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zathras11 34 points ago +46 / -12

There is no method to remove Biden and reinstall Trump. The founding fathers didn't anticipate election fraud on the scale we just saw. The left denies their crime even when proof is show right to their faces, so don't expect much to change and do expect them to try and steal 2022 and 2024, as they did 2020 and likely stole the CA recall (shady stuff that!). After denying it as long as they could the 'Biden military' (formerly U.S. Military) finally had to admit what really happened. I saw an article over at Right Scoop about that, "Gen McKenzie to make BIG announcement on Afghan drone strike that didn’t kill a single ISIS-K fighter", so give that a look. Those poor kids, and the adults too. The father was an aid worker moving water when the strike hit them. Perhaps one day the USA will have free and fair elections again, just not anytime soon.

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yuge_covfefe 60 points ago +60 / -0

I mostly agree but take issue with:

The founding fathers didn't anticipate election fraud on the scale we just saw.

They absolutely did, see Ben Franklin's final speech at the Constitutional Convention:

... and I believe farther that this is likely to be well administered for a Course of Years, and can only end in Despotism as other Forms have done before it, when the People shall become so corrupted as to need Despotic Government, being incapable of any other. [1]

No, they knew, and warned us repeatedly that the only true safeguard of our liberties was constant and eternal vigilance. They warned us in the Federalist Papers that neither the Constitution nor a well constructed Government could protect us. That the only thing keeping us from the rule of tyrants, whether many or few, is ourselves, and that is why we must stay informed and engaged, and not take what politicians tell us at face value.

We ignored those warnings. And not just for a cycle or two. For generations we ignored them, complacent in our belief in our own infallibility. And now we are paying for our hubris.

We have fulfilled Ben's prophecy. What remains to be seen, and what he didn't tell us, is whether we can still rein in a despotic government, or whether we are well and truly lost.

[1] https://archive.is/KfOgn

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redcon-1 43 points ago +43 / -0

whether we can still rein in a despotic government, or whether we are well and truly lost.>

“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil” Thomas Jefferson

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yuge_covfefe 7 points ago +7 / -0

Thanks, I had forgotten that one. Jefferson has always been one of my favorites.

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borscht-nazi 2 points ago +2 / -0

>Thomas Jefferson
Charles-Louis de Secondat, Baron de La Brède et de Montesquieu
https://wisc.pb.unizin.org/adef20182019/chapter/4-rousseau/

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redcon-1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Love it. Send any others my way and I shall digest at my earliest convenience. Thanks in advance!

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LiteraIIyHitIer 5 points ago +5 / -0

the only true safeguard of our liberties was constant and eternal vigilance.

It's annoying that this got bastardized to the point where a lot of people think it just means having a strong military and lost all of the "you gotta keep an eye on these fuckers you elect".

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BlackFolk 34 points ago +34 / -0

If Trump gets back in we need to start tearing everything of there’s down and instilling the fear and wrath of God in its place.

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TheEvacuator 6 points ago +6 / -0

Hell yeah, let's go.

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Gooseontheloose 6 points ago +6 / -0

Deus vult

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Saltyminer11 3 points ago +3 / -0

Ev ry thing

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Angry 0 points ago +1 / -1

There won't be anything left.

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WeaponizedSmirk 9 points ago +10 / -1

Well, there is one way to remove that fraud and his administration. Just don't know if the military would act if the election was conclusively proven to be stolen.

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Goozmania 24 points ago +24 / -0

They already own the military. The military is not on our side.

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Octomonkey 3 points ago +3 / -0

Correct. Democrats are masters at projecting. Everything they accused Trump of doing, it has eventually been revealed they were actually the ones doing it, including a coup.

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Carry_Your_Name 7 points ago +7 / -0

Yeah, that's the message. They're sending us a message. They made it loud and clear that there's not a single institution you can rely on, they've taken over the last guardian that is the military. There're precedents of military coup in other countries, and you know, there're these Q posts claiming that there're a lot of patriots in the US military planning to do the same, they just wait for Trump to give the signal. They take those as serious threats, so they did what they did to make sure this would never happen here.

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TuckersLegalCouncil 0 points ago +1 / -1

While true, isn't that mostly the generals and such? What about our thousands and thousands of infantry, pilots, etc?

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TheEvacuator 4 points ago +4 / -0

Its 50/50

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Recken 1 point ago +1 / -0

50/50 on face value, but how many of our 50 will just follow orders?

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Sylvester1212 1 point ago +2 / -1

They would act , just not on our side.

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BloodDe 6 points ago +6 / -0

I would think with absolute proof it could possibly open up defamation law suits against social media. Possibly even something there since they're working with the government.

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BillsmafiaGG 5 points ago +5 / -0

There are indeed at least two methods to remove any elected official in the US.

The first and most impossible is by overwhelming public acclaim; humans are perfectly capable of inventing a brand new process to remove a corrupt elected official, if they want to. It would not have legal basis per se, but people would simply reason backwards that the removal was done credibly and of necessity. This is not possible at the moment because party brainwashing is too strong.

The second has legal precedent. If direct evidence of each individual fraudulent vote is demonstrated in court, the elected official will be simply thrown out and replaced.

The term “proven fraud” is not usually used with the specificity required for this point. Even if an audit reveals batches of provably fraudulent votes, it does not prove fraud for each individual vote. It may sound ridiculous, but this is exactly what I find looking at actual court cases of election fraud. I believe the theory is that each vote overturned would create another injured party; therefore, when large numbers of votes are involved, the elected official is almost never removed - only the commission of the fraud itself is punished.

To sum up:

  1. Developing evidence of fraud for each individual vote in the 2020 election is close to impossible because the fraud is too anonymized. If the evidence were actually developed, a court would indeed be able to overturn the result. None of the current audit efforts are attempting to do this, as far as I can tell. They are only attempting to build public acclaim by showing provably fraudulent batches of votes. This may move poll numbers, it may help push election integrity, and may even result in ceremonial “decertifications” But this will result in neither universal acclaim nor a court-sanctioned removal of elected officials.

  2. Charges might result against parties involved in voter fraud. However, even that is unlikely in most cases because, under the cover of the scary pandemic & mail-in ballots, each and every link in the chain is dripping with the grease of plausible deniability. They could all be honest mistakes, right?

So I believe you are incorrect that there are no methods to remove Biden, but agree that it can’t really happen. Also you make some other good points, thanks;)

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Clandestiny 2 points ago +2 / -0

Quality read, thanks.