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Kekintosh2020 510 points ago +513 / -3

It's a feint to trigger a false start on behalf of employers

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RahkeemTheMachine 261 points ago +261 / -0

That’s the best it could have been. No chance it would survive the courts

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DonJr2032 117 points ago +140 / -23

This headline is false and misleading. Here is the last line of the article:

  • I would not be surprised to see nothing more ever said about this “National Employment Vaccine Mandate.”

The headline is 100% total speculation. The EO on federal employees, contractors, and 100+ employee private businesses is still there and still being worked on.

Edit: There is no EO on 100+ employee companies. That's actually part of this announcement, but is only listed on the WH covid plan site.

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mateus 100 points ago +104 / -4

If by "headline" you mean "thread title," there was nothing misleading.


If you know anything about OSHA, we most certainly may not be hearing anything else about this private mandate. It is not now, not has it ever been, within OSHA's purview to require vaccinations of employees .


This is more of Biden's bluster 🗣️. As with extending the rent moratorium, he knows this mandate will not ultimately pass muster, but hopes it will "nudge" employers (and employees) in the interim.


That's how Biden rolls, and it sure sounds like [another] scam to me.

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dannypipes75 111 points ago +111 / -0

This was announced this way in the hope that a big chunk of people would rush to get the jab.

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mateus 58 points ago +58 / -0

Exactly.

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SquiggyMcPepe 17 points ago +17 / -0

Not to mention as a way to try to knock public opinion off the horrific disaster that was Afghanistan. Didn't work and people are more pissed about it now than then due to all the fresh outrages being uncovered almost daily about the pullout and how there are THOUSANDS of Americans still trapped there.

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mateus 4 points ago +4 / -0

Definitely, it was that, too.

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erefernow 55 points ago +55 / -0

It worked on many.

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KickingPugilist 61 points ago +61 / -0

The people that lack conviction but were eager to tell you they won't get vaxxed flinched and caved at the first sign of inconvenience.

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ApparentlyAssumption 40 points ago +40 / -0

i just started working on my exit strategy from this shit hole state known as california.

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AmericanMan00 15 points ago +15 / -0

"Were losing Patience"

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jomten 10 points ago +10 / -0

Psychological warfare

Every time they put the mask on they lost a piece of their willpower, weakening their resolve.

You put the mask on once right? Well whats one more time? Before you know it you’re making your kids wear a muzzle to school, pulling your shirt over your face and begging forgiveness from the grocery store clerk for forgetting a muzzle, and youve injected your whole family with poison.

Criminals understand this implicitly. Prisoners try to get guards to do them very small, seemingly inconsequential favors. Or “ask” another prisoner for his food/phone card.

Giving the bully your lunch money never works. You have to fight.

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bbxx 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yeah, for those of us with conviction it made us think of what we plan to do to avoid it when the time comes.

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randylaheydidit 3 points ago +3 / -0

My "based" coworker

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Dlrnemesis 19 points ago +19 / -0

It worked on many Liberal companies too. Wife has a good job, over 100k. They said it’s coming down the pipe. Fucking fools

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Manofmanytrades 3 points ago +3 / -0

Trying to inch those percentages up to reach their target number.

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Chopblock 32 points ago +32 / -0

Leftists always operate within the bubble of pure speculation, before anything can be measured, reasoned out, or ruled upon. It allows them to set ground conditions according to whatever authority they can seize, without having to take responsibility for outcomes or even their own actions.

For example, how will you sue a company for announcing rules intended to bring itself into compliance with a mandate that they have reason to expect will be legal? Especially if you chose to take an experimental medicine or chose to quit — just like the “fake” FDA approval switcharoo, everything is designed to shift the burden of risk onto you.

The biggest mistake you can make is assuming that either your company or the government bureaucrats are acting in good faith or being straightforward.

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MAGAguitar 17 points ago +17 / -0

If an employee takes a shot for their employer - their employer will be nowhere to be found should the employee fall ill.

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jomten 6 points ago +6 / -0

^We have a winner

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SanFranShitty 6 points ago +6 / -0

Exactly

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freebass 4 points ago +4 / -0

Can you please explain the fake FDA approval switcheroo? I've been hearing about this, but can't find out exactly what folks are referencing.

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Chopblock 3 points ago +3 / -0

Ok, here goes:

The issue is liability. The Emergency Use Authorization for Pfizer’s experimental Vaxx indemnifies them, which means they have no risk of getting sued if their shot kills you.

An FDA-approved shot doesn’t have that legal protection, and so they’re at risk... until such time as it it gets designated as a “standard childhood vaccine”, when it will fall under a different law where the government assumes any liability (now it makes more sense why they’re rushing to jab kids, right?)

The other factors are a) trying to get everyone jabbed ASAP, and b) the huge stock they have on hand that’s already purchased.

So what the FDA did was to issue two letters on the same day — one extending the Emergency Use Authorization for the current Pfizer experimental Vaxx to include younger kids; the other approving a drug that hasn’t been produced, but will be an identical formulation to the current Vaxx (but branded COMIRNATY®).

Then they announced it as though it was one letter, confusing people into thinking that the product they were injecting is “approved”, when it’s actually not — you can’t be required by an employer to take it, you can’t sue anyone for damages, your insurance probably doesn’t cover expenses from harm it might cause — oh, you thought it was approved? No, it’s just the same thing as what was approved. See?

If that’s confusing, here’s an analogy:

Imagine you make handcrafted handbags of fine leather. You sell these to a business college that gives them “free” to new enrollees.

Then one day Gucci wants to license your bags! Now they will have a Gucci authentic certificate, free leather and zipper repair at Gucci Stores, and that oh-so-important logo!

They’re the “exact same bags”.

The business college will push out a bunch of stuff implying, but not outright stating, that enrollees are getting a bag “sold in Gucci stores where quality is guaranteed” or some-such.

Many of the students will call it their “Gucci bag”.

But until you make the new bags, none of the existing bags are Gucci Bags, and they don’t qualify for free repairs.

Then you find out Gucci is discontinuing free repairs for all bags that are sourced from vendors, and starting a new “outlets stores” label that the new bags will be sold under. The college plans to continue purchasing the Gucci Outlets Stores bags once they are manufactured — or possibly just require them for all new students.

Now, just replace ‘handcrafted handbags of fine leather’ with ‘lab-cooked vials of deadly spike protein growing genetic experiments’.

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MAKE 23 points ago +23 / -0

This guy gets it. Intimidation is actually pretty illegal under my current employer. There will probably be aggrievances and lawsuits up the wazoo

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WU_HAN_FRU 13 points ago +13 / -0

That’s it. You’ve got it right.

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GetVaxxedAndDie 28 points ago +28 / -0

Has OSHA ever enforced a vaccine mandate before?

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Based-Engineer 50 points ago +50 / -0

No, and that will be very helpful if this does ever go to court. It's likely to be struck down on the same grounds that the CDC's eviction moratorium was, and that is that there is no precedent demonstrating this body has such authority.

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GetVaxxedAndDie 42 points ago +42 / -0

I hope this article is right because I have been shitting my pants over the idea of this becoming a real thing, so clearly the propaganda works

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NotInFormation 37 points ago +37 / -0

Some employers were so eager that they imposed the mandates in advance of even the speech and went full-Fauci by discarding a test option.

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Based-Engineer 34 points ago +34 / -0

Same. Hard to focus on work when you're not sure you'll even have a job by the end of the year.

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LowKeyPede 16 points ago +16 / -0

Most global employers are eager to implement, they just don't want to look like the bad guy.

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DebbieinDallas 6 points ago +6 / -0

You are not the only one!

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Jaqen 4 points ago +4 / -0

Username checks out.

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RahkeemTheRedMachine 16 points ago +16 / -0

OSHA would be forced to present convincing evidence of "grave danger" in the workplace in a courtroom if the mandate was not enacted. Good luck.

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TheThreeSeashells 11 points ago +12 / -1

The other massive hole they ran into was their moronic random number of 100 employees. For example, a Walgreens is a national chain with thousands of employees spread out around hundreds of locations. However each Walgreens location has maybe 25-30 employees working there. Therefore, they shouldn't qualify because technically THAT lone business location clearly doesn't reach their random 100+ number that supposedly creates the "dangerous" environment.

Of course, we all know that none of this is about facts or logic, so...

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strawman7 9 points ago +9 / -0

CNN opinion pieces are evidence, right? /s

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mateus 21 points ago +21 / -0

No, they haven't. And OSHA putting everything under a "health and safety of workers" umbrella is more than a stretch.

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ShitOfPeace 14 points ago +14 / -0

No. Communicable disease isn't an occupational hazard.

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GetVaxxedAndDie 9 points ago +9 / -0

if that were the case then all vaccines ever made would be mandated.

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Brokenmatrix2021 7 points ago +7 / -0

It's not a vaccine against anything. Except living maybe.

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GrayManNumber333 7 points ago +7 / -0

They had it as policy that it was osha recordable event if there was an adverse reaction to a mandated vaccine.

So really they where against mandatory vaccines. If they have the power to give you all you want, they can take all that you have.

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Just_An_Idahoan 2 points ago +2 / -0

Username checks out 👍

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OwnaLib87 16 points ago +16 / -0

It’s not now or was it ever in the CDCs purview to keep landlords from collecting rent, and yet they did so for almost a year.

The problem is we’re in uncharted territory, and the law as it is written and understood is being ignored everywhere.

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mateus 12 points ago +12 / -0

And Biden knew the CDC had no such authority, and would get smacked down by SCOTUS. He said it would buy people time. That's exactly what happened, giving some states time to pass their own legislation essentially handing over private property to deadbeat tenants extending the moratorium.

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EyeofNewt 5 points ago +5 / -0

It's scary that governments can basically disregard their own laws under the assumption that if the aggrieved want to take it to court, it will take so long and cost so much that the majority of people will comply and not sue.

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nophoney 3 points ago +3 / -0

Then we need to put pressure on the ones not enforcing the Law, not the Law breakers.

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easyonthefiber 11 points ago +11 / -0

But is his federal employee and contractor EO enforceable either? What about medical privacy and natural immunity, both of which are ignored in the current text of the EO.

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KickingPugilist 13 points ago +13 / -0

They are really trying to downplay natural immunity.

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AvalancheUnited2020 6 points ago +6 / -0

Because they know the PCR tests are bullshit so there are a lot of people out there who were told they had COVID who didn’t. That’s why they are acting like they aren’t sure how to measure natural immunity because for people who had it it’s good and people who were lied to they won’t have antibodies at all

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mateus 6 points ago +6 / -0

Unfortunately, yes, Biden has the authority to require the mandate of federal workers. And contractors, as long as they, well...contract with the feds.


Even there, though, he's finding opposition in unions, for example, where some have said they will not agree to mandates. Notice the exception for USPS workers which, yes, are federal workers under the Executive Branch.


Be aware, also, that the federal mandate was by Executive Order--OSHA had nothing to do with it, though it appears he wants (or wanted lol) them to enforce it.

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fazaman 5 points ago +5 / -0

Unions don't give a shit, except as leverage for negotiations. As soon as the fed gives them something, they'll turn around and happily mandate the shot.

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FuckFaceDiapers 5 points ago +5 / -0

All of my stewards are cucks.. Would never fight for unvaxxed workers. Bunch of liberal pussies.

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BillsmafiaGG 2 points ago +2 / -0

My thought is that medical privacy that applies to immigrant workers (purportedly to protect them from ICE) would need to be broken, creating grounds for immigrant rights lawsuits, or else observed, creating grounds for workplace discrimination suits per USC 8 due to unequal treatment based on immigration or citizenship status.

Not enforceable in any workplace. If attempted, there are multiple agencies to which you can file a valid complaint against your employer with non-retaliation provisions.

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Gnometard 8 points ago +8 / -0

Up until this one, mandatory vaccines causing any issues was OSHA reportable.

OSHA said they're not enforcing that anymore.

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Ghostof_PatrickHenry 40 points ago +40 / -0

The meat and potatoes is the fact that neither the Department of Labor nor OSHA have provided any guidance, mandate, or even press release stating they are working on something, since Biden called on them to do so A WEEK AGO. (You would think Biden would have already had them working on this, prior to his speech.)

As President, Biden doesn't possess the Constitutional authority to mandate something like this, which is why he bounce-passed the ball to DoL and OSHA, to 'finish the play.' Problem is, nobody has caught the proverbial pass, and the speculation is it is because they likely know that they also do not possess the legal authority to do something like this.

Anybody who has ever dealt with the government in a professional setting understands that bureaucrats first and last concern is CYA. They aren't going to do anything until they are absolutely certain they won't get in trouble for doing it.

On the other hand, when the POTUS calls on you to do something, literally on the national stage, you drop everything you're doing as an agency and prioritize his request. So why haven't they done that?

Probably because they have crunched the numbers, and know they can't. Issuing a mandate when they have no legal authority to do will result in BILLIONS of dollars worth of lawsuits brought against them, as an agency. And while the agency may survive the storm, the individual bureaucrats at the helm will not.

TLDR; The silence from the Department of Labor and OSHA-- who Biden explicitly stated is responsible for implementing this mandate-- one week after this proclamation, is very telling. Likely they know they don't have the authority to issue such a mandate, and will not do so. Once the first lawsuit reaches a courtroom, all of these dots will be connected and the public will understand that this was one giant game of grab-ass by Biden.

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IncredibleMrE1 18 points ago +18 / -0

This. All of this.

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Kamalas_a_Bitch 11 points ago +11 / -0

Biden is such a fag

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Kimball_Kinnison 9 points ago +9 / -0

I also wonder if this isn’t part of the DNC’s intentional provocation of conservatives. They are desperately hoping that some nuts start shooting or bombing so they can blame it on wHiTe SuPrEmAcIsT tRuMpErS and start confiscating guns and maybe starting up some re-education camps.

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el-y0y0s 16 points ago +16 / -0

You're not seeing the scam.

I called it 3 days ago. I should be a "professional" blogger too.

https://patriots.win/p/12kFwUZEe8/x/c/4JEWd6kWwA4

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strawman7 11 points ago +11 / -0

And you could be right. But OSHA did change the rules, I believe it was in June 2021, to no longer require vaccine injuries to be reported by employers. Seems like preparation if there ever was some.

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WhyWhyWhyWhyWhy 4 points ago +4 / -0

They appear to have changed the rules May 21, 2021.

https://patriots.win/p/12kFwaDq0H/osha-quietly-changed-the-reporti/c/

(I sifted through the wayback machine).

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doug2 1 point ago +1 / -0

You forwarded a tweet...

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BillsmafiaGG 1 point ago +1 / -0

Good call;)

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DonJr2032 9 points ago +9 / -0

Ok so it's not in the EO. It's from the announcement of all three of these things. The first 2 are in the EO, the 3rd (100+ employee mandate) was part of the announcement, but is listed on the WH covid plan site. The screenshot and link are in the article.

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Marshall2 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'm sure it will take some time to see if they can eliminate the 100 employee threshold.

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DonJr2032 17 points ago +17 / -0

Why not 90?
Why not 50?
Why not 25?

...

Why should safety have any limits???

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leakmouth 14 points ago +14 / -0

Covid only strikes businesses with more than 100 employees #science

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ActionExpress 7 points ago +7 / -0

Front door of the restaurant to your table, oh you better believe covid knows how to infect you. But once you sit down, covid is a little stupid and forgets to infect you, so mask off is ok.

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preferredfault 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not to mention they don't sanitize every surface between diners. Doubt they're out there sanitizing chairs arms and seats, they don't even sanitize the card readers.

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Space_Force 6 points ago +6 / -0

Same reason you can't catch the Coof if you sit in a restaurant, but can if you stand up. It's science!

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strawman7 6 points ago +6 / -0

It's probably an educated guess by somebody as to how much overreach they can get away with to start

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Snoman 2 points ago +2 / -0

In due time..

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doug2 2 points ago +2 / -0

Good god you're on to something

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tholins 3 points ago +3 / -0

Well that is an article from an opinion blog and literally just one dude’s thoughts. But Sundance has a pretty good record when it comes to stuff like this. He hits a lot more than he misses.

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GrayManNumber333 12 points ago +12 / -0

Lol. It will probably survive the judicial courts. Tyranny always does.

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RahkeemTheMachine 3 points ago +3 / -0

How’s that CDC eviction bullshit going? Biden admin is just punting Hail Mary nonsense and when the courts shoot it down they have someone else to blame

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GetVaxxedAndDie 6 points ago +7 / -1

Lawyers would request Injunctions until it's been fully litigated

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RahkeemTheMachine 4 points ago +4 / -0

How’d the CDC eviction bullshit go again?

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hansgruber7 1 point ago +1 / -0

I wish I had the faith in the courts that you do.

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bidensmissingbrain 54 points ago +54 / -0

Would make sense. They had to know there's no way something like this would fly in court but by just going out and saying it, getting everything in the media (both social and news) talking about it, people will just assume it's actually a thing.

These people lie professionally every day. Wouldn't be a stretch to think they're lying.

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Joe_Snow 32 points ago +32 / -0

Just like the Comirnaty FDA "approval"

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Inquisitor_Corvus 7 points ago +7 / -0

Just questioning the Cominarty thing. They are saying that the experimental vax and it are the same thing on the website. Can anyone else offer insight? Thank you!

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europoor99 23 points ago +23 / -0

The pfizer vax (EUA) and cominarty are both the same thing alright, but it's the cominarty label that has the FDA approval.

If you go to get vaxxed the cominarty is not available anywhere, only the EUA version, so it's like a bait and switch.

The vaxx is approved (cominarty), but we don't have it, take this instead (EUA). If you take it then Pfizer is not liable, but they can still claim it's approved, they are identical.

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NotInFormation 10 points ago +10 / -0

Well, maybe. They have the 'same formulation' which means active ingredients, dosage, and administration.

All those cute 'inactive ingredients' might change though...

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IntergalacticWalrus 9 points ago +10 / -1

per FDA: They are the exact same except “COMIRNATY and BNT162b2 (V8) have identical amino acid sequences of the encoded antigens but COMIRNATY includes the presence of optimized codons to improve antigen expression.” But they are the exact same and you’re a conspiracy theorist for pointing that out. All vaccines are equal but some are more equal than others.

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doug2 1 point ago +1 / -0

Apparently it's just a brand name. Idk why they can't just rename what they have now? Something about seems off

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GetVaxxedAndDie 6 points ago +6 / -0

I understand the distinction, I am just unsure of why the FDA approved one and not the other if they are chemically the same thing?

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Inquisitor_Corvus 4 points ago +4 / -0

That’s the source of my confusion. Still not taking the thing. I just want to be arguing based on the facts. I appreciate the replies!

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europoor99 1 point ago +1 / -0

They approved (cominarty) it so they could say they approved the "vax", it was in the fine print that is was the cominarty version, not the one they are giving everyone.

Don't you remember the MSM trumpeting out that the vax was FDA approved, well it still isn't.

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nickybops 2 points ago +2 / -0

If it doesnt have the label on it, it's not that drug . Is how I think Robert Barnes explained it. Still tryna grasp what I heard, maybe I heard it wrong. if anyone smarter than me could chime in thatd be cool.

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doug2 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's bullshit though generics have different names and it's the same shit

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MAKE 1 point ago +1 / -0

Is this even available to anyone?

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Joe_Snow 19 points ago +19 / -0

Same formula. They're legally distinct though. They approved one you cant get in the US. Everyone thinks they're approved so they rush out and start mandating it.

By the time everyone realizes a crime against humanity has occurred, theyve all stroked out or had their hearts exploded..

Then they'll say "well, you shouldn't have volunteered for an experimental gene therapy experiment"

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BidensButtWiper 12 points ago +12 / -0

I am glad to see people here are finally getting it ^TM

I argued last week with someone who claimed "same formula" meant they were different, chemically.

No, they're the same chemically, it's the legal difference (as in liability) that's important here.

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Joe_Snow 7 points ago +7 / -0

I really dont understand how anyone struggled with this. The shell game was painfully obvious

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FUSnowflake 2 points ago +2 / -0

If they have different codons (a codon is a three-nucleotide sequence in the mRNA coding -- hence the name -- for a specific amino acid in the protein being built) then they are chemically distinct.

The resultant spike protein may be the same (barring transcription errors) but the two jabs are subtly different at the molecular level.

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IntergalacticWalrus 1 point ago +3 / -2

per FDA: They are the exact same except “COMIRNATY and BNT162b2 (V8) have identical amino acid sequences of the encoded antigens but COMIRNATY includes the presence of optimized codons to improve antigen expression.”

But they are the exact same and you’re a conspiracy theorist for pointing that out. All vaccines are equal but some are more equal than others.

https://www.genome.gov/genetics-glossary/Codon

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doug2 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's the same drug apparently tho

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Joe_Snow 1 point ago +1 / -0

correct, and the form you can get it in is not FDA approved.

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thegoodlife 1 point ago +1 / -0

Source: Wife is a based phd and works as a genomic scientist.

They are the same 'formula' as in they were formulated in the same way using the same processes and chemicals. But if you drill down into the papers, cominarty codes a slightly different genetic sequence (optimized). I don't understand it myself but trust wifey as she reads all the source papers and is pretty smart.

So chemically they are the same but the MRNA sequence is slightly different.

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Joe_Snow 1 point ago +1 / -0

Doesn't much matter if you cant get comirnaty in the US anyway

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Acuate187 9 points ago +9 / -0

Legally they are different and the new named FDA "approved" one isnt even available at all. So no there are no approved vaccines currently available.

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doug2 2 points ago +2 / -0

Now that is the only logical explanation I've heard. It fits their pattern of behavior too with the suppression of real treatments

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ColonelKlink 2 points ago +2 / -0

Exactly.

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davidmode 19 points ago +19 / -0

Exactly. Why even try to go about it legally, when they have a bunch of leftists eager to implement it themselves anyways

Step 1: govt "makes" rule, even if unconstitutional

Step 2: wait for lefties to enforce it

Step 3: govt backpedals from step 1

Step 1 completed

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NotInFormation 10 points ago +10 / -0

Yep, lots of hospitals and companies jumping on that one. Private industry controlled by centralized government is called what again?

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davidmode 1 point ago +1 / -0

wait wait wait! i know the answer to this one! :D

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FreeFlorida 11 points ago +11 / -0

they are so bad at doing false flags now they are trying to invoke one out of us but Tegridy Farms remembers

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KickingPugilist 10 points ago +10 / -0

Yeah but at the same time any time there is an event like a protest, everyone thinks everything is a false flag and don't show up. They gaslit us into constant suspicion.

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MAGALOVER 2 points ago +2 / -0

Towlie tested.... Randy Marsh approved.

Tegridy

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Kekintosh2020 5 points ago +5 / -0

The same troops they made treat Shi'ites like royalty

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joebama-smells 1 point ago +4 / -3

So much this. They need us to do random acts of violence so we can be scapegoated for the crackdowns. They'll eventually do it anyways with a patsy but getting us to do their work for them is even better.

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MasterOfIllusions 1 point ago +1 / -0

Don't you get it? Your rapist WANTS you to fight back so he has justification to really hurt you!

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doug2 1 point ago +1 / -0

Absolutely not what this is all about

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Judicator 23 points ago +23 / -0

Yeah I thought this was pretty well assessed already that the mandate itself is not their motive. Too much work for too little to gain.

Far better as a method of distraction, controlling the topic, and altering the narrative. Pressure businesses for free, take attention off of all of the other failures, and "appear strong when weak", so on.

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Error404 6 points ago +6 / -0

I think it’s less about “too little gain” and more about if it gets out of control the whole thing could implode. Any gain even little gain is a benefit to their agenda. A reversal of any kind could be devastating to their narrative.

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Judicator 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm saying it's typical risk reward, and it fails that calculation miserably. Risk is astronomically higher compared to the quantity of reward which is really low and can be made up for a lot less risk in other ways.

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mateus 4 points ago +4 / -0

Bingo!

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Balzenburg 4 points ago +4 / -0

This

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603win 11 points ago +11 / -0

They definitely crossed a line with this one, so I’m going to rule this a neutral zone infraction.

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Kekintosh2020 8 points ago +8 / -0

Kek but fuck the NFL

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Drewski1138 5 points ago +5 / -0

NFL? What if he was saying they violated the Klingon Neutral zone?

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jubyeonin 5 points ago +5 / -0

Kek but fuck the new Star Trek.

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dudebro 234 points ago +234 / -0

So what's the implication here? They bluffed to trick employers into mandatory vaccines?

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FauciOuchi 206 points ago +207 / -1

Yes. Cover for woke companies to start purges

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thisisatestof2 32 points ago +33 / -1

I have not heard of any companies making changes as a result of this policy, at least very large ones that would be national headlines. Locally, several large companies that would be impacted by this had said they were making no changes because there was nothing for them to review so it was remain status quo.

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Dalek07 32 points ago +32 / -0

I work for a fortune 500 company with plants all over the world. We were informed yesterday that corporate will be waiting for Osha's guidance and implementing the mandate. I imagine others are waiting on Osha as well.

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MagaMagaChooChoo 16 points ago +16 / -0

Same. I won’t get it nor will I comply with testing and masking. They will need to fire me.

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Bananaguard 5 points ago +5 / -0

That's right. Make them do it. You want to kick my kindergarten daughter out of music class for not wearing double masks, that's on you; and shame on you.

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M1919A2 12 points ago +12 / -0

My wife is corporate counsel at a large private trucking company and they had an all hands on deck C-level meeting on Monday. She's the employment law expert so was there as the operations guy informed them that should this mandate come down the pipe at least 40% of their truckers, probably more like 50% would walk out the door. If it extends to contract driver that number will go up to 70%. CFO's response was that if that were to happen the company would implode and be bankrupt within weeks.

Suddenly people like the GC that has been very-very pro-vax suddenly had a change of heart when it would be their salary that was suddenly at stake with this mandate.

Other interesting thing that came out is that 20% of their fleet is currently down for repairs and due to supply chain issues even getting things for basic maintenance is a problem let alone if a truck has a sensor problem, etc..

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NC_patriot 12 points ago +12 / -0

I just got an email like this as well.

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fazaman 9 points ago +9 / -0

I love how it's "we're waiting on guidance on how, exactly, to oppress you" and not "we don't think they have the authority for a mandate. We need to wait for the actual order to know the specifics, but we will fight to protects your rights, if it comes to that."

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Tallsie 4 points ago +4 / -0

They are also letting you know that your grievances should be taken up with OSHA

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SanFranShitty 4 points ago +4 / -0

Same. Fortune 500 company rolled out new mandate rules a couple days before Biden announced. Very suspicious now about timing and the fact that none of this has actually been executed by government. Hum…

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el_gato_pepe 20 points ago +20 / -0

Another pede posted a screenshot from 3M stating shots were mandatory. Also a video of a nurse getting run out of her hospital job.

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NotInFormation 17 points ago +17 / -0

'this' obviously missed the many threads here about people being ordered to jab by MM/DD/2021 or be unemployed.

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el_gato_pepe 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yep. I have a family member that was ordered to get and they work for a well-known company.

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based_unicorn 11 points ago +11 / -0

The CEO of my company sent out an email about a week before Biden’s announcement saying all employees need to be fully vaccinated by October 12th or submit to weekly testing thereafter. Interesting timing.

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Vlad_The_Impaler 5 points ago +6 / -1

Funny. They fail to mention the tests are highly inaccurate with false positives up to 40% of the time.

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SanFranShitty 3 points ago +3 / -0

Same type of situation. Very interesting timing!

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dismybrowseacct 10 points ago +10 / -0

In my company no official announcement was made but one of the VPs told his team to get it done. We're definitely big enough and I would assume our typical overweight HR reps would of been happy to enforce it. But everything has been quiet and I hope this is a nothing burger.

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HiddenDekuScrub 9 points ago +9 / -0

There have been murmurs of a few fortune 500 and other such companies trying to require it en masse, using the mandate as an "excuse".

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Counterforce1 7 points ago +7 / -0

THIS

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seventeenseventysix 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's not a bluff as cover for woke companies to start purges. It is a real order that allows those companies to purge employees by lawfully terminating them for non-compliance.

No sense in it being a bluff when they can do it for real.

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least_counties_ever 70 points ago +71 / -1

It didn’t work at my company. They announced the very next day we won’t have vaccine mandates, and I’m in commiefornia. My only worries are what Gavin Pondscum will do.

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MemeSquad 26 points ago +26 / -0

Gruesome Newsom

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RoscoePColtraine 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hairgel Hitler

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shaven_llama 19 points ago +19 / -0

I would say, even companies who might be inclined to require vaccines themselves have an interest in telling the federal government to f*ck off on this one. It sets a precedent that the federal government has a right to come in and micromanage how you run your own business.

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FreeFlorida 14 points ago +16 / -2

well you voted for him, I mean I'm sure your vote went to him

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fazaman 6 points ago +6 / -0

I wouldn't be surprised it my vote went to him, and I've only ever visited California.

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2scoops2terms99 9 points ago +9 / -0

Same. Email was sent almost immediately after the announcement that they would never require something like that

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IntergalacticWalrus 1 point ago +2 / -1

Just wait until he’s “president”

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HunterBidensPC 42 points ago +43 / -1

To distract from Afghanistan

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OldMoscowRules 20 points ago +20 / -0

I think you're right, but man, that's a big hit to take for a distraction.

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HunterBidensPC 14 points ago +15 / -1

They’re just swinging their dicks around trying to show us all that they have all the power and can mandate/control us however they want regardless of how we feel about them or their fuck ups abroad

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Falling_ferret 13 points ago +13 / -0

Why do you guys assume incompetence always?

They stole the election, that required forethought. They're not just yanking our chains for fun, they're doing it to make sure they have more and more power. It's never enough for them, so they always must do more.

I don't think the mandate has teeth. But it does perfectly line up the next step of their plan - whatever that may be. I think Biden saying what he did signals that we're going on to the next phase.

Finger in the air guess, they know the economy is about to crash. Biden mandating this gives him the out by blaming the unvaxxed. "Look, the economy could have opened BUT they were too selfish!".

Will any employer be fined $14k? I don't think so. Will Biden point to this moment to justify clamping down even harder? Absolutely.

Buckle up buckerroos, we're about to hit a wall of shit, again.

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Based-Engineer 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think your analysis is spot-on. Would subscribe to the newsletter.

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GetVaxxedAndDie 8 points ago +8 / -0

I think if this speculation is true, it made Biden look powerful.

Even if it never goes anywhere, private companies may preemptively create a program like this, which is technically legal is the private business chooses to do so on their own and is not forced to by a mandate.

I think this was obviously to shift the news cycle from the complete and utter shit show that was afghanistan and draw everyone's attention to this massive new thing that is obviously going to piss off tons of people.

Now with the Milley issue going on, I am more inclined to believe this to be true, because if you think about it the mandate took the heat off of Biden by shifting the narrative, and now they are using Milley as the fall guy for afghanistan again to take the heat off of Biden, they needed to buy themselves time to figure out a way to make Afghanistan not look like Biden's fault and instead shift the blame to someone else that a vast majority of America hates and that is Gen. Milley.

However it's possible that they come back to this mandate later to fuck with people or even possibly attempt to force it, noone knows but this article is definitely some good food for thought on how the press, and Biden admin are thinking

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dannypipes75 6 points ago +6 / -0

I don't see how it makes Biden look powerful in any way. Even his supporters know that he does what he's told. None of his agenda are his ideas.

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Yuri_Gagarin 15 points ago +16 / -1

The study's out of Israel is that the Clot Shot™ is not working. They are on there 4 booster and peeps are still getting sick. This is the Clot Shot™ merry go round.

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FreeFlorida 9 points ago +9 / -0

Clot Shot Russian roulette

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NotInFormation 4 points ago +4 / -0

Every chamber has a bullet.

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GitmObama 9 points ago +9 / -0

Yep. Also keep the scary plandemic alive to maintain control

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FreeFlorida 15 points ago +15 / -0

you mean the pandemic so scary you would not notice ifs existence unless MSM blasted it in your face for 526 days

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GitmObama 7 points ago +7 / -0

Thaaaat's the one. Lol. Even my weather app has a covid infection/death counter ffs!!

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FreeFlorida 1 point ago +1 / -0

LOLz

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user365927285937 2 points ago +2 / -0

BRUH LOL

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Shadilayerdip 6 points ago +6 / -0

I think this is an attempt to go on the offense as a defense. We must have them on the ropes for them to make a move this desperate. IMO we need to make sure to go scorched earth on the entire Democrat establishment and throw this in their faces constantly from now until forever. They don’t believe in human rights. But first we have to do something about our “elections.”

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tholins 20 points ago +20 / -0

I think it’s that they bluffed just to get the talking points out there and distract from other shit that’s going on.

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FreeFlorida 9 points ago +9 / -0

see it got you all frazzled too just like me but friend every minute you spend thinking about the possibility of mandatory vaccines the other team is working on some more sinister and diabolical plan

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jubyeonin 3 points ago +3 / -0

Every minute you think about the possibility of some more sinister and diabolical plan, they are working on this.

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bobobob 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's like his failure in Afghanistan never happened.

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Error404 8 points ago +8 / -0

The mental war/battle is real.

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Coslin 107 points ago +108 / -1

Scare tactics? Not surprising.

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TommyLasordasBallBag 18 points ago +18 / -0

"We are running out of patience"

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NZbacon 5 points ago +5 / -0

They are running out of ideas...

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TommyLasordasBallBag 6 points ago +6 / -0

Wait until the Mu variant.

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user365927285937 1 point ago +1 / -0

Mooooooooo

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FreeFlorida 1 point ago +1 / -0

🐮

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nakedjay 100 points ago +101 / -1

It was pretty clear that they needed a distraction from the Afghanistan fallout. That's all this was, it forced the media news cycle away from that.

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Jaqen 7 points ago +7 / -0

Most here understand the left is constantly obfuscating and projecting.

Here's what one poster thought about your admonishments:

https://patriots.win/p/12kFnCtczm/x/c/4JEWJp8wPBP

We can learn things from you, given you have something of value to teach. You'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar, though.

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FuckU/Spez 76 points ago +76 / -0

Pedo though we'd all go get them just because he said so. Fuck him and his crackhead son.

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seventeenseventysix 71 points ago +73 / -2

I'm not sure I want to take this one person's analysis over the stated goals (emphatically supported by some employers and government agencies) of the falsely-sitting President and his administration of deep-state swamp rats who are openly trying to purge the non-compliant from the government and military.

He's got a good point, but I'm not going to discount the stated and long-anticipated intent of the people who are actively trying to collapse the Republic in favor of one guy saying "this seems fishy".

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potbelliedgoblino 24 points ago +24 / -0

Sundance still leans too hard on logic when trying to parse the machinations of the us govt. He has had many great analyses but a number are so deep and complex and built by reason that he ends up way off the path that's being charted by plate spinning, corruption, and sheer stupidity.

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BasedNtruth 4 points ago +4 / -0

Agree

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strawman7 11 points ago +11 / -0

Yes it's only a possibility. Prepare for the worst, especially when they've disclosed plans.

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Based-Engineer 10 points ago +10 / -0

One of the comments cited this article which details how the Biden admin is absolutely working on this mandate behind the scenes. Idk what's what, but best to prepare for the worst.

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jubyeonin 4 points ago +4 / -0

They need it for the New World Order. They will try to get it done. The way they announced it is the more direct route, but stopping the most direct route does not stop it entirely.

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BasedNtruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

Agreed for sure

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HiddenDekuScrub 8 points ago +8 / -0

I think the problem is the government is playing a shell game here. They can't force people and even remotely look good doing it, so they're going to turn big business into the "bad guys", while the same big businesses get to point at the government for being the "bad guys".

Just look at the airlines. I can't tell you how often I was wondering whether it was really the airlines requiring masks, or the government.

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SanFranShitty 5 points ago +5 / -0

“Federal law requires masks be worn at all times”.

What law???

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geckogreen 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'm not sure about the analysis either. the OSHA paragraph says a rule is coming. So maybe they are just working on the details?

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mixednuts86 3 points ago +3 / -0

To monitor vaccine compliance across these businesses is going to be as big as Obamacare. I don't know how OSHA would be able to handle any amount of volume. There actually needed to be laws in place to enforce Obama care. I agree that this article is weak, but the systems needed to implement and track this would be very large. My guess is they are using this mostly as a scare tactic, potentially working on systems in the background and assuredly expecting many, many legal challenges.

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DaleGribbleWasRight 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ya - the whole foundation of this article is that the government hasn't gotten anything on their website after a week? Total garbage argument.

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LibtardJesus 58 points ago +58 / -0

It is weird that my employer has even stopped talking about jamming vaccines into everyone's arm like they usually did everyday.

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shaven_llama 27 points ago +27 / -0

Maybe they understand there's going to be real consequences for them for treating the unvaxxed like second class citizens. It's not a free virtue signal for them.

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BidensButtWiper 22 points ago +22 / -0

I don't believe it's that.

These people can't fathom that we wouldn't do it. Several people at my job just assume since Biden announced that it's required I went out and got my shot. They were literally speechless when I made a comment that I may not be here in a few months when Biden's mandate takes effect. "But.... it's required."

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GetVaxxedAndDie 16 points ago +16 / -0

Yeah some people are complete and total robots that just do anything and everything their told.

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dykstra89 10 points ago +10 / -0

they legit think the government is some unstoppable force of nature. they have no knowledge of history, they can't read and their diets have lowered their IQ to nearly single digits.

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Nancys_drooping_eye 3 points ago +3 / -0

Several doomer faggots on this site think the same.

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Wallypip3 2 points ago +2 / -0

Can you elaborate on your comment please?

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befehlistbefehl 9 points ago +10 / -1

They know that their vax/mask won't protect them once antivaxxers start distributing tyranny-21 shots.

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ObongoForPrison2020 18 points ago +18 / -0

I think many of them are slowly starting to wake up to the reality that we're dead fucking serious about being fired/leaving. And if you "mandate" mandate...as in...you use physical force to inject me? You're dead. That fucking simple.

Even a leftist cares more about its own putrid existence than to lose it over something like this.

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oldmanliverspots 4 points ago +4 / -0

managers at my job, which is requiring the shot or re-education plus a reason for declining, have been legitimately nervous about having to go through with putting people on unpaid leave. They've said they may make the shot totally mandatory, but it would be a disaster for them if they did. I work for a large hospital and they've already hired 100 travel nurses, and the deadline isn't even here yet... its Sept 17

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Wallypip3 2 points ago +2 / -0

Everywhere is hiring lots of travel nurses and techs.

You must live in a blue state.

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oldmanliverspots 1 point ago +1 / -0

it's hard to say for sure with our corrupt elections. the big cities are blue but the rest is red.

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Wallypip3 1 point ago +1 / -0

Must be in the North then or Georgia lmao

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PepeTheFrug 2 points ago +2 / -0

oh hey whats up LJ?

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LibtardJesus 3 points ago +3 / -0

Doing alright. Probably gonna take a .win break and avoid the petty squabbles for a while. With all the shit going on in the world, I got to pretend it's not happening. I love this place, but it can be stimulus overload at times. I'm going to do a deload and get away from all political media for month and concentrate on other things. Take care brother.

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PepeTheFrug 1 point ago +1 / -0

sorry to see you go sir, but you will be sorely missed. i completely understand, but life comes first always. i know ill see you back here soon. we need folks like you. take care of yourself brother.

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Spawnlingman 16 points ago +18 / -2

Correct. All these websites could update on monday and the author would go "oh"

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TheDTOMDon 1 point ago +4 / -3

Deported back to reddit, go concern troll there loser.

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TheDTOMDon -2 points ago +0 / -2

I just love triggering NPCs

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TheDTOMDon 0 points ago +1 / -1

Cry harder 😂

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Spawnlingman 0 points ago +1 / -1

You mean AOC isnt a good person? This site told me she was for months.

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QuickHands -8 points ago +2 / -10

Found the newbitch

Where are you pieces of shit even coming from? Next you'll be talking shit about the Gateway Pundit and saying they have no credibility. You apparently don't know jack shit about CTH and how they've had our backs SINCE THE FUCKING R/T_D DAYS

i really wish you people would just fuck off. You can't be bothered to do any research, look anything up. If you are actually one of us and a Trump supporter, then at best you're a lazy piece of shit. But you have all the hallmarks of a disillusioned Leftist who will be right back voting Democrat as soon as they abandon their communist push

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Drewski1138 4 points ago +4 / -0

But Gateway Pundit doesn’t have any credibility.

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jubyeonin 1 point ago +1 / -0

It literally was commies paraphrasing/summarizing Twitter videos or text poorly and posting the Tweet in the same "article" and normies liked it.

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NotAHandshake 28 points ago +28 / -0

They do this stuff to gauge just how many cucks out there will, without being actually asked to, do the leftist regime's bidding; consider it a pilot of sorts for a very decisive huge government overreach attempt that they do actually risk causing violent civil unrest over.

If they find enough employers cuck out at just the mention of this, then they know 2 years of psyops have done their job, and feel empowered to actually make the mandate shit a reality without fear of significant backlash. If not, then they hold off for a couple of months. They're not done trying though, believe that.

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ShrikeDeCil 8 points ago +8 / -0

Exactly. "Oh, well, going down to companies of 100 employees was on overreach, but the models predict it will go down fine if we make the limit 752 people. We can go to 100 next year."

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BasedNtruth 3 points ago +3 / -0

Exactly how they do it. Greats posts

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BidensButtWiper 2 points ago +2 / -0

Jokes on them, Iowa vaccination rates have dropped by 75% since Monday.

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TheEnclave89 1 point ago +1 / -0

At this point, I think the NWO is all in and committed to ruin America, and the World. People need to wake up, there is no going back now.

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MightyEighth 24 points ago +25 / -1

This “mandate” is exactly how you know a majority of the US is unvaccinated, any country with 80% vaccination rates would reach herd immunity and be done. They know the public don’t want their clot shots and are mad, using toothless legislation they know will never pass to scare the mild mannered ones into getting it by making it seem inevitable.

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Jarnes 10 points ago +10 / -0

...any country with 80% vaccination rates would reach herd immunity and be done.

Assuming the vaccine actually works.

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RizzlieDoodad 3 points ago +3 / -0

Well we'll never reach the magical number if they keep the borders open and don't mandate vaccines on immigrants

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RStroud 7 points ago +7 / -0

CDC sponsored blood donors data showed 83% had antibodies (a quarter of that from natural immunity) in May 2021. Most recent "spike" began in July and was the steepest spike yet (meaning infection spread more rapidly). Between may and July, there were millions of shots administered. The obvious conclusion is that vaccines didn't do shit. Blaming the unvaccinated is, at best, scapegoating.

We're easily above 90% measurable antibodies in the population. However, the vaccine is marginally effective, and far less effective than infection (lacks certain antibodies, lower count). Intentionally exposing healthy people to live virus would have worked better. Variolation might have worked, too. Ivermectin would still work.

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_Sully_ 5 points ago +5 / -0

The obvious conclusion should be that they are effective, at killing natural immunity of Covid and many other things. That should really be the death knell.

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Diotima 3 points ago +3 / -0

My CEO essentially said if you don't get the shot you're getting fired unless you can get a exemption.

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tentonbudgie 6 points ago +6 / -0

Fuck her

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PlatinumFMorgan 2 points ago +2 / -0

....in the ass.

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xkgb 2 points ago +2 / -0

Mine too, even before this OSHA BS.

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SanFranShitty 1 point ago +1 / -0

I live in a county that is at 85% yet oddly they are cracking down more and harder. So yeah… not buying the official numbers

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Americanapplepie 21 points ago +22 / -1

I understand but I’ll say this: don’t count your chickens before they’re hatched. It’s only been a few days, I don’t trust that they’ll just sit on this.

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GetVaxxedAndDie 7 points ago +7 / -0

I imagine if we haven't seen any guidance about this mandate over the next couple of weeks, then we can probably assume its dead on arrival or they will quietly pretend it never happened.

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invalid_data 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah aren't, they are scheming. These corporations are all pushing it. Raytheon Technologies pushed their mandate out today.

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aKekabove 1 point ago +1 / -0

vex only ..or testing option?

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QuickHands -2 points ago +3 / -5

Because the clock only started once Biden stepped up to the podium? Just how dense are you?

We had thousands of pages of pork and bullshit 'COVID' bill that congress had like 24 hours to read (LOL) and vote on, but you're going to pretend the Biden Admin doesn't even have a National Mandate rough draft completed?

No wonder the Left thinks we're all gullible fucking idiots when we have people like you, who seem keen, but are actually naïve to an almost reckless degree.

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jubyeonin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Trump already passed that omnibus. He could because it was an omnibus bill and it was only somewhat treasonous and didn't violate the Constitution as much, if we are able to grade such things.

That's not what this is. He's referring to the announcement, which is the open declaration of the intent, that just happened a few days ago.

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victory2024 20 points ago +21 / -1

I would take the link with a grain of salt. Federal agencies like OSHA are lazy and aren't quick to issue new rules. I'm sure the new rule is coming, it might just take a while.

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A_Feral_Duck 5 points ago +6 / -1

Very true. Likewise with the federal employee guidelines due tomorrow and contractors by the 24th. That the material isn’t in early means nothing.

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xkgb 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think OSHA already did this for Healthcare workers, I don't think the framing here that it's all a bluff is correct. I think Biden wants to destroy the economy and is not bluffing.

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QuickHands -4 points ago +2 / -6

Because Biden couldn't have drafted the rules months ago? Just how stupid are you people?

It's like you're being paid to come here and act like fucking idiots.

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victory2024 4 points ago +4 / -0

It's Biden you're talking about. He probably doesn't remember what he had for breakfast.

Seriously with the other federal agencies that I work with, they are often years behind congressionally mandated deadlines to draft new rules.

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QuickHands 2 points ago +4 / -2

You joke but you don't understand how much thought goes into the calculation i make before just openly insulting people.

It's clear they haven't read the article. Crystal clear. So what could possibly be their objective by claiming the article is false? Pure demoralization. One way or another, whether they're just down on their luck, or they're being paid to demoralize us here.

So fuck them and in fact, fuck you as well unless and until you're ready to do a few meta-analyses demonstrating that the people i insulted actually DID likely read and thoroughly understand the article. Go ahead. If you really cared you would gladly do so.

You and i both know you won't, because you don't care. You just want to make shithead snide comments, which is fine.....but know your role.

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BidensButtWiper 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sometimes tough love is needed.

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BidensButtWiper 1 point ago +1 / -0

You're not gonna make it very long when the shooting starts, friendo.

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BidensButtWiper 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nobody's shooting.

And that's a big problem and why we're entering tyranny

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laurabranigan1 18 points ago +19 / -1

They want the private businesses take the bullets

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LtPatterson 17 points ago +17 / -0

Tell that to my company who mandated it over a month ago.

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QSWO1 9 points ago +11 / -2

You work for a faggot.

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lostremote- 5 points ago +5 / -0

Tell your company its illegal and if they fire you sue them into the ground.

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LtPatterson 1 point ago +1 / -0

Should have added I am exempted.

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lostremote- 1 point ago +1 / -0

Im attempting to get a religious exemption myself

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LtPatterson 2 points ago +2 / -0

Check out lc.org for some great help and advice.

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ebuy123 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

sorry to hear it.

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Kyle1164 1 point ago +1 / -0

same ugh

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45454545454545454545 12 points ago +14 / -2

No one should have thought the mandate would happen quickly. The child sniffer instructed a department to create a rule that would require vaccines or weekly testing. These agencies do not usually create rules quickly - there is typical red tape involved.

Obviously commies don't care about rules and could implement it quickly if they really wanted to. BUT the short of it is - no one in government suggested that the osha mandate would happen quickly. Both the commie media and the conservative reactionaries all assumed it would.

I wouldn't call it a scam at this point - just added pressure for companies that want to stay ahead of mandates or want an excuse to force the shit on their employers. Osha will follow through with the executive order at its own pace.

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QuickHands -6 points ago +3 / -9

Read the article you fucking dipshit

Guidance comes before rules. No guidance, no rules. No rule, no deadline. Is your stupid ass still able to follow along?

You cannot simultaneously call this an emergency but then take you sweet time issuing the guidance, which is the Journalist equivalent of at least writing a headline.....and THEN writing the story

Once again for the assholes, frauds, morons and shills among us: NO GUIDANCE, NO RULE

READ THE FUCKING ARTICLE, you dicksucker.

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QuickHands -5 points ago +1 / -6

You've never gotten into a bar fight, have you? Read though a page or two of my post history and it's crystal clear, I'm a good faith participant.

You think i wouldn't be banned long ago if mods didn't agree with my self-assessment? Are you naive enough to think these frauds and shills I'm insulting aren't reporting my comments and trying to get me removed? Come on, bro. You're not an idiot so stop acting like one.

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45454545454545454545 2 points ago +2 / -0

You mean the article written on the 15th that states the guidance date deadline is the 16th?

You mean the article that then also, very confusingly, says

There’s no deadline for OSHA to generate the guidance – and there’s certainly no deadline for the OSHA rule itself, which will come as an outcome of that initial guidance part.

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QuickHands -4 points ago +1 / -5

The federal worker requirement has a date for guidance to execute the order listed as Sept. 16th:

Federal Worker requirement, not OSHA. The issue here is that you think you're much smarter than you actually are. In actuality, you are an idiot who wants to be considered correct more than you actually want to ENSURE you are correct.

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45454545454545454545 1 point ago +3 / -2

Thanks for explaining that discrepancy.

Don't care if randos on here think I'm smart, I'm trying to educate them when the mods sticky false information. Nothing in the article showing that the EO is a scam.

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QuickHands -3 points ago +1 / -4

And yet here you are being a piece of shit accusing the mods of stickying false info, yet your dicksucking ass has yet to post ANYTHING demonstrating that

See this is why I have to be angry all the time, because of trash like you

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TommyJarvis 11 points ago +11 / -0

This action by the Bidet admin is a furious attack by the far left on their political opponents. It was intended to stress, frighten and harm us.

The first part is it was meant to stress us, to occupy our minds. It's psychological warfare to introduce the idea that we are "hunted" and vulnerable.

The second is to frighten us, to actively make us cower with the impending loss of our livelihoods, making us weaker and easier to control.

The third is to harm us. The angry far left does NOTHING but go on offense. They do not block shots, they only fire more punches marching forward. They don't bother with blocking or defense because that is a waste of time. This shows their game plan is to keep pushing on offense and force us into a perpetual state of covering up as they rain down blows.

I don't believe the intent was this EVER to be a real rule that was enforced. This is how the left fights and until we stop covering up and start punching back harder they will keep advancing and punching.

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tentonbudgie 2 points ago +2 / -0

It seems to be working on their part. I think it’s time for US to go on the attack. Start posting pics of “petty tyrants” and their over the top enforcement of bullshit.

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TheEnclave89 1 point ago +1 / -0

Excellent point. It's very important that the generic American conservative to understand: we are at war.

People need to break the conditioning that the establishment GOP, or whatever, cares about them. There is no way to win the struggle on the defense, the GOP have done absolutely nothing for many decades.

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sovereign_citizen 11 points ago +11 / -0

Kinda like the door-to-door vaccine task force? that never happened either.

They know they can't enforce this nonsense but it does give cover to woke companies like mine that make leadership say crap like "where else they gonna go now?!" when discussing the possible fallout from their mandate.

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ebuy123 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

exactly like that

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HunterBidensPC 9 points ago +9 / -0

It’s all just biden and the cabal swinging their dick around

“Yeah I know you’re mad about Afghanistan but look what we could mandate if we wanted to. Don’t forget who is in charge”

Seems the federal gov forgot a long time ago the people are in charge. And so have some of us

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KnobGoblin 8 points ago +8 / -0

This was obvious - this administration is bluffing its way to compliance. Hold your ground we are in a high stakes game of chicken between Liberty and Tyranny DO NOT BLINK FIRST.

The unfortunate thing is by bluffing they are only further eroding any confidence the country has in the federal government.

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Arnoldcfossen 7 points ago +7 / -0

OSHA has apparently announced that they do not have the manpower to enforce and that they would have to rely on employee complaints to companies that the companies then informed OSHA about. It is not happening. OSHA also stated they would again review the situation in March 2022. Moreover, OSHA and no other agencies have made any attempts or had any meetings relative to beginning the process of developing rules.

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dixie1963 1 point ago +1 / -0

What is the source of this information? Would appreciate a link as my husband is very worried about this.

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Beef_Vegan 7 points ago +7 / -0

My employer is telling us the decision comes by the 24th according to the EO as the guidelines will be laid out. Many of us are prepared to get fired if they get pushy.

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lostremote- 3 points ago +3 / -0

You will have a hell of a lawsuit if they fire you

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spezisacuckold 6 points ago +6 / -0

I read the article. It's 100% speculation. I will personally bank on Democrats trying to enforce this tyranny and I think you will be an absolute fool to not be proactive and fight back.

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PensivePatriot 6 points ago +6 / -0

I pray this is true.

My employer has said October 2nd is the "must vax by" date, and their weekly newsletter had a big image of horse hooves saying "Don't use Ivermectin" in it, so I know they're on the left and trying to stay ahead of the curve.

Honestly, I was about to make a proper post and ask you guys what I should do. My employer is the biggest healthcare organization in CO, and my skillset is a specialized entity within that.

If I lose my job on October 2nd, what should I do? I've been scaling up my crypto efforts to stand in the gap via staking, but I'm not at the $300 a day return that I want which would make me feel comfortable about losing employment.

Pedes, in a first for myself, I sincerely ask,

What do?

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ebuy123 [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

the OSHA/federal mandate would not be the same as a private employer mandate.

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ebuy123 [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

make a proper post, 100%. the best minds on here will respond.

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PensivePatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thanks for the quick response :) I'll do exactly that.

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FUSnowflake 1 point ago +1 / -0

Move to a sane state.

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Bohemyth_2 5 points ago +5 / -0

Intended to induce more jabs like the fda’s fake approval

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BarneyFrank 5 points ago +5 / -0

Wait! So the old man’s patience wasn’t wearing thin?

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ebuy123 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

haha!

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todayabetterme 5 points ago +5 / -0

I'm not sure I buy into the logic of "they won't do it because it'll be bad for economy" given what we've experienced over the past 1.5 years.

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ckover9000 5 points ago +5 / -0

Doesn't matter WILL NOT COMPLY

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g00se2k 5 points ago +5 / -0

My company of well over 1,000 employees hasn't said a word about this since Sleepy Joe's big announcement last week. It's DOA in most states.

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AbrahamLincoln 5 points ago +5 / -0

When the pedophile said he was going to ask OSHA to recommend X, Y & Z, you could see the scam forming.

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shaven_llama 1 point ago +1 / -0

OSHA may say, "Hey... we can't actually do that." After stalling for months. Unless they like being embarrassed in court.

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behemoth887 5 points ago +5 / -0

it adds up. most of the vaxx scare has been them not forcing you to take it but scaring you into taking it yourself, and using peer pressure tactics "come on bros 30% took it. 40%. 50%. 60%. 70%."

it's kind of like how CNN is trash but nobody forces anybody to watch it. they're gonna get away with it cuz they never actually forced it. they just said they were going to and then didn't.

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drumdude29 1 point ago +1 / -0

Remember how Hillary had a 99% chance of winning, media just makes shit up.

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Cowboyup4 5 points ago +5 / -0

Fuck Joe Biden!

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Pepbrandt 5 points ago +5 / -0

Hmm. Sounds like wishful thinking by Sundance's part.

I think we're past the point where mandates will be written out in detail.

Our country's turned into a kingdom "I here by declare vaccines for 100 employee companies!" and that's it. Any company that doesn't comply will be forced out of existence by the big-tech / big-bank kingdom.

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shaven_llama 5 points ago +5 / -0

Meh, dunno. Obviously the OSHA rule is illegal. At this point I think they're just nibbling at the edges, doing what they can to intimidate and coerce people to get the shot just to bump that vax rate up a percentage point or two.

Oh, and cause economic chaos as people quit jobs, move around, find new jobs, etc., because they're agents of chaos.

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Basard 5 points ago +5 / -0

Well he did say he was just insructing a team to put a plan together.......

Kinda like he said they put together the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud team in history.....

Both right.

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Space_Force 4 points ago +4 / -0

🚨NEWSFLASH🚨 Everthing this administration says is a goddamn lie. EVERYTHING!

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AbrahamLincoln 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fact check: FALSE. Biden said he doesn't drink baby's blood.

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SchoolBoyTim 4 points ago +4 / -0

I know two people that were forced to get vaccinated at threat of losing their job after this announcement. Companies are implementing the mandate regardless.

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ebuy123 [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

100% employers are abusing this and collaborating with biden

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Wintergreen 4 points ago +4 / -0

There is precedence for this: The door-to-door scheme that never launched.

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DestroyerofCobwebs 4 points ago +4 / -0

Due to the industry I work in, I routinely receive 30-40 recruiter emails a day about various jobs. Over the last week, I've been looking at most of these messages (I usually just trash them), seeing if employers are starting to demand vaccination as a condition of employment.

Not one of them lists being vaccinated as a requirement.

The employers who want to use this fake mandate as an excuse, will. The rest of them will ignore it until it's wound its way through courts, if the rule is even published.

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KingOfTards 4 points ago +4 / -0

I said it when it happened. Companies can choose to do it but it will not be EO implemented.

Right now they are busy trying to normalize treason with Milley using fake news. That will result in absolutely nothing. It's just to make us think it all happened.

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Stanwyk74 4 points ago +4 / -0

Like the media...throw shit at the wall and watch the narrative live for months. Damage done. Doesn't matter thatvit was foind to be false months later. Millions lose their jobs and you gain power.

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oriosmit 4 points ago +4 / -0

I would wait until the 24th at minimum to call it dead. To think Government wouldn't take an opportunity to grab more power is silly. Of course they would. Wouldn't hold my breath for this to magically get swept under the rug because of no due date for the OSHA rule to be drafted.

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IntrepidBurger 4 points ago +4 / -0

It was a feint to get you to stop focusing on Afghanistan, exactly as Trump himself said.

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hazelknut 4 points ago +4 / -0

this is the way I want all my 'news' delivered to me, short and sweet. facts and simplicity. way too many 2000 word opinions with a ton of conjecture and inuendo.

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Fordheartskav 4 points ago +4 / -0

Well it worked! Got the world distracted enough to forget about his bs in Afghanistan and gave the msm the opportunity to stop having to cover it

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Right_of_Sinner 4 points ago +4 / -0

all a distraction from Afghanistan and the audits. now with more division!

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HansMann 1 point ago +1 / -0

Audits? What audits?

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SanFranShitty 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is sooo interesting because a few leftists I know have been saying that these mandates are coming from private business and I’ve been reminding them about Biden’s speech.

Wondering now how they reached that conclusion so soon… These are not smart people!

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ObamakilledJoan 3 points ago +3 / -0

Welllll Raytheon just put the hammer down.

Vax or your fired. Not even a testing option.

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Global_Tornado 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why do some of you fucks act like a testing option is a victory?

Test results are all fake and use to discriminate against christians.

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4evarbulk 3 points ago +3 / -0

My guess is they're working very carefully and wording it just right to make it pretty much lawsuit proof. These people are pure evil, they're going to do everything in their power to ensure the peasants bend to their will.