DH the next episode and she called it a Coup. Lol. It was actually hilarious and probably why Clubhouse isn't a thing anymore.

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BumDiggie 1 point ago +2 / -1

Nvm found it. Show #69. Lol.

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party12 3 points ago +3 / -0

It certainly calls into question Fauci's ability to head the CDC.

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MAGAlifeChoseMe 2 points ago +2 / -0

In b4 he's Clinton'd

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keepamericagreat102 2 points ago +2 / -0

He’s on LinkedIn too. Sharing his message.

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Morgio_Zoroder 2 points ago +2 / -0

I assure you such developments will have no effect on my opinion of those institutions.

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Joeverhisskies 2 points ago +3 / -1
  1. What did he invent them for?
  2. On the Dark Horse Podcast he admitted he took his own jab.

WEIRD shit man.

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yetanotherweirdo 3 points ago +3 / -0

He's old. That's probably why. He also says that kids should not take it due to risk/reward.

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BumDiggie 1 point ago +2 / -1

1.Money 2.His wife wants his money

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brundlefly777 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ugh, Dr. Malone didn't kill himself...

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NvJohansson 1 point ago +1 / -0

What happens to the population's trust of public health when they find out? They'll never find out

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WatchMaga 1 point ago +1 / -0

These fools still believe that truth matters. HA!

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reubsey 1 point ago +1 / -0

Is anyone else unable to see the dark horse podcast on apple podcasts?

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ikuyas 0 points ago +1 / -1

He doesnt have PhD.

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mrsray -5 points ago +4 / -9

doing Gods work??? he invented the crap, are you serious?

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kek_saved_the_world [S] 20 points ago +22 / -2

you don't understand. We also invented guns, are you going to say all their uses are evil too? mRNA by itself is not a threat, it is how it is used. that is why he is speaking out. What he created was a process that anyone else would figure out with enough time, the fact he did it decades ago, and immediately came out when Big Pharma abused it, using it as a weapon instead of public health, says it all.

he is putting his life on the line doing this. His system did not include the spike protein, just the process to encode mNRA in the test tube and package up, they altered the lipoparticle and added the spike bio-weapon.

They are using his delivery method to infect their bio weapon.

If you think he is working with big pharma and created the vaccines you see today you don't understand what I posted. He had nothing to do with the vaccines.

they used his gun to murder, do you get it now?

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mrsray 4 points ago +4 / -0

ya ok

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