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MrEvangelon1 168 points ago +176 / -8

Stating this again:

There are ZERO variants. The "vaxxed" are getting infected because the "vaccines" are designed against one protein and not the entire protein group.

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makaza 115 points ago +116 / -1

Exactly, the MRNA vaccine is not the appropriate vaccine for Covid.

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AlphaOmaga 95 points ago +96 / -1

As the inventor had documented way before all this.

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makaza 54 points ago +55 / -1

And was promptly banned from social media for pointing out

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783hz 15 points ago +15 / -0

He's not banned. I follow him on Twitter. He's the only reason I have Twitter.

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BeardedNinjaPede 3 points ago +3 / -0

Which is suspicious. Why hasn't he been banned yet?

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ItCameTrue 10 points ago +10 / -0

Because his credentials are so impeccable and his contacts in the industry so numerous he’s actually managed to get himself reinstated multiple times after attempted censorship.

He’s been saving lives with his information. Dude is a hero.

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CucksForTheDonald 53 points ago +53 / -0

Nothing is the right vaccine type for a coronavirus. If we didn't have it in 2019, then we do not have it now. And as Geert Vanden Bossche, Luc Montagnier and other virologists have pointed out, it is the height of insanity to vaccinate in the middle of a pandemic – you would only do that if you want a worse outcome.

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makaza 20 points ago +20 / -0

Considering there is no working SARS vaccine , how did they expect to make this one up in a month , the vaccine was ready in April 2020... They just had to do trials... What a sham

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DJTrump 13 points ago +13 / -0

They had the vaccines already done in 2018/2019, the masked midget, in his leaked emails, was seen telling people to start ramping up production of it long before "covid" was even thing. It's about power and control, but also depopulation.

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basedvirginian 8 points ago +8 / -0

Because the cabal is using this scamdemic as a way to consolidate even more power and control

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HyperCarbs 32 points ago +33 / -1

Just use the common cold vax. Oh wait...

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2024isNOW 5 points ago +5 / -0

There is no appropriate vaccine for a rapidly mutating respiratory disease.

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ItCameTrue 2 points ago +2 / -0

Natural immunity N A T U R A L

I M M U N I T Y

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Brucesky420 -3 points ago +2 / -5

MRNA isn't the only vaccine type. Aren't two of them the old style?

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PresJackson 20 points ago +20 / -0

no. Two are RNA, one is DNA, and one is a recombinant protien. No vax uses the traditional methods of using the actual virus either live or dead.

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cpyder 18 points ago +18 / -0

Not yet... The only protein sublet (traditional) vax is the Novavax, and is not yet available in the US

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DJTrump 8 points ago +8 / -0

It's not available in western countries. Only western countries are taking the bullshit "vaxx" because the cabal needs to wipe out traditional freedom-lovong western societies.

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basedvirginian 4 points ago +4 / -0

Makes ya think 🧐

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apathy_meh 6 points ago +6 / -0

https://lozierinstitute.org/update-covid-19-vaccine-candidates-and-abortion-derived-cell-lines/

This breaks down COVID vax by type too. There are 8 whole virus vaccines being worked on. Half are from China, so four a reasonable person might trust. None are on the market yet.

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cpyder 6 points ago +6 / -0

Not yet... The only protein sublet (traditional) vax is the Novavax, and is not yet available in the US.

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SteelMongoose 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'm keeping my eye on that one. I'd consider that one without government pressure, if it's as good as the trials say.

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Soonerborn 3 points ago +3 / -0

Valneva also has one close to market

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ArthurPendragon 3 points ago +3 / -0

Close, the J&J and AstraZeneca vaccines still use new technology (adenovirus vector tech) that had never been brought to mass market before (used in an experimental ebola vaccine, that's it). As others point out, there are traditional (inactivated or attenuated virus) vaccines in other countries but none approved in the USA.

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RegeneronQubes 1 point ago +1 / -0

The Chinese one is supposedly old style. I suspect it's really just a placebo to avoid using the Western ones.

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kernel 1 point ago +2 / -1

China and Russia and India use the old style, sadly, it's not much better

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GrayManNumber333 31 points ago +33 / -2

That’s highly unlikely.

  1. They do have tests to determine if it’s COVID or a variant, basically they culture and isolate it. Canada might be dumb fucks but other countries have been doing this some.

  2. It would be amazing for SARS to NOT mutate and make variants. It’s an RNA virus, mutating is what it does. That’s why flu shots don’t work, it’s mutated by the time anyone gets the shot or mutates when it encounters the shot.

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MrEvangelon1 9 points ago +10 / -1

From the link: "All mRNA vaccines target the same SARS-CoV-2 antigen and incorporate mRNA encoding the full-length, transmembrane anchored S protein. The genetic sequence is slightly altered to stabilize the prefusion conformation of the glycoprotein using two proline (2P) substitutions (K986P and V987P mutations)."

There are more proteins than the Spike protein.

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bigchubby 11 points ago +11 / -0

Cytokine storms here we come!

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Inquisitor_Corvus 4 points ago +4 / -0

Being on the clots, said by all the sludgebloods.

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think_for_yourselves 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think there are only 2 surface proteins though. The variants of interest that have spread so much have mutations in the spike protein. That's why the vax is less effective towards them.

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MrEvangelon1 1 point ago +1 / -0

That is covered in the link.

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EdmondDaunts 8 points ago +8 / -0

A set of isolates exist, one is from Italy. But some used Vero 6 cell lines which don't exactly culture what goes in. The issue is not the isolate it's the loop.

You would take that isolate as a reference and use it to infect people or animals. You also would be taking samples from people determined to be uniquely sick from Covid and use this to build local characterisation profiles. This isn't being done.

So you have much larger uncertainty than is stated. Plus you could have the perfect isolate but your test process will never pick this up due to process errors. You have to remember that if molecular measurement is the only way they are saying you have Covid.

So don't focus on no isolate. The issue is how has the process been verified and maintained at a certainty level. If in reality you are seeing 90% false positives it doesn't matter if you have isolate.

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Infuriator 5 points ago +5 / -0

The rhinovirus is the most common viral infectious agent in humans and is the predominant cause of the common cold. Rhinovirus infection proliferates in temperatures of 33–35 °C, the temperatures found in the nose. Rhinoviruses belong to the genus Enterovirus in the family Picornaviridae.

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Joe_Snow 2 points ago +3 / -1

you can buy it online now, brolio.

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BeijingJoeHastoGo 3 points ago +3 / -0

Show me a peer-reviewed article from a medical or scientific journal claiming to have cultured and isolated a SARS-CoV-2 "variant." I'll wait.

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GrayManNumber333 1 point ago +2 / -1

Show me that for any common cold or flu virus. Lots of science doesn’t get published, there are the meta studies talking about the variants, but that wouldn’t fit your question.

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Regardless 19 points ago +19 / -0

I thought they were designed to boost my 5G signal?

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MrEvangelon1 10 points ago +11 / -1

Nope, that's the tin foil hat.

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Regardless 14 points ago +14 / -0

That’s to stop the government from reading my thoughts.

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MrEvangelon1 6 points ago +6 / -0

😂

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bubadmt 1 point ago +1 / -0

You kid, but go check out r/gangstalking on Reddit to see some seriously mentally Ill democrats..

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AlphaOmaga 7 points ago +7 / -0

The magnet shit too.

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NavySTG 4 points ago +4 / -0

And unlimited power to light up light bulbs.

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Kek_Johnson 4 points ago +4 / -0

We must use two layers of foil. It's just common sense.

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MrEvangelon1 2 points ago +2 / -0

😂

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ThurstonHowell3rd 6 points ago +6 / -0

"Where mah free iPho???"

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MobileDev4Trump 4 points ago +4 / -0

That's just shit put out by the deep state to discredit legit conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones.

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BaronFalcon 3 points ago +3 / -0

reception, you're just receiving.

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NavySTG 1 point ago +2 / -1

Remember the Qtard videos of people supposedly standing around like zombies? Those were funny.

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ceremony_ 6 points ago +6 / -0

Let me fix this for you.

"Variants" are being created because the "vaccines" are designed against one protein and not the entire organism.

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MrEvangelon1 1 point ago +1 / -0

If that is how you comprehend it, then good.

As long as you comprehend that the other proteins still in place with spike protein defeated.

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ikuyas 3 points ago +3 / -0

What does that mean?

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snowypepe 10 points ago +10 / -0

How I understand it, the virus is made up of many proteins, but the spike protein is the only one the shots are supposed to target. You’re body is flooded with the spike protein, and therefore you create antibodies against it, but you have no protection against the ~20 other proteins (number could be wrong). Again I’m no virologist but that’s the general theory I believe.

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GrayManNumber333 5 points ago +5 / -0

Kinda. The spike protein is the outermost protein so it’s the one antibodies see first. When the virus is attacked and broken up other parts are visible from my understanding.

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Paxelmania 2 points ago +2 / -0

Other parts might become visible once the outermost spikes get axed but does that mean the body will recognize and attack them?

Basiclaly if the spikes get attacked then can the remaining proteins duplicate, or does that make it impotent to impregnate my cells?

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GrayManNumber333 2 points ago +2 / -0

That’s much more accurate.

Spike proteins are the ones used to attach to the cell. However recognizing all parts of the virus in more parts of the body gives the best response. Train troops to recognize camo pattern and rifles of enemy or train all of military to recognize all parts of invading force.

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Forgototherpassword 2 points ago +2 / -0

Doesn't do you much good if they're wearing your camo like the Taliban now.

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GrayManNumber333 6 points ago +6 / -0

ADE.

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MrEvangelon1 1 point ago +1 / -0

The link below explains that ALL the mRNA "vaccines" are designed to "train" anti-bodies to attack the entire S protein group.

The problem, aka "variant", occurs when the inner protein groups are free to roam and replicate.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8008785/

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Paxelmania 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wouldn't the immune system eventually attack those too?

Like yeah the vac doesn't prep you against recognizing them so you'd need to develop natural immunity to inner proteins, so there should be emphasis on building up immune system via whatever helps with that (zinc and vitamins?) to complement a "prepare to shell the spikes" vacc

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MrEvangelon1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, a healthy immune system would attack the inner virus protein groups. However, look at the people being hospitalized for coof who have the jab. They are not healthy and/or they are older, 50+.

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Vox_Dobad 2 points ago +2 / -0

A caller into Clay and Buck the other day explained it like this:

Imagine the virus as a hand. The vaccine attacks one fingernail, whereas natural immunity defends against the entire hand.

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GrayManNumber333 0 points ago +1 / -1

That’s overly simplistic. Not a good gedunken experiment

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MrEvangelon1 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes

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ikuyas 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think your first part sentence is wrong, but I have known your 2nd sentence.

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MrEvangelon1 2 points ago +3 / -1

"All mRNA vaccines target the same SARS-CoV-2 antigen and incorporate mRNA encoding the full-length, transmembrane anchored S protein. The genetic sequence is slightly altered to stabilize the prefusion conformation of the glycoprotein using two proline (2P) substitutions (K986P and V987P mutations)."

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ikuyas 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah. Do you think layman understands what you wrote there?

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MrEvangelon1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Dictionaries exist.

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MrCripple 69 points ago +69 / -0

I think this is misleading. This isn't the official statement of the FDA. I'm pretty sure they did not say that they are leaky and causing the new variants in this slide. It is. A public forum for doctors to share their research with the FDA committee.

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NZ_Pede 51 points ago +51 / -0

Yep! All these slides from what I understand came from doctors showing that shit is not good with the shots. FDA could easily ignore all of these testimonies and carry on like usual. At least it's public record now of doctors speaking out about it.

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demscantstealit 9 points ago +9 / -0

Should post the link to the Nature article saying that the vaccines creates variants

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FreedomFrogs 6 points ago +6 / -0

Not just doctors, anyone from the public can speak at these sessions.

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MAGA1775 11 points ago +11 / -0

Yeah, this is a presentation by a doctor.....not from the FDA

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mkdir-not-war 7 points ago +7 / -0

This is true. You and I know it's true. But tbh, the people saying it "makes us look bad" when we claim things like this are misguided. The ones who want the country in flames will misconstrue info in that way all the time. It's their modus operandi. And it works! Because people don't want to watch or contextualize 8 hours of video, they're happy with the 10 second clip that says FDA on it saying "actually clotshot bad."

If lying about something like this gets even a handful of people to look at the information being presented here who wouldn't have known about it otherwise, I say claim it's the FDA. Even if it was the FDA speaking, snopes would still claim it's fake.

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FluhanWu 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's tough to disagree with your logic.

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narvster 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, this post is 100% fake news.

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bigchubby 1 point ago +3 / -2

Must be fake then

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FluhanWu 56 points ago +58 / -2

Fake news.

The message is not from "the fda"

It's from Public Comments portion of FDA Advisory Panel review. The clips people keep posting on here are NOT the FDA coming clean about anything. The FDA is able to ignore the advisory panel and certainly these public comments as well. Again, these are PUBLIC COMMENTS. Glad we are getting some messages spread but there's a way to share this without being so misleading. The FDA has yet to make a final decision. Read the words ADVISORY PANEL again. You are making a big mistake.

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kmillz 14 points ago +14 / -0

Thank you for pointing this out. Normies will just cry fake news and disregard the substance.

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Trumpchoochoo 11 points ago +11 / -0

Glad this sub is vetting this stuff. The info is not bad but we gotta have good ammo for the normies.

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MobileDev4Trump 5 points ago +5 / -0

normies won't believe until see the effects themselves just like Thalidomide.

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MrEvangelon1 4 points ago +4 / -0

Increased miscarriages.

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think_for_yourselves 3 points ago +3 / -0

Mostly true unfortunately. I do think they trust the FDA/CDC/WHO as gospel though (majority of normies, not the super crazies on reddit), so if they were forced to come and say some bad stuff about the vax I do think they'd believe it.

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AlphaOmaga 4 points ago +4 / -0

Noticed this as well with the last clip I saw. It’s like a medical version of a school board meeting. The panel will sot there and zone out and do what they wanted to do in the for at place.

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FreedomFrogs 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thank you. There have been several of these post attributing these statements to the FDA. Anyone who watches more than 2 minutes of the video knows it’s public comments. I can’t help but wonder WHY OPs are misrepresenting this.

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NeverTwitterer 2 points ago +2 / -0

If the government admitted something like this, the country collapses

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makaza 38 points ago +38 / -0

Robert Malone said this would happen almost a year ago now .

He invented the MRNA vaccine.

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FreedomFrogs 10 points ago +10 / -0

Folks, how many times is this going to get posted and incorrectly attributed to the FDA?

This is not the FDA, it is the public presenting to an FDA panel. Many of the speakers are doctors and I’m not passing judgement on the validity of the data they are presenting. However, these posts (of which there have been multiple), are extremely misleading when they attribute these presentations to the FDA.

This is why the left laughs at us and tears apart our arguments with fact checkers. The data is good enough to stand on its own, there is no need to falsely claim the FDA said it.

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Crappydatum 3 points ago +3 / -0

Weren't they an FDA "advisory" panel? Let's face it, the FDA isn't populated by scientists but rather it's full of bunglecrat paper pushers and their "TPS" forms

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FreedomFrogs 1 point ago +1 / -0

No, this was public comments for the advisory panel.

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davidmroth 8 points ago +8 / -0

To be fair, this wasn't the FDA that presented this. This slide was presented during the FDA's public comments section. I believe this slide was presented by Dr. Rajesh Gupta with Biologics Quality and Regulatory Consultants, LLC. He is not affiliated with the FDA. Great presentation however. I recommend everyone the entire public comments section.

Here is a breakdown of the notable presentations against the vaccine and booster (most presentations).

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PewPew_ThaDuK 7 points ago +8 / -1

I'm of the view, the variants are the vaccine

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BaronFalcon 5 points ago +6 / -1

The "variants" are misdirection and fraud. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pENijjYcwBw&t=10s

If you had SARS back in the day, your antibodies make you immune to covid. If you have any covid antibodies, you are immune to the variants. Anyone telling you otherwise is lying.

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AlphaOmaga 5 points ago +5 / -0

Holy shit. No way. Exactly like the inventor of the technology said it would?! Exactly like epidemiology 101 outlines?! Woweee!

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ramennov 4 points ago +4 / -0

Spike mutations, eh? Seems to confirm that the vaccines are useless against variants.

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ShampocalypseWOW 4 points ago +4 / -0

That's not the FDA saying that, it's actual doctors.

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MrEvangelon1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Given the FDA record of idiocy, I'd rather trust doctors.

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LessSwampMoreMAGA 4 points ago +4 / -0

I believe this was one of the main criticisms of the vaccine when it was first announced. Mutations in cold/coronavirus viruses happen too quickly to vaccinate against.

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bangbus 6 points ago +6 / -0

I thought they had never been able to make a coronavirus vaccine.

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MobileDev4Trump 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yep but they found a way to monetize one

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NoMoreMao 4 points ago +4 / -0

The vax is leaky. No doubt.

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bigchubby 4 points ago +4 / -0

This has been said by doctors who have been muzzled for months now. Guess what else they have been saying?

That the jabs are more deadly than us being reported.

Just wait until these Jab patients start dropping.

They will still try and blame the pure bloods.

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NotProgCensored 2 points ago +2 / -0

Just wait until these Jab patients start dropping.

After all the stillborn babies.

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fat50 3 points ago +3 / -0

How long before they figure out our governments PURPOSELY created and released the virus?

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Brobold 3 points ago +3 / -0

Nice to see we're back to where we were pre-2020.

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Tenspot20 3 points ago +3 / -0

"Escape Mutants with Swollen Testicles?"

Try Ivermectin

(this stuff writes itself)

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GrumpyGrumpus 3 points ago +3 / -0

The presentation is from public comment to the FDA hearing.

This is not a presentation FROM the FDA. This is a presentation TO the FDA.

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SevenThunders 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's more damning than this. A recent presentation by Steve Kirsch to the FDA demonstrates that at a minimum the vaccines have a 2:1 kill ratio. They kill twice as many people that they save. Furthermore the vaccines are giving young men myocarditis at a rate of 1 in every 317 doses and the 3rd dose will make it 1 out of 25.

The FDA refused to approve the booster shot after his presentation. Here is a link to the slide deck. https://patriots.win/p/13zMipMahx/solid-proof-presented-to-the-fda/c/

There is also a thread with this topic here: https://patriots.win/p/13zMipMahx/solid-proof-presented-to-the-fda/c/

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MrEvangelon1 1 point ago +1 / -0

So...at this point we can tell who has the placebo (saline solution).

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SevenThunders 2 points ago +2 / -0

Lol maybe so. If you are in government or media and are not sick after getting the shot, then you probably got the placebo.

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colers 3 points ago +3 / -0

No shit, that is the thing about a non neutralizing vaccine; all it does is create an evolutionary pressure

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MAGA_____bitches 2 points ago +2 / -0

FDA- " My bad"

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flybyninja 2 points ago +2 / -0

That wasn’t the FDA, it was public comment.

But yes ADE is definitely an issue and it’s good to see they’re getting pushback.

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Crappydatum 2 points ago +2 / -0

I called this Months ago on a different site. Went back there and they've locked the entire thread down and hidden it from view. Because evil sons of butches

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BoughtByBloomberg2 2 points ago +2 / -0

Who knew that subjecting a virus to survival pressures would trigger mutations that escape the pressures?!

It's almost like all these doctors and scientists forgot to ask a microbiologist what DECADES of antibiotics have done to bacteria!

Corona would have morphed into a harmless variant in under a year, no worse than the flu. But it's twice as deadly as the flu so we shut everything down instead....

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Seatacjoe 2 points ago +2 / -0

Every virologist worth their salt was saying this months ago....literally from the beginning, begging to stop mass vax in a high pressure environment

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TrancePhreak 2 points ago +2 / -0

Leaky vaccines lead to mutant variants, happened elsewhere for precedent.

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ApesInControl 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah but they said it with fancy words

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Mrs.Frostbite 2 points ago +2 / -0

So the first two doses don’t create variants but the third does?!!!

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MrEvangelon1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Maybe the "booster" is the shots that are about to expire.

Not 100% sure.

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VinCarver 2 points ago +2 / -0

The vax side effects ARE the variants

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Grond999 2 points ago +2 / -0

The vax is probably causing variants.

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ChynahIzAzzhole 2 points ago +2 / -0

US.. the JAB is the variant... them.. Your crazy. You're a natzi, your ignorant, your killing me by not getting jabbed, you eat horse paste, your dumb, just take the jab, Now, Vax is creating variants... US(SOON), YOU'RE UNDER ARREST FOR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

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Keith 2 points ago +2 / -0

WE ARE THE NEWS

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PepeAmericusMaximus 2 points ago +2 / -0

ITS NOT A VACCINE

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Kerra_Holt 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well, well, well, if it isn't I told you so.

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blunderguffin 2 points ago +2 / -0

Buried in an eight hour video that normies will never watch and MSM will cherry pick what to cover and how.

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instant_covfefe 1 point ago +1 / -0

Anybody have the source video on this?

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rebuildingMyself 1 point ago +1 / -0

I wonder if Facebook updated their eKaren "misinformation" algorithm in time before it auto-flags a CDC post again.

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iSignedUpForThis 1 point ago +1 / -0

The FDA didn't state this. This was presented by an independent presenter on the call.

Delete this post.

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Nerdrem 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hmmm. So following this logically, since the "booster" is in fact just an extra dose of the same "vaccine", wouldn't that mean that the first two doses are also creating variants?

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NotAnotherNPC 1 point ago +1 / -0

To be fair.....
our immune systems are the threat to the virus causing mutations to occur ....
but to be totally fair....
Only viruses that survive our immune systems can mutate. Vaccines have a single protein we can mount a defense against. Those who recovered have immune systems that mounted a defense against many more parts of the virus.

So the vaccine doesn't quite "cause variants" but due to less methods to eradicate an infection, gives that virus more chance to escape and mutate.

Feel free to share this perspective and add to it.... but don't be a dick... lol

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shadows_of_the_mind 1 point ago +2 / -1

Yeah its almost like vaccinating against a bioengineered virus with an unnaturally high mutation rate is going to spur rapid mutation. I know this, you know this, the CDC and FDA know this and thats why they and the biotech companies are making a (literal) killing off Covid.

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cucumbersandwich 1 point ago +1 / -0

Excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If the spike protein mutates, then it won't be able to infect cells anymore.

WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Science, learn it.

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Tennessee_Jed 1 point ago +1 / -0

Leaky vaccine. Going to cause mutation after mutation in everyone who takes it. That's the real goal here. Covid was just the beginning of the plan. The vaccine is the catalyst that will create the REAL pandemic

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GreatHumungous 1 point ago +1 / -0

‘Here come get some shots which will actually spread shit around!’ 🤣

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clownworld30330 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's non-FDA purple presenting at an FDA-run open hearing.

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Serp-Patriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Source?

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BemorePcCuntyFagFace 1 point ago +1 / -0

I need a gosh darn link!!!

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gaijin_ronin 1 point ago +1 / -0

The Dips are gonna Shit