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posted ago by Indefatigable_Winner ago by Indefatigable_Winner +2969 / -0

I’m seriously considering leaving over this issue. I have a great job and love it. About to hit 12 years an a few weeks. I’m in a good place financially, no debt, two rental houses-one paid for. Wife and two kids. Housing is taken care of. I’d need to figure out medical care and a job. Anybody have any suggestions on employment? I know it’s a wide open question.

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TheRealJaredHolt 430 points ago +435 / -5

Leave. Take whatever discharge they'll give you. Honestly in a year not one person that matters will give a flying fuck if this cucked military thinks youre "other than honorable" or not.

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BostonVoter 269 points ago +270 / -1

I came here to say this. Somethings wrong. They're coming for you, they don't respect you , ( or us) they hate us ... shits really strange. Run away

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Shadowreaper07 171 points ago +171 / -0

I'd consider it a tactical retreat.

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TwoPlusTwoEqualsFour 55 points ago +55 / -0

Need ammo brb!

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Blandeaux 60 points ago +62 / -2

Trying to hijack top of thread to say you might be able to find a doctor to squirt that shit out in the trash. I've heard of such things

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MoreSaltPlease 29 points ago +31 / -2

I have heard of such things as well, they exist and it’s being done across many industries requiring prof of vax. Find a trustworthy friend or family member, someone knows someone, a doctor, a nurse, a pharmacist etc. There are people willing to pay significant sums of money for this service.

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Sirbigusdickus 3 points ago +8 / -5

I’ll suck your cock for a vaccine passport.

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Jaunty_Haul 1 point ago +1 / -0

I am sure you would

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jerrycan111 2 points ago +6 / -4

God people are such fucking cucks

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mecheng03 10 points ago +10 / -0

I disagree, then they have you for lying and that is just as punishable. Stay true to who you are and force their hand. That's what I plan to do and I'm fully vax except covid and anthrax. If the army wants to dictate medical decisions that are permanent then I'm out/peace. They are already fucking with my leave and I would just prefer they put it all on the table now.

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TwoPlusTwoEqualsFour 1 point ago +2 / -1

One time I heard about a slutty nun.

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Climbsurf 4 points ago +4 / -0

I’d call it displacing to friendly lines at this point

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RachetQueen2020 34 points ago +34 / -0

Especially, after the mess with Agent Orange and Gulf War Syndrome.

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Iteachfuckingscience 14 points ago +14 / -0

I’d seriously consider teaching. The next generation needs your experience and knowledge.

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socrates2 10 points ago +11 / -1

They are pulling same shit on teachers. Walmart is requiring all managers to get it. Like that makes sense.

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NakaTrash 133 points ago +134 / -1

Agreed. A dishonorable discharge is about to become a lot less dishonorable

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ObviatingTyranny 134 points ago +134 / -0

You will never get a DD for this. The most they can slap you with is disobeying a direct order, which will be administratively set to Honorable Discharge.

Fight. Never disobey an order. They order you to report to medical, report to medical. Then decline. Religious exemption.

Running is no longer an option. For anyone. They are coming for you. Nobody may run, we must ALL stand and fight where we are, as best we can, for as long as we can.

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nutup_orshutup 32 points ago +32 / -0

They are talking about court martial and DD. Rumors so far.

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MagaMilitarum 51 points ago +52 / -1

Just push for religious exemption 110% that's the most simple answer. Go to behavioral health if necessary instead of showing up to the vaccine rodeo, your c.o.c can't interfere with you going to BH and you don't need a good reason to go.

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GainesvilleFlorida 30 points ago +30 / -0

Someone should post a lengthy Military Life Pro Tips For all the younger ones.

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2020riggedelection 6 points ago +7 / -1

This is a dumb question but what religion is against vaccines. If they ask follow up questions saying what religion are you, why is this against your religion, what do you says then.

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snuggs316 18 points ago +18 / -0

it's what's in the vaccines...aborted fetal tissue. also, if you're a jehovah's witness; from what i understand, they don't even allow blood transfusions.

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Good_Ole_Arky_Gal 9 points ago +10 / -1

The rule actually states that the religion you claim has to have a known objection. So I wasn't able to say aborted cells because I'm a baptist because it's not in any rules they would accept. The only one I know of is jehovahs witness... brush up on what they believe if you're gonna claim it

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Patriots_dont_kneel 2 points ago +2 / -0

They'll just give you the ones without, like Pfizer or Moderna.

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MoonLevelStop 11 points ago +11 / -0

what religion is against vaccines

All Christians are against the kind of authoritarianism that would permit control over your buying and selling; those passports are inching creepily close to Mark of the Beast territory.

And some of the vaccines contain embryonic stem cells, which the pro-life crowd considers equivalent to child murder.

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Patriots_dont_kneel 0 points ago +1 / -1

So they'll just give you the one that doesn't have them.

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KennethsFrequency 8 points ago +8 / -0

In Christian religion, a one world government stooge forces his "mark" on everyone and those who refuse the mark are excluded from society ...to be further persecuted

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Azrael1776 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is the mark of the beast 100%.

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Sirbigusdickus 2 points ago +2 / -0

Christina Scientists

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bobbybadass 1 point ago +1 / -0

Vaccine's NOT halal or kosher. Feel free to claim you are a kike or shitskin to utilize a religious exception.

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dakin116 1 point ago +1 / -0

It’s funny pretty much every religion except Christianity can claim medical exemptions on stuff like this

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Southboundanddown 1 point ago +1 / -0

Religious exemption might be an option, if one were a mooslim or hindu or something. Christian? Nah, no room for that in the military anymore.

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ObviatingTyranny 11 points ago +11 / -0

yeah rumors are like barracks rats. They fuck everybody.

Only be concerned with what is official. They are not going to DD half a million uniformed servicemembers.

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FrostedCricketFlakes 11 points ago +11 / -0

Republicans are less likely to be accept mRNA. Removing them from the military weakens it greatly, but I don't doubt how far they're willing to go for political goals.

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Leeboscan 13 points ago +13 / -0

Destroying America's military readiness to fight is just another pillar they've been planning to topple anyway.

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Good_Ole_Arky_Gal 5 points ago +5 / -0

How many did they discharge over the anthrax vaccines?

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ObviatingTyranny 1 point ago +1 / -0

Dishonorably? The question isn't whether or not you're going to get discharged, the question is whether or not it will be punitive.

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Good_Ole_Arky_Gal 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not sure. Meryl Nass tried to help in those court cases. She said every member was found guilty and not one was allowed to bring evidence of the shot hurting people. She has a blog about it, shes still trying to stop it because the company is still trying to force it.

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FucKamala 1 point ago +1 / -0

^this

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Racerx719 1 point ago +1 / -0

My man speaking some sense here.

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pedepie 4 points ago +4 / -0

talking about it to scare you into complying.

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FucKamala 1 point ago +1 / -0

Posturing. Won't happen

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Gadsden 22 points ago +22 / -0

Reposting this here, because it relates, and there 250 comments. Haha

Let them kick you out and sue their asses into the ground. I'm in the same boat, except civilian government position.

I'm not getting the Vax. They'll have to fire me. Then they'll have to justify it in court.

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BeijingJoeHastoGo 37 points ago +38 / -1

I'm going to pivot my law practice to filing section 1983 civil rights violation lawsuits and class actions against corporations and the US government for this unconstitutional bullshit. And Nuremburg Code violations as well. I have a new life's calling.

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StolenElectionsKill 14 points ago +14 / -0

This whole nightmare since Nov 3 has made me wish I'd gone to law school, so I could do what you are doing now. Godspeed to you.

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Gadsden 7 points ago +7 / -0

I salute you, sir. If you make a thread, I'll save it for when I need it. Which I think I will.

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Lucille 3 points ago +3 / -0

I will need this service

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NimbleNomad9 2 points ago +2 / -0

Want to go up against a state government/public higher ed? It's coming down the pipeline I'm sure.

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BeijingJoeHastoGo 1 point ago +1 / -0

I've gone up against the AG of the United States - John Ashcroft - and won. But judges today seem less willing to confront governmental abuse.

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onesummerdream 1 point ago +1 / -0

Maybe you could tell me/us if these religious exception forms are valid. The link was posted here yesterday — which lead to Andrew Torba from GAB:

https://news.gab.com/2021/07/29/important-download-covid-vaccine-religious-exemption-documents-here/

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TXNFOURDJT 5 points ago +5 / -0

Same here. Luckily my retirement date is soon. Was on hold waiting to talk to someone for almost an hour. Gab has a religious exemption form that I'll try to stall them with until my retirement date. I also have over nine months of sick leave and I'm ready to use it all.

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ObviatingTyranny 66 points ago +66 / -0

Who gives you your shot? Your First Sergeant?

No.

You fight by resisting every step of the way and forcing their hand. You fight by filing religious exemption. You fight with lawsuits. You make them discharge or fire you.

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GainesvilleFlorida 20 points ago +23 / -3

If all these men are “afraid”, umm do we really want them fighting for us anyway? What’s the difference between a pansy gay lefty fighting on a front line and a “conservative” man afraid of getting fired?

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Axiom502 16 points ago +17 / -1

Fucking pathetic for real

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GainesvilleFlorida 1 point ago +1 / -0

It can only last so long. This is America, rooted on non-compliance. Either it will get really bad over the next 60-80 years before the next generation wises up, or will it simmer down to manageable and take 100 years till we basically absorb into China.

China has no freedom, including sexual deviancy, so they are in a weird place

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Olds777 12 points ago +13 / -1

Go watch Hacksaw Ridge. The man stood up for his convictions, risked a court martial and prison and went on to save dozens of lives and win the Medal of Honor.

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Olds777 2 points ago +2 / -0

Stop being so defeatist and no, most people are not agreeing with the bullshit on TV as cable news ratings have never, ever been lower. If the left was popular they wouldn't have had to cheat massively during the coronavirus to get in office. There are many more of us than them and more wake up by the day to call BS on what they were programmed to believe.

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geekesmind 1 point ago +3 / -2

bought hacksaw ridge when it came out in 2016 and I have yet to watch it.

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Aletheia 2 points ago +2 / -0

Watch it tonight, it's awesome

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Awakened 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’m the same way. Especially with that movie. Sounded like I was going to have to work to enjoy it because of the subject matter, but it’s an amazing movie. And I can’t stand the main actor. Hated his Spider-Man movies. Just hate his face. Really.

One of the most gripping stories I ever watched. It’s Saturday. You deserve it. Put it in.

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Olds777 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why? You have something against awesome movies or something?

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iamherefortheluls 10 points ago +10 / -0

when you quit, you save them from doing a bunch of work to have you fired, in any job. military especially.

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Llanos 5 points ago +5 / -0

With that attitude you are right.

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grndmrshlgando 11 points ago +11 / -0

they wanna say good guys leaving their sick experiment is dishonorable? no. the military is dishonorable. the military is dishonorable. the military is dishonorable.

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1776ThereIsaidIt 5 points ago +5 / -0

In light of the way the military is being cucked a dishonorable will be a badge of honor.

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BeijingJoeHastoGo 5 points ago +5 / -0

Dishonestly discharged by literally Hitler. Not a bad thing.

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Snooptwo 40 points ago +44 / -4

I mean, get those VA benefits.

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TheRealJaredHolt 65 points ago +65 / -0

If that benefit includes a mandatory clotshot, fuck that. No benefits are worth that.

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TwoPlusTwoEqualsFour 12 points ago +12 / -0

It's almost like people that are hired to be paid with stolen money then out to be morally bereft shitbags.

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Ivleeeg 36 points ago +41 / -5

VA requires vaccination before they'll treat you.

EDIT: I stand corrected, they require their employees to be vaccinated.

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SorosHasBallsackEyes 14 points ago +14 / -0

The VA now requires their employees to be vaccinated, but I have not seen anything indicating that they require their patients to be vaccinated.

If you have a source, please post.

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Fr330rD13 5 points ago +5 / -0

Retired military. Fuck getting vaxxed, not doing it.

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ExposeElites 4 points ago +4 / -0

not true

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kornesque 6 points ago +6 / -0

Well, you savingy thumbs some work. Thanks.

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GainesvilleFlorida 4 points ago +4 / -0

Another take for u/Indefatigable_Winner

This is a MASSIVE unethical (possibly fraudulent) plan to thin the herd and reduce payroll by the billions.

I know someone that just barely made General and was forced out over 20 years ago. Military is ALL about kicking people out and getting fresh meat in,on the carrot that that can make a lifelong fruitful fulfilling career of it.

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Changed777 195 points ago +195 / -0

Andrew Torba recently was sent some what he called ’'iron clad' exemption forms for military. I'll get the link

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Bumbaclot 110 points ago +110 / -0

This is the way. We still need Redpills in the military. Sorry to ask you to sacrifice more fren.

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kornesque 21 points ago +21 / -0

This is only one of the problems our fren is facing, remember what Austin said right after the inauguration about how the military is literally extremism?

This is what he needs to do: https://youtu.be/uQwjojvRNI4

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Racerx719 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is the way

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Its_never_random 38 points ago +38 / -0

Thanks. Hubby needs this too.

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Annpi 37 points ago +37 / -0

God bless Andrew!!

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Standby 28 points ago +28 / -0

Oh my God, thank you so much for linking this. I didn't realize this existed. He even has a template for Air Force which is exactly what I need! I've been praying about this for the last few days and stressing about it so much, I finally feel some relief now that I have this memo in hand and ready to go if (when) they mandate the vaccine.

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Perhelion 19 points ago +19 / -0

God bless you. Just forwarded this link to the only active duty guy I know.

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Patriot62 1 point ago +1 / -0

We're screwed. Getting this exemption puts a huge target on our backs, a list for everyone at the top to see. They're telling us you can't take leave out of a 70 mile radius without top "leadership" approval without the clot shot. And being on this list means they'll know when I'm not wearing a face diaper 100 percent of the time. Military owns me another 8 years. If I get kicked out I'll owe hundreds of thousands. I'm screwed.

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TrudopesEyebrow 37 points ago +37 / -0

Yes. I hear Tinnitis is impossible to prove.
and TBI’s common too

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Hbosux 10 points ago +10 / -0

That's not totally true, they have a test that can "see" how the inner ear hairs are damaged. So not always the best way to go.

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TheDTOMDon 14 points ago +15 / -1

I have bad tinnitus with zero hearing damage. Ten years of panic attacks will do that.

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Junionthepipeline 11 points ago +11 / -0

You get used to it but it never stops sucking.

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SweetCheeses 5 points ago +5 / -0

Unfortunately.

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Wanderlust 3 points ago +3 / -0

Ever tried the head thump thing? Seems to work for some people with tinnitus for temporary relief. Pardon the dramatized video.

https://youtu.be/KBgkPOGD6gw?t=116

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TheDTOMDon 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sounds wacky, I’ll give it a try, thanks.

I’ve found my tinnitus is a 12.5khz square wave listening to yt videos. Hearing the tone for a bit will kill the ringing for me for a few minutes.

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Wanderlust 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh that's interesting that that works for relief. Thanks for sharing. Maybe I'll bump into someone else I can help with that one.

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Diotima 3 points ago +3 / -0

Impossible? Not for me i had a lot of stuff in my medical records regarding ear ringing

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kornesque 7 points ago +7 / -0

For being genetically intact?! 😂 It's so ridiculous it might work.

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thedonburgundy 4 points ago +4 / -0

Has seizure on floor after morning PT on Monday, goes to long battery of tests, inconclusive, medically on hold for a while, drags out profile years until can medically retire..ages old script. Seek barracks lawyer now! Preferably one who rose to chief warrant

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RabbleRabbleRabble 106 points ago +109 / -3

100% leave the military.

Stay at home with your family for what little time is left.

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Rainman 27 points ago +27 / -0

There's a new program that allows you to separate temporarily from the Army, I can't recall the name of it but ask your S1 they can tell you

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ObviatingTyranny 19 points ago +21 / -2

No. Running is no longer an option. For anyone.

Every person must stand and fight where we are. We are the majority. We are right. Hold your ground and never give an inch that isn't taken.

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Bonsil -59 points ago +11 / -70

Why do you call it a death jab? COVID has a higher death/adverse reaction rate fat higher than the vaccine. I work in a region full of sick/disabled/elderly people, and around 12,000 of these old cunts got it, some of em had a fever for a day and it went away. This is in Melbourne Australia. I had my "death jab" 2nd one early this year. I don't get it, is it a meme or something, I dont really follow along with semantics, I am here because I support your free speech stuff and getting banned off Reddit for tamer shit than leftists do daily

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medicpatriot 19 points ago +22 / -3

I also personally don’t believe it’s THAT dangerous, but at this point I’m not getting it out of principle. I have also seen complications from the vaccine on my hospital, so it isn’t without risk.

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Bonsil 0 points ago +2 / -2

Yea real shame that. I still have my firearms license. I can own anything except full auto, pistol, or short barreled SLR. Pretty decent. Not for defence though

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massivehairycleaner 14 points ago +14 / -0

Most covid cases are the flu, diagnosed with a test that can't tell the difference,

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Diotima 11 points ago +11 / -0

There are unknown long term side effects. Also it doesn't do anything against delta varient. Natural immunity is the only way were getting out of this.

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JimQPublic 66 points ago +66 / -0

What's your primary skillset and (roughly, don't dox yourself) where are you stationed? If you're looking for employment, pedes with those connections need to know what you can do.

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BidensWetNurse 50 points ago +50 / -0

jobs.win

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MAGA_Argent_Crusade 15 points ago +15 / -0

Someone please make this.

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MuhNameJeff 15 points ago +15 / -0

Mods! u/Doggos Can we make a jobs.win site?

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FrankDrebin 10 points ago +10 / -0

Until LeftTech infiltrates in, doxxes everyone and then destroys it.

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Anaconda -43 points ago +8 / -51

it would get taken over by the left and stormfags like everything else

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nickybops 37 points ago +38 / -1

You cry more about stormfags then you do the left. Can you elaborate on your early life, Anaconda? No reason.

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TheDTOMDon 15 points ago +16 / -1

Anaconda don’t want none unless you’re a fed, son.

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Brendancs0 7 points ago +8 / -1

no one gives a shit about racism you dumb ass move on.

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Junionthepipeline 2 points ago +2 / -0

Good you can have friends finally

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CovfefeNegro 56 points ago +56 / -0

Thanks for your Service.

Talk to the Chaplain, religious objections, ethical objections, scientific objections, medical objections. Use your informal chain of command and also the First Shirt, softly on the Shirt they sometimes are goofy, or other senior NCos, unless you're an Officer.

Know what you will do before time but hang on, this could change or hit courts or... anything.

Tickle the Staff Judge Advocate, or whatever your office is. Again softly, but breach it with them, they are 'supposed' to offer you truth and confidentiality.

Employment out here.... well I'm in Texas, there are some prospects for people here.

A 'lot' of job openings for truckers, owner/operators for instance.

Medical is hiring in a lot of places.

I 'think' aviation is hiring if you happen to have avionics/mechanical skillz.

Lots of trades are hiring, roads and housing construction.

Good luck, 12 years in is a good while, hope it all works out.

https://files.catbox.moe/e4h2uj.jpg

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Spez_Isacuck 12 points ago +12 / -0

You must be a USAF vet.

The Army calls the First Sergeant “Top.” I always liked “Shirt” better.

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CovfefeNegro 22 points ago +22 / -0

Yeah, USAF, not all of us were qualified for the Army. But it's not our fault that our parents were married, and to each other...

Sorry Army, no Friendly Fire just an exercise.

https://files.catbox.moe/al3eiu.jpg

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malkontent2024 26 points ago +26 / -0

Chair Force strikes again, Like usual from behind a desk, miles away. So brave So stronk. /poke

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signature226 10 points ago +10 / -0

I learned so much about the Army from my time as a USAF NCO taking shits in the Camp Arifjan trailers.

So many “Asian glory holes” in the desert.

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malkontent2024 7 points ago +7 / -0

Wouldnt know. They only let the fags hang out in kuwait.

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skuls308 3 points ago +3 / -0

Only time I spent at Fucking Arifjan was in Feb03. When we demobed in Mar04, I couldn't believe my eyes. REMF's galore!

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Diotima 1 point ago +1 / -0

Isn't that in Qatar?

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Diotima 1 point ago +1 / -0

My job in the AF was 99% outside and a lot of field duties. Not all of us sat in front of screens.

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Spez_Isacuck 2 points ago +2 / -0

KEK

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Diotima 3 points ago +3 / -0

I had no idea. I'm former AF here. Back in the pre covid days got out in 2014. I can't imagine what it's like anymore.

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Konig 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nothing like it was in 2014, you wouldn't begin to believe...

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HiddenDekuScrub 3 points ago +3 / -0

This. Force them to fire you. Until then, hold steady.

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YoJoeGoJoe 2 points ago +2 / -0

Just remember, the Staff Judge Advocate is the Commander’s lawyer, not yours. Their job is to keep the boss out of trouble.

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CovfefeNegro 1 point ago +1 / -0

That isn't how it worked in the USAF, they were loyal to the Law, not the Commander. That was a long time ago tho...

https://files.catbox.moe/3s0dbf.jpg

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XlDEN 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yes, an entire army of woke transfags.

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ObongoForPrison2020 31 points ago +31 / -0

I don't have any advice except figure it out, because you're useless to your wife and kids if you're dead. Don't take it.

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WenOli311 17 points ago +17 / -0

I agree even before your country, as it is right now your wife and kids are first they will need you and are lucky to have you. Thank you Patriot for your service! ❤️🇺🇸

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BS2020 31 points ago +31 / -0

Go to the JAG Office -- FIRST THING: ask them if all your questions fall under client lawyer privilege's.

Then, ell them, you understand that by legal definition the Covid vaccine is not a vaccine as it DOES NOT provide immunity from the virus for which it is intended. Ask them if that is correct. If they say NO it is a vaccine, ask them to provide a legal definition on what a vaccine is and that the Covid vaccine meets the legal requirements -- tell them you would simply like documentation for your DD 214 when you get discharged.

Then inform JAG that you are worried about the numerous cases of blood clots and other side effects, can the JAG Office provide a list of ALL side effects for him and what are your rights if you have ANY pre-consisting conditions to refuse the Vax

Then ask them, since the vaccine is technically not approved as a vaccine, even though it is NOT legally a vaccine, isn't it illegal, according to the Nuremberg Code that regarding the forced use of unapproved medications or vaccines.

Then ask them, what is your legal right to be discharged honorably with all pay and benefits for the contract you sighed if you do NOT take this vaccine?

Get documentation for all of this and ell all your buddies.

They will want to tell you to go through your Chain of Command, but tell them are are not equipped to answer these legal questions and that is why the JAG Office exists. If they refuse to answer the questions, tell them you would like the name of the officer who is refusing to provide legal counsel and that you are going to document this.

I AM NOT A LAWYER AND THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE -- I AM A FORMER MARINE and I understand the Chain of Command and how it is often set up to circumvent your legal rights, even in the military -- so ask these questions -- at a minimum -- you force them to acknowledge that you have concerns and that you don't want to comply, document everything, and get back to us here -- good luck and don't roll over.

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TheTuckerDiaries 26 points ago +28 / -2

In the next 18 months the US Army will have long been declared an enemy of The People. I wanted to join the army a few years ago and I know the feeling of wanting to be part of it. But we must come to terms with the fact that that organization as it stood is now gone. Please leave and join the separate society where you will be much happier in the long run.

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Littleirishmaid 22 points ago +23 / -1

Start your own business. Use your skills.

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BasedInvestor 22 points ago +22 / -0

While the vaccines are dangerous to those who take them - I'm starting to suspect that the real danger, the real agenda, is to use these "Leaky Vaccines" to generate new strains that are potentially more deadly. The question is - are those going to be more dangerous for vaxxed or unvaxxed?

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BLMadeMeRaysis 11 points ago +11 / -0

China: "Why not both?"

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Lazy8 8 points ago +8 / -0

This right here is my real concern too

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RStroud 7 points ago +7 / -0

You're on the right track. All 3 shots available in the us are novel, 2 use mRNA and 1 uses adenovirus. They all make a very similar spike protein (though not exactly the same). There are at least a dozen different vaccines on the market outside the US using various methods. I don't think all of them are going to induce the same pattern of antibodies.

Either way, given what's currently known, I would feel at least as good having had the coof and recovered as having the availabile shots. Reinfection is way lower (if we can trust various sources) than the incidence of vaccinated people picking up some variant.

If you've been infected previously, and it is likely you have, I wouldn't sweat it. You can get a serological test to know for sure. If you haven't, you likely will be infected by the delta variant(s) at some point. If you survive (you likely won't even know you ever had it) you'll be even better off than those with the current vaccine.

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IeatCrakerzNbed 5 points ago +5 / -0

With natural immunity, no variant can mutate into anything that your immune system hasn't already developed the antibodies for.

This info is from the inventor of the mRNA vaccines that was banned from all the Socialist Media sites.

Another point he stressed is if you have the natural antibodies from an infection, DO NOT get the mRNA therapeutics, they'll compromise your natural immunity and increase 2 likelihoods. 1. Immuno-compromise, the spike proteins will cause your immune system to attack the tissue that makes up your organs. 2. Your Lymphatic Compromise will cause your system to generate mutations to any virus your immune system has developed a natural immunity to.

This is the intentional use of these gene therapeutic shots as a bioweapon. Once your body is fucked you'll be dependent on the plethora of coded mRNA therapeutics that they've been patenting since 2008. Biochemical gene therapy dependence. The pharma corps are creating a brand new field of pharmaceutically dependent lab rats.

Note: this is just me trying to reiterate what I've committed to memory in the way I understood it. He was talking about prion crystals and cytokines and shit and lost me. Something about how they know the natural immunity makes IGMs that are proof that it has antibody codes that attack all the variants an original contagion can create. I'm no immunologist, but I'd trust the guy who developed these shots. The BioNTech J&J shit I guess is adenovirus and I guess that's the one that causes the clotting and your immune system attacking your organ tissue. But again this is the basis of it as I understood and could relay the information the best I could.

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GravityBounce1976 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think the real goal is to identify patriots and weed them out of the military so that only commies remain.

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BasedInvestor 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's definitely a big part of it

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Ifbullshitwerebuscui 21 points ago +21 / -0

Thank you for your service. I would refuse but I'm sure there a consequences.

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tombombadil86 19 points ago +20 / -1

Make them fire you so you can sue them later. Also, go get your cdl, always plenty of truck driving jobs available if you're in a pinch.

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ChiefCRON 15 points ago +15 / -0

Brother.... Take the discharge and find a civilian job in security, right now depending on what state you reside in jobs are desperate to find people to hire and I'm sure there are tons of based employers who would love to add a hero to their workforce... Just my opinion sir .. also thank you for your service, it is greatly appreciated 🇺🇲

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NancysMinge 12 points ago +12 / -0

Run for office. We need patriots who served to clean up this mess

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Susurro 12 points ago +12 / -0

We're going to need you healthy if/when full ADE kicks in and massive amount of Vaxxed die off. I foresee a semi-civilian militia army taking over after that. If the politicians really got the thing (and not just fake saline injections) they'll be dead too. Martial law by the remaining, recently-forced out patriots may not be so far fetched an idea.

Stay strong, pede. God speed. We stand up now or freedom is gone forever.

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Highball 11 points ago +11 / -0

Leave. I left after 12 years. They said, "how will you survive, how will you make money, how will you get a job?" Well, here I am, top 10% of earners in the country. And to be honest, the money doesn't even matter. You just need a job, build your family, build your friendships, and build your faith. Money means nothing. So pay off you cc's and get the fuck out. Know, no matter what, there is life after the military. Get out and never look back.

My best advice.

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Diotima 3 points ago +3 / -0

I knew plenty of guys in your shoes... some may say stick it out for 20 but after 2 or 3 contracts a lot are fed up and broken. God bless those who can stay fit to fight till 20 but after 6 my body was shot.

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Indefatigable_Winner [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks. This is good!

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Late2theparty 10 points ago +10 / -0

They are going to send you into a grinder anyways if Biden stays in office. You are better as a militia man in their planned depopulation of America.

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Groundpounder 9 points ago +9 / -0

“Our enemies would never try to kill us or our military!” <~~ every leftist, ever

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Cpl_McMerica_1775 9 points ago +9 / -0

Medical discharge

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sgt_richard 8 points ago +8 / -0

Just got same from my job. Not doing it. Absolutely refused.

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Diotima 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm contemplating just lying and saying I got it.

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sgt_richard 1 point ago +1 / -0

Do what you need to for your family.

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LtPatterson 1 point ago +1 / -0

That won't work for much longer. But maybe we'll see.

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Cesare_Borgia 8 points ago +8 / -0

I have a buddy who apprenticed as an electrician after leaving the military. You don't get paid much as an apprentice, but at least you do get something rather than paying for the education.

He makes around 100k a year now, more or less depending on how much he feels like working that year.

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MAGA_Argent_Crusade 1 point ago +1 / -0

Did they make him take the jab?

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Cesare_Borgia 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not as far as I know and I think one of his most recent jobs was in a hospital.

When you have needed skills I think you have some leverage. Granted we're in Texas too.

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WeAreGonnaWin 8 points ago +8 / -0

US Army secures other countries elections. But when the fraud happened at home soil. Dead silence.

Or maybe their job has long been to install foreign AND domestic political frauds.

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Brendancs0 4 points ago +4 / -0

founders called it. standing armies are a threat to liberty everywhere

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Spicy_Trash_Panda 7 points ago +7 / -0

Join the DD214 allumni. We're a good group.

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Pinochet_Was_Right 7 points ago +7 / -0

A religious exemption is most I can see.

I did my time and know that any refusal will probably tank your career. But unlike others here, I know that contract is a fucking albatross at times. If dead set on hitting your twenty then try talking with the chaplain. If anyone will know about the paperwork it would be them.

I don't know what your MOS and command environment is like but refusal to take the jab may not be a career-ender. It wouldn't be surprising if your BC or whoever would work with you or even support your decision. Either way, ask the chain of command and worse comes to worst, go to the chaplain or JAG.

Knees in the motherfuckin' breeze!

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SergeantPepe 6 points ago +6 / -0

I am not intent on 20. If I knew I could just take a general discharge and go, I absolutely would.

But I’m worried about dishonorable (gun rights) and/or prison.

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Pinochet_Was_Right 4 points ago +4 / -0

I don't see a dishonorable happening.

I know people who went AWOL, pissed hot, mental health, etc... They had generals later upgraded to honourable

You pair religious exemptions or whatever you choose and you should have no problem. I've been out a few years, but I know you are not the only service member thinking of refusing. Hell, I remember reading like 40% of the marine corps refused...

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SergeantPepe 4 points ago +4 / -0

I hear you. Not trying to be a contrarian - I just see this being so hyper political that they crush us.

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krzyzowiec 1 point ago +1 / -0

Could be but forcing the issue is a good thing. If it’s going to be tough then the sooner it gets started, the sooner we can end it.

Go for a religious exemption and then think about a religious discrimination suit if they want to push further.

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BingusCombat 2 points ago +2 / -0

Holy shit if they tried to say I couldn't own guns for not getting their poison, I would fucking lose my shit.

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I_trigger_faggots 2 points ago +2 / -0

Move to WV and start your own gun related business. If you can't own the firearm, own the company that makes/ refurbishes / imports / sells them.

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Diotima 1 point ago +1 / -0

Refuse the jab and most that'll happen is a admin discharge or other than honorable. You can upgrade the discharge when you get out.

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The_Green_Weenie 5 points ago +5 / -0

Refuse, take the Other Than Honorable discharge and fight it on the back end. This is coming from a Marine

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NazisWereSocialist 5 points ago +5 / -0

DO NOT COMPLY WE ARE COUNTING ON YOU

This is just a way to cleanse the military of patriots

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GabeC1997 5 points ago +5 / -0

Leave. Being willing to die for your country doesn't mean you should just let your country kill you.

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LowCountry 4 points ago +4 / -0

Your body your choice. I tend to believe they are purging the military of the men who won't attack us. Once all the good men quit, it will be a military ready to point and fire weapons at us.

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GrayManNumber333 4 points ago +4 / -0

Swap to guard and earn a living. Stop being a beholden retainer.

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buckeyeminuteman 1 point ago +1 / -0

Vaxx is coming for the guard as well. We’re pretty much just active duty’s little cousin.

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GrayManNumber333 1 point ago +1 / -0
  1. The state has first ownership and control so it will depend on your state.
  2. My main point is to not be a retainer. Live on your own away from the feds.
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Kmc2 4 points ago +4 / -0

https://news.gab.com/2021/07/29/important-download-covid-vaccine-religious-exemption-documents-here/

Torba posted that on Gab this morning for a mil dude looking for help

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Aurvandel 4 points ago +4 / -0

You need more than support and friends, you need a lawyer.

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SgtCup 4 points ago +4 / -0

The militias of America need pedes like you. I support you quitting especially with your financial position. The job market is hot. They are over paying for workers right now. Over 10 million jobs available. I would look into industrial raw materials jobs. They can’t keep up.

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ouvrez_les_yeux 4 points ago +4 / -0

Leave. Are there any companies with government contracts doing the work you do? If so, submit your resume asap.

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Gnometard 4 points ago +4 / -0

Every company is woke anymore. Good luck.

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woengrowerg 3 points ago +3 / -0

You got a problem bro and there isn't any escape. Your choice is the jab or prison. Sure as hell glad I'm already out. I'm not sure what I would do in your position but I'd like to think I would stand my ground and take that trip to prison.

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NonyaDB 3 points ago +3 / -0

Two words: "Religious Exemption"

Face it, you're on your way out anyway so might as well fill out the paperwork for the RE and go out in a blaze of glory.

They tried this same shit with the "tick-borne encephalitis vaccine" in Bosnia back in '96. FDA had not approved it at all for anything.
Tried to cajole us all into taking it, but we didn't and since we were all carrying M16s and M9s and shitloads of ammo they didn't try to mandate it.
Not only did almost no one get that vaccine there were zero recorded cases of "tick-borne encephalitis" across all of IFOR.
No one was punished for not getting it.

Legally DoD can't mandate it because the FDA has still not formally approved it - it's still classed as experimental.
And after the legal debacle with the anthrax "vaccine", they don't want to go down that road again.

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BlondeBombshell88 3 points ago +4 / -1

Get out before they jab you with poison and then ship you off to fight the Chinese in the inevitable war that’s coming

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Frosty468 3 points ago +3 / -0

Sucks but you'll probably have to take a dishonorable discharge... But in our eyes you'll still be the best of us.

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Spez_Isacuck 3 points ago +3 / -0

Nah it’d be a medical or general under honorable most likely.

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CaptainWinston 3 points ago +3 / -0

You need to toe the line and avoid the jab at all costs.

Do not take the clot shot.

If they force you to take it, make them arrest and discharge you. This is temporary, and skilled vets are in demand.

I am 10 year O3 hate what is happening in this country.

Fuck Biden.

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Hbosux 3 points ago +3 / -0

Use the GI Bill it covers housing, take a break, get a STEM Degree