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posted ago by IvermectinWorks ago by IvermectinWorks +964 / -1

The British captured five signers during the war. Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, and Arthur Middleton were captured at the Battle of Charleston in 1780. George Walton was wounded and captured at the Battle of Savannah. Richard Stockton of New Jersey never recovered from his incarceration at the hands of British Loyalists. He died in 1781.

Thomas McKean of Delaware wrote John Adams that he was "hunted like a fox by the enemy — compelled to remove my family five times in a few months …". Abraham Clark of New Jersey had two of his sons captured by the British during the war.

Eleven signers had their homes and property destroyed. Francis Lewis's New York home was razed and his wife taken prisoner. John Hart's farm and mills were destroyed when the British invaded New Jersey, and he died while fleeing capture. Carter Braxton and Nelson, both of Virginia, lent large sums of their personal fortunes to support the war effort but were never repaid.

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sixfingerdildo 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think we are all really really angry. And no leadership to direct our anger. So infighting is predictable. Obviously, everyone prefers peaceful resolution, control, convenience... But honesty has to be enforced, thieves don't just return stolen merch and check in to prison.

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Chosimbaone 1 point ago +1 / -0

All true. But it's also true that no one really wins a hot civil war, It's just whoever is left. There are still avenues that accomplish our goals and still avoid needless bloodshed. All I'm advocating is pursuing those until we can't.

I feel like Mel Gibson in The Patriot sometimes (less badass, but you know what I mean)

Your children will see war with their own eyes in your front yard, etc, etc.