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posted ago by Robust_Safeguard ago by Robust_Safeguard +1639 / -1

They do little inside jokes when they are together like I don't know what they are talking about but don't have the balls to say it to me directly. I was the one who taught them how to use technology and they always turned to me on which information was true on the internet but now all of sudden they know more then me. I tried to make it a point not to talk about politics so we could all get along and be a family but when they have the numbers they will talk amongst themselves like I am not even there. They don't even know how the fucking government works and literally blamed trump for every little thing because CNN said so. It was some of the most pathetic shit I have ever heard / seen in my life. Anytime I lose my cool and actually indulge in the conversation to start and prove them wrong they pull the immature shit like "I cant talk about this right now" or "im tired" even though they initiated it. I cannot fucking stand them at all I really tried to be civil but I cant take it anymore. We havent been on speaking terms for several weeks and aspects of my life have signifigantly improved. I am done trying to make them see the light. The only thing that sucks is the way they treat me like im some housepet that can be shunned away when I am around. It's just the paychological factor of it all not because it is them specifically. I dont know why I am suprised because it is mostly my mom and sister who are man-haters and have treated me differently just because I had a different father and they hated him.i dont even really know why I am writing this but I guess it is because it helps sometimes and I dont have any other like minded people in my life. They think I am the crazy one when I am the only one around there that knows how shit works and what is actually going on. I even admitted that I know how crazy it all sounds but I am not a conspiracy theorist like that, a couple years ago I was in the same boat as them. I told them to just listen to what I have to say and sometimes they would even come back to me saying "you know, you were right about that" then revert back to thinking I am a nutjob. I dont wanna say I hate them but honestly, I fucking hate them lol.

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sum_ting_wong 129 points ago +129 / -0

Hang in there pede, you have lots of like-minded people here. Do what you need to do, keep moving forward, even in silence try not to burn bridges, and go your own way

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Robust_Safeguard [S] 67 points ago +67 / -0

I really try not to but I cant be around that ignorance. It's like if I dont conform they will light the match themselves. I mean they already did, fuck it.

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sum_ting_wong 42 points ago +42 / -0

Just don't be the one that gets burned fren

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Robust_Safeguard [S] 37 points ago +37 / -0

You are right bud, will take that advice to heart and consider it in my future actions from here on out. They arent the type to apologize but atleast I will sleep soundly.

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LoneStarDangler 28 points ago +30 / -2

Women like that needs to be dominated.

You never apologize, never back down, you call them idiots and explaim to them why, corner them, never let them get away. Don't be afraid to hurt them emotionally, nothing is off the table when giving them an emotional smackdown.

Harsh but true.

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AngelMark 7 points ago +7 / -0

Stay away from them as much as possible and they will get the hint that they are cunts!

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BatmanForTrump 7 points ago +7 / -0

I learned this with my own family, never back down, before I'd ignore it and let them spew the propaganda they heard on TV, and just laugh or smh inside, but after awhile I figured, why?? Why do they get to openly say what they want and I just keep my feelings about politics to myself, it made them feel that they were always right and no one disagrees, and then I said fuck that, and started pushing back, my MAGA support became very vocal around them and then I even started making fun of them for the ridiculous things they'd say, I'd say it in jest and be very sarcastic and then I noticed they're only come backs were "these Trump supporters just believe lies", "ok Trumper", "Let's just not talk about it" even though they brought it up (just like you said), and that's when I realized we should never be silent because they have no argument since they're talking points just come from what the talking head on TV told them, they can't tell you why they need to do stuff, and we should push back, (but to do that you also need to know your stuff, and your facts and policies so that you don't become a stuttering mess), but I'd always push back with a smile, never taking myself too seriously, and throw in some sarcastic comments, granted I may be fortunate that my family does understand difference in political opinion and wouldn't hate me for it

P.S. when they spew they're stuff that isn't backed by reality, ask simple questions to follow up, like, "wow, can you explain how that works?", "In what context?", "Really? You're sure about that?", "Have you dug deeper into that?", "What are the numbers on that?" (This one works best when they throw out percentages instead of raw numbers, e.g. "the number of Covid positive patients in x city increased by 300% in the last month", but if it was 1 person that had CV, it just increased to 3 people in a month, the percentage sounds bad, but the raw numbers are insignificant) and you'll see how they completely crumble

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Conservativechick 102 points ago +103 / -1

You don't have to take abuse, not even from family. Maybe if they start talking about just repeat their lines - like I'm tired, etc.

Also, they're women, so as a man you are going to have to learn to put up with some stupidity.

I'm a woman, I know this.

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hocuspocusfocusjeep 50 points ago +50 / -0

TOP FUCKING KEK

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Robust_Safeguard [S] 39 points ago +39 / -0

I know you are right but it is frustrating because there is so much at stake here. Its not even me that I am worried about either. Just tired of the way they treat me and being considered crazy when day by day it seems more and more that I was right and I know they see it in the rising prices of EVERYTHING and crime. I will end up taking care of my sisters kids when their mistakes come back to haunt them. I even told them I would take the vaccine in 5 years time after doctors of my choosing have verified it to be safe(if they ever do). They cant evem agree with me on that.

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Conservativechick 28 points ago +28 / -0

Hang in there! Men need to be the voice of reason and calm, even if it's not appreciated right away.

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AngelMark 6 points ago +6 / -0

These women are mothers? Their poor kids!

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N900mixalot 6 points ago +6 / -0

Once you get to the other side of the frustration it will just roll off and it won't bother you at all.

You're just in a tough beginning phase but you'll get there.

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penguinjay1212 2 points ago +2 / -0

agreed, I am dead to this topic, and I will not in any way be receiving this shot. When you're a little dead inside too, you're actually much more free.

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N900mixalot 2 points ago +2 / -0

Lol right? I'm fighting to keep my light!

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Belleoffreedom 1 point ago +2 / -1

A subunit protein vaccine is in the pipeline. Tell them you will likely accept the Novavaxor Sanofi vaccine, but in the meantime, you'll take your zinc.

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Nostrangertotherain 1 point ago +1 / -0

I've been looking at the novavax vaccine also because it uses technology used in several existing vaccines, in other words, a proven technology. A 30,000 people study showed no serious side effects.

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censorthisss 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'm so lucky to have a based mom.

My sister on the other hand....

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andrenightmode 36 points ago +36 / -0

Bro, my fam is the same as yours, pretty much.. it stems from my mom, who watches a lot of CNN, despite discussions about how it's designed to brainwash you. She knows this, but is addicted to hating Trump and watching those fucktards blather on. My dad isn't really political, but since my mom is, he has to be, and since he is a huge white knight, he's basically the mouthpiece for her views because if she can't be right all the time, especially about Trump, who she brings up all the time for no reason, she cries like a 2 year old (like an angry, pathetic type of crying where you don't get your way). The rest of my family is to greater or lesser degrees brainwashed the same way. It stems from the fact that they're smart people, but gullible, and don't understand how big (small dick) tech actually spins the narrative constantly in favor of the elites and basically turns smart people into dumb people. I've lost a lot of friends over the course of the pandemic, since most of them are mask wearing, virtue signalling, simping muppets, and so those people can go fuck themselves, and i'm fine not having most of them around. I do have like minded friends though, still, who aren't buying this shit, and every once in a while my liberal-ass parents talk to someone who agrees with me, not them, and they have to wrap their minds around it, which they can do, because they outwardly just want everyone to agree with them so as not to piss anyone off. I'm fine pissing people off, and that's why I am the way I am. The latest thing my family has done is tell me that i'm "punishing everyone" by not taking the vax, to which i was like "are you fucking retarded?" which they didn't like the sound of. Anyway, I'm sure most of the pedes around here would agree that this site is great for finding people who aren't insane, and who will treat you like family, since most of our families are kinda fucked at this point, having been psy-oped by a bunch of dipshits and old wealthy codgers who run the media and literally have their fingers up the anuses of most websites, magazines, tv shows, radio stations, movie companies, fucking bubble gum, you name it. But we know what they're up to and if I have the chance, I'm gonna kick one of them right in their micro dick cunts one day...

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Robust_Safeguard [S] 32 points ago +32 / -0

Dude holy shit. My mom pulls that crying infant bullshit as well. She got wasted and after not being able to win a debate with me, she actually got on the phone with a friend (completely wasted) and cried / screamed about how it was TRUMPS FAULT families couldnt get money for "food" when they were talking about that 2k stimulus. It took everything I had in me not to say anything. I was in the other room and I could hear her over the TV because sometimes I spend the night cause it is closer to work. It is fucking INSANITY. They are manipulating their emotions. They blame me as well for not caring abouy anyone else, hence the closing the door shit. They really are retarded emotional wrecks. Glad to hear I am not the only one going through this garbage.

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andrenightmode 15 points ago +15 / -0

yeah.. it's insanity.. same exact type of people i guess.. for me i guess it started on election night 2016.. happened to watch it go down w my parents.. i knew Trump from just him being Trump, and although i thought it was kinda weird he was running for president, I always kinda liked him from when he'd host Wrestlemania, to his tv appearances.. i'm from Canada btw.. but my parents, being huge liberals, lost their minds that night.. they said we were all gonna die, they said the stock market was gonna crash and never recover, they made all sorts of wild claims.. and i was just like "err.. are you ok?" .. we all watched the inaugural speech, and I was actually like "wow, he sounds legit.. " and i was inspired.. they acted like he just said he was going to take over the world .. i went for a drive with my dad who told me flat out the earth was gonna end.. i'm like.. dad, are you fucking crazy? i had started my own business, so as soon as they had stopped yelling and screaming (literally), i was online checking stuff ie. is the world ending.. one thing they claimed is that my business which involved online sales was gonna be doomed.. i'm like hold on let me check, so i did and everything was fine and of course would be fine.. but ya that was the beginning of their TDS, which goes on to this day.. literally turned them into simpletons overnight.. i would compare them to the cast of the 1932 movie freaks in terms of collective mental might, but that's too disparaging to the cast lol

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AngelMark 13 points ago +13 / -0

Weird how Trump didn’t ruin the world or crash the economy or whatever CNN told everyone he would do and they STILL HATE HIM! It’s called being RETARDED!

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Friendly_B 13 points ago +13 / -0

This behavior is not normal or okay. It is common though.

Your mom is behaving the way that she was taught. There are deeply ingrained generational problems at work here which go beyond politics. She is just passing on how she knows to behave.

People like us are capable of analyzing it, figuring out what part of it we may have inherited, and then excizing it and living a wholesome, calm, and serene life. You can have a calm quiet life! There is another way to live.

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DanIsSwell 9 points ago +9 / -0

Sometimes you spend the night, because it is closer to work? Dude, I was going to advise you to move out, but sounds like you don’t even live there? The only way to avoid that loony bin, is to stop going there.

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AngelMark 2 points ago +2 / -0

You are not! We are all living this ducking nightmare together! I lost so many friends n can’t stand my family right now even though I love them!

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freedomcries 33 points ago +33 / -0

Same here, fren.. Amazing what the coof can do mentally to the ones closest to ya. Basically I told my mom she watches tv too much and plays their game well. I dont really give a rats crapper anymore. The more you think about it, the more it sucks. But hey, at least you did not get the vax. You may be the only family member left very soon :)

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Robust_Safeguard [S] 17 points ago +17 / -0

I guess it is a good thing I am a male lololol

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Kavvfefe 15 points ago +15 / -0

Stand your ground, go find a nice Maga girl, start your own family...

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TheyreAftrMeFuknArms 2 points ago +2 / -0

This. As someone once said "Ain't nobody got time for that."

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Bw2020 28 points ago +28 / -0

I have an aunt who I have been close to my entire life. Four years ago she began to have insane tds. My sister and I have shown her everything and it does not matter. She's called us racist and deplorable and disgusting etc etc. She married to a black man who is amazing, but she that white liberal bitch who plays the victim card due to who she married to. It's crazy that we grow up with these people and because they are so brainwashed they alienate their entire family and refuse to look at anything unless CNN or MSDNC tells them to. They are lost and will never come around. I wish u the best

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Maga_bigly 14 points ago +14 / -0

It's truly amazing that people would choose the tv over their own FAMILY. What causes them to trust someone they've never met over life long relationships?

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AngelMark 6 points ago +6 / -0

They would have to admit they have been living a lie n accept those they support are evil! It’s easier to give up your family then admit everything you knew was one big fucking lie! They are WEAK!

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DebbieinDallas 26 points ago +27 / -1

You can’t choose your relatives. All you can do is dump them.

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Robust_Safeguard [S] 15 points ago +15 / -0

Its crazy cause you dont even know me but described my life living around leftists.

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Maga_bigly 7 points ago +7 / -0

"This is a threat to our democracy!"

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ApplesAndCheese 4 points ago +4 / -0

NPCs the lot of them.

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TAIWANNUMBERONE 21 points ago +21 / -0

On the upside, free house in a year or two.

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Robust_Safeguard [S] 13 points ago +13 / -0

Biden will take both of them from me

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Changed777 18 points ago +18 / -0

This makes so livid. If I knew them I'd let them have it!! How dare they treat you like that! I feel like picketing their house!!!

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Robust_Safeguard [S] 23 points ago +23 / -0

It's really a shame because this is what the fake brainwashing media is doing to people. I didnt even want to talk about this garbage I just wanted to get along and live my life. Now I am some plague ridden conspiracy theorist to them. They arent bad people they are just ignorant and dumb. They wont listen to me because I am younger and somehow that makes me the ignorant one.

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Changed777 9 points ago +9 / -0

How old are you and what state. If I may ask

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SaltiTaralli 9 points ago +9 / -0

I'm wondering his age too and if he has to live under the same roof.

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Robust_Safeguard [S] 16 points ago +16 / -0

I live on my own just dont have any friends and due to the lockdowns was the only people I had to turn to. Sometimes I stay at my mothers home cause I just dont like to me alone and it is closer to work. I have medical conditions and kinda need ppl around sometimes to make sure i wake up. Needless to say, i havent been around there lately and showed up for a family gathering when they pulled their bullshit. I live in a super blue area so I dont want to be extremely revealing.

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deplorablebot 10 points ago +10 / -0

I promise you there are like minded people around you. Figure out how to find them and get other people in your everyday life. This community is great but it can't replace real human interaction. Good luck pede and stay strong!

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SaltiTaralli 7 points ago +7 / -0

I'm glad to hear you don't have to live with them. Keep your head up, things will get better. If you want to really piss them off, get involved politically , talking with like-minded people face to face will help you too.

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ObamasLooseButthole 17 points ago +17 / -0

Two of my sisters and my brother refuse to talk to me anymore because I'm a "fascist". My dad and older sister are based on different levels and my mother has decided to never talk politics with me because she's my mom and doesn't want it to come between us.

Even if they're family you can't allow people to drag you down OP. I've literally lost half of my family and I don't even care.

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Friendly_B 4 points ago +4 / -0

That's because they are bigots.

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BatmanForTrump 1 point ago +1 / -0

Did they go to college??

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ObamasLooseButthole 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not all of them

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BaronGSD 16 points ago +16 / -0

I read your story and I feel bad for you and can relate. My only sibling - my older brother is literally an ANTIFA goon. Our elderly Mother is a huge Trump fan and is heartbroken to see her son taken over by such evil forces. He lives in a different state - but comes down to see her once a year. I leave when he comes down to keep from killing him. I can stay calm and quiet for literally long enough to make sure he knows where to find what he needs while here to take care of Mom in my place. I haven’t changed. He did. The heartbreak I feel is no different than if he had literally died. Nowhere near the same person I literally grew up attached to like glue for the first 18 years of my life. Also, one of my best friends of about 25 years I had to kick to the curb recently because after discussing election fraud with him - literally showing him the evidence he refuses to accept any of it. Yet he claims he voted for Trump. I think he’s lying. He says he thinks the country is moving in the right direction and believes most people do. Says we’re just fringe nuts. I lost it. Told him it broke my heart to see him choose to be on the wrong side of this fight. He said it’s not a fight. I said oh yes, it is. And you can’t claim neutrality on this one, either. I told him it’s idiots like you are the reason this country has been taken over. But it’s not over. Many of us will fight to save it. And we will succeed and I just hope I don’t find you in our way when the time comes. We haven’t spoken since. 25 years of close friendship. I haven’t lost any sleep over that one. My brother - I rack my brain on what went wrong and how to get him back somehow, but even my Mother has admitted that she thinks it’s too late for him. Our country went through this sort of family division during the first Civil War. I say the first because we are already well into the 2nd. If history is correctly written the first shot of the 2nd was fired on that stairwell of the US Capital on January 6th. I fear this one may be much worse, yet to come than the one fought 160 years ago. God help this country and those who love her.

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EllemenoP 15 points ago +15 / -0

There's this episode of the Twilight Zone, where it's a sort of Noah's ark type situation except the refuge is a bomb shelter (as this was during the cold war), and the family who warned people and designed the bomb shelter suddenly find themselves deciding who lives or dies when the people who mocked him start banging on the shelter doors in full panic - pleading to let them in. So take heart my friend - because you're Noah. 😊

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Robust_Safeguard [S] 10 points ago +10 / -0

Im gonna watch that tonight lol thanks.

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EllemenoP 10 points ago +10 / -0

That Rod Sterling was quite a guy. He wrote many that parallel our times, because history repeats ad infinitum. See also the one with Burgess Meredith as a man being condemned to death for believing in God. It's not fantasy, it's simply reality, crystalized.

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cincymike 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sorry rod sterling name has been mandela effected its rob serling now I'm with you I remember rod sterling also remember eating stuffers stove to stuffing now this doesn't exist and depends are now just depend who the fuck is changing history

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Menthol100 15 points ago +15 / -0

You’re not alone. I’ve had to remove my sister from my everyday life. I come from a larger middle class family and my dad broke his back to provide for us for 33 years. My mom was lucky enough to stay at home and tend to us. Long story short, my sister told my mom that my mom had white privilege. She also said that black people deserve everything they can get their hands on when they go looting.

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Robust_Safeguard [S] 10 points ago +10 / -0

Omg... Dude. That sucks im sorry. This really has gone way to far.

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BatmanForTrump 4 points ago +4 / -0

Let me guess, all this started after she went to college?

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Menthol100 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yup and then got a job at Apple and then in the music industry.

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BatmanForTrump 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yikes, she went through every left-wing indoctrination boot camp you can get

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HunterSthompson 14 points ago +14 / -0

I am a 40-year-old truck driver and I used to call and talk with my mom every single morning. My situation has evolved pretty much along the same lines as you are describing. I am to the point now where I only called her about twice a week we stay away from politics and we keep it short and sweet. All I can say is with the FBI and Facebook looking to get names on what they consider extremists you might be better off to play along with them rather than getting your name turned in. Stay safe and be careful of who you trust.

I really can’t believe we have reached this point.

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Robust_Safeguard [S] 11 points ago +11 / -0

I know exactly what you are saying. I actually am kinda scared they would do something like to me as much as they claim to "hate cops". I just want them to be informed and I might spend the rest of my life in a Jan 6th cell for it.

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ShitOfPeace 4 points ago +4 / -0

All I can say is with the FBI and Facebook looking to get names on what they consider extremists you might be better off to play along with them rather than getting your name turned in.

I get what you're saying, but I don't accept living like someone who's trying to hide being Jewish in 1940s Germany.

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Jackietreehorn 14 points ago +14 / -0

They are just bullies. That's who the left is. They would rather break you down emotionally than have a half honest debate.

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Robust_Safeguard [S] 6 points ago +6 / -0

Very true. It is the type of people they tend to attract as well because it empowers their bullshit.

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Hunterswhore 14 points ago +14 / -0

Hey man I’m almost in the same boat. My mom lives in Mexico and messaged me and told me I was a bully. Just because I supported trump and posted a meme about potato Joe sucking. She don’t talk to me anymore. My dad kicked me out of his house when I was visiting him one day because I question Andy cuomo’s motives by being secretive about the nursing home deaths My dad said Cuomo was afraid of trump lol my dad and I agreed to not talk politics anymore. But I would love to share that video of the hearing in Maricopa county with him lol My sis is based and she’s about all I have You got us here at patriots. I’ll be your sista

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Robust_Safeguard [S] 9 points ago +9 / -0

It really sucks i feel the pain. All the more reason we need to put an end to this garbage. I really apreciate it you got a friend in me as well. When your family starts kicking you out because you dont agree on politics its absolutely absurd and the fact they cant see that is scary. This really is some brainwashing garbage. I think we need to cancel the cable or something lol

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Hunterswhore 3 points ago +4 / -1

I never thought my dad had it in him to be a sheep lol he’s a boomer though so I guess it makes sense.

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Fenlandlad 5 points ago +5 / -0

Same thing with my dad, he always told me not to blindly trust government since they've always been lying elitists. But now he will follow all the covid bullshit like it's irrefutable. I love my father dearly but I'm still incredibly disappointed in him.

My brother hasn't fallen for this nonsense so at least I have somebody.

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Mythnutbill 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's definitely not my place to say, and I certainly don't know your situation, but you should me tell him that, almost to a 'T'. Point out how he's told you not to trust the government, but then he is doing just that. It might be enough to cause a second thought.

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Hunterswhore 2 points ago +2 / -0

I asked my dad one day do you trust the govt. he said yes. Another time I said do you really think Biden can run this country. He paused for awhile and said he has people to do it. Whatever it takes to get Trump out I guess. My dad was going to buy an electric car said he don’t care if gas prices sky rocket. I reminded him he didn’t have to go to work everyday. I moved from NYS to Texas in May. Haven’t spoken to my dad since then but we share memes and pictures. All superficial.

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Friendly_B 5 points ago +5 / -0

Ha ha I had a older female Marxist client who started texting me that I was a bully recently so I politely cut her loose and settled my jobs with her and now she is indicating to me that if I want to come back I can. Fired.

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PerchingEagle 11 points ago +11 / -0

Just be the coolest cucumber in the fridge. Carry yourself with the confidence of one who expects to be right. Explain nothing if you choose not to.

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Robust_Safeguard [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Right there with you fren

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Bernnyblue52 10 points ago +10 / -0

Hey man it is what it is. A man haters gonna hate and a Joe Biden is gonna potate. It's good sometimes to just get it all out. You feel better and then you go about your day.

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Robust_Safeguard [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

Very true. I really laughed at that second line, it is gold. Thanks fren

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Friendly_B 9 points ago +9 / -0

This is an abusive household.

IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT. This doesn't have anything to do with politics.

May I suggest you try and find a different living arrangement?

Also it's never too early to look into something like Adult Children of Alcoholics and Dysfunctional Families. We don't have to live with the abuse and it's our own job to learn what it looks like and how to live a happy and free life.

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DeplorableKatie 9 points ago +9 / -0

This would hurt, deeply. No matter what sort of armor you put on when family belittles you and rejects you it’s not easy. Hold firm to your beliefs. What you feel and have to say is important. Don’t ever feel less than because you’re not treated equally. You’re here among like minded people and we have lots of ears to listen, shoulders to lean on, and arms to hug. Hang in there, Fren. Family is complicated but usually there is a great swath of love behind those difficulties. You’re important. Keep believing that.

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AmazinKrackin2 9 points ago +9 / -0

Yea, your not the only one fren. It is a weird time and it has divided family members and it can't be just like "everyone has the right to their own opinion" there is only one opinion that the left cares about and it is theres. At least conservatives can talk rationally about issues using facts and logic whereas the Democrats are all emotion and theatrics and they figure the person who gets the loudest wins. It must be hard to be liberal these days where you need to put your brain on a shelf and support causes that make no sense. Hang in there pede, maybe they come around or not but soon enough they will find out the truth about a whole lot of things from November 3, covid scam, January 6th, Obama, and the rest of it.

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brundlefly777 8 points ago +8 / -0

If the 100 comments before me haven't convinced you already, you're not alone, pede.

My own dad sends me and my uncle (the only other direct family member who has refused the shot) bullshit screen grabs from CNN, expecting it to make a difference--then when we tell him to knock it off, he'll add a meme of a guy with a key sticking to his head (as if by magnetism).

My stepmom (his wife) won't let me come into their house because she's afraid her granddaughter, who she babysits sometimes, will catch it from me. Her granddaughter, who is least likely to be affected by it anyway--even the powers-that-be admit this!--and me, someone who hasn't been sick in over a year, with anything. And somehow I'm the selfish one. It's absolutely backwards, but god forbid I talk trash about precious opiate CNN.

I don't have anything else to add that someone else hasn't said already, but I will echo that you aren't alone in this fight. Not by a long shot.

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2016TrumpMAGA 7 points ago +7 / -0

As you mature, you realize that you have to let some people go. There are people whose presence in your life does nothing but hold you back. Sometimes those people are family. Just remember - it is not up to you to reconcile with them, it is up to them to reconcile with you.

TL/DR: Fuck 'em.

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AwareNonCompliant 6 points ago +6 / -0

I e had similar experiences for years. They’re trained to attach emotions to these issues. That’s why you never really here statistics when they’re pushing the jab, just arguments meant to trigger emotions.

When you challenge their beliefs, especially with real proof, it is literally painful to them. They would rather run and hide than see facts that challenge the narrative.

They can accept that you’re right about other things like technology, or any other emotion neutral subject, but not emotionally charged ones, that’s why the left makes every issue into an emotional one.

But they’re still family and that still matters. Just stand up for yourself. You might get through to one of them some day.

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2Legit2Quit 6 points ago +6 / -0

Move out.

Do not indulge their toxicity.

You are made for more than being anyone's house pet.

Do not give any excuses. Start looking for a place tomorrow, it can be small and cheap but will give you the mental framework you need to start building to survive.

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Judiwont 6 points ago +6 / -0

Where’s your dad?

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Robust_Safeguard [S] 16 points ago +16 / -0

Lives across the country for work. He is pretty ignorant to what is actually going on as well though even though he is a Trump supporter because he lives in the middle of nowhere and is computer illiterate fot the most part. He got the jab because he had to for work and doesnt really give a shit about what the future might hold because hes getting older and doesnt have a whole bunch of time left anyway. He doesnt care what I do he just wants me to be happy because he actually took the time to listen to me explain I am not anti-vax just anti this vax and people my age are dying from heart conditions (which I have a pre-existing one). We havent always seen eye to eye but we have a better relationship now that I have started my own life.

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Judiwont 6 points ago +6 / -0

So you don’t live with your mother? If not I would build a phone relationship with my dad and write off my mom. She sounds really mean and it seems like you don’t deserve that.

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Robust_Safeguard [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

I have my problems with him for entirely different reasons but he can be a cool guy sometimes. Im just killing time until I meet a nice likeminded girl who I can start the family I never had with.

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Judiwont 3 points ago +3 / -0

Well your mom abd sister sound like asses

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Robust_Safeguard [S] 2 points ago +3 / -1

Also to answer your question no I dont live with her, I just stay there sometimes because I dont like to be alone and it is closer to work.

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mrs.rose 3 points ago +3 / -0

May I ask how old you are?

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ChiefRedRaider 6 points ago +6 / -0

Sad story man. Sorry to hear it.

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waxmyballs 6 points ago +6 / -0

unfortunately for them, unless they got placebo, they have a rough road ahead, but nothing you can do if they're already jabbed. sorry you have to deal with brainwashed morons.

lucky for me, all family close to us refuse the poison and know what's happening. if not they would have to avoid me because no way in hell would i not piss them off with the truth every time we spoke.

ignore their crazy, if they don't come around, it's not on you. just don't let them mess with your head and make you doubt what you know is true. have faith in yourself.

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HotChicken 6 points ago +6 / -0

Its a tough battle. my whole family and relatives got the jab. the only 1 no jab is my wife and i hate her 80% of the time and want to be alone. the fact that she is anti jab in the first place keeps me around.

They don't push hard or say much, maybe my aunt or cousin at a party but i deal with it.

my neighbors parents who ive known my whole life gave me shit about it and pressured me and i just say NO, ill wait 5-10 years to see what happens, but for now, im healthy and i really dont think i need it.

its fucked up though its what the govt wants. they want the division. so many fucking braindead sheep.

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Robust_Safeguard [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I dont know if you were trying to be funny but it was pretty funny. Reminds me of ferris bueller for some reason. "Hates his wife, loves his car". I am in the same boat. It is only the logical thing to do and wait to see what happens to the lab rats.

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HotChicken 3 points ago +3 / -0

partially serious but not completely. I left my marriage 3 weeks before lockdown. I wasn;t happy long story but i quit my job of 10 years left her 2 weeks later agreed to separate and id move out for a while to test the waters. was about to get a new job 3 weeks later and move out. Then virus and lockdown happened ive been paralyzed since from actually making a move. feel like the world will end. plus, since the world has changed i cant leave her alone in this world with no family or friends. but im suffering too we arent a good couple

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Dorn 6 points ago +6 / -0

Be a rock, unshakeable and unflappable. Be the stark contrast to their hysteria and rampant emotions. Make plans to fix your circumstances and then act on them; making progress here will help you retain hope.

I had a psychologically toxic family my whole life (not political) and cutting them out of my life (at ~31, far later than should have been the case) was difficult but the best decision I've made. Everything is better. Have found an excellent group of boys with my local ProudBoys chapter who are a better influence on my than I'd ever hoped of my family.

Best of luck to you pede, you got this.

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1HappyBuddha 5 points ago +5 / -0

I don’t mean to sound like a regard, but seek out your local monthly Republican meetings, then go. AND, start church hopping till you find the right fucking one for you. A few churches even have single mingles, find a good woman and the two of you build a life beautiful together. Fuck those assholes you’re around right now. Keep the family relationship, but start living your life. Create the life you want.

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grassshrimp 5 points ago +5 / -0

MSM, like CNN, has gaslighted their viewers into believing they are the moral, smart, intelligent, rational people and Trump and his supporters are racists, fascists, anti-Democratic, conspiracy nuts and all around evil people. Do not underestimate the fact that they are brainwashed into actual hate - any violence committed against us is OK and it doesn't matter if we are locked up for no reason and if we are cancelled.

You need to hang tough, not give into their bullying and educate them whenever possible, but I fear that in the short term it will be futile. I have a sibling infected with TDS from academia and I see no hope - all common sense and reason is completely lost when trying to communicate with her.

Do your best, be the bigger person, but don't put up with their bullying crap.

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PapaPepe 5 points ago +5 / -0

Your parents will regret it when they get older and nobody wants to take care of their asses.

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lash 4 points ago +4 / -0

My parents said that to me as a joke when I was kid. I am now adult and have kids myself and my parents will retire in a year or so, but they live and eat really unhealthy and have gotten fat and have many related health-problems.

So I startet pointing them in the right direction, giving them information that I is the food and garbage they stuff in ther faces that is the issue and they just disconnect.

It went so far as ignoring me on what I say they cannot give my kids for food. So in the end I just had enough; They will not see my kids until they get into better health and shape. Again they disconnected and eventually did not accept it because they don't like "ultimatum".

It has been almost a year now..

I will never give in to these zombies. Parasites own them now.

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itsdangerous 5 points ago +5 / -0

hey it sucks. but at the the end of the day you don't want to compromise your own integrity and thats respectable. maybe theyll get around. good luck

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Robust_Safeguard [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Holy shit... Thank you...

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Star_Commander 5 points ago +5 / -0

Just remind them when you can that by not associating with you they are proving they believe the vaccine doesn't work.

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DJT2020 5 points ago +5 / -0

The evil demonrats managed to pit family members against on another. Total POS as far as I’m concerned. Their brainwashing was a success in many cases. Hang in there Pede better days are coming.

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Anyone 5 points ago +5 / -0

Fuck them

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mostooge 5 points ago +5 / -0

Plato’s “Allegory of the Cave” comes to mind. They don't want you to escape the darkness.

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RoofKorean 4 points ago +4 / -0

This is what they want, OP. To split up families.

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B1ueCo11ar 4 points ago +4 / -0

Hang in. Your a patriot.

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Thirsty_Liberty_Tree 3 points ago +3 / -0

Leave the ball in their court by disowning them until they make amends.

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IncorrecttAtLife 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hang in the man. Family can drive you crazy a lot. Maybe try getting out of there for a few weeks...maybe 2 or less. I'm sure there is a friend you could just go chill with some time and heal from the psychological effects of all this.

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1stLssah 3 points ago +4 / -1

I'm in the same boat. Sadly I have to view it as I know family is the most important thing but many have sacrificed way more. I don't think we're just talking about a lost America, we're talking about if western nation's fall so does the world.. n I'm sorry but the children n future generations are more important.. I will not hide, submit or cave. Besides, the left are gay, dumb, n lazy

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Robust_Safeguard [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

It really is a fight for our way of life. It was designed so the people who see it first are the ones who they could call out as racists and bigots. Everyone elae just wants to be popular so they go along with it

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Dialectic 3 points ago +3 / -0

Love ya, fam. NPCs are lunatics

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America_No_1 3 points ago +3 / -0

Sounds tolerant.

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trumpreallywon 3 points ago +3 / -0

We love you pede. We are your family.

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TurboDiesel73 2 points ago +2 / -0

My step dad has severe TDS, my mom is very middle of the road, but still curious which I think is pretty important. If we ever try to talk politics or current events in front him she says the craziest lefty shit, then in private will say she agrees with me. Somehow I find this more disturbing than if she had TDS, too. I don’t visit much anymore.