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tgwbd 2 points ago +2 / -0

Want a secure phone? Get an iPhone and just don't use iCloud and don't enable any analytics.

Even iMessage is end-to-end encrypted so long as you don't ever enable messages in the cloud. If you don't ever sign in to iCloud at all, you can't enable it, so iMessage is totally encrypted. Of course... the person on the other end may have enabled messages in the cloud, but if it's two specifically secured iPhones talking to each other you're good to go.

Literally all you have to do is start with a new phone or wipe a phone and just answer appropriately to the prompts during the initial setup. Basically skip, skip, no no, skip, no, skip, and so on.