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basedvirginian 297 points ago +300 / -3

Make fat camps mandatory for anyone obese, and then maybe we can start talking about socialized medicine.

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Deplorable_and_Proud 89 points ago +90 / -1

Yeah you know we can just put them in camps and starve them just like back in the good ole days. 🤡

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Deplorable_and_Proud 58 points ago +59 / -1

"It's just makes common sense." - Anthony Fauci

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FUCKANTlFA 10 points ago +11 / -1

I mean, if that’s what we gotta do, it’s what we gotta do

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SteveRogers42 19 points ago +19 / -0

If it saves only one life…

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ScullyMully -22 points ago +7 / -29

What a disgusting comment, especially on Yom Kippur, a day of atonement.

The God of the Hebrew Bible and the Christian Bible is the same God.

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amarie 17 points ago +19 / -2

We are fighting a war. Did you see Nicki Minaj was just banned from Twitter? She said the vaccine made her friends testicles swell up , so much so, that his fiance cancelled the wedding and left him. GOD has a sense of humor! We need to wake people up and if talking about "unvaccinated camps" in terms of "fat camps" to draw a parallel that people can relate to, then we must. Most of the world is not even aware it is Yom Kippur, and so don' t know they need to be reverent today. God used Trump of all people, to help save America. God works in mysterious ways, but one thing is for sure, God helps those who help themselves and stopping Tyranny around the world and especially the USA, happens EVERY DAY and doesn't cease for Holidays.

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npc_NULL 15 points ago +15 / -0

she tweeted a tucker carlson clip to 23 million people....they had to clamp that shit

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Jimmyjetfuel 7 points ago +7 / -0

If your balls swell to the size of grapefruit, that means that its working!

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Quietam_Unum 4 points ago +4 / -0

She said the vaccine made her friends testicles swell up

But... but... Fraudchi said the vax didn't cause that! Never saw the patient (when is the last time he saw any patient?) and knows nothing about the guy, but the evil little garden gnome just knows the vax didn't cause it.

Pull the other one; it's got bells on...

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ScullyMully -14 points ago +3 / -17

What the he'll does Nicky Minaj have to do with perverse pro-Holocaust posts?

You're "fighting a war". Sure ya are 🙄

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tom_machine 14 points ago +16 / -2

Fauci looks like a goblin. He's not Jewish. You're welcome for explaining the joke. God forbid anybody make a joke about your past persecution on your sacred little day. You'll have to forgive me, because I'm a little preoccupied with the persecution that's happening to people like me right fucking now.

Find me a jew, and I'll show you somebody who thinks everybody else should care about their little problems, and get absolutely nothing in return.

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zigmund_fraud 5 points ago +5 / -0

Jew (ish) here. I don't give a shit if you care about my problems. In fact, I'd prefer everyone just worry about their own.

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sun_wolf 4 points ago +4 / -0

They are so exhausting and have no clue how literally every other tribe of people actually sees them.

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Coprolite 4 points ago +5 / -1

Jews were not the only ones to be starved to death in camps and Nazis weren't the only ones to do it. Search Lizzie van Zyl

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Cthaat 3 points ago +6 / -3

especially on Yom Kippur, a day of atonement.

Nobody cares.

The God of the Hebrew Bible and the Christian Bible is the same God.

Everybody knows Jews worship Satan.

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HoppyHap 2 points ago +2 / -0

Gluttony is a sin that many Christians and Jews find easy to laugh about and accept has harmless while sins such as being an alcoholic or adulterer are quickly attacked. Paul wrote to the Corinthians “I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but I will not be mastered by anything. Law of Moses. It commanded that a “stubborn and rebellious” son was to be stoned after his parents presented him to the elders of the city as one who “will not obey our voice” and who is “a GLUTTON and a drunkard” (Deut. 21:20).

42% of the people who died worldwide from the China virus were obese. Makes sense to start with obese people. Either shape up or ship out.

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SecedeNOW 3 points ago +3 / -0

Heavyweights?

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princessalala 26 points ago +26 / -0

As a fat person who has struggled with weight their entire lives, I’m not against this 🤷🏻‍♀️

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princessalala 9 points ago +9 / -0

Thank you for the info and support. Being overweight my entire life, I know what to do, it’s just the doing it that is iffy. 😬😆 I’ve made a good amount of progress on my emotional eating but unfortunately not as much as I need.

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ciemPepe 6 points ago +6 / -0

Something that Jordan Peterson said that really helps me when I feel like doing nothing: "5 minutes is better than nothing" Start small to build a habit, start with 5 minutes of workout, pretty easy can be done while you watch a youtube video or listen to 1 song. It will be better than nothing, once you get into the routine, increase to 10 mins and so on. Baby steps but starting is better than not starting.

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princessalala 2 points ago +2 / -0

🙏🙏

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Frog_Anne 4 points ago +4 / -0

Emotional eating is really hard, but I'm sure you can overcome it! It's already a really good step to acknowledge that and be working on it, I hope you've found someone to help you with that. Exercise (just an activity you enjoy) is really helpful for your mood. A spouse or family member might also be willing to help you with habit building - the habits you need are the same habits that are good for everyone to have, after all. There are a lot of us here that need to work on our own habits, me included.

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princessalala 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thank you!! Geez frens are the best, this board is so supportive ☺️ Basically I have made progress with my stress/emotional eating but I haven’t gotten to the level of not doing it when my personal family life AND the world aren’t completely on fire. Hopefully I will!

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KekistanPM 4 points ago +4 / -0

I hear the hardest part is starting. I'm not overweight but I like to be more active now that I'm getting a bit older. I'll hike, take long walks around the block (like 5-9 miles) and play Ring Fit Adventure and Fitness Boxing on the Nintendo Switch. Except for when I'm out of town, I don't deviate from doing those things for fear I'll regress into an unhealthier state.

Bonus: Play Fitness Boxing while listening to informative audiobooks. I completed Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell over the span of a few weeks and learned a couple things.

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princessalala 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oooo I didn’t know ninetendo had boxing. I’m a big fan of boxing. I’ve done it throughout my life cause it helps with stead, I actually joined a new place and then we where required to wear masks cause of covid 😔😔 I kept going cause the owners were cool, but it ended up being too far away for me. I’ll look at the Nintendo. My life and my family’s life honestly became a shit show right before covid, like you wouldn’t believe me if I told ya, and I’m finally getting some stability, but I need to be able to keep up healthy habits even in a shit show, that’s were I am now in my journey 😆

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princessalala 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’m getting that kettlebell I’ve been thinking about thanks to you!

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droden 1 point ago +1 / -0

Habits > goals but weightless starts in the kitchen. You cannot out exercise a bad diet.

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Debutante 9 points ago +9 / -0

Check into the recent studies regarding probiotics. I dropped hard to lose excess weight once I began supplements.

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princessalala 9 points ago +9 / -0

Thanks! I’ve had varying success and failures, unfortunately sugar is my drug of choice for stress. I will not give up tho! 🙂

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loverat 8 points ago +9 / -1

If people can give up nicotine/heroin/meth/alcohol - you can give up sugar. Don't turn to fake sugar substitutes - it just keeps the psychological cravings active. The only way I kicked the habit was to stop eating sugar completely for six weeks and reset my taste buds. That includes everything - no fruit or fruit juice, no processed food, no breads/buns/crackers etc. I did also cut down on carbohydrates quite a bit but not keto style. But I ate as much of the following as I liked: Nuts, popcorn made with olive oil, plain greek yoghurt (that's all the probiotics you need right there - it even stopped my dog from reoccurring yeast infections he has 1/4 cup a day), raw veggies, plain milk. After 4 weeks - having anything sweet tastes very wrong. Now, if I want to lash out every once in a while I do and it's usually a smoothie made with a banana or frozen berries and it tastes incredibly sweet! I even have an ice cream every once in a while because I know that one ice cream once a month or so isn't in any way near as bad as sugar in my tea/coffee 4 times a day+chocolate+candies+cakes etc every day. I have a glass of unsweetened cranberry or pineapple juice with my dinner and if I feel like a crunchy sweet treat I have raw carrots instead of fruit.

I lost weight. I feel better. I sleep way better due to not being so darn hot. And nothing feels better than conquering something you consider to be detrimental to your health. This year I also gave up smoking. You can do it mate!

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KekistanPM 3 points ago +3 / -0

My weakness is fizzy drinks (I like calling "soda" that). But not long ago I bought a can of Arizona Iced Tea...and after drinking maybe 1/3 of the can and thought "this is too much sugar" and dumped the rest out.

My awareness of sugar in everything has definitely increased, and I've been drinking more water in proportion to other liquids than I ever have.

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BerettaStroker 1 point ago +1 / -0

Try sparkling water, instead, same fizz without the calories. It has been an adequate substitute for me, just took a little getting used to and some willpower.

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princessalala 1 point ago +1 / -0

THANK YOU!!! This board is so supportive! Yes I have had success with what I like to call “just not eating garbage” ie no sugar or white carbs.

I mentioned this above, basically I have made an progress with my stress eating, but unfortunately I haven’t gotten to not being able to stress eat when my personal family life AND the world are a shit show. Hopefully i will achieve this someday. I actually lost weight a few times over the last two years but I was not able to maintain calmness.

I’m actually very interested in learning adrenaline control, I am a fan of yoga and boxing, but haven’t done any exercise lately. I feel like this is really the key

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lostremote- 6 points ago +6 / -0

My crutch was alcohol. Gave it up 5 years ago and I dropped a ton of weight and I feel better than I ever have!

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MAGAMAN4EVA 3 points ago +3 / -0

I want this for smoking.

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Deplorable002 2 points ago +2 / -0

Smoked 10+ Years. Next year will be the 10th year since I quit. You can never have just one cigarette again…never. All the parts of smoking I enjoyed was just part of the addiction. ( driving, after dinner, etc) it goes away. I no longer miss any of it. ( maybe around 6 months even the tiniest cravings are gone ) Once a year I’ll be smoking in a dream. Think to myself “ what am I doing! This was so hard to quit! “ And don’t try Vapor, just left me wanting the real thing. The patches worked for me, NO RANDOM CIGARETTES on top of the patch, if so. Start over. Only used patches for 3 months, yes! They cost as much as cigarettes. But they do work! And cool dreams if you sleep with them on. ( to help fight that morning craving ) I do miss the dreams. Stop seeing those that smoke the first few weeks, and no drinking during that time! It’s when you’re at your weakest.

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CommieCucker 0 points ago +2 / -2

Quitting smoking is easier than you think, just stop buying them -- the actual addiction only lasts two days, then you're out of the woods

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Shilldetectionk9 3 points ago +3 / -0

I mean, if it was paid time off I'd go

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oldmanliverspots 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lol same

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Panopticon 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hard labor burns calories.

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ComebackKing 2 points ago +2 / -0

You'll work hard with a gun in your back for a bowl of rice a day.

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CantStumpTheTrump 14 points ago +14 / -0

Then we also need to have an honest conversation about if things like skydiving and other extreme sports, or any sports for that matter are actually necessary, as they involve putting yourself at undue risk.

You can work out to stay healthy without the extra danger.

Team building can also be handled in other ways.

Sorry everyone this is the system we are striving for it seems.

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ComebackKing 6 points ago +6 / -0

And the speed limit should be 25 mph at all times, even on the interstate.

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leonfire99 1 point ago +1 / -0

No more football, Instead you get a weight room and tabletop role playing games.

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loveshock 1 point ago +1 / -0

No Gay football.

Too many injuries

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TP4bunghole 0 points ago +1 / -1

They don't give a shit if you kill yourself or not.

The point is to justify the surveillance scheme by claiming they do.

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NeverBeFat 2 points ago +2 / -0

Never be fat.

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systemoverlord1984 2 points ago +2 / -0

Tony Perkis?

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Eu-is-socialist 2 points ago +2 / -0

HEALTHCARE IS SOCIALIZED. INSURANCES IS SOCIALIZED. IT ain't nationalized YET.

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OnlyTrump20 127 points ago +128 / -1

Obesity is the biggest drain on our limited health care resources. They drive up the insurance costs for the rest of us and reduce the level of quality in care as doctors have less time to spend with each patient.

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Choomguy 53 points ago +53 / -0

And on top of that, if you wanna talk about muh man made global warming, lets talk about how much fat people contribute vs healthy people.

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newuser999 11 points ago +11 / -0

Think about all the methane obese people put into the air with their Soy diet farts

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Deplorable002 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fatty here: the gassiest I’ve ever been in my life. Was when I was a vegetarian! ( that ate meat on cheat days ) A Part Time Vegetarian! I remember thinking all those hot little plant killing chicks were clearing out rooms behind closed doors. As in every 20 minutes or so!

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soapyballotjurybox 1 point ago +1 / -0

The dankest

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JS_Mill 4 points ago +4 / -0

Medical persecution arms race incoming (if the vaccine mandate isn't struck down)

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GenesisFiveTwo 26 points ago +27 / -1

That’s the idea. The sugar industry is promoted by the USDA to pad the pockets of the FDA. In Marion Nestle’s book Food Politics she stated that during bill clintons presidency the president of the sugar lobbying organization had the telephone number to Bill Clinton’s desk at the White House.

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Slugbert 1 point ago +4 / -3

Sugar isn’t really the enemy. We metabolize sugar pretty good. It’s HFCS that’s fucking everybody up because it’s now in everything. Obesity went way up when they substituted sugar w/ HFCS.

Edit: For clarification, I’m not advocating high sugar intake. You should do your best to cut both sugar and HFCS out of your diet.

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PocketSizeSun 4 points ago +4 / -0

At 50/50 HFCS you would be correct. However HFCS is 55% to 70% fructose.

Fructose Consumption, Lipogenesis, and Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28878197/

Watch some youtube videos of talks by Robert Lustig, MD where he explains how massively sugar and fructose impact your metabolic systems, cause weight gain, and destroy your liver.

Fructose 2.0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceFyF9px20Y

And a shorter (more recent?) talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDJsxw0uMLM

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Slugbert 2 points ago +2 / -0

Interesting. I’ll check those out. Thanks for posting those.

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GilaMonsterous 3 points ago +3 / -0

High fructose corn syrup?

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Slugbert 2 points ago +2 / -0

Correct

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hzuiel 3 points ago +4 / -1

That is nonsense, table sugar is sucrose, sucrose is fructose and glucose bonded together with a weak bond that instantly gets split in the stomach. HFCS is fructose and glucose in a solution, of differing ratios, 50/50 would be identical to sucrose. There is no scientific evidence that excessive sugar is healthy for you but HFCS is not. Excess sugar intake from any form is excess calories that get stored as fat and contribute to obesity, cellular stress, and insulin resistance. Any concentrated sugar source should be consumed in moderation.

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Slugbert 3 points ago +3 / -0

Please go back and read my post again. I never said excessive sugar consumption was healthy, only that the obesity epidemic started when manufacturers swapped out sugar for HFCS, which would lead one to believe 1) HFCS is metabolized differently. 2) Increase in consumption of HFCS because it’s in everything (like I mentioned). 3) Both.

They’ve done studies on this:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15051594/

Also look at obesity trends over time. Note that there’s a large uptick around 1980 when HFCS began being introduced into everything because sugar was getting too expensive and corn was cheap due to government subsidies at the time. I doubt people just started eating/drinking more.

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hzuiel 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Please go back and read my post again. I never said excessive sugar consumption was healthy, only that the obesity epidemic started when manufacturers swapped out sugar for HFCS"

No, I'm not rereading anything, and you're wrong.

"1) HFCS is metabolized differently."

It isn't, again, sucrose breaks down into fructose and sucrose almost instantly when it hits your stomach. In your digestive tract they are identical, both simple sugars, both absorbed straight into the blood stream, and almost the same metabolic process in the cells to utilize it.

"Also look at obesity trends over time. Note that there’s a large uptick around 1980 when HFCS began being introduced into everything"

If only every subject existed in a vacuum and simple conclusions were possible, but correlation does not equal causation. Many other things have gone on and were going on in that time frame. Most notably the "fat free" craze that for sure resulted in increased sugar consumption as companies actively swapped fats in their foods for sugar or HFCS. Overall people's consumption has gone up and activity level down(thought it does fluctuate, but overall downward trend over a longer snapshot or time). Here is a charting of the data, shows a steady climb in daily calorie intake. https://www.businessinsider.com/american-calorie-intake-last-52-years-diet-food-eating-increase-science-2017-6 From 1980 to 2013 is about a 600 calorie per day increase.

There are many factors at play, even the effects of advertising and media on consumer consumption of products which has changed over time. The most common formulas of HFCS are between 40-60% fructose, yes that's right, some hfcs has less fructose than sugar, honey, or any number of other "added sugar" sweeteners. So just think how ridiculous what you are saying is, a slight shift in the ratio of glucose and fructose to one another in diet is a major or primary factor in obesity. It couldn't be the steady increase in added sugar to diets that now accounts for over 15% of total calories consumed for the average person, I guess. Fun fact, after peaking, our rates of overall sugar consumption are actually dropping, while obesity continues to climb. Turns out that human nutrition and wellness is complicated. Sorry to burst the bubble for people that like arguments distilled down to simple scape goats.

Also fun, " In fact, one review paper points out that soda’s acidity actually causes sucrose to split apart into its constituent molecules, meaning the can starts out containing common sugar but looks quite different, at the molecular level, by the time you drink it. The authors note, “It is a sweet irony that purists who must have their sucrose-sweetened sodas end up drinking a sweetener composition more similar to HFCS and have been doing so since the first cola was formulated in the 1880s.”" We were effectively drinking HFCS in sodas all along.

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PocketSizeSun 1 point ago +1 / -0

I will just repeat here:

At 50/50 HFCS you would be correct. However HFCS is 55% to 70% fructose.

Fructose Consumption, Lipogenesis, and Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28878197/

Watch some youtube videos of talks by Robert Lustig, MD where he explains how massively sugar and fructose impact your metabolic systems, cause weight gain, and destroy your liver.

Fructose 2.0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceFyF9px20Y

And a shorter (more recent?) talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDJsxw0uMLM

The bottom line is that fructose is not very well handled in large quantities and the high prevalence of HFCS in fizzy drinks is something to be aware of and probably avoided.

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hzuiel 1 point ago +1 / -0

Did I at any point say that huge amounts of sugar intake was good for you? No? Thanks for wasting your time. The conversation was sugar(sucrose) vs HFCS, not HFCS vs healthy diet. Calorie for calorie your body handles HFCS about the same as sucrose, a fizzy drink made with sugar is not any healthier even though there are nitwits who drink sodas made with cane sugar and think that's somehow a health food.

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BidensButtWiper 1 point ago +1 / -0

This site is retsrded with their hate of HFCS.

I guess they want all the corn farmers, who voted for trump, to be bankrupt

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lixa 9 points ago +9 / -0

Why should we pay for health problems of people who make bad health choices? I don’t drink or smoke or do drugs, I keep a very healthy diet, and exercise a lot and meditate. Why should I foot the bill for someone who eats donuts and pizza to their hearts content while plopped in front of the tv?

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ScullyMully 1 point ago +3 / -2

End-of-life hospital care for dying elderly people is, actually. The most expensive weeks are the last weeks.

Fat people die younger, so they are less of a drain on the medical system than very, very old people hooked up to machines and monitored around the clock.

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roflcopt0rz_returns 3 points ago +3 / -0

So THAT’S why Andy Cuomo got his Emmy!!!!!

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Cacciali_Via 1 point ago +2 / -1

After seeing some elderly relatives and what their end of life care cost, it made me think the same also.

Fat people die earlier and probably dont go to the doctor as much. The government paying for 90 year olds getting joint replacements seem wild to me.

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ScullyMully 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fat people also pay more into Social Security, etc, and die younger, so they are more likely to be net contributors, as they won't be on benefits for decades

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MagaAndCats 1 point ago +1 / -0

That is true. From a quick search it look like obesity contributes to about 20% of health care spending. Still nothing to sniff at.

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hzuiel 2 points ago +2 / -0

The difference being that it's 20% that doesn't have to be there, it's optional. Getting old and dying isn't optional, everyone who doesn't kill themselves younger through some means, is going to degrade and die. Cancer is expensive to treat and the older you get the more likely you are to get cancer. I don't see any way mathematically that you could work out obesity being cheaper than that same population living longer and being more elderly. Due to western medicine obese people still live long lives and suffer many of the same end of life illnesses as healthier people. So you have increased healthcare costs all throughout life, and then still have to contend with things like diabetes, renal failure, dialysis, cancer, and assisted living care of some kind.

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PocketSizeSun 0 points ago +1 / -1

This is only true if 'fat people die younger' outside of the hospital.

End of life care is damned expense but it is absolutely not only expensive of old people.

Beside that keeping a 50 y.o. fatty alive after their n'th heart attack is just as expensive.

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peterstrzoked 40 points ago +40 / -0

This is the correct analogy

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OconusLurex 28 points ago +28 / -0

... And they don't even make anyone lose weight, there are just a raft of highly manipulated government stats that claim that they are doing so. Meanwhile, if you speak out publicly about the exploding hearts, your livelihood and freedom may be on the chopping block.

All while media and "influencers" are paid to spread BS about a "pandemic of the obese," and vilify everyone who's fat (including people who are because they're on corticosteroids or have just had a baby,) threatening their livelihoods, freedom of movement, and ability to take part in society. And each influencer pretends that all their assigned talking points are organic, and they're believed, even if they are all writing the exact same words. The new script is how the obese should be barred from health care and benefits, and may need to have their children taken away, because they pose a danger to them.

And if you lose weight through one of the other methods that actually work? - diet, exercise, etc. which have been taken-for-granted science until now, then you are a dangerous wrongthinker. And if you try anything like intermittent fasting or shifting your macronutrient intake away from what's prescribed on the food pyramid, you won't just get your accounts banned, but you'll also be placed on a terror watchlist.

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Slugbert 5 points ago +5 / -0

An even better analogy would be to replace amphetamines (which have been around a long time and are generally safe as long as you’re not stupid) with a new experimental drug the modifies your metabolism at the cellular level, jacks it through the roof, but can cause a host of bad reactions, including permanent disability and death. Government then mandates that ALL people skinny and fat need to take it (you know, to make sure the skinny people stay skinny cuz science).

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IMMORTAN_TRUMP 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm not fat but can I get the amphetamines anyways?

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Cacciali_Via 0 points ago +1 / -1

Right. I have alot of shit that needs doing and could use a little go go juice.

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Testosteroneape2000 111 points ago +112 / -1

Lol funny how fat people get weird when they are called fat. It’s like they think if they don’t admit their fatness to themselves then other people will not notice how fat they are.

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prayinpede 27 points ago +27 / -0

As a former fat kid, this is true.

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Ro-Bear_Berbil 8 points ago +8 / -0

Trying to ignore the elephant in the room

(pun intended)

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princessalala 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don’t know, I’m one of those fat people that know their fat and brow it as a descriptive term

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Plsdontfireme 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fat guy here - Seeing old pictures of how fat I was makes me pretty angry

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Jestheter 68 points ago +70 / -2

ITS GLANDULAR!

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basedvirginian 24 points ago +26 / -2

We should just embrace clown world and do what Stevie Griffin did: follow fatties around with a tuba

https://youtu.be/XZvWvfCSZ8M

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basedvirginian 3 points ago +4 / -1

Not all heroes wear capes 🥲

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Retardloserimsogay 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ripping on fatties is actually pretty funny.

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Im_shmmaaaaaat 5 points ago +5 / -0

I'm not fat, I'm husky

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Brokenmatrix2021 4 points ago +4 / -0

MUH BIG BONES !!

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DoneWithThisShit [S] 42 points ago +44 / -2

We should have food passports for fat people, make it illegal for fat people to be fed unless their app pre-approves the calories

Science science science!

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chelthing 11 points ago +12 / -1

Food stamps?

"Less for you"

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TrumpAndGodWin 5 points ago +6 / -1

"Now we need to go and look in families to find those people who may be sick fat and remove them and isolate them in a safe and dignified manner." Tedros, WHO maybe

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VapingTrumpsPiss 33 points ago +33 / -0

Honestly, as a fat ass myself, I'd probably be down for this. Lmao.

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_M_A_G_A_ 27 points ago +27 / -0

Get up and walk around the block before making another post, fatty!

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VapingTrumpsPiss 6 points ago +6 / -0

Thanks! I will definitely go walk my dog. Starting with my shitty sad boy diet first, soon I'll be ready to take down hordes of commies.

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Cacciali_Via 2 points ago +3 / -1

My block is six miles around and has no sidewalks. It's a bitch.

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catvideos3 2 points ago +2 / -0

Get to walking, fat ass.

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_M_A_G_A_ 1 point ago +1 / -0

Good.

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learntocode 9 points ago +9 / -0

We still love you. But train to kill a globalist. Alex Jones would approve.

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VapingTrumpsPiss 3 points ago +3 / -0

I do love Alex Jones. That's good motivation.

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Cavemantrump 29 points ago +33 / -4

Keto For All . Conavore diet for all.

Sugar/ HFCS. Aspartam. Must Be Eradicated.

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DCdeplorable 16 points ago +19 / -3

Ah so fats are healthy and sugar's actually bad? Cool, talk to you again in 10 years when they flip flop for the 3rd (4th?) time on that one.

Diet + Lifestyle = Health. The same way that no two people live the same, they can't eat the same and expect the same results. That said, I'm mostly giving you a hard time.

HFCS is unholy, and tastes like shit. Sugar is fine tho, in moderation, like everything. No one ever said fruits would make you fat, but a single fruit has what, like a teaspoon of sugar? Moderation.

Aspartame isn't even food, its a food-like monstrosity that kills you.

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prayinpede 10 points ago +10 / -0

Also the foods we eat have been selectively bred to produce more sugar at minimum or gm-ed into God only knows what. One thing i think about is tjat until reciently we didn't have access to fruit year round let alone the sugar in everything

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DCdeplorable 5 points ago +5 / -0

The selective breeding and death of biodiversity in specific crops, yeah I hear you there. This is why the Farm-Right must become the dominant political force in the world

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Cacciali_Via 0 points ago +1 / -1

I don't know what that is, but I bet it will kill tens of millions in Africa and India.

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Thrasymachus 9 points ago +12 / -3

False. They've never flip flopped. You're mistaking The Today Show pop-style segments on Red Wine Possible Benefits After All? meme headlines with nutritional science. There are times when being contrarian for its own sake can make anyone look a fool, and this is one of them.

HFCS is unholy, and tastes like shit. Sugar is fine tho, in moderation, like everything.

Wrong. Sugar is just a Fructose and a Glucose molecule stuck together, which the enzyme Sucralase splits almost immediately into its component parts. Fructose is a poison -- it's simply a chronic poison, not an acute one like ethanol, and thus the FDA refuses to regulate it (among other, political reasons), but make no mistake, fructose is a poison--whether you get it from HFCS additives or organic sustainable cane sugar. Fruit is also like sugar cane in the sense that natural fructose always comes packed around an assload of fiber, which just so happens to slow metabolism and mitigate the negative effects of the metabolic pathway of the fructose in the liver.

There were two competing schools of thought around cardiovascular disease decades ago: Fat vs. Sugar. There were two seminal studies. The "Fat" study (Seven Countries meta analysis) won out over the Sugar study (Pure, White and Deadly) in 1972. The former was fatally flawed; the latter, correct. All the Fat Free (with substitute sugar) diet food since then has been based on a lie.

Watch this if you have the time. If you don't have the time put the fucking cookies down and make time.

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learntocode 4 points ago +5 / -1

Jesus christ. First it was vaccines and now this. This site is fucking wrecking my equilibrium. I thought I wanted the truth, but it honestly does hurt to see how the truth has been intentionally ignored by the powerful for no good reason; simply because it made some interestrd party a little wealthier for a time.

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Thrasymachus 3 points ago +3 / -0

I tend to be pro-Nixon for a lot of reasons, but he got the ball rolling on some of the specific ag policies that brought us to this place, where HFCS is ubiquitous and worse, its copious export means that the state can't possibly admit their error in having sold the world poison for decades. He wanted food pricing to never be an issue in an election (ironic since inflation is currently putting it back on the issue docket for the first time in a half-century), which I understand.

So while vaccines are bringing about massive taxpayer-guaranteed no-liability profit to a comparatively small group of pharmaceutical companies (and their lobbyist lackies), HFCS policy was meant to support farmers at large, and the Diet Food fads were trying to make money promoting what they thought was healthy eating. So it's less of a conspiracy-level thing. The Seven-Countries study was broadly accepted as acceptable science with valid prescriptive outcomes.

Soft drink companies are still shit, though. They know damn well internally that they are the next cigarettes; their ads are all "feelings" based, totally aware that the actual product is garbage.

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PocketSizeSun 3 points ago +3 / -0

This!

Dr. Lustig talk FTW

Here is another one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceFyF9px20Y

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Chopblock 2 points ago +2 / -0

If you don't have the time put the fucking cookies down and make time.

Kek

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CantStumpTheTrump -1 points ago +2 / -3

holy shit how are you this fucking dumb

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Thrasymachus 6 points ago +6 / -0

You've sure convinced me! Your argument flawlessly presented; evidentiary support: overwhelming. Let me guess: you're fat.

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potato4dawin 2 points ago +3 / -1

calories from carbs and sugars don't make you feel full

calories from protein and fat does make you feel full

getting enough vitamins also makes you feel full

sugar, carbs, fat, or protein. either way 2000 calories is 2000 calories, but if it's from fat or protein and you get enough vitamins you'll feel a lot more full after those 2000 calories and give the eating a rest.

it's really just that simple and is easily provable. I have a 450 pound friend with a binge eating disorder. His parents cook almost exclusively mac and cheese, noodles with a creamy sauce, and other forms of pasta but take him to a smokehouse and he'll order the chicken and ribs combo and have leftovers because when he eats meat he actually feels full.

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Tread_not_on_me 0 points ago +1 / -1

It’s not a flip flop. Human beings evolved eating only meat and fat during winter for thousands of years before primitive grain selection even began. That’s why we can even enter ketosis, because we had to to live. So in summary, sugar bad fat good

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dylanrinker 2 points ago +2 / -0

Make them earn their sugar. Increase your deadlift PR by 10%? Cool, you get a slice of cheesecake. My social credit system would have everyone jacked.

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learntocode 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sprint times.

Vertical jump max.

Holding of breath under water.

Man, can you imagine? To fly on our airplanes, you must x, y and z. Qualification aparatus are available at terminals 1, 3, and 5.

LOL!

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Dunkin4COVAIDS -14 points ago +4 / -18

Yes, let's push bullshit anti-scientific fad diets. FML...

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chelthing 11 points ago +11 / -0

It's better than 6-11 servings of Monsanto's pesticide laden franken-grains

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Dunkin4COVAIDS -7 points ago +3 / -10

It's better than eating dog shit too, what's your point? Ketosis is NOT for everyone and can pose serious health risks to many people. Low carb diets have caused rhabdomyolysis (a very serious and sometimes fatal medical condition) in numerous people pursuing fitness and strength as a very good example. The claim that it is "healthy" for any one has zero scientific consensus. It has its place, but claiming everyone should eat a keto diet is a fucking retard who has zero applicable education or expertise to be making that claim. People like that get others hurt, and little more. There is no one size fits all diet, nor are carbohydrates inherently bad for you.

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prayinpede 7 points ago +7 / -0

Rhabdo is a taking too much protein problem not a high fat problem. In the book "fat of the land" an iclander chronicles living with Inuits in northern Canada and eating like them. A fat based diet. Like handfulls of raw whale fat. He lived to be 89. His name was Steffenson, i think.

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ScullyMully 0 points ago +1 / -1

Inuits are pretty fat...

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Dunkin4COVAIDS -2 points ago +2 / -4

Rhabdo risk is more likely linked to consuming too few carbohydrates which affects water retention and electrolyte imbalances. I would argue any "high" or "low" in any macro diets are not necessarily "healthy". Moderation and balance are key. Weight loss and weight gain are more a function of caloric intake than proportion of macro nutrients. A better argument for a healthy diet is to simply consume whole, unprocessed foods, balanced in quality protein, carbs and healthy fats within an appropriate caloric range for your body weight, activity level and fitness/composition goals. There is no justifiable reason to be extreme in your diet, except maybe if there is a justifiable medical reason to do so.

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castratedbob 2 points ago +3 / -1

Calories in vs calories out equation doesnt account for the physiology of appetite though. Ghrelin release from fluctuations in blood glucose triggering more food seeking behavior is what keeps people fat, and this is a direct result of too many carbohydrates in the diet, especially in those losing insulin sensitivity. Fat based diets bypass this issue completely, hence their effectiveness in weight loss, even without other lifestyle changes. Also reverses metabolic syndrome (pre diabetes type 2). Nothing special about macronutrient breakdowns other than the appetite supression really. Oh, and constant insulin release tanks free testosterone, eating lots of red meat jacks it up. So more test, less hunger, = more weightloss over time with less mental effort. For people with self discipline eating a balanced diet is preferred due to micronutrient diversity. Studied nutrition at uni for a couple years and it was the first of many red pills learning the extent of lies.

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Dunkin4COVAIDS 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm not discussing whether people with eating disorders or obesity should or shouldn't eat keto. I'm discussing "keto for all". The vast majority of people are not obese, suffer eating disorders or have diabetes.

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MagaAndCats 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Weight loss and weight gain are more a function of caloric intake than proportion of macro nutrients"

For someone metabolically healthy, these steps may not be necessary but keep in mind we're discussing overweight and obese people here where insulin resistance is commonplace. Insulin is a fat storing hormone and presents a huge hurdle to weight loss. Bringing down insulin levels through cutting carbs, intermittent fasting and moderate exercise should be the first steps. Only then does CICO play a roll.

I used to be pre-diabetic and now have a fasting blood glucose level of 80 and a normal A1C. Lost all my belly fat too (I was skinny fat). At 37, I felt like an old lady. I'm now 41 and feel better than I have in years. I kicked Covid's ass a month ago, but I feel certain that if I have not made the changes I did, I would have died. The "extreme" approach is what worked for me when all the common sense diet and fitness advice failed for me.

I'm not saying this approach of for everyone, but a common refrain that you hear from people who found success with keto is that they tried everything you're "supposed" to do to lose weight and this what finally worked and was sustainable.

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Dunkin4COVAIDS 1 point ago +1 / -0

No we are not discussing obese people. We're discussing "Keto for all".

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Dunkin4COVAIDS 1 point ago +1 / -0

Metabolic disorders are exceedingly rare and the vast majority of people completely misunderstand metabolism. Just being fat, "trying everything", and still struggling is not indicative of a metabolic disorder. It's more often than not a lack of discipline in the vast majority of people who are over weight. If you're one of those people who say "I tried everything and it didn't work"; I've got news for you. You didn't try hard enough. Diet and exercise ARE NOT EASY. They take time, effort, discipline and persistence to achieve a healthy lifestyle. Low carb diets like the Keto Diet are quick results fad diets that satisfy peoples' propensity for instant gratification, but they are NOT sustainable. Anything worth having is worth working hard for. I.e. a disciplined diet and exercise regime, not the instant gratification route.

Insulin is also not a "fat storing hormone", it is a glycogen storing peptide hormone that shuttles glycogen to where it is needed, e.g. to glycogen depleted muscle cells or to fat cells for later use. It does not in anyway, shape or form create fat cells. In fact, you were born with all your muscle and fat cells, and the number will never change.

Insulin shuttles glycogen to fat cells when humans consistently consume high glycemic carbohydrates while in a sedentary state. However, exercise and weight training put humans into an insulin sensitive state that queues insulin to shuttle glycogen to glycogen depleted muscle cells. This is why bodybuilders can consume massive quantities of carbohydrates and stay lean. The reason people get fat from eating high glycemic carbohydrates all day long is not because insulin is bad, but primarily the result of being lazy ass couch potatoes. However, even if you are an active person, nutrient timing plays a critical role in how your body stores glycogen. Eating high glycemic carbohydrates while sedentary still shuttles glycogen to fat cells. Eating low glycemic carbohydrates while sedentary lessens the effect.

Most people would benefit from a healthy balanced diet and exercise. Unfortunately, most people are looking for the easy quick results path. Unfortunately, most of them will end up being very disappointed in the end when they discover that it's not sustainable.

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chelthing 5 points ago +5 / -0

I agree that keto isn't for everyone and it's not meant to be indefinitely sustainable. I've tried it myself to see if it would help out my neuro condition and it did for the short time I tried it. Our body definitely needs carbs to function and extended keto diets can certainly strain the kidneys.

Keto is not anti-scientific-- it's manipulation of a natural safeguard of a body process. The BS MyPlate government diet is and OP mentioned some more poisons in the Western diet. I respect your opinion and wasn't looking to start anything; franken-grains are still really bad though!

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Chopblock 3 points ago +4 / -1

Fact checkers have verified that keto is indefinitely sustainable, safe and effective. You will not be able to comment or share this post

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chelthing 2 points ago +2 / -0

KEK

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krzyzowiec 1 point ago +2 / -1

Your body does not need carbs to function at all. Otherwise the inuits would never have been able to survive.

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Dunkin4COVAIDS -7 points ago +3 / -10

It is anti-scientific when it's pushed as a fad diet or alternate to what the science recommends it be used for, e.g. a medical diet to treat specific medical conditions. It's like how pseudo-science cherry picks legitimate scientific concepts, then convolutes them into a new theory and calls it legit because it references science. It's still anti-scientific.

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learntocode 6 points ago +6 / -0

"The science" on nutrition has been fucked from the hop by perverse incentives every which way in the research, analysis, distribution, and popular understanding.

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krzyzowiec 1 point ago +2 / -1

Yes it is for everyone. What do you think people ate for centuries before industrialization made our modern diets? Carbs in the form of grains are completely unnecessary and always have been, but you can’t say the same about fat and protein.

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Dunkin4COVAIDS 1 point ago +1 / -0

You realize that the Bible itself talks about people eating grains, right? A thousand plus years before industrialization? Humans have been consuming grains, rice, fruits, vegetables, roots, legumes, etc. for literally THOUSANDS of years.

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krzyzowiec 1 point ago +1 / -0

And many of them have not. Inuits, Indians in the US, African tribes in Africa. There are many examples of people consuming no grains whatsoever and being healthier than the modern man.

Especially now that we are consuming far more grains than we ever did and in a far more processed form than ever. Do you think people alive during biblical times were going to the supermarket and getting their white bread from the bread aisle? Did they have refrigeration back then?

Oh right, they didn't. So the bread they ate was fresh and unrefined, making it actually nutritional. Carbs are not evil, but they are absolutely unnecessary. Especially in modern times where spoilage isn't the problem that it was back then.

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Dunkin4COVAIDS 1 point ago +1 / -0

You do realize that carbohydrates come from numerous other sources than just grains, right? 🤦

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Thrasymachus 1 point ago +1 / -0

ifuckinglovesciencesoyjack.jpg

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king07828 27 points ago +27 / -0

My healthy lifestyle won't protect me from obesity unless you too have a healthy lifestyle ... right?

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DoneWithThisShit [S] 11 points ago +12 / -1

If you're a Twinkie super spreader I might catch your disease being around you...

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catvideos3 2 points ago +2 / -0

If you don’t have a low carb, paleo lifestyle, it puts me at risk!

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learntocode 6 points ago +6 / -0

Correct, obesity is a social disease spread by fatties normalizing their fats.

This is such a demented game to play, but I am laughing using the COVID logic in this way.

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7.62swinebuster 25 points ago +25 / -0

Bring back fat shaming

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oldmanliverspots 5 points ago +5 / -0

Tell that to Old Navy, who proudly proclaim, "NO MORE BODSHAMING"

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The_Bloofy_Bullshark 5 points ago +5 / -0

Old Navy is still around?

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oldmanliverspots 4 points ago +4 / -0

yes and they also have a "unisex" line of clothing, and fat clothes are intermixed with regular clothes, and the majority of the models are fat

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The_Bloofy_Bullshark 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah I completely forgot about them. I remember back in the early 2000s people would go there for those shirts with American Flags on them and for sandals. And that was basically it.

No idea they still existed.

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Anonymous_leopard 14 points ago +14 / -0

Dang, I'm sorry you have an obese, ignorant stepdad. That sounds horrible :(

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Shill_Slayer9000 14 points ago +14 / -0

Classic.

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SchoolBoyTim 13 points ago +13 / -0

I once had an insanely obese motherfucker call me a drug addict because I needed to fill my prescription a few days early. I was astonished. I simply looked at him and asked him if he was aware he was morbidly obese and had no place to say anything about anything to anyone, especially about addiction, because we all know that fucker was addicted to anything deep fried.

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learntocode 5 points ago +5 / -0

He might have seen what he hates most in him himself in you. It is a common thing people do.

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SchoolBoyTim 6 points ago +6 / -0

yeah, he was probably projecting, but if you weigh over 500 pounds, you really need to just shut the fuck up when it comes to telling other people who they are or what they should do. Like these landwhales that are trying to force everyone to get vaccinated, how about you get rid of your fat twin first before you tell people what they need to do about their health.

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TaxDollarsHardAtWork 11 points ago +11 / -0

People never feel tyranny until they feel it personally.

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ShadowyMrBlank 9 points ago +9 / -0

"I'm not fat, I'm big boned!"

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DEEPSTATE 7 points ago +7 / -0

That's hilarious, I've been waiting for a fat person to lecture me so I could say something like that to them just to watch their reaction

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redgreenyellowblu 6 points ago +6 / -0

Fat is Fit! Don't believe the lies of the industrial wellness complex!

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chelthing 6 points ago +6 / -0

DON'T BLAME ME AND MY PELICAN-LIKE GULLET!

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Slugbert 5 points ago +5 / -0

Your terms are acceptable. Heart disease kills 600,000 Americans per year - much, much more than the coof, so I think it should have higher priority.

It’s a health pandemic and the goal is to save as many lives as possible, right?

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findthewarmspot 4 points ago +4 / -0

Every pro vax fucker would turn in Anne Frank!

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OXIE 4 points ago +4 / -0

Well that is the whole point of the passport. Fat people will only be allowed to buy healthy foods and be blocked from buying anything else. How can you disagree with this because all your decisions are the right ones so you will never get blocked from buying anything with your passport card.

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Lonnie62 4 points ago +4 / -0

The way fast food taste now days it’s a wonder we’re all not skinny!!!

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zentoco 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ayup, food tastes worse, sizes much smaller, prices gaugingly (new word) high...

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Takkune 1 point ago +1 / -0

Mind, because so many people just eat fast food all the time, they don't know how to cook a decent healthy meal anyway. Not that it's hard to learn but those same people are also often lazy.

For anyone who isn't lazy, just uninformed/ unsure where to start, and wants some cooking basics that I use personally, check out Alton Brown's Good Eats (I think. It's been a few years since I've watched but he definitely has a series going over making some basic/standard dishes delicious)

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MAGAsJustBegun 4 points ago +4 / -0

Haha I love it. Obesity is literally the #1 killer in USA aside from accidents and old age.

It's 100% preventable, and comes down to OBVIOUS choices.

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SpinShaitan 4 points ago +4 / -0

Hahahah. That's great.

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ChickAndShiteHen 4 points ago +4 / -0

My 2 cents...Obese people put more weight on vehicle tires and wear and tear on furniture in theaters, airplanes, restaurants, etc. BUT! NONE of that compares the number of 1st responders and nurses who end up injured and/or disabled from caring for immobile patients in hospital beds. When an entire team of EMTs or fire fighters have to arrive to get them onto a stretcher. The majority of people who die from the virus are THE OBESE.

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Awe-some-1 3 points ago +3 / -0

So I got called out at work today, one of the supervisors for another department was introducing me to her new team member, when she spots my badge and says you need to go upstairs and get your (non-vax marker) I was a bit surprised, but figured she must have the list of all that need their weekly tests. But she stated this in front of the new team member. To which I said what, oh marker! I'm requesting mine be in the shape of a Jewish star, she was like what?? I was like yes, I want my marker to be in the shape of a Jewish star to it will be easier when you put us in camps- for our safety of course! She ran away from me!

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krzyzowiec 1 point ago +1 / -0

Holy shit that’s funny.

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Panopticon 3 points ago +3 / -0

People who die from covid are often fat

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plaaaa 3 points ago +3 / -0

Mine blew a fuse when I said (warning, I don't actually believe either thing, well not entirely anyway but there is some personal responsibility still) Gays deserve AIDS & all abortions are whores.

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WildRiot 1 point ago +1 / -0

I mean I can stand behind that

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LibertyPrimeWasRight 3 points ago +3 / -0

It’s particularly funny to me because mandatory diets are far more favored by current medical understanding than mandatory experimental, ineffective vaccines with a disturbingly high likelihood of serious side effects, for a non-serious illness. But they’re rightly viewed as tyranny, while the clot shot is hailed as common sense and compassion!

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Athena86 2 points ago +2 / -0

Eat less, move more. Not rocket science.

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4evarbulk 2 points ago +2 / -0

Based. The overwhelming majority of patients my wife deals with are suffering from lifestyle choices. Had one today, fully jabbed for a few months, cov+, will surely be a "hospitalized with covid" case even though that's not why she was there. She at least laughed about it and said it's a joke at this point.

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Hendrixdan57 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hires Ben Stiller from Fat camp

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nomoreprinkles 2 points ago +2 / -0

And they don't get to work or go to bars or restaurants until they comply.

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Homemade-Soap 2 points ago +2 / -0

Mandatory blood sugar and BMI passports

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TrumpChampBelt 2 points ago +2 / -0

And take away their fucking mart carts at Walmart, make them walk. It's for their own good right?

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67Vert 2 points ago +2 / -0

78% of people who have been hospitalized, needed a ventilator or died from Covid-19 have been overweight or obese,

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crypticusername 2 points ago +2 / -0

In his defense, obesity isn't contagious.

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WildRiot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Bullshittery. Obesity is marketed to us which is a contagion of the psyche

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DoneWithThisShit [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

Hes actually a super cool generous person, has an "ice cream fridge" that is stocked 24/7, he's a haagen daas super spreader

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npc_NULL 2 points ago +2 / -0

mandated wired jaw for fatties.

you'd instantly see the light bulb go on

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Annpi 2 points ago +2 / -0

Being a glutton and sloth are sins....

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philnmdg 2 points ago +2 / -0

Good for the goose...

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catvideos3 2 points ago +2 / -0

The CDC says 2.8 Million people does EACH YEAR of obesity.

Mandatory day camps NOW!!!

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Updoot 2 points ago +2 / -0

His wife's son, spitting hot fire.

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JesusisLord 2 points ago +2 / -0

Most of the ICU population before the scamdemic were the obese.

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DeplorableLA 2 points ago +2 / -0

Damn, son. I thought my family was direct (and we are). Exactly what we need more of in this cancel culture/over-regulated speech era we have now. Let’s talk about inconsistencies and get to better solutions.

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GhostOfMyFormerSelf 2 points ago +2 / -0

B-but muh cheeseburger!

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PrettyBigGuy 2 points ago +2 / -0

The funniest thing you can fix everyone who is fat. Fat people, come here!

  • Anabolic steroids. They are very, very effective in reducing your fat percentage.
  • HGH. Human growth hormone kills fat locally.
  • Physical activity. Does not happen by itself. But if you take caffeine, ephedrine, steroids - wow, you just want to do all the workouts in the world! I actually stop after 3 hours.

That is all the secret. Good hormones and reasonable physical activity (4 hours per day). In 6 months you are a different person.