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Mintap 139 points ago +139 / -0

"Sorry, you just lost my trust in your medical expertise. I want a refund for this visit."

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Cesare_Borgia 89 points ago +90 / -1

We had a pediatrician who suggested my wife and I should get the gene therapy.

Had being the key word there. Frankly I'm surprised this retard didn't suggest jabbing our infant.

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2fat2queerious 39 points ago +39 / -0

The doctor gets the kickback in terms of raises and continued employment. The best period doctors aren't the ones who treat people the best, they're the ones who generate the most billables. Literally why they push c sections on patients.

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Tallsie 11 points ago +11 / -0

Works best when they wait for the woman to be an hour into delivery and then offer her pain killers she didn’t want before.

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prayinpede 8 points ago +8 / -0

Insured and medicade women have much higher rates of "needing a c section" than uninsured

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Quietam_Unum 4 points ago +4 / -0

Some time ago, this occured:

PA: "You had your flu shot?"

Me: "No"

PA: "Want one?"

Me: WTF, "OK..."

Me [months later, looking at insurance]: "Dafuk!?!?!?!"

$100 for a friggin flu shot that's free at CVS/the grocery store/etc.??

(Yeah, I know someone pays for it but c'mon man, $100 a shot? They're producing that poison a LOT cheaper than that. And the gumbys giving the shots don't impress, I tell you what.)

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bclautz 1 point ago +1 / -0

Shows you how corrupt the medical industry is.

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RuleoVicus 32 points ago +32 / -0

They actually do.

Most medical doctors are quacks. Brother had a persistent cough for 2-3 months. Motherfucker finally diagnosed pneumonia correctly.

Absolute fucking idiots.

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AngelMark 11 points ago +11 / -0

Quacks and killers

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chickeninoven 10 points ago +10 / -0

Quacks, grifters, and killers.

Healthy people ain't profitable.

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Brokenmatrix2021 8 points ago +8 / -0

I got sent home from the er twice with "just the flu". Ended up in the hospital for 11 days with internal shingles. 3 days in ICU. 105 temp. Almost died. Never received a bill. It was like I was never there. A lawyer once told me I probably could have sued for an easy million. I was young and just glad to be back in the tree stand.

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Hendrixdan57 11 points ago +11 / -0

Had a cut on my nose went to emergency room because i was fairly certain i had mrsa. ( nonstop bitching about me removing my mask to show doc infected wound on nostril) They thought i had the sniffles and sent me home with z-pac. I go back a second time and tell them this is fucking allergy medication please give me a mrsa test. They took the test and sent me home with amoxicillin which i had confirmed with doc i was allergic to prior to leaving. After callin back 2 times to get the amoxicillin changed for doxycyclne so i would be a little less dead the swelling finally started to go down and the fever broke. Doc called a week later confirming the mrsa diagnoses. If i would have trust them i would be dead.

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Brokenmatrix2021 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm glad your nostril pulled through bro. 👃 If we did what we were told, we'd be dead.

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ERguy87 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes it is

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EuroPatriot 3 points ago +3 / -0

A young girl in my family got badly sick with digestive issues, and the doctors at the hospital badly misdiagnosed her. The medication and food was the exact opposite of what was appropriate for her condition and her condition kept worsening, for three weeks.

In the end her mother pulled her out, got a competent doctor who diagnosed correctly, and the girl healed rapidly.

But the hospital that almost killed her still had the nerve to ask the payment of a huge bill for their service.

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Quentin_X_Zanzibar 2 points ago +2 / -0

What do you call the guy who graduated last in his class at medical school?

Doctor.

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Pepe1776_ 25 points ago +26 / -1

"Begone, commie cunt in a lab coat!"

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TheThreeSeashells 5 points ago +5 / -0

Such an awkward situation.

I hope you meant awkward for her. Because if they pulled that bullshit with me it certainly would have been.

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MAGA_mermaid 43 points ago +44 / -1

😳 this is why i won’t be doing “well checks” (aka vaccine propaganda appointments) with my future babies 😳

no thanks!

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SpaceCadet 64 points ago +64 / -0

I have been pro vaccine all my life. In fact got quite a few arguments with people for telling me to be wary of children’s vaccines. What do they know they aren’t doctors is what I thought. Then Covid hit and I’m eating crow. Recently Changed my pediatrician to one that will openly discuss vaccine options with no judgement. Never ever thought I’d be here today. But part of being an intelligent human is knowing and admiring when you were wrong. And my pride won’t come between me and my children’s safety.

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HikingPatriot 40 points ago +40 / -0

Same here. I had my babies a long time ago and they both got the standard sets of vaccines. I didn't realize until Covid that there were so many more vaccines added to the "standard vaccines" until I read about it on a blog after researching covid shot injuries. I was shocked and now I completely understand why some are anti vaccine.

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SpaceCadet 27 points ago +27 / -0

I here you. My shot record from my entire childhood is half the size of the shot record my children are suppose to complete by 18. What really turns my head is that infants get a HEP B shot when they are born. That’s a sexually transmitted disease. Why would they need that? “Because what if they come in contact with it at the hospital in an emergency situation”. When has that ever been the case other that the aids scare in the 80s? We have precautions now, I don’t think I should put my baby at vaccine risk because you the hospital may make a mistake in the future during a very very unlikely worst case scenario emergency.

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HikingPatriot 4 points ago +4 / -0

it really did blow my mind when I saw how many vaccines they are giving kids now. I had no idea until I started researching the covid shot. I think mine got like less than 10 total spread out over their first five years. Some of those shots combined vaccines like MMR but still it was nothing compared to the amount they are giving now.

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2Fangz 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hep b is commonly contracted during birth - IF the kid is born in an area where the disease is common. That's a big if.

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amarie 6 points ago +6 / -0

So it's pointless to vaccinate the baby because it's been born already and if it's going to contract it, it would have done so during the birth process. Also they test mother's for Hep b, right up to the day of the delivery to avoid precisely this scenario.

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lawlady1776 20 points ago +20 / -0

I am a nurse, mother of three grown children, and Nani of four beautiful grandchildren. I can tell you that I totally understand how you feel.

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powershellder 13 points ago +14 / -1

Here’s a great breakdown of some of the concerns with vaccines. Includes many great sources too.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/23oi4e/the_skeptics_guide_to_vaccines_part_i_poxes_polio/

Kudos to you for digging into this.

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BeijingJoeHastoGo 12 points ago +12 / -0

How did you find a doctor with that kind of attitude? Because around my parts, they all seem to be quackzine zombies. There was one pediatrician in the group who, during the middle of summer of 2020, said the clinical evidence showed "kids are immune" from SARS-CoV-2. That was his word, "immune." The next doctor we saw in the practice refused to see our child until she put on a mask for the doctor's "protection." And when I tried to book the first doctor for the next appointment, he was no longer at the practice.

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SpaceCadet 14 points ago +14 / -0

I looked up “holistic doctors” in my area. Made sure they had MD or DO credentials then started examining their practice guidelines. This doctor is an hour away but we only go to the doctor when I can’t seem to break a fever after 3 days, so maybe once a year. I’m not gonna lie it’s a stressful thing to research, trying to find middle ground. I don’t want an indoctrinated pharmaceutical rep of a doctor but I also don’t want a doctor “healing” my children with crystals and vegetables and raw milk for everything. I want a doctor with critical thinking skills and agrees I know my children better than they do and they should listen to my concerns.

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Shroudedf8 4 points ago +4 / -0

What are some specifics that helped you settle on a good 'middle ground' doctor? Some things that stood out as you researched their practice guidelines?

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SpaceCadet 6 points ago +6 / -0

My last pediatrician kicked you out of the practice if you delayed or refused vaccines. Before I didn’t care because I was on board with all vaccines, but now i consider the fact what if one day a Covid vaccine is on that list? This new practice holds consultations with parents about questions you have about vaccines they give them to your child or they accept your right to refuse them, true informed consent. Also they rely heavily on looking into nutrition factors or behavioral options with children who show adhd symptoms or the like. My kids don’t have these issues but it’s nice to see doctors who use certain medications as a last option when all other options have been utilized or explored first. These are my personal preferences. I’m not a “crunchy” mom. We eat McDonald’s just like a lot of people, but I want options in my children’s medical care and someone who respects my concerns.

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LowKeyPede 2 points ago +2 / -0

Also, "How to Raise a Healthy Child in Spite of your Doctor" is a fantastic read for new parents.

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Shroudedf8 3 points ago +3 / -0

Lol, very well stated. It seems critical thinking is a trait that is hard to find anywhere these days, including medical personnel.

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Frog_Anne 2 points ago +2 / -0

Middle ground! Yes, please! It seems like you can go totally conventional, vaccinate and medicate everything and obey the CDC mindlessly, or you can go with the chiropractor who has a suspicious "diagnosing" machine and lots of strange herbal remedies and "detox" programs. Does no one have any honesty and common sense anymore?

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LowKeyPede 1 point ago +1 / -0

Many doctors are being told how to practice by their hospital networks and insurance companies. Sadly, they don't have much of a choice. Also, the AAP is insane, so AVOID pediatricians and go to Family Practice doctors for kiddos. I'd be willing to drive to get to a doctor with critical thinking skills. Do an interview before signing up with a doctor. Ask if they participate in govt vaccine registries (most states have them and pediatricians opt you in and may not explicitly tell you. States often share this registry info with the Feds and neighboring states). READ THE PAPERWORK YOU SIGN for EACH VISIT. This is a conservative network of doctors...they may be a good resource for finding a Dr, but I'm not too experienced with them. https://aapsonline.org/

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ERguy87 1 point ago +1 / -0

The FNP that I shadowed for my pediatric clinicals held this same position. I don't think we swabbed one kid while I was there. Of course none of them were particularly ill either.

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RuleoVicus 5 points ago +6 / -1

Research Al-hydroxide in vaccines on PuMed.

The rise of autism & Alzheimer's suddenly makes sense...

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HikingPatriot 11 points ago +11 / -0

This is what I read that opened my eyes.

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Kekintosh2020 4 points ago +5 / -1

#REEEEEEEEEEE

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EMP2024 16 points ago +16 / -0

Keep them away from doctors!

If they're actually sick, that's one thing, but don't go for little things like a cold.

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ExRepublican 27 points ago +27 / -0

Even then, you've got to be proactive, knowledgeable & double check everything these "professionals" tell you. Two years ago, I developed a large, painful bump on my scalp. I showed it to my primary care doctor & his diagnosis was, "Oh, it's nothing. I'll freeze it off." Since I was scheduled to see a dermatologist for another skin issue, I decided to hold off on the freezing procedure. So, about 2 weeks later, my dermatologist examined the bump. He was like, "It looks benign. I'll just freeze it off." By this point the area was so painful, I insisted on a biopsy. He grudgingly complied. A week later, I get an urgent call from the guy, "That bump on your scalp is a melanoma. You need to go see a surgeon immediately to get it removed. You're going to need surgery within a month or it's sure to spread." If I'd stupidly obeyed those 2 quacks, I'd probably be dead now. Question everything.

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EMP2024 22 points ago +22 / -0

Doctors truly are some of the dumbest "smart" people.

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EuroPatriot 19 points ago +19 / -0

Most of them are so sure they know better they become careless, don't listen to patients (wHeRE iS YOuR deGrEe?), and would rather make a medical error than consider they didn't know something. University degree make people arrogant and damages critical thinking.

For example, if a patient took an initiative and bloodwork shows it solved or improved a serious health issue, doctors often advise to go back to the "standard care" anyway that the patient tried before and which failed miserably (except at keeping a client for Big Pharma).

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HKgoneWild 11 points ago +11 / -0

The universal issue with our university system. The number of people who get degrees and suddenly feel like they're better than someone who has trades skills is embarrassing. Yeah you have a degree so what? You don't know how to start a lawnmower, and you would know what a wrench was if it got you up side the head. They need to learn some humility and objectivity.

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TheThreeSeashells 12 points ago +12 / -0

Not every mechanic that trains as a mechanic becomes a good mechanic.

Not every lawyer that goes to law school becomes a good lawyer.

Not every artist that goes to art school becomes a good artist.

Not every chef that went to culinary school becomes a good chef.

But we're supposed to believe that every doctor that went to medical school becomes a good doctor. Sorry, but that's not how it works.

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cara_c 14 points ago +14 / -0

The problem is that even many of the good doctors aren't good doctors. They're trained by schools whose curriculum is designed by Big Medicine and Big Pharma, which looks at medicine from the perspective of, "What drug or surgery will stop this symptom"?" rather than, "What's the underlying cause of the problem and how can we fix it?"

They often don't look at the body as a whole, realizing that stopping a symptom might not stop the underlying problem from manifesting in other ways. They usually don't recommend natural health-promoting solutions, such as nutritional changes or supplements (vitamins, herbs, specific foods), exercises or breathing exercises, meditation, sunshine, acupuncture, acupressure, or other natural, less expensive, more overall-health supporting methods of healing.

They tend to go right to the surgery or pharmaceutical drug solutions. These have their uses, of course, but often come with the risk of serious side effects, and should generally be the option of last resort, not the first.

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EMP2024 1 point ago +1 / -0

Amen and awomxn

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Wanderlust 3 points ago +3 / -0

Sometimes the line for a cold gets blurry. I mean it's hard enough to tell bacterial from viral colds.

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Wanderlust 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's a very flimsy indicator. But the point is that it's hard for people to tell what is and isn't serious since it's hard to even tell if you would benefit from a trip to the Doc's for some antibiotics.

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thebest2020 35 points ago +35 / -0

Went in for a cough for our kid and they asked if we were vaccinated.

No.

When we had our kid the followup weeks later the obgyn said there are options like vasectomy.

Fk off. I'm replicating as much as i want. If was only our first so that pissed me off greatly even to have it suggested.

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Azrael14 26 points ago +26 / -0

What the fuck? You only have one kid and they said that!? Not that it's any of their fucking business if you have 20. But I kinda understand maybe suggesting that to a welfare queen, with 5 different kids from 5-10 possible fathers

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thebest2020 23 points ago +24 / -1

We were maybe 3 or 4 weeks post the first one... i also made an offhanded comment that i plan on having an army after she told us there are options if we want no more.

Whole medical community has been brainwashed with depopulation ideas apparently.

Im not one of those that plans for it but imagine being the only one of a few dozen survivors on earth... yet you can't reproduce because you have it snipped.

I don't like tattoos and i don't like body modifications... if i decide to have no more i can stop doing the deed or be more careful.

Ok rant over. Have a wonderful weekend you beautiful patriots worldwide

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EuroPatriot 16 points ago +16 / -0

Go ahead with your plans of having a small army. Let mentally ill liberals sterilize themselves, and have plenty of beautiful, smart kids.

Godspeed!

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krzyzowiec 5 points ago +5 / -0

Are you white? I assume these evil liberals who are trained to hate white people are in the medical profession and pushing for fewer white babies, you know, for "equity".

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BingusCombat 10 points ago +11 / -1

She wouldn't dream of saying that to a fat violent welfare queen with 8 kids

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Azrael14 4 points ago +4 / -0

You are correct fren!

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Tallsie 4 points ago +4 / -0

You should have told them that you are planning on having 10 kids. At least piss the doctor off when they give you the chance.

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Tweedlethree 1 point ago +1 / -0

Was the Doctors last name Gates?

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AOCDickPics 21 points ago +21 / -0

If I blindly listened to my doctor I'd be dead from an opioid overdose.

A healthy amount of skepticism and research is always a good thing.

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chelbull1337 2 points ago +2 / -0

Goodjob doing it yourself brother 💪🏿

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JohnnySkidmarx 2 points ago +2 / -0

My nephew's former Pediatrician told my sister-in-law "this is where his tail used to be".

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booblitchutz 83 points ago +83 / -0

My doctor didn’t leave it at this, she pushed me until I pushed back and it got weird. I tried to be nice, I really did. But when she essentially called me a conspiracy theorist, I had to let her have it.

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trex554 67 points ago +67 / -0

She had unused Jabs in her Freezer and needed to use them up for the $1,200 dollar insurance reimbursement. She probably wanted to give you a PCR test those aren't FDA approved and currently have a hold for safety and efficacy on them but they make $500-$1,200 per test it's a racket. Doctors are Car Salesmen now.

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Lord_Kek 36 points ago +37 / -1

Always have been. It's only gotten worse.

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2fat2queerious 11 points ago +11 / -0

Same way you fix all broken industries and govt. Kick out the money changers who broke it

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RuleoVicus 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'll bring the whips

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krzyzowiec 8 points ago +8 / -0

Doctors made an unholy pact with the government in order to bring themselves prestige and wealth. With proper nutrition, the body repairs itself just fine. The only things you would need a doctor for are broken bones or some disease outbreak.

People used to pay doctors some small monthly amount in order to ensure their health, and would stop paying if they became sick. That was an incentive for doctors to actually look out for your best interest. Now we have gate keepers like the AMA setting a fixed limit on the number of doctors solely to keep their wages high.

Everyone wants doctors to be qualified, but if they are able to succeed in school, why have an artificial limit? Hospitals also have monopoly privileges. In order to build a hospital, you generally speaking need to have a "Conditional Use Permit", meaning that you need to be able to justify why this area needs a hospital, and you cannot build one within a certain distance of another one. Compare that to a vet clinic, which generally has no restrictions and so you see them everywhere.

If you want to eliminate competition, just get the government to grant you a monopoly privilege.

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Testamernt 1 point ago +1 / -0

This must be different state to state because in the Clifton area of Cincinnati you can't throw a rock without hitting a different hospital.

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krzyzowiec 1 point ago +1 / -0

I checked out of curiosity. You can't build a hospital in Cincinnati without "review and approval of the conditional use by the Zoning Hearing Examiner", although I can't find any requirements for building a hospital in particular.

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HKgoneWild 3 points ago +3 / -0

Not always. There was once the country doctor who made house calls in exchange for a good meal or a chicken.

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EMP2024 14 points ago +14 / -0

And they can't think or treat for themselves because of "standard care" and ticking off the medical licensing boards for doing it the wrong way.

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Jabron661 46 points ago +46 / -0

I went to my doctor for the first time since all this covid crap started a couple of weeks ago. Just a maintenance visit, was not feeling sick or anything, just a check up.

I am wondering what he is going to say. So he finally comes in, starts asking about how I am doing and such, finally gets around to it, ask me if I have any questions about covid, I say "no, not really", then he asks if I had had a vaccine I said "no", and he said "that's fine" and moved on with the rest of the regular check up.

He is a cardiologist. Need I say more.

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EMP2024 29 points ago +29 / -0

I have no issue with a doctor asking. They really should in case something they're going to treat you with interacts negatively with a recent vaccination.

Offering, okay, that's reasonable enough (even though it's too soon to be offering).

Pushing it, no. Bad call.

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Rhondevu85 23 points ago +23 / -0

So do doctors just stop learning once they get a comfortable clinic position? I find that concerning. Should be smart enough to spot propaganda.

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charwoman 23 points ago +23 / -0

It seems the docs I've been to do the same thing I do on my own...put my symptoms and meds into a site and deliver the search results. The only diff is they have a license to order labs that the insurance company will pay for. And I've been correct more often they they have.

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EuroPatriot 17 points ago +17 / -0

Most of medical school is about rote memorization.

Critical and independent thinking is not a skill that is encouraged or that really helps to become a MD.

But because they have a big degree, doctors have a smug mindset. They don't have a scientific "trust but verify" mindset and will usually parrot health authorities and experts and think they are following tHe ScIEnCe.

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HKgoneWild 3 points ago +3 / -0

The science? Here's a hypothesis: If a human does not have a greater entity to believe in, then they will create their own due to an intrinsic human need to have meaning. Read from that what you will.

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mkdir-not-war 9 points ago +9 / -0

More egregious, I think, is that it seems the majority of doctors will, in fact, "do harm" as long it means they continue to practice medicine. I understand why, to be honest. When you invest all your money and 20 something years of your life just trying to get to the point where you are allowed to practice, it would be hard to throw that away for your morals. Psychologicially, they probably really want to believe the vaccine works, and so they do. I don't mind having a morally deprived coward of a doctor as long as I have the final say on anything they do.

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m3meMagic 8 points ago +8 / -0

they just ingest the "medical community best practices". They're too scared to actually research topics on their own and form their own scientific judgment.

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24601 16 points ago +16 / -0

Just print out the 40 page Seneff paper and hand it to Dr...

https://ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPR/article/view/23

I seriously doubt he/she can address ALL (or even any) of the concerns in that paper with data based, evidence based, science based information...

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booblitchutz 27 points ago +27 / -0

No I just asked if she was vaccinated. She proudly said yes. I asked “Then why are you still wearing a mask? Do you not trust your vaccination works? You should be safe around me and others. No risk of catching or transmitting it.”

She was shocked that I dared to challenge her and I can tell it rattled her. She fired off a bunch of things, all contradictory, but the only one that was honest I think was that it’s a social thing, not a medical one.

Later she calmed down and kind of apologized by saying “I’ll still be your doctor, vaccinated or not.” I dunno though. I really like her as a doctor otherwise, so I gotta think about it.

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24601 30 points ago +31 / -1

She was shocked that I dared to challenge her and I can tell it rattled her. .... Later she calmed down and kind of apologized by saying “I’ll still be your doctor, vaccinated or not.”

Find a new Dr. ... This one is broken.

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HKgoneWild 6 points ago +6 / -0

Perhaps... Maybe you broke the initial facade and planted a thought. Now wait and maybe that seed will grow. Ymmv, but in my experience those who come to realize they've been brainwashed will become the most fervent in spreading the truth. They've been misled and betrayed by those they trusted, and they're pissed.

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MO-Carpenter 3 points ago +4 / -1

I bet she’s hot

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booblitchutz 7 points ago +7 / -0

Nnnnnnnnnope

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2Fangz 1 point ago +2 / -1

I need a better author than a Naturopathic Oncologist. Might as well be a chiropractor who uses crystals!

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booblitchutz 7 points ago +7 / -0

Finding a doctor that is willing to not go along with the medical establishment is going to be pretty friggin hard. I saw a chiro a while back who was based as fuck, though.

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AOCDickPics 57 points ago +57 / -0

My doctor went from requiring masks, to requiring proof of vaccination, to requiring masks instead of vaccinations, to no masks in about a week.

Emails and phone call complaints work.

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m3meMagic 24 points ago +24 / -0

Money talks. Doctors presumed they could make the rules, but in reality, a new Doctor is usually not that far away.

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Liberty4All 13 points ago +13 / -0

I was pleasantly surprised when I took my middle schooler for his checkup this summer.

Unlike last year, no masks or social distancing was required, and very few of the staff or patients/their parents were wearing masks, either. Kids were smiling at and playing with each other as they waited to be seen, at least in the “well check” lobby. (The “sick kids” lobby might have been less social.) it was fun getting to smile and wave at babies while we waited.

Also, this has always been a very pro-vaccination medical practice, and this was after the vaccines got emergency approval for stress 12 and up. So I came in expecting an argument and thinking this would be my kids’ last visit there. I thought the doc would tell me to find another doctor after I refused to get my kids the jab. Nope…no one made any mention of the vaccine at all whatsoever.

I guess I can keep talking the kids there after all. But then it shouldn’t have been too surprising. Where I live, demanding the kids get the jab probably would have cost them most of their patients.

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Beef_Vegan 47 points ago +47 / -0

Had an OB gyn appt yesterday for our pregnancy checkup. Literally in the middle of reading us some lab results for my wife, the doctor asks "have you both gotten your covid shot?" I just fucking stared at her. What the fuck does that have to do with my baby?

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AbrahamLincoln 49 points ago +49 / -0

Such a shot would kill your baby. That doctor is demented.

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Beef_Vegan 38 points ago +38 / -0

Yeah all the doctors there are on board with her getting the shot while pregnant. They can eat my entire asshole. As soon as my baby is born he/she isn't leaving my sight. I don't trust these mother fuckers.

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EMP2024 27 points ago +28 / -1

Don't let them. They can take temporary custody of your child, vaccinate it behind your back, and never tell you.

If you can, do a home birth so you can control the entire process.

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LowKeyPede 20 points ago +21 / -1

Home birth is great if mom and baby are healthy. Otherwise, if healthy, check into midwives either at a hospital or a birthing center. Midwives respect pregnancy/birth as a natural process whereas OBs see pregnancy/birth as a medical emergency waiting to happen. OBs end up causing many of the emergencies they then solve. I'm grateful for OBs when they are truly needed, but that is actually rare. We had 2 with midwives and it was the best decision we could've made. It's worth looking into since your doctors are jackasses anyway.

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Bunny 2 points ago +2 / -0

I wish I could've done that. I had what seemed like every complication under the sun (plus being "old") and I had to have a C in the hospital. And I was conveniently COVID positive and my husband wasn't allowed to be around as much, or present in the OR. Still bitter about it and it was 3 months ago!

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Genericwhitemale 5 points ago +5 / -0

that's a bit extreme. But the shot is a load of crap.

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wizzingonwallstreet 38 points ago +38 / -0

I ask doctors, "Would you prescribe Ivermectin if I had the Covid." If they say no, or babble on then I say nope see ya later.

I also like to ask doctors if they have ever been pressured to let a patient die over prescribing any medicine.

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Yam_nation 12 points ago +12 / -0

Tell them that you ARE taking it and would like their care and advice.

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Ioxvm 38 points ago +38 / -0

Blue state (LOL Yeah right) Washington, call my family doctor and their greeting states very clearly that they do not administer the vaccine, if you want one of those. Go to Walmart.

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Racerx719 27 points ago +27 / -0

Seattle really does give you guys a bad rap

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Pepe1776_ 13 points ago +14 / -1

Most if not all "blue" states are really just held hostage by a few hotbeds of Tavistockian insanity.

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x79q3pb 10 points ago +10 / -0

Sorry what? I've been out of the country a minute... Walmart???

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Liberty4All 16 points ago +16 / -0

Yep. Walmart, CVS, some grocery store pharmacies, etc, are where people get CCP Flu vaccines now. And since most people who want to get vaccinated have been vaccinated already, you don’t need an appointment or to stand in line. Lots of places offer walk-in, no waiting service.

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x79q3pb 5 points ago +5 / -0

I wouldn't trust those outlets to sell me a picture of the vaccine let alone administer it.

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LowKeyPede 2 points ago +2 / -0

Agree. I saw an ambulance outside of a Walgreens today and assumed someone was seizing up after the vaccine.

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POTUS_DonnieJ 38 points ago +38 / -0

I told my doctor that my decision was not based on emotion but based on statistics and data (or lack thereof). Told him that while I might not have an MD or a DO, I do have an MS in engineering and know how to look at numbers. He told me I was wrong, so I asked to see the long term studies. Dude would not let up. I said I’d be glad to take it when it gets FDA approval to which he actually said it was approved. That was the point when I just walked out. When my medical doctor straight up lies about an experimental vaccine being approved by the FDA when it isn’t is simply absurd. I’ve already written malpractice complaints to the state medical board and the hospital network the doctor works for. If they don’t do anything, I may consider legal action, but probably not as I have no proof he actually said that. I was considering leaving a voice recorder running in my pocket knowing the resistance I’d get to my jab decision, but didn’t end up doing it since I didn’t think it would get that insane.

 

I’ve already changed my doctor. Went onto fec.gov and kept searching local PCPs until I could find one that didn’t donate money to ActBlue. Its incredibly sad that its come to picking medical service providers by political affiliation.

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yukondave 19 points ago +19 / -0

The Doctor is technically correct but intellectually dishonest. Make the doctor check on his phone in front of you to confirm that it is only "approved for "emergency use" and the manufacturer has no long term legal liability at all while it is approved for sale under "emergency use".

Ask him also to explain how the efficacy is dropping weekly in Israel? God bless Israel for being the global Pfizer test subject. Almost the entire country has taken the vaccine and now people are becoming pissed off that they are not at herd immunity. Pfizer still says its over 90% effective at stopping transmission while every week that number drops and is now down to 64% and falling.

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POTUS_DonnieJ 31 points ago +31 / -0

Its authorized for emergency use, not approved. FDA approval is a very specific thing and a EUA does not meet that standard.

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Stanford 2 points ago +2 / -0

Vaccine manufacturers have no liability for any vaccine in the US.

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TheThreeSeashells 7 points ago +7 / -0

He told me I was wrong

You probably didn't need to go on after that. Simply repeating "I don't want it any more than I don't want to drink a gallon of concrete mix" over and over should be enough. If you don't want it, you don't get it. Funny how that's exactly how it works for far more dangerous illnesses. But for a virus with a 99.998% survival rate they're fighting tooth and nail to force everyone to get it. Not suspicious at all.

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usdodsgssog 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'm really starting to think the massive push is to lock people into a "cure" that will kill you if you don't keep getting "booster shots". It's the only logical explanation I can think of. It's the most effective way of turning the entire population into a permanent subscription where you have to pay for this crap forever, otherwise, you die.

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THESALTMUSTFLOW1964 34 points ago +34 / -0

30 years with the same dr.. he knows im not into gvt tyranny and yet peddles the jab and even had the galls to say ..you will be able to get close to people again.. i said DUDE you've known me for 30 years and know how many fucks i give about other pp.. I said the only good thing about the coof was pp staying 6 feet away.. 🙄🙄🙄🙄.. Done with his ass now

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TheThreeSeashells 13 points ago +13 / -0

Same here. My wife and I lead relatively boring lives. Turns out we were very well prepared to say, "We don't care" when we were being told by the propagandists about all the things we would miss if we fail to blindly follow their demands. There's no apples they're dangling in front of us that will ever come close to changing our minds and voluntarily become a guinea pig. And if we want to see friends and family, we see friends and family. We don't need a shot of poison to do it. Nobody needs their permission for that.

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lawlady1776 31 points ago +31 / -0

Doctors, specifically pediatricians and GP, get bonuses upwards to 40k when at least 70 percent of their patient base has received preventative childhood vaccinations. So, you see now why the covid shot has been directed at children. $$$

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powershellder 10 points ago +10 / -0

Yes, I was just trying to find a source for this earlier for another point I was making and I can’t find it anymore.

Information is being scrubbed.

I don’t know why they would try to hide this “benign” fact if vaccinations were good.

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rufrignkidnme 26 points ago +26 / -0

shit, my doctor told me not to get the shot.. said there's no way in hell his or his family will be getting it.

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Honkey_McCracker 25 points ago +25 / -0

On Thursday I went in for a check up. Doctor asked if I got the vaccine. I said, "No." She asked if I have ever had covid, and I said, "No." A few minutes later she asked me why I didn't get the vaccine yet. I said, "There are so many reasons. One of the main ones is that while the shot is free, and the doctor visit to get the shot is free, if there are any complications whatsoever then the treatment of them WILL NOT be free, and also WILL NOT be covered by insurance." She agreed and said that that is one of the best answers that she's gotten. I think that she was getting ready to try to convince me to get the shot until she heard my answer.

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Shroudedf8 2 points ago +2 / -0

You are correct. One may not hold Big pharma liable, but any problems would be covered by insurance for treatment afaik.

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amarie 1 point ago +1 / -0

Meaning no legal recourse. So if you're permanently damaged and unable to work, you'll likely lose your insurance and so will not be able to pay for your health care and you cannot sue anyone to pay for it either.

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CmonGubMintGibMe 24 points ago +24 / -0

I'll give my Dr credit. She asked if I got the vax, said no, I have a lot of reservations of it. Said I feel like the side effects are potentially serious and unknown... and it's only been a few months and not getting the vax is better than the alternative. She did say "of getting covid" in a slight snark way, and I said ya, I take care of my self, eat well, exercise, supplement. She said well I'm not here to change your mind, it's your decision. If you want any input let me know. I said ok and we got on with the rest of the appt.

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m3meMagic 9 points ago +10 / -1

she basically wanted you to take it and chose the route of assuaging your concerns, so it would get to you bill you for your current and future visits.

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powershellder 10 points ago +10 / -0

Oh yes.

If my doctor pushed the COVID shot, it wouldn’t matter if they “backed down”.

The shot is a bad product.

What other unnecessary drugs or dangerous treatments might they be pushing on me?

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mikejones 24 points ago +24 / -0

Haven't been to the doctor in 13 years.

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EMP2024 5 points ago +5 / -0

The only reason I go is for my insurance requirements.

Well, that and a bad round of epididymitis last year.

Otherwise I probably wouldn't go.

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MO-Carpenter 11 points ago +11 / -0

Well, that and a bad round of epididymitis last year.

Haha I got that once back in the day. I feel your pain.

I went to the ER, had this smoking hot lady come into my room for an ultrasound. She was happy and bubbly right until she picked up my chart. The instant dawn of realization that she was going to have to rub jelly on my nuts and really go exploring around my ballbag. I could tell the poor broad got that job because she wanted to help mothers catch a first glimpse at a baby in the womb, meanwhile she’s rubbing my balls while I try and think about baseball and cold showers. Lol

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EMP2024 6 points ago +6 / -0

Fortunately I was able to get meds with telehealth. And my employer employs a doctor so I didn't even have to pay for a visit.

She didn't check anything. Just took my word for it and gave me a prescription.

I wouldn't wish epididymitis on anyone.

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Henry_Cuntmantle 4 points ago +4 / -0

Same experience......but with two women doing it while running a ct scan.....and i didn't think about cold showers....5 seconds of dead silence and they both "busted" out laughing...

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amarie 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's funny!

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lawlady1776 5 points ago +5 / -0

Heavy lifter? If so, be more careful!

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LarryBugman 21 points ago +21 / -0

It’s only going to be so long before they start withholding treatment if you don’t.

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wizzingonwallstreet 14 points ago +14 / -0

I agree. Just a matter of time that medical attention will no longer be available.

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ThurstonHowell3rd 8 points ago +8 / -0

Especially this time of year. You see, it's during the summer months that you have a large number of new doctors and nurses enter the workforce that recently graduated from medical school in May/June. They are notorious for making mistakes. Mistakes that kill people. This is well-known in the industry.

More here: "Avoid the Hospital During July"

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EMP2024 8 points ago +9 / -1

If you take care of yourself you probably won't need them anyway.

I hate this entire thing because doctors aren't allowed to actually think for themselves lest they cross the medical licensing boards.

Then there's the bonuses they get from pharma for offering certain treatments.

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amarie 3 points ago +3 / -0

That's when we'll start seeing "witch" doctors, in small dwellings, on the sly. Health care will become a shell game.

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Groundpounder 20 points ago +20 / -0

They are bribing and coercing doctors and even fast food joints to do this. Many comply, and some don’t. Find the right one

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Muttsbitetoo 20 points ago +20 / -0

Fired my dr after I told her the 600,000 deaths had multiple comorbidities and she became triggered.

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Wolfebane84 17 points ago +18 / -1

They lost me the moment they decided to get rid of the White guy as Captain America just to be able to make him a black guy.....

Fuck this woke bullshit.

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FreedomFromGovt 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm working with my DNC partners to ensure that your updoot totals for this comment exceed all statistical bounds, because it's highly underrated.

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Ryan_ 3 points ago +4 / -1

I’ll go back to watching and purchasing Marvel when they recast Black Panther with Richard Simmons.

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Pepe1776_ 14 points ago +14 / -0

"Jab? You mean that spike protein injection? Pass."

The only COVID buzzphrase more contemptuous than "jab" is "new normal".

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Equality72521 13 points ago +13 / -0

I had a physical from my Primary Care Physician a few months back. Not once did she mention COVID or talk to me about the vaccine. She did however recommend that I get the Shingles vaccine. Sounds like a good idea to me. I love my doctor.

Last weekend while at the archery range got into a convo with a guy who turned out to be a cardiologist. He was completely aware of the fact that we are all being lied to and manipulated on a mass scale. He was particularly unhappy about the attempts to marginalize research findings related to Ivermectin.

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oldsoul 10 points ago +10 / -0

my doc, new to me, launched into how they had been working on this vax for a couple of yrs so it is safe......I wanted to say "and they knew hydrocholoquine worked too and was safe...why did they ban it".....

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MO-Carpenter 11 points ago +11 / -0

they’ve been working on it for a couple years

Oh so the doc agrees it was a plandemic at least lol

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sk39999999 9 points ago +9 / -0

NO MASK, NO VAX, NO MARK OF THE BEAST

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MonkPepe 9 points ago +9 / -0

I had a nice conversation with my doctor recently when I went in for my physical. He looked over my notes and said it appears I'm not concerned with Covid.

I told him no, I'm more likely to get killed by the Clintons.

He laughs and replies two shots to the back of the head is a terrible way to go and is clearly suicide.

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Mythnutbill 6 points ago +6 / -0

That is one based doctor.

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LowKeyPede 9 points ago +9 / -0

I'd ask if they have financial incentives tied to high rates of vaccination among their patients. The answer is probably yes, and they will begin to kick out patients who refuse in order to protect their high compliance rated. Pediatricians have been doing this for years already.

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StrongIsland 9 points ago +9 / -0

Did you take your medical jab dr? What’s in it? Who’s Liable? I need information to consent.

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HikingPatriot 8 points ago +8 / -0

I have to go for my annual physical soon and I'm afraid my doc that I've been going to for years is going to push that shot on me. If he does I'm going to have to give him up and start a search for a new doctor. Which sucks because I have medical issues and when I find one I trust I stick with them for years. And I trust him but if he pushes me on that shot he will lose my trust.

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bonejack 6 points ago +6 / -0

Same here. I have my yearly in about a week. Waiting for the question to pop up. I hope he just offers and then leaves it alone after I decline. Otherwise I'll be looking for a new doctor.

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Assault-Covfefe 5 points ago +5 / -0

Same. Luckily my annual was back in April when the shot was still being phased in. Next April, we'll see how it goes. I've been going to him since I was in college and he KNOWS that I'm rarely sick and if I call about something outside of that annual visit, I'm not bullshitting or being a hypochondriac. He also knows that I was diagnosed with the coof in January, so maybe he won't push anything.

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coolhandcuke 1 point ago +1 / -0

Same here. It's too bad because my doctor is a big fan of Vitamin D.

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HikingPatriot 4 points ago +4 / -0

I've taken a Vit D supplement for years because I was dx as Vitamin D deficient to the point I was having aches and pains in all of my joints. I take 5000 IU of Vit D daily just for maintenance.

When china virus came around I immediately added zinc to my regimen. I've not had even as much as a cold since... The worst thing I've had is migraines and allergies.

I'm a huge fan of vitamin D and zinc.

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rcstl 8 points ago +8 / -0

At my Thursday physical, she asked the date of my last blood test. I replied when the covid hoax started. I think she smiled behind her mask.

When we got to vaccines, not a word about the covid vaccine.

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Matthew419 7 points ago +7 / -0

My general family doctor (who i had been seeing over 20 years since I was a teenager) pushed the vax on me twice when I went for my physical 2 months ago. He knows I'm 100% healthy, fit, no family medical issues, never even get the flu, etc and still encouraged me to take it. He ended up retiring this summer anyway but I'm on the hunt for a new doc.

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Thebillster 7 points ago +7 / -0

My doc is based. He was like, we do do that here but if you want one you can go somehere else, or not.

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Overkillengine 7 points ago +7 / -0

"Are you volunteering in writing to be held legally liable for any damages it inflicts? No? Exactly"

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TheThreeSeashells 7 points ago +7 / -0

We've only had one doctor so far say to my wife during a televisit, "If someone offers you the vaccine...take it." Her answer in about a split second was "No way!" The doctor then started getting all Ralph Kramden "hamunuh- hamunuh" and did't know what to say. She then presented her lengthy argument of why she wasn't doing it. He dropped the subject pretty quickly...and awkwardly.

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t_l_winks 7 points ago +7 / -0

They did this exact thing to my 18 year old son. He stood his ground and told them no! Proud mama here!

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bubadmt 7 points ago +7 / -0

I had an appointment last week as well, and unbelievably, the first thing he asked me was whether or not I got the vaccine. I said no, then he literally went on for fifteen minutes about why it's safe, why my hesitancy is putting others at risk, etc. Ridiculous.

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GeoG85 6 points ago +6 / -0

One of the worst things of today.

You can't go to a hospital, visit a doctor, without being offered or forced the vaccine.

Back to Bush Era Advice "Don't get sick if you're gonna get sick."

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Jettylee 6 points ago +7 / -1

Dr’s are currently the biggest threat to your well being. Use extreme discernment when dealing with anyone in the medical profession. Especially when it comes to your children. Stop being lazy and do the research and the hard work it takes to keep your family safe. Take responsibility!

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King_Boobus_Toobus 6 points ago +6 / -0

Who doesn't want to wear the ribbon? You must wear the ribbon! youtube sorry but it's funny

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amarie 1 point ago +1 / -0

Funny link!

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The_original_wacko 5 points ago +5 / -0

This exact same thing happened to me a month ago. I declined and the doctor didn't press it any further. I think hospitals are forcing the doctors to push it regardless of the doctors position on the vaccine.

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Shroudedf8 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes, I think you nailed it. I went to my pre-transplant cardiologist early last March and he and his assistant were badmouthing the mask thing and general overreaction that was occurring. I went again a couple of months ago and their tune had done a complete 180. He was heavily suggesting that I get the vaccine due to covid probably killing me due to heart issues. I declined and we moved on. I can't be sure but I got the vibe he was just reciting the 'company line'. I respect the guy, so maybe I just don't want to believe he's been compromised.

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radioactivedk 5 points ago +5 / -0

My parents have always been very conservative. The TV is almost always on Fox News (if it's not on old westerns). They went and got the J&J jab without a thought. They were not even aware there were any adverse events in the news, so I assume that Fox is not mentioning any of it either.

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LowKeyPede 2 points ago +2 / -0

Correct. Fox is controlled opposition. They are just the mainstream narrative wrapped up in a red, white and blue bow.

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Friend_of_John_Galt 4 points ago +4 / -0

Nope, would change my doctor over this.

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Purplerose24 4 points ago +4 / -0

Luckily my dad's doctor gave him same advice I did: At mid 70s you are healthy and all your labs are great (bp, cholesterol,etc). You live in a rural area and don't travel. You don't need this jab.

Nice to have a few honest doctors out there!

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MidnightDriver 3 points ago +3 / -0

OK, well, then... let's just take of of your...ummm 'Tetanus booster' then. OK?

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LowKeyPede 1 point ago +1 / -0

No, they haven't been around 20 years. What other mRNA vaccines have been used?

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OneBigMaga 3 points ago +3 / -0

Ask him if he has seen all the people who have died shortly after getting the jab. Then tell him you are changing doctors. The fat is most doctors get their medical information from big pharma. They are completely clueless about anything else for the most part.

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defiant_liberty 2 points ago +2 / -0

The appropriate response is, "I want a copy of my medical records. It's time for me to find a new doctor"

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FiresideRant 2 points ago +3 / -1

"..Would you like to knock out that COVID shot today?"

"would you like to spend the rest of your life in the ICU?"

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CrouchingKamala 2 points ago +2 / -0

The local HMO allows 20 minutes per client on the primary care level. Anything more is an infringement on the Doctor's time and scheduled clients in waiting. Additional inquiries to the doctor are made through the advice line and response is through a physician's assistant. Whether or not you will communicate with your doctor or continue to communicate through a physician's assistant is determined from there. It takes up to 72 hours to get a response. They did nothing to dissuade their client base from the government and media sanctioned notion that regular health care needs were being suspended due to Covid. That said, at the height of the riots, they also sent out a letter affirming their dedication to the intersectional and minority client base. They also, despite their communication difficulties, spammed email 3-4 times a week with automated Covid shot appointment reminders. Eventually they moved to a telehealth model and continued to shift people in that direction whether they had access or not. They are irresponsible and complicit in corruption with ties to public health that further corruption. I'd say shame, but they haven't any. These are the same people that force advance directive papers on people at the door of their appointment and tell them that a family member cannot be present.

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Mount_10_ear 2 points ago +2 / -0

Nooooo spank you

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thefurthestgalaxy 1 point ago +1 / -0

My endocrinologist asked me if I got the vax. I said nope, not interested. He kept pressing me asking why I was hesitant, I replied that I refuse to be a part of the largest medical experiment in human history. He changed subjects after a few moments of silence and finished the visit. Unfortunately there isn't another endo within 50 miles so I'm stuck with him. Tired of these doctors pretending to care about you, all they care about is their pockets.

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BunnyPicnic 1 point ago +1 / -0

The only marvel movies I've seen are the iron man series, and I always thought this was Biden.