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posted ago by Changed777 ago by Changed777 +1270 / -1

(please read edit at bottom) Nurse: takes blood pressure. "Have you had the vaccine?" Daughter: " I don't want to talk about that. I'm part of a medical privacy group." Nurse: "Okay. The Dr will be in shortly." Dr enters: Looks at my daughter as she sits down, "So what's this?" (Not snarky. Just really confused and curious.) Daughter: "I'm part of a medical privacy group and I don't want to talk about the vaccine right now." Dr: "I don't understand.. what do you mean?" Daughter: "What do you mean? What's a privacy group? I belong to a group that supports medical privacy." Dr: "Okay. Well, I'll just assume you haven't gotten the vaccination then. What are your hesitations?" Daughter:"No. I didn't say that. It's not about hesitations. It's about medical privacy."

Dr let's it go. Finishes the exam. Thought you might like to know.

EDIT: everyone of us on this page is feeling our way through this and similar situations. This is ONE thing we have tried. Please keep in mind that this is a young college aged girl who, along with her 3 siblings, are BASED, and COURAGEOUSLY engage against groups of their rabid leftist peers. It has been a huge effort and, I feel, SUCCESS on our part as the parents to have accomplished this. I understand those who disagree with what she said, but please be nice to your fellow patriots who are fighting in the jaws of their peers.

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imnotdeadyet 111 points ago +111 / -0

Good for her. I remember the time my doctor asked about firearms in the house. I just gave him the death stare. He said "all rightly then"! A few minutes later he said, sorry I'm required to ask that question. Never asked again.

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Changed777 [S] 63 points ago +63 / -0

Haha!! ALRIGHTY THEN!! I remember those questions when the kids were younger. They were on a sheet of paper. I would draw a big x on the whole page and write on the paper that it was none of their business.

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imnotdeadyet 40 points ago +40 / -0

Yes, in Texas the doctors feel very uncomfortable asking that question. I'm kind enough not to conceal carry to my doctors appointment!

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prayinpede 42 points ago +42 / -0

You open carry?

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War_Hamster 15 points ago +16 / -1

Given how insane the medical professionals are here in CA, I'm considering it.

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Are you in the Fresno area by any chance? Sorry if Ive asked you that before

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War_Hamster 2 points ago +2 / -0

San Diego area.

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Changed777 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ahhh. I just moved my child out to the Fresno area. They are used to being around PATRIOTS. So they are going through culture shock. Hoping to find some connections here.

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kornesque 9 points ago +9 / -0

kek

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brundlefly777 6 points ago +6 / -0

Made me laugh, thanks.

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mty_green_go 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is the way

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imnotdeadyet 2 points ago +2 / -0

No, I conceal carry when I carry. Pros and Cons with both. I prefer not tipping my hand if someone is planning to do evil to me. I also don't want some idiot to try and steal my hand gun if I open carry. The bag guys in Texas have to assume everyone is armed, cause many are.

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Changed777 [S] 9 points ago +9 / -0

Lolol!!

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ohwell316 6 points ago +6 / -0

They have a sign at my doctor. Don't care about that but they would find it during the exam. Don't want to be banned by my doctor. If something ever happens in the office I guess I will stand in front of him

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Tip-O-Matic 3 points ago +3 / -0

they would find it during the exam

A holster is a lot easier and hygenic...

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ohwell316 4 points ago +4 / -0

I already have had problems there. The nurse told me to stop masturbating. I asked why. She said I'm trying to take your blood pressure

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Scutigera_coleoptrat 37 points ago +38 / -1

Yep. Firearm Question: = Obamacare addition. Being a doc these days is not all it's cracked up to be.

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JimmyJam 5 points ago +5 / -0

I have never been asked

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PezzShivers -2 points ago +4 / -6

Lmao... Obamacare is fucking the worst thing ever but Obamacare isn't the reason that question is on there...

In fact physicians don't even have such a question/requirement.

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Scutigera_coleoptrat 7 points ago +8 / -1

Read comment below (as you did, "nurse") - many, if not most physician groups (which employs most now), ins companies, and several states have this in place. In 2016, during the general advent/aftermath period of obamacare, and specifically the interest of "guns" in relation to obamacare, the Annals coincidentally published a paper describing the benefits of asking "gun questions" - a tone and general precedent was set.

Lmao indeed.

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Cacciali_Via 1 point ago +1 / -0

I've never been asked such a question. The only weird questions are about suicide prevention.

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Scutigera_coleoptrat 1 point ago +1 / -0

Depends where you live. Depends on a lot of other factors such as physician group and other things. Context can bring it up. Suicidal ideation would definitely bring it up.

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PezzShivers -2 points ago +2 / -4

omg you just can't handle the fact that you're wrong. You went from posting links to Obamacare that proved that I was right, to now posting a link about some "most states General aftermath advent 2016 obamacare grace period a paper was published coincidentally by annals describing the benefit" blah blah blah.

You're trying so hard that you litterally just tried to post as evidence a fucking paper that 3 liberal "MD, MPH's"(which is a doctor with that's a Master in Public Health) Which is basically the Gender Studies of doctors degrees.. So 3 liberal MPH's posted a social justice doctor paper that doesn't mean a damn thing lmao. That entire paper proves that i'm right.

Dude seriously... think what you just did. You can't help the fact that you were wrong so when you realized that you were wrong and couldn't link to obamacare law, you then decided to google, "Doctors asking patients about firearms" lmao and you found a random paper published by 3 liberal MPH's SJW's that are trying to advocate gun safety and keeping them out of the hands of middle ages white men... and you wanted to be right so bad that you even tried to post that to say that you were right.

You have issues.

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Scutigera_coleoptrat 2 points ago +3 / -1

No girl, I am not wrong, and you and I both know that. Also, others reading this thread know that. It is endemic, as are many disparate components of obamacare, to the medical experience. This happened before you were in nursing. It still happens today. Many have left the profession since, for this and many other reasons.

Yes, I know what the MPH degree is, and those are the MDs who publish things of this ilk. MPHs are the only ones concerned with guns in a non-psychiatric and non surgical context.

You are blathering all over this page with your delusional assertions. Talk about "liberal" (interesting red herring you seem obsessed with) - you are the Snopes of TD.W it seems, and equally in error.

Check yourself, hun.

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PezzShivers 0 points ago +2 / -2

lmao i'm not trying to be the Snopes of TD...

all I did was say, that Obamacare has nothing to do with psyscian gun questions.

Then I completely forgot about it

Then I saw your reply and then your next reply and then the next one and the leangths that you were going to try to make yourself right when it's litterally impossible. I couldn't believe it.

I've been wrong on TD probably thousands of times. Each time I just say oh damn I guess your right, or my bad I was thinking of something else.

Then move on and forget about it.

I still love your little headstrong ass though.

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Scutigera_coleoptrat 3 points ago +4 / -1

You're probably a good pede.

I just know this to be the case. Without doxxing myself, let's just say I am familiar with the practice. I know the gun question isn't everywhere, but it's alarmingly pervasive - and it sure as hell wasn't 15 years ago...

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PezzShivers -2 points ago +2 / -4

all you have to do is admit that you were wrong

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Saltybitch 1 point ago +3 / -2

Doctors like this cunt are clearly a problem. The ones who like to go around the laws and think they actually know what our founding fathers meant by the right to bear arms. They didn't limit that right by limiting certain types of guns because they knew there would be advances in weapons in the future. Trust and believe, there are probably more like this nut than not. SJW, MD

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolynmcclanahan/2012/07/23/gun-owner-rights-and-obamacare-yes-it-is-in-the-law/?sh=44876cc6144a

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DIARRHEA_FIGHT 22 points ago +22 / -0

Out loud: I don’t have a gun

In my head: you commie faggot, I don’t have a gun I have five.

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LouiseThaden 13 points ago +13 / -0

5? Only 5 guns? Those are rookie numbers! You need to pump those numbers up!

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Jduufiisjhxhgd 7 points ago +7 / -0

I also have never smoked or have more than 3 drinks durrrr

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WantToGoInland 16 points ago +16 / -0

Why would your physician ask you that?

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Scutigera_coleoptrat 12 points ago +14 / -2

It was a thing implemented in obamacare era. Many doc groups, ins companies and even states still require the question.

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PezzShivers -6 points ago +3 / -9

She was asking the person who's physician asked.

I'm a nurse. It has nothing to do with Obamacare...

Like I said, I can almost guarantee that the doctor that u/imnotdeadyet was referring to was a psychologist/psychiatrist.

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Scutigera_coleoptrat 6 points ago +9 / -3

It has literally everything to do with obamacare, "nurse" - see HR 3590, Sections 1501 & 1502.

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PezzShivers -5 points ago +4 / -9

You're a fucking idiot... You honestly just took the time to go get and post links acting like you were correct and that i'm an idiot "nurse" and was wrong... Even though you knew damn well that your little links don't prove shit, except that I was 100% correct.

Honestly, after you went and did your research, you knew 100% for a fact that I was right... Yet you still couldn't stand the fact that I corrected on TD and it embarrassed you so bad that, instead of just saying, "oh damn you're right" You actually doubled down and posted links acting like you were right and were just praying that I wouldn't see it.

Think about that. That's something a fucking liberal would do.

For anyone that cares... The links he posted prove that I was correct

You were trying to say that because of Obamacare physicians now ask their patients a question about weather or not they own a firearm.

I told you that's complete bullshit and that Obamacare didn't do any such thing.

The link you shared shows that it actually PROHIBITS that.

Anyone that reads this please go and click his link and read it and then please inform him that all he had to do was say, "Dang, you're right, I got it mixed up with something else."

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Scutigera_coleoptrat 6 points ago +8 / -2

No, muppet. I am not wrong. You are also attempting to strawman my statement - the gun questioning, as a matter of standard, was introduced in early obamacare language - though the specific federal statute was eroded, the genie left the bottle. That is truth, and asserting otherwise is disingenuous at best.

These questions occur throughout PCP offices as a matter of practice, all over the nation. Depending, of course, on the factors aforementioned. Some states specifically ban those questions. Some do not. The article(s), missives, papers, and general discussion surrounding the issues of, specifically, physicians asking about guns in home directly refers to the issue at hand. Of course, this typically does not apply to hospitalists (physicians who are based in hospital, as I am sure you know, nurse), nor would it apply to most specialists.

For obamacare to specifically state something in the spirit of "we cannot require physicians to ask this" is a canard. It's a misdirect. It's an artful linguistic turn - it introduces [guns/gun ownership] into conversations in medical settings devoid of context (including, as you blithely assert: psych offices - an obvious layup question occurring for decades in such settings).

Anyone can google such articles, missives, and discussions from a decade or so ago (to present) and garner context for themselves. Or, as many have intoned already, nurse, they can relay their own personal account of such questions.

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PezzShivers -5 points ago +2 / -7

You're a fucking psychotic idiot that can't admit when he's wrong. i bet if I look through you history i'll find you arguing with others about things that you were wrong about.

It eats you alive inside. You hate it so much. And you are still trying. You're fucking pathetic... all bc you can't admit that you were wrong when you said that bc of obamacare doctors are now asking patients about firearms. and that,

Guns question = Obamacare

Obamacare is the worst shit ever but it had absolutely nothing to do with a gun question and doctors/physicians aren't told to ask their patients that question.

Psychologists/Psychiatrists have always asked their patients these questions and they should

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Snappybs 2 points ago +4 / -2

Jesus I hope your not a real nurse and are some shit larp, if you are.... I hope to God I never step into your practice

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PezzShivers 0 points ago +1 / -1

Because I said that Obamacare had nothing to do with a "gun question?"

wtf are you talking about?

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lawlady1776 1 point ago +1 / -0

I worked in a clinic as a nurse and we never had to ask "do you own/have a gun(s)"? But, I live in Arkansas, so perhaps thats a moot point. I don't know. We had to ask before during patient intake "Are you suicidal or depressed"? That lasted two weeks because patients were offended at the question and blew up the customer service line about it. So, I have never as a nurse been requested to ask this question on intake, admits, or discharges.

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PezzShivers 1 point ago +1 / -0

But you weren't working at a physicians office were you?

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lawlady1776 1 point ago +1 / -0

I worked with 7 general surgeons, one hospitalists who was the boss of the 7 surgeons, a bariatric surgeon, 4 cardiologists, 1 neurologists, 2 gastroenterologists, 4 urologist, 1 psychiatrist and 1 psychologist and a dietician.

My office was in the clinic with the 7 general surgeons, gastroenterologists, and bariatric surgeon.

I was incredibly busy working 60 to 70 hours a week with all ages, comorbidities, lifestyles, sociocultural and socioeconomic in our community. NWA is one of the most diverse in America so I have alot of exposure.

Does this answer your question?

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PezzShivers 1 point ago +1 / -0

lol more or less I was trying to figure out if you were working at a psych place when yall would ask the question during intake. Weather it be shirnk or a counselor.

I could also maybe see the question being relevant at a drug treatment center... Well no, idk

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thisguy883 15 points ago +16 / -1

But what if I just stubbed my toe? What relevance does it have?

And yes, they ask this question even for the most obscure things.

It's just data collection for big government.

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AmericanGuy 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yep

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PezzShivers -9 points ago +2 / -11

Physicians don't ask that and they aren't required to ask that like some other guy up above was trying to say. I'm pretty sure the person was actually referring to their psychologist/psychiatrist when they said "doctor"

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thisguy883 3 points ago +3 / -0

When I walked into the initial appointment with my colonoscopy doctor, that was one of the questions. Dude said he was required to ask when I questioned it.

This was in Texas.

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PezzShivers 1 point ago +1 / -0

There's no fucking way... There's no such law. The last type of doctor to need to ask that question is a fucking gastroenterologist. lmao

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PezzShivers 1 point ago +1 / -0

There's no fucking way... There's no such law. The last type of doctor to need to ask that question is a fucking gastroenterologist. lmao

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The_Nowhere_Man 3 points ago +3 / -0

Unless you can verify every physician in the country doesn't ask it, I would recommend not trying to repeat and argue the first four words of your statement as I've seen you doing over and over in this thread. I've been asked it myself. So I know that physicians do ask it.

The required part I do not know so I will take your word for it and have zero argument to make there.

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PezzShivers 1 point ago +1 / -0

What was I repeating?

The only statement of fact that I said was that Obamacare had nothing to do with physicians asking a firearm related question.

If you're talking about where I was saying that this was more than likely a psychiatrist/psychologist..... I was saying that bc thats the only type of doctor that I feel like should ever ask a firearm related question.

I don't doubt that some peoples regular/general practice physicians have asked them a firearm related question. I'm not disputing that. I believe the people on here who've said that theirs did are telling the truth.

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peterstrzoked 11 points ago +11 / -0

I don’t need some libshit doctor who is afraid of the sniffles calling CPS on me because they think the only safe gun is one that is unloaded and locked in a safe. An unloaded locked up gun is about as useful in an emergency as the police.

I also don’t need said libshit doctor calling the police on me because they decide that simply owning guns is a symptom of a mental health problem.

The only relevance my firearms have to my health is as a potential prophylactic. That is no ones business other than my family and me

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Exactly

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peterstrzoked 2 points ago +3 / -1

If my doctor started getting nosy about something unrelated to my health, like whether I have firearms in the house or not, I absolutely would find a new doctor.

But I shouldn’t have to. And I also shouldn’t have to fight with every single person I interact with at the doctors office who is trying to ram a useless vaccine down my throat, and neither should OPs daughter.

Your casual use of the term “mental illness” is exactly why this is such a huge problem. We are currently living in a time where disagreeing with the Narrative™️ gets you called a terrorist, mentally unstable, the number one threat to our national security, etc. Do you want to be institutionalized and have your freedoms taken away for arbitrary reasons? Because it sounds like you would be okay with that happening to other people.

Your casual assertion that gun ownership is a link to a risk of death is an even bigger problem. People don’t commit suicide because they own a gun. People commit suicide because they want to die. Newsflash, there are plenty of other ways to go if you want to go. A lack of a gun isn’t going to stop you. So maybe instead of being worried about the presence of a gun, the doctor should be worried about whether you want to commit suicide? That was a rhetorical question by the way.

Also, of the top ten causes of death, suicide is ten. Maybe instead of being nosy about whether I have a gun, or trying to force me to take a vaccine for a disease I have a 99.997% chance of surviving, maybe he should be worried about checking my cholesterol and my heart, etc, or harassing obese people about their weight or something.

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PezzShivers -6 points ago +2 / -8

Dude... I was already having your back and I kept scrolling down to see if I needed to set any more people straight and then I read this comment. It's amazing to see someone else here with common sense!

Before I even started defending you and before I even saw your comment... I had actually made almost that exact same comment as soon as I got done reading this post.

I said somthing like, uhhh that's great and all but she's actually at the 1 place where it would be necessary and appropriate to tell them weather or not she's vaccinated. lmao like litterally the ONE place where you would want to answer that question. I can only imagine the doctor's confusion. I'm a nurse and I can tell you 100% that as soon as the doctor left that room he went straight into the computer and pulled up her medical file and figured out the answer on his own.

I think it might have been the way OP shortened her daughters conversation but the way it looks is that the nurse asked her the question bc she might have just noticed an anomaly with her blood pressure.

This could have been just like a doc in the box place and she was seeing a doctor she's never seen before. I'n that case I can kinna halfway get her reasoning.

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Changed777 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I understand what you are saying. (Op here). I really do. We're feeling our way through this with the Dr. When I saw the Dr awhile back, she had told me that 'oh the govt won't be able to control ppl. The only thing they can control is stopping ppl from traveling. Which I think they should." She is completely ignorant of issues of freedom, the Founders and tyranny.

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PezzShivers 1 point ago +1 / -0

One crazy thing i've learned throughout this pandemic is how dumb and obvious some doctors are lol. They will just go right along with whatever the WHO or CDC says without even a 2nd thoight. Doctors that I respect wholeheartedly and have a relationship with beyond just a doctors office. Like ones that are family friends that are super Christian and big time conservatives and Trump supporters and would lay their life down for me in a second. That i've always trusted wholeheartedly... They go and make a FB post like 6 days after the vaccines came out telling people who were against them to shut up and that they were completely safe and effective. I couldn't believe it. I called him immediately and was like, "look you know I love you and trust everything that you say, but how in the hell can you confidently say that the vaccine is safe and effective and tell people to go and get it?" Then I laid down my evidence(this was only a week after the vaccines had come out.(i would have to come with an 18-wheeler worth of evidence if I were talking to him today lol) I just told him that that on average vaccines take about 10 years to make and the shortest one took 4 years but yet this covid vaccine was made in litterally 2 days.. 2 days! I sent him the CNN report that outlined it that showed that according to the ceo of one of the vaccine companys who was bragging in the article that they had made and were able to start stockpiling vaccines within 2 days of getting the covid19 sequence genome code or whatever it's called. legit 2 days and they started stockpiling them for shipment(which obviously means that they had not done shit for tests on it)

Then I showed him a Washington Post article that pointed out that none of the 3 covid vaccines were actually meant to stop people from getting the virus. And that all 3 brands set up their clinical trials in such a way that was obvious that all they were successful at was stop people from getting symptoms. The Washington Post was even pointing this out.

Then I talked to him about a few other issues and once We got done talking on the phone he decided to go and edit his FB post and this time he warned people about the vaccine.

This guy is like 40 years older than me and he's the anesthesiologist for the most trusted sports medicine surgeon in the world. The surgeon that ALL professional sports leagues/teams send their injured players to for surgery. I'm not going to name them but based on my previous few sentences you could figure out who I was talking about if you or someone wanted too.

Just eye opening stuff how these doctors will just blindly follow the WHO and CDC.

I think it's great that you're daughter is brave enough has enough confidence to do what she did. She's a patriot for sure. lol shes so serious about her medical privacy that she wouldn't even tell the 1 person that it's okay to tell lol.

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PezzShivers 1 point ago +1 / -0

With your added contex I would actually say that I probably would have told my kid to say the same thing. Except your husband js a little smarter than me bc I would have told my son to just say that it's none of your business lol

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Frog_Anne 4 points ago +4 / -0

Child safety discussions could be helpful. Is it the policy to ask about pools or other bodies of water? Children are far more likely to drown than accidentally shoot themselves. If they ask about firearms but don't mention drowning risks, then they're not worried about safety, they're bothered by the 2nd amendment.

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I_Used_to_be_me 2 points ago +2 / -0

Might have “good advice”? Lol. I can’t specifically say where I work because there’s only one, but let’s just say it affects all doctors and their training. The “advice” pertaining to firearms literally reads: “keeps gun unloaded, with a gun lock on it, in a locked gun safe, with the key to the safe kept in a locker, also locked, on a different property.” (Only it used hilarious phrasing that nobody who knows anything about firearms would ever use). Trust me, they don’t have good advice

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

They always have a 'good' reason for things like this. But it's a calculated step in the march to tyranny.

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Perhelion 2 points ago +2 / -0

Required???? What the f...

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nightfox02 36 points ago +36 / -0

the left doesnt seem to understand privacy. they want the POV butthole view when you are having sex in the bedroom.

generally speaking above types of folks are losers that dont have their own goals and motivations so they cling like shit-flies to other realities re: escapism.

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Kavvfefe 10 points ago +10 / -0

They sociopaths with no boundaries....

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Changed777 [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

Bingo!

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Shaffro 24 points ago +24 / -0

I have a good doctor. He never says a thing about the vax. At least, so far.

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Changed777 [S] 9 points ago +9 / -0

That's great! You're lucky!

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rebuildingMyself 2 points ago +2 / -0

Mine simply asked me. I said no, he tried to pitch it a bit but quickly moved on. I don't fault him because he's just doing his job as best as he knows, but at least he wasn't a bitch about it.

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NurseJenny1 20 points ago +20 / -0

You should revel in parent pride this fine day. Bravo!

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Changed777 [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

Thank you! I am🙂🇺🇲

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ChynahIzAzzhole 15 points ago +16 / -1

We use.. HIPPA. My medical issues are none of your d. Business.

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HuggableBear 13 points ago +14 / -1

...You're at a Doctor's office. Your medical issues are literally their business. You pay them to diagnose you medically.

Medical privacy doesn't apply when you're at the medical provider. That person needs the information you're holding back.

People shouldn't hide behind medical privacy on this anyway. Tell em no, you're not getting the vaccine, and when they ask why, tell em it doesn't stop you from getting it or spreading it, it never has, the manufacturers never claimed it would, all it does is reduce symptoms, you're not in an age bracket where you're worried about the symptoms in the first place, the clinical trials are still ongoing on this experimental gene therapy, and there are enough bad side effects that you would prefer to take your chances with the disease itself.

Stop hiding. Blow them out of the water with your information. They think you're a dumb hick who gets their news from Alex Jones and can barely write your own name. Prove them wrong.

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sordfysh 3 points ago +3 / -0

If you are going to do this, you should get them to sign paperwork taking on responsibility for any negative effects of the vaccine.

The doctor will balk at that, and you can press HIM/HER.

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Changed777 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah I get that. My husband and I had a disagreement about how to handle it. (Op here). So idk

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

They don't want us to die, but they are for the greater good and are tools of the left. Unfortunately. And they don't even know it.

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stealthboy 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's not how that works. And it's "HIPAA".

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doug2 12 points ago +15 / -3

Fag handshakers dont think we can all see he just joined lol

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Dominion3 2 points ago +2 / -0

I keep seeing handshakes mentioned like "handshake noted" and similar.

What does it mean? I'm OOTL.

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Fangerang 3 points ago +3 / -0

It means it's a newer account.

Not sure what the time frame is but for a certain period of time when you first create an account it'll show a handshake icon to the right of your username.

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current_horror 9 points ago +11 / -2

Look at this retard lol

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PocketPosse 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thats called freedom faggot. Its the people we want here. Timid fake civility is for sheeple.

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fucklarps45 0 points ago +3 / -3

This place is full of Q larps and boomers that believe everything they read.

This post was fucking cringe

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WhiskeyTwoNine 9 points ago +11 / -2

Nah I liked OP's story better than your idea.

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MAGABrick 6 points ago +9 / -3

Go back to reddit.

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

I do understand your pov. I didn't want her to say that... My husband and I were disagreeing. But we wanted her to be elusive and throw the Dr off balance and mostly NOT say NO I'M NOT VAXXED. That's what happened. Were all feeling our way through this. And the Dr is a leftist. I will add that husband and daughter are brilliant. Daughter gets free ride Bec she is intelligent and gets it from her dad. Everything she touches turns to gold. 19 and stands up to throngs of brainwashed liberal college kids (she is courageous). And she's beautiful I might add.

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Kavvfefe 12 points ago +12 / -0

Name of the privacy group? That's private...

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Changed777 [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

Haha. (Me, myself and I)

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Squeaker 11 points ago +12 / -1

That's the standard answer from the goon squad who are harassing people via text and phone here: "what's your hesitancy for getting the vaccine?" Even if your reply doesn't specify you did or didn't get one, they just assume you didn't. So, I just avoid them all period. Can't assume shit if I just refuse to answer their calls and texts.

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EggPlanter 7 points ago +7 / -0

“I’m just simply not going to take it.”

~ begins laughing hysterically

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Changed777 [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hahahaha!!

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current_horror 6 points ago +6 / -0

It's a framing device. If you're "hesitant", then you sound scared. No one wants to be seen as afraid, least of all those tough rural men, right?

Whereas if the lefties say you "refuse" vaccination, suddenly you are powerful. In fact, you might even have a reason to refuse, and that might get people asking questions.

Disingenuous/dishonest framing (aka poisoning the well) is like 90% of what leftists do.

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Changed777 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

What... You have ppl calling you and texting you?

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Squeaker 5 points ago +6 / -1

Yes. Received a text. Friend of mine received a call and text, but I don't answer calls from unknown numbers so I'm not positive if I've received a call or not.

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Star_Commander 10 points ago +10 / -0

Meh. I believe in giving my doctors my complete medical history. If I don't trust the doctor with that, I shouldn't trust them with anything else.

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Changed777 [S] 2 points ago +3 / -1

That's pretty much becoming the case. The Dr told me last time that she thought ppl SHOULD be federally not allowed to fly if their unvaxxed

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Star_Commander 1 point ago +1 / -0

Simple answer: Get a new doctor.

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Changed777 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

A little easier said than done. How do you just find a needle in a haystack

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Star_Commander 1 point ago +1 / -0

Just like finding a mechanic. You interview them, look at reviews online, ask your friends who they use for a doctor, etc.

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I just think it would be different since my goal is to find a non PC Dr. Unless there are more than I think... And they make their views known. I have thought about calling up and asking if any of the drs are prescribing ivermectin in the event of Covid.

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Cacciali_Via 9 points ago +9 / -0

Kind of a weird flex...but ok.

I have an appointment this fall. I anticipate they may push me to get the vax even though I have had covid.

I will bring a printed copy of the Cleveland Clinic study which shows there is zero benefit to getting vaccinated if you have natural immunity.

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TheBroodwich 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is the first I have heard of this. Sauce? I have an appointment soon myself.

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ha their heads will probably explode when you give it to them

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AbrahamLincoln 9 points ago +9 / -0

Get a new doctor. Don't get health care from cult members.

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lixa 1 point ago +1 / -0

Bingo

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

In not sure how to find one

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Changed777 [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yeah really

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AngelMark 8 points ago +8 / -0

My doc asked and I said I’m waiting for the animal testing to be complete n he said what animal testing and I said while sweeping my hand across the room “All you fine medical people who have taken it” He had a weird look on his face n dropped the subject!

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Changed777 [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Haha you said that? Hahaha

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Fanakapan 6 points ago +6 / -0

Memorise some of the terms covering some of the vaccine 'Benefits' such as , Thrombocytopenia, or Myocarditis. And you'll find that a lot of medical professionals will drop the topic of vaccination status like it was radioactive. :)

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah I'll have to prepare something when I go... We have the same Dr. She did tell my daughter that there is allot of misinformation such as infertility. It's not true she said

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Bernieisacuck 4 points ago +4 / -0

Why would you want medical privacy from your primary care doctor. Sounds retarded and combative for no reason.

I went to the doctor yesterday too and explained like an adult why I didn’t want the vaccine. She understood. The nurse agreed the doctor didn’t.

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

See edit. I understand what you are saying.

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Bernieisacuck 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’m proud of her but at the same time we need to show we are the smarter/sane ones these days as they’re going out of their way to make us not be.

You’re doing great and my comment wasn’t meant to be as mean as it came off I apologize I just think we can do better than plugging our ears and saying “I’m not discussing this!”

By engaging we can change some minds. I explained to my extremely pro-“vax” doctor how I’m the first one in my family to adopt a new technology and I hope the MRNA therapy works but like a self driving car I am not willing to put myself or my family in possible danger just to be the first one to test it out.

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

It's ok.... Thanks for your comment. I mean you didn't call her a spineless 'c-nt' like someone below lol. I do understand your point and I agree. I swing between total transparency and giving the Dr information and being totally elusive. I was going to start sending the Dr videos of other drs etc. But then I know she's a total leftist and feel like we just need to fade away from her.

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Bernieisacuck 2 points ago +2 / -0

I’m actually requesting a new primary only because 4 months ago my illness was emergency and she was more concerned with my vaccine status than getting me the help I needed. Luckily I pulled through and her nurse was super red pilled.

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Wow. Are you serious?!!! That's bad.

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Bernieisacuck 2 points ago +2 / -0

VA health care. True socialized medicine in America and it sucks.

The VA has legitimately left me for dead and laughed at me on the phone. The admin staff and half the nurses are all ghetto trash the doctors all retarded SJW’s it’s horrible.

I’ve had a few doctors in 20 years that gave a shit but they’re all gone now.

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Are you serious? I thought Trump cleaned that up? I had no idea. Want me to call them? What can I do?

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The_Nowhere_Man 1 point ago +1 / -0

Right there with you in the pains of the VA Healthcare system. Though I'm lucky that my main doctor is pretty based. She has yet to ask me about the Vax and only asks about anything currently going on with my physical and mental health before we get to why I'm visiting.

I'm shocked they haven't gotten rid of her yet for being good at her job and staying on point with the visit instead of pushing for bullshit and being nosy about non-helath related things.

I always miss her when she's booked and I have to deal with one of the other physicians on staff.

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DIARRHEA_FIGHT 4 points ago +4 / -0

I tell them yes (which is true), but I also tell them I will not show them my proof. The nurses get seriously butthurt about it. You’d think their lives depended on being able to put it in my file. I dunno if it’s just that practice but it’s a little bit alarming.

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Any bit of pushback is important. They need to feel it

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bannedninjabit 4 points ago +5 / -1

Check the forums at the desk. I had a few that say the want to share your medical information: including pictures and video.

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Changed777 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I haven't seen anything like that before. That would be a big NO

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Trilby 4 points ago +4 / -0

I have my doc well-trained. She knows I don't do any of the prospecting for problems that's so popular now, like mammos, colonoscopies, none of that. At my last routine physical, she said shyly, "Can I offer you a rectal exam?" I said "You wish!"

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Changed777 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hahaha you wish .. Lolol

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lixa 2 points ago +2 / -0

Btw a GI Effects stool test from home tells you way more than a colonoscopy and replaces that pretty much. You can also run it without her.

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Trilby 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thanks but I'm not interested. I'd rather be surprised.

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Cacciali_Via 1 point ago +1 / -0

How does the home kit remove polyps before they can become cancerous? Or is that not desirable?

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lixa 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’m talking about as a diagnostic tool not a treatment tool.

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JMaN 3 points ago +4 / -1

Teach children this and they will outsmart ALL doctors good and bad. Place doctors in their place. God bless you. This is a very important post.

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thanks

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Vermino 3 points ago +3 / -0

The state is trying to incentivize get my wife to start talking and encouraging her patients about getting the vaccine. Her and her colleagues won't do it. They just gave a big middle finger to Jay Inslee.

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lixa 6 points ago +6 / -0

Nothing has ever been more suspect about this injection than the desperation with which they’re are trying to bribe people into it.

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Cacciali_Via 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'd say that is where 50% of the "hesitancy" comes from.

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Changed777 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wow. Can I ask what kind of Dr she is? I may need to move.

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Vermino 1 point ago +1 / -0

She is a Marriage & Family Therapist. But she works in a PCP (primary care physician) office. So all of her colleagues (PCP's) won't push that crap onto their customers.

Steven's County is literally North Idaho's Ideology; just with a Washington State name to it. (Most of our town didn't shut down from the plandemic)

Think our vaccination rate is around 24% as well.

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Idaho sounds great

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Perhelion 3 points ago +4 / -1

To me, it’s clear they are tracking the patients who get it done and (most especially) the ones that refuse. She did right by refusing to answer, even though the doctor likely put her down as a refusal anyway.

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Changed777 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, definitely

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Bionic_Unicorn 1 point ago +3 / -2

They are of course tracking everyone who gets it, because this is a medical trial. That's why I like, "I'm in the control group", as a response to this question.

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Changed777 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's a good point

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Cavemantrump 3 points ago +3 / -0

Amazing

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JR_Butterbean 3 points ago +3 / -0

Be careful what you tell doctors. It gets documented. A friend of mine was denied a life insurance policy for "drug or alcohol abuse" and he's the most straight and narrow dude I know. Only thing he could figure is he told a doctor he sometimes drinks 3-5 beers after work about 10 years prior. You being unvaccinated WILL be marked on your health records and used against you later on

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think I'm going to find a new dr

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Magafactured 2 points ago +2 / -0

She does us all a favor by taking her stand.

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Changed777 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah my husband said that the Dr 'needs to know there are privacy issues and that there's pushback'

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PonySoldier66 2 points ago +2 / -0

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TheTrumpDimension 2 points ago +2 / -0

"what are your hesitations" me and my guns, move on

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Haha

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Ronpaulblican2 2 points ago +2 / -0

I told my doc that if he was vaccinated then he had nothing to worry about. He said you could still get it. I said that it doesn’t sound like much of a vaccine then. Pass.

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Changed777 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's the perfect response

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Pirate_Lafitte 2 points ago +2 / -0

I would just hand him a printed out version of the ivermectin meta-analysis and tell him "there is already a cheap, safe, and effective alternative, so there is no need to take some experimental drug with potentially deadly side effects"

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Good strategy. I like that. That's what id actually like to say. I mean I'd like to actually find a Dr who will prescribe it.

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FredRedd 2 points ago +2 / -0

I’m applying for a job tomorrow, I’m going to keep this one files near the front of my possible answers in case I’m asked.

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Changed777 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Let us know how it goes if anyone asks

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FredRedd 1 point ago +1 / -0

I was asked. I said (politely, without any kind of angst), “I don’t discuss this topic”. Immediately backed off.

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I really like that way of handling it

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rcstl 2 points ago +2 / -0

When I went, the Dr. asked when my last blood test was. I replied, around the start of the coronahoax. I thought I saw a glint above her mask! haha Later, when she was going over vaccines I was "eligible" for, nary a word about the death jab. Smart Dr.

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hahaha!!! That's hilarious

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Malamuter 2 points ago +2 / -0

My VA nurse asked if I wanted it once. Asked if I was on the fence about it or just not interested. She then said she only asks because if I’m not interested they flag it so I don’t get bombarded by phone calls constantly telling me that the vax is available if I want it

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Huh they flag it. Interesting. Prob is for the calls, but you know tyrants. Yikes.

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horus_falke 1 point ago +1 / -0

Wtf is a medical group, let alone a medical privacy group? What does being in such a group hold bearing in the explanation to the doctor that she will not answer? It seems like the plan from that group is to hide behind them but it doesn't really work when it's a single person sitting in a doctor's office. Nobody has ever heard of a "medical privacy group" before. Idk, it all sounds so stupid to me. She couldn't just say "that is private information I will not discuss"?

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah... She could have. Maybe she should have said that. Were still trying to figure out how to best handle it. It's changing all the time as things progress too. We talked about how to handle it. It would be easy to just say no. Or the side effects are this and this. Or whatever. What we're focused on at this point is the sinister use of the Dr knowing what we think. She purposefully made her answer to be obscure and confusing and NOT tell her point blank she wasn't vaxxed. I understand it's weird Bec... You want medical privacy? But you're here at the Dr talking about everything else. We're working through it. Have tried lots of different tactics.

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FLVoter 1 point ago +1 / -0

It’s on her permanent record

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CATaxSlave 1 point ago +1 / -0

Good for her. We all fight in our own ways. What's important is that we fight and we support those around us who fight as well.

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ya, I get that. I really do.

On a side note....I wonder if they would actually let your having had the vaccine affect anything they do with you though. I mean ppl are literally having convulsions after it and the drs are like 'oh, I WONDER what this could BE? What's that? Nope nope nope nothing to do with the vax... Impossible.' so...

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Surfsup 1 point ago +5 / -4

Why are they all pushing? I would just say, HIPPA law's prevent you from asking. If they asked again I'd tell them to stop asking

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Thunderbolt45 10 points ago +12 / -2

HIPPA laws don't prevent them from ASKING. They prevent your medical provider from SHARING your medical info without your consent.

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stealthboy 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's "HIPAA". Just FYI.

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Pepe-Meme 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ask the Dr about the super duper bad variant......

Anal Super Spreader variant!

So, Just ask the doctor if he has seen the A.S.S. Variant yet...

then find another doctor!

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The_Nowhere_Man 1 point ago +1 / -0

Dude you need Jesus and to remember this is a board for your fellow pedes. Maybe instead of attacking them you should simply suggest they say yes or no?

You sound like a leftist that came here to divide the pedes and turn them against each other. Maybe calm down.

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The_Nowhere_Man 1 point ago +1 / -0

The internet as a whole has some messed up stuff. Doesn’t mean I agree with it and can’t speak out on the stuff I see that I feel like speaking out on. That’s a freedom I’m sure someone with 1776 in their user name understands.

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The_Nowhere_Man 1 point ago +1 / -0

Saying Jesus is a cuck? Yeah no thanks. You're on your own with that one.

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

You think she REALLY just COULDN'T say yes or no? Well. If you would really like to know. My daughter is definitely not spineless. She would have said whatever she thought was most effective. She and her siblings are all college age and if you knew how they stood in the throes of their peers, standing against socialism, you would be humbled. A spineless 'cunt' doesn't stand ALONE against rabid leftist peers. Do you understand the gravity of that? And what do you know about her sex life? We worked hard to raise decent human beings. They respect our country, or Founders, our Constitution and God. They also respect men (even knee jerk rude ones) and aren't whores. You may be talking about 99 percent of girls out there, but mine are a needle in a haystack, only saying it because you're attacking, and you would be LUCKY to have one or to have your son have one. I will venture to say, you have probably never met a girl like this one. Oh.... And she's beautiful. I might let you or your son meet her if you clean up your attitude.

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

You really are short sighted, aren't you? I posted so that ppl would have another option for when they encounter their dr. Yeah about spineless... You have to keep deleting your sickening comments. You have a really ugly personality.

But I'm sure you've been told that before.

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lol. Boy I do I feel sorry for your parents.

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh would you now? That's funny... because I find you to be repulsive and a man with no integrity or self control and I AM THE WIFE. If you weren't so illiterate you'd know that already you dope!

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Haha.. That would be a little much for a young girl.. The same Dr last year told me that she had had a man earlier that morning that she had to ask to leave because he was getting really aggressive with her abt it. Wasn't you was it? Lol

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PezzShivers -6 points ago +1 / -7

I mean... this is good and all, but she's literally at the 1 place where you would want to tell someone weather or not you have it.

Besides... The doctor has the ability to just go and look it up himself.

Good for her, but like it's the one place where you would want to reveal that information.

It may have just been the way you shortened down the conversation with the nurse but she might have been asking her that bc she had noticed a little anomaly on her Blood Pressure.

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Changed777 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I do totally agree with you. My husband told her to say the privacy group thing. I was like, yeah.. But she's going in and telling her every other piece of private information so.

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Changed777 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah... Unless they have a mega Covid vax registry that every Dr has access to. My experience is that if you get a vax it is only in the system of that specific medical group. You have to have the records transferred. There is a main vaccine registry, but you still have to have records transferred. I don't think there is a main 666 registry yet

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PezzShivers 0 points ago +1 / -1

Their medical file on you...

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PezzShivers 1 point ago +1 / -0

Telling someone who works with it everyday that they don't know how it works... Thats cool I guess.

You are right to an extent

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The_Nowhere_Man 1 point ago +1 / -0

Let us assume the young lady in question said no and the nurse and/or doctor began to press about it. What would you recommend the response to be? To keep the nurse/doctor on topic for the day's visit and not to push the Vax?

Because to me it sounds like the family just didn't want to deal with the push and to stand up for their rights not to take it.

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Changed777 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah. We didn't want her to have our own word that she wasn't vaxxed. And also wanted the Dr (who is a tool of the tyrants) to understand that she doesn't just get what she wants. Now if she cared about her patients first and not her patient's role in the greater good, we wouldn't have handled it this way. Idk. I swing between hammering her with facts and being elusive. Since we're dealing with seeds of Naziism here... We went with elusive. Plus my husband is smarter than I am and he said to let her know there is pushback with privacy issues despite all the info they think they have a right to track.

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PezzShivers 1 point ago +1 / -0

Which might have exactly the case and is what I had assumed was the case.

I was just saying the thing about blood pressure to show the other side it.

OP actually made a comment to me saying that she agrees with me and then gave a little more contex and said this

We're feeling our way through this with the Dr. When I saw the Dr awhile back, she had told me that 'oh the govt won't be able to control ppl. The only thing they can control is stopping ppl from traveling. Which I think they should." She is completely ignorant of issues of freedom, the Founders and tyranny.>

And based on that U probably would have done the same thing

Edit: based on that "I" probably would've done the same thing. (I meant to say I,not U)

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The_Nowhere_Man 2 points ago +2 / -0

Which is all well and good but you didn’t answer the question I posed. I want to know what your suggestion might be for a response to a doctor or nurse. You mentioned in a post that you are a nurse so I want to garner some insight from someone working in the field.

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PezzShivers 1 point ago +1 / -0

Did I ever answer this question? I remember I had about half of it finished and then I fell asleep while typing