Good article, but the argument against the Sheep Drench form doesn't make sense:
"Nope. The concentration is only 0.08% instead of 1.0% so it’s not feasible."
It's not difficult to adjust the dosage for a difference in concentration. A friend of mine took the Sheep Drench when he had Covid and he recovered quickly.
I stand corrected on the math, fren. I edited my comment. It’s still not a large quantity required for a dosage though, working out to about 15-20mL depending on body weight. Dosage for sheep is 3mL per 26 pounds.
As for the other ingredients, it’s mostly water, with small amounts of propylene glycol, benzyl alcohol, and polysorbate...all common food additives.
The only real downside I see is the cost compared to the horse paste, which is certainly less expensive for the amount of ivermectin in each tube.
They aren't designed for animal consumption, so they may contain ingredients that are toxic for humans to ingest. Some are labeled as flammable.
They also may contain other drugs in addition to ivermectin.
Whether or not they might work if put on human skin is an open question. If pour-on was all someone could find available, maybe it would be worth stockpiling.
Personally, I would avoid, unless on the edge of death and there was no other option.
.2 is for prophylaxes, the .4 is for early in the contracted illness, the .6 is when you are deep into the illness.
Should be given with zinc and Vitamin D3
Zinc 50mg, D3 125mcg daily twice for treatment.
Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, quercetin, quinine are all zinc ionophores raising the level of intracellular zinc and that is what blocks RNA virus replication.
Ivermectin works as a zinc delivery system for your cells. So make sure you have zinc in your system. Or buy some Zicam lozenges to go with the ivermectin. Having one without the other is like having just a box of ammo or an empty gun. They need to work together.
So a 175 lb person weighs 79.37866, we will call not 80kg for simple math.
.2mg X 80 = 16mg
So the 6.08 gram tube of horse paste for a 1250lb horse has a dose rate of 91 mcg/lb or 200mcg/kg. 1250 x 91 = 113,750 mcg ÷ 1000 to get mg = 113.75 mg. That means the tube has 7.109375 doses for a 175 person at .2mg/kg. One dose for said person would be 0.8552087912 of a gram. Let's call it .86 of a gram but this is just an example.
Now just take enough of whatever your tablet or paste is based on its concentration to achieve 16mg.
the .2 is for prophylaxes, the .4 is for early in the contracted illness, the .6 is when you are deep into the cups of the illness
Prophylactic dosage is 0.2 mg/kg or 0.091 mg/lb. For a 200 lb individual that's 18.2mg of Ivermectin. 1g of the 1.87& horse paste is 18.7 mg, so that's a good approximation for horse paste usage.
Whats the deal with Ivercare being rated so low? I started with Durvet, but then TSC was out of it, so I saw HorseHealth and Ivercare. Ivercare had Ivermectin and the 3 other proprietary ingredients, but HorseHealth had one other active ingredient that I didn't know of, so I figured that was 'less safe'.
lol, alright. I mean expense is not really unafforadable... its still cheap and if its effective... Durvet is cheaper, but I didn't pay $14.99 for it, yes it was more than Durvet, but Durvet was out of stock. It was like $11.99 for 1500lb horse. Appreciate the reply. Check into that HorseHealth brand and their other active ingredient, its another 'mectin' - I don't remember the specifics or I'd tell you. But I pulled up the SDS's on my phone while I was trying to decide.
For the 6.08 grams paste, to know how much dosage you're getting, you do this simple math.
6.08 grams is 6,080 mg, which is how much the tube weighs. The ivermectin is 1.87%. So you multiply 6,080 x .0187, and you get 113.7 mg of ivermectin in a tube.
These tubes are designed for a 1250 pound horse. The plunger has these bumps of 50 pound increments. So there are 25 of these bumps (25 x 50 = 1250).
So with each knob, you are getting 4.55 mg of ivermectin. 113.7 / 25 = 4.55 mg.
A 200lb horse going this route would probably adjust the plunger to 4 bumps. 4 x 4.55 = 18.2 mg. This is within the range of the FLCCC protocol if that horse was a human. But the human would get the prescription ivermectin in that dosage. Not the horse paste.
Suppose you weigh 175lbs, and want to know how to adjust the tube for your weight. Don't ask me. You're on your own. Get a prescription from your doctor instead.
If you don't mind me asking, what's your source of people making these recommendations? Reason I ask is, the guide says to take the paste everyday with a meal. That's a lot of ivermectin one is taking if doing it for prevention. I'm looking at the FLCCC protocol, and for prophylaxis, it says to take twice a week. For early treatment (if you've been infected), it says to take every day for 5 days or until recovered.
Is your guide for those taking as a prophylaxis, or for early treatment?
I take the injectable but you don’t inject. You take orally. Mix with small amount of juice or water. My Dr recommended it to take 1cc for 110lbs. I took for 5 days and then once a week.
I used American front line doctors before all this bullshit got crazy with ivermectin. I spoke to nobody. I paid the $90, waited the wait period with zero contact from them. For a second I thought I got scammed. Then one morning I wake up to my after care visit lol. The doctor legit prescribed me without even talking to me.
I got a call from Ravkoo pharmacy which is an online pharmacy, but they have partner locations in your city. They were wildly expensive, so I had the prescription transferred to Rite Aid, and they filled it no problem. But like I said, the next day the shit went wild.
According to the flccc the dosage for the horse paste is the same as the pills. Its weight based. Why are they saying 1.5x now? It's 1 to 1. It's the same.
Pharmacy list. flccc has as a disclaimer that they haven't exhaustively vetted these sources though, so I'm hoping that there are centaur-pedes working this who can help us whittle down to a shorter list of reliables.
I’m sad to see the 10lbs topical ivermectin boxes of powder for removing lice and ticks from cattle aren’t on that list. That’s about the only form of ivermectin I actually expect to cause ER visits. Someone going full Scarface with mountains of ivermectin powder and ODing
It has too much binder in it that would likely upset someone’s stomach and GI. Also dosage could be insanely variable since it’s external use only so the chance of a real OD is pretty much guaranteed. I would stay the hell away from topical ivermectin unless using it exactly as described. About the only scenario counter to this advice is the end of the world, shtf scenario where you absolutely need to kill your internal parasites. In that case, you probably need to do a polar/non-polar solvent extraction and hopefully the binder and ivermectin aren’t solvable in the same.
For those complaining about taste, just weigh out your recommend dose and place it in some empty gelcaps from the vitamin store. You can cap the whole tube at once and just keep them in a pill bottle.
I’ve personally had level 1 and level 2. Level 2 was taken while I was still thinking I could beat it without going to the doctor. Stopped my coughing within an hour and made me able to breathe again. Then I saw an np and got level 1. Both were a godsend.
I got the 12 pack of the yellow box "Duramectin" because of its great price discount. I got the product a few days ago but only took it about an hour ago. I took more than recommended by my own poor math skills. It wasn't bad tasting. I followed up eating the paste with eating a bunch of sliced pickled jalapenos.
I’ve bought 4 boxes of “IVERMAX” The box is light blue and black and is labeled almost identical to the Durvet box. Ivermectin paste 1.87%, no other ingredients, apple flavored. It’s made by first companion veterinary products. I bought two from Amazon about a month ago for $10 each, and I bought two on eBay for about $15 each.
I tried the apple flavored horsey paste and it hardly had any taste at all. It did leave an oily after taste in my mouth, but you can get rid of it easily by eating something. Not sick, just wanted to try it and I felt fine afterwards.
I have the Australian version of the Bimectin paste and it has a warning on the back about not slaughtering the horse for 21 days after dosing for human consumption. Just wondering if the Durvet version has similiar warnings. Not that I am planning on slaughtering anyone that has had the paste just seems like something I should look into.
Thanks to the original poster for this graph, very informative.
Oh yeah, it definitely does; they try to scare the shit outta you to keep you from using it for anything other than treating horses.
Go check out some image search results for the durvet paste packages and you'll see they say that plus you should wash your hands thoroughly after dosing your horse.
They even say that the paste was specially formulated for horses only... Kek
Maybe I'm not understanding this. But go to flccc.net and find the protocol. I don't know why you would change the paste dosage. It doesn't matter if a horse digests it different... it's the same mg amount, a direct 1 to 1 based on weight
Some guy helped me with the correct dosage because I suck at conversions. But he spent a whole page showing me the math and conversions and then telling me to double check. I was able to follow what he did. I'm not really trusting rando, when we've all been taking it 1 to 1. The docs said it's based on weight and I'm not understanding the explanation on changing it
Somewhere in my Covid folder is a link with an interesting sentence. I read it twice but I can't find it so I'll have to paraphrase it:
'The dosing is based on an empty stomach. If taken after a fatty meal the IVM is twice as effective.'
I have the Durvet syringe but my plunger doesn't thread. It has a sliding thingy that twists into notches for every 50lb. I'm 15lb over so I either go 35lb above my weight or take it on a fatty meal. Anybody else know about empty vs full stomach?
Fact check true. Duck duck go got several hits on this. From a straight, non-covid medical site:
Each ivermectin dose should be taken on an empty stomach with a full (8 oz) glass of water. A recent pharmacokinetics study reports that following a high-fat meal absorption was significantly higher (about 2.5 times) than in the fasted state.
Don’t be retarded and take horse medicine. Just don’t.
Get the real stuff meant for humans. If your doctor won’t prescribe it for you, find a new doctor.
My understanding is that the injectable ivermectin is safe for all mammals to consume, at the correct dose.
Was going to share this link too.
Good article, but the argument against the Sheep Drench form doesn't make sense:
"Nope. The concentration is only 0.08% instead of 1.0% so it’s not feasible."
It's not difficult to adjust the dosage for a difference in concentration. A friend of mine took the Sheep Drench when he had Covid and he recovered quickly.
I stand corrected on the math, fren. I edited my comment. It’s still not a large quantity required for a dosage though, working out to about 15-20mL depending on body weight. Dosage for sheep is 3mL per 26 pounds.
As for the other ingredients, it’s mostly water, with small amounts of propylene glycol, benzyl alcohol, and polysorbate...all common food additives.
The only real downside I see is the cost compared to the horse paste, which is certainly less expensive for the amount of ivermectin in each tube.
Well I'm not a doctor or veterinarian either and won't advise anyone to do something illegal.
However, any injectable veterinary drug that's safe to administer to livestock, and also approved for humans - is almost certainly safe.
People should definitely avoid the pour-on formulations, of course.
Why should you avoid the pour on formulations? Thank you
They aren't designed for animal consumption, so they may contain ingredients that are toxic for humans to ingest. Some are labeled as flammable.
They also may contain other drugs in addition to ivermectin.
Whether or not they might work if put on human skin is an open question. If pour-on was all someone could find available, maybe it would be worth stockpiling.
Personally, I would avoid, unless on the edge of death and there was no other option.
The initial dose recommendation was 0.2 mg/kg, but some are suggesting 0.4 to 0.6 mg/kg
https://c19protocols.com
.2 is for prophylaxes, the .4 is for early in the contracted illness, the .6 is when you are deep into the illness.
Should be given with zinc and Vitamin D3 Zinc 50mg, D3 125mcg daily twice for treatment.
Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, quercetin, quinine are all zinc ionophores raising the level of intracellular zinc and that is what blocks RNA virus replication.
Ivermectin works as a zinc delivery system for your cells. So make sure you have zinc in your system. Or buy some Zicam lozenges to go with the ivermectin. Having one without the other is like having just a box of ammo or an empty gun. They need to work together.
The reccomended dose of Ivermectin is 0.2 mg/kg.
1 lbs is equal to 0.45359237 kilogram
Or
1 kg is equal to 2.204623 pounds
Do the conversion whichever way you want.
So a 175 lb person weighs 79.37866, we will call not 80kg for simple math.
.2mg X 80 = 16mg
So the 6.08 gram tube of horse paste for a 1250lb horse has a dose rate of 91 mcg/lb or 200mcg/kg. 1250 x 91 = 113,750 mcg ÷ 1000 to get mg = 113.75 mg. That means the tube has 7.109375 doses for a 175 person at .2mg/kg. One dose for said person would be 0.8552087912 of a gram. Let's call it .86 of a gram but this is just an example.
Now just take enough of whatever your tablet or paste is based on its concentration to achieve 16mg.
the .2 is for prophylaxes, the .4 is for early in the contracted illness, the .6 is when you are deep into the cups of the illness
So...
0.2 = 16mg
0.4 = 32mg
0.6 = 48mg
Thanks Alex 😀. Seriously though, anyone advocating against these drugs should be strung up
Your dosing information is misleading.
Prophylactic dosage is 0.2 mg/kg or 0.091 mg/lb. For a 200 lb individual that's 18.2mg of Ivermectin. 1g of the 1.87& horse paste is 18.7 mg, so that's a good approximation for horse paste usage.
Oh [email protected] The others taste Worse than the recommended?
Yeah I have some. :) super nasty taste. Covid probably commits suicide when forced to be around it.
Whats the deal with Ivercare being rated so low? I started with Durvet, but then TSC was out of it, so I saw HorseHealth and Ivercare. Ivercare had Ivermectin and the 3 other proprietary ingredients, but HorseHealth had one other active ingredient that I didn't know of, so I figured that was 'less safe'.
lol, alright. I mean expense is not really unafforadable... its still cheap and if its effective... Durvet is cheaper, but I didn't pay $14.99 for it, yes it was more than Durvet, but Durvet was out of stock. It was like $11.99 for 1500lb horse. Appreciate the reply. Check into that HorseHealth brand and their other active ingredient, its another 'mectin' - I don't remember the specifics or I'd tell you. But I pulled up the SDS's on my phone while I was trying to decide.
Agri-Mectin
Horse Health
Eqvalan
Bimectin
Duramectin
Zimecterin
First Companion Iverchoice
Farnham IverCare
Vetrimec
Noromectin
Ivercare contains a bigger dose- treats bigger horses. So that probably affects the cost. Be careful dosing your centaurpede if used to other brands.
And yes the injection device is somewhat silly...
Ivercare is also a bigger dose- treats bigger horses. So that probably affects the cost. Be careful dosing your centaurpede if used to other brands.
Same 1.87% though. So same amount per dose.
This will be a full page fixture in history books of the future…u are doing the Lord’s work fren
For the 6.08 grams paste, to know how much dosage you're getting, you do this simple math.
6.08 grams is 6,080 mg, which is how much the tube weighs. The ivermectin is 1.87%. So you multiply 6,080 x .0187, and you get 113.7 mg of ivermectin in a tube.
These tubes are designed for a 1250 pound horse. The plunger has these bumps of 50 pound increments. So there are 25 of these bumps (25 x 50 = 1250).
So with each knob, you are getting 4.55 mg of ivermectin. 113.7 / 25 = 4.55 mg.
A 200lb horse going this route would probably adjust the plunger to 4 bumps. 4 x 4.55 = 18.2 mg. This is within the range of the FLCCC protocol if that horse was a human. But the human would get the prescription ivermectin in that dosage. Not the horse paste.
Suppose you weigh 175lbs, and want to know how to adjust the tube for your weight. Don't ask me. You're on your own. Get a prescription from your doctor instead.
If you don't mind me asking, what's your source of people making these recommendations? Reason I ask is, the guide says to take the paste everyday with a meal. That's a lot of ivermectin one is taking if doing it for prevention. I'm looking at the FLCCC protocol, and for prophylaxis, it says to take twice a week. For early treatment (if you've been infected), it says to take every day for 5 days or until recovered.
Is your guide for those taking as a prophylaxis, or for early treatment?
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf
I take the injectable but you don’t inject. You take orally. Mix with small amount of juice or water. My Dr recommended it to take 1cc for 110lbs. I took for 5 days and then once a week.
Thank you
I've been doing this since March.
That is incorrect. Human prophylactic dosage is also 0.2 mg/kg. u/blastarr has it correct.
Anybody find a good source of the tablets yet?
I used American front line doctors before all this bullshit got crazy with ivermectin. I spoke to nobody. I paid the $90, waited the wait period with zero contact from them. For a second I thought I got scammed. Then one morning I wake up to my after care visit lol. The doctor legit prescribed me without even talking to me. I got a call from Ravkoo pharmacy which is an online pharmacy, but they have partner locations in your city. They were wildly expensive, so I had the prescription transferred to Rite Aid, and they filled it no problem. But like I said, the next day the shit went wild.
FLCCC has a listing here that may be a good start.
According to the flccc the dosage for the horse paste is the same as the pills. Its weight based. Why are they saying 1.5x now? It's 1 to 1. It's the same.
Beyond prescription though? I have other problems I'm curious to see if it could help.
Pharmacy list. flccc has as a disclaimer that they haven't exhaustively vetted these sources though, so I'm hoping that there are centaur-pedes working this who can help us whittle down to a shorter list of reliables.
“Removes worms and bots”🤣🤣🤣
Give some to Jack Dorsey then.
Is this for real? What's wrong with the injectable? I find this thing highly suspect.
Dosing should be 1cc per 110 pounds. 1cc is often just 1ml. That is equivalent to a 9mg tablet.
propylene glycol should be the only other chemical in the solution.
I’m sad to see the 10lbs topical ivermectin boxes of powder for removing lice and ticks from cattle aren’t on that list. That’s about the only form of ivermectin I actually expect to cause ER visits. Someone going full Scarface with mountains of ivermectin powder and ODing
Visions of a dude wolfing down a handful of powder and saying, "Say hello to my little friends".
It has too much binder in it that would likely upset someone’s stomach and GI. Also dosage could be insanely variable since it’s external use only so the chance of a real OD is pretty much guaranteed. I would stay the hell away from topical ivermectin unless using it exactly as described. About the only scenario counter to this advice is the end of the world, shtf scenario where you absolutely need to kill your internal parasites. In that case, you probably need to do a polar/non-polar solvent extraction and hopefully the binder and ivermectin aren’t solvable in the same.
For those complaining about taste, just weigh out your recommend dose and place it in some empty gelcaps from the vitamin store. You can cap the whole tube at once and just keep them in a pill bottle.
I’ve personally had level 1 and level 2. Level 2 was taken while I was still thinking I could beat it without going to the doctor. Stopped my coughing within an hour and made me able to breathe again. Then I saw an np and got level 1. Both were a godsend.
I've heard customs is seizing anything coming in from India now.
This is excellent! Thank you!
Agri-Mectin
Horse Health
Eqvalan
Bimectin
Duramectin
Zimecterin
First Companion Iverchoice
Farnham IverCare
Vetrimec
Noromectin
Excellent post, pede!
I got the 12 pack of the yellow box "Duramectin" because of its great price discount. I got the product a few days ago but only took it about an hour ago. I took more than recommended by my own poor math skills. It wasn't bad tasting. I followed up eating the paste with eating a bunch of sliced pickled jalapenos.
So far so good!
Why take it each day? Just take it when you get sick.
Would someone use this for the Common Cold?
Thanks, was thinking the same in terms of virus. Please keep us updated if you hear any talk about it being used for bad cases of the common cold.
I have bimectin, is the bad?
Ok it’s the only one I can get around Canada
I’ve bought 4 boxes of “IVERMAX” The box is light blue and black and is labeled almost identical to the Durvet box. Ivermectin paste 1.87%, no other ingredients, apple flavored. It’s made by first companion veterinary products. I bought two from Amazon about a month ago for $10 each, and I bought two on eBay for about $15 each.
Have you used it yet?
No not yet, I’m saving it until me or family get symptoms.
I tried the apple flavored horsey paste and it hardly had any taste at all. It did leave an oily after taste in my mouth, but you can get rid of it easily by eating something. Not sick, just wanted to try it and I felt fine afterwards.
Durvet definitely tastes better than Equimax.
Where is this info coming from? Sources?
Some of mine: Agri-Mectin
Horse Health
Eqvalan
Bimectin
Duramectin
Zimecterin
First Companion Iverchoice
Farnham IverCare
Vetrimec
Noromectin
I have the Australian version of the Bimectin paste and it has a warning on the back about not slaughtering the horse for 21 days after dosing for human consumption. Just wondering if the Durvet version has similiar warnings. Not that I am planning on slaughtering anyone that has had the paste just seems like something I should look into.
Thanks to the original poster for this graph, very informative.
Oh yeah, it definitely does; they try to scare the shit outta you to keep you from using it for anything other than treating horses.
Go check out some image search results for the durvet paste packages and you'll see they say that plus you should wash your hands thoroughly after dosing your horse.
They even say that the paste was specially formulated for horses only... Kek
You're supposed to ingest the paste daily? I haven't seen that yet...
Maybe I'm not understanding this. But go to flccc.net and find the protocol. I don't know why you would change the paste dosage. It doesn't matter if a horse digests it different... it's the same mg amount, a direct 1 to 1 based on weight
I'm with you...I don't think some pictograph from some guy on the Internet should be dosing this shit..
Some guy helped me with the correct dosage because I suck at conversions. But he spent a whole page showing me the math and conversions and then telling me to double check. I was able to follow what he did. I'm not really trusting rando, when we've all been taking it 1 to 1. The docs said it's based on weight and I'm not understanding the explanation on changing it
Somewhere in my Covid folder is a link with an interesting sentence. I read it twice but I can't find it so I'll have to paraphrase it:
'The dosing is based on an empty stomach. If taken after a fatty meal the IVM is twice as effective.'
I have the Durvet syringe but my plunger doesn't thread. It has a sliding thingy that twists into notches for every 50lb. I'm 15lb over so I either go 35lb above my weight or take it on a fatty meal. Anybody else know about empty vs full stomach?
Fact check true. Duck duck go got several hits on this. From a straight, non-covid medical site:
Heartguard for dogs too??!! I had no idea! You can buy that stuff anywhere! Although you probably have to chew 10 tablets to make it worthwhile.
Thanks for the info, Pede!!
Only use the fucking human pills.
Don’t be retarded and take horse medicine. Just don’t. Get the real stuff meant for humans. If your doctor won’t prescribe it for you, find a new doctor.
Stay safe frens.
what's my dosage eating horse poop if i can't get any paste?
How did we start talking about Hilary Clinton in this thread?
Cure Covid? It's for Tuesday night curry.
Not if you eat a huge pile of it; say 100 pounds or so in one sitting.