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Ballind 3 points ago +3 / -0

Have that backwards. They're welfare. Nearly every single person who has received SS benefits is expected to make more than they paid into it, even accounting for an appropriate return. Unless you have two high incomes and both work over your entire adult life, most individuals/couples have taken more than they put in.

This is of course going to end for people working today because ponzi schemes inevitably fail.