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MAGACountryResident 62 points ago +62 / -0

Seriously. Our founding fathers are probably rolling over in their graves rn. America has pretty much been lost. We need to take it back.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 12 points ago +13 / -1

The local level is about the only realm where we still have influence, and the Democrats are whittling away at that by the day, consolidating and centralizing power at the state and federal level. I'd love to see red states hold the line against it, but it's going to take a lot more than just speeches and tweets to do it.

Yianni1955 5 points ago +6 / -1

Midterm elections and the 2024 presidential election are going to be the turning points. Expect rampant, " in-your-face " cheating to occur AGAIN from the Democratic party. By then, most Conservatives will have been purged from the military and from the workplace for not taking the mRNA injection.

yeldarb1983 2 points ago +2 / -0

What happens when half or better of the military is now citizens who saw the bullshit up close and suddenly the "real" military starts attacking citizens?


I'm not being rhetorical here, this is a question we need to answer, or at least have some idea of the answer to.

Yianni1955 2 points ago +2 / -0

If the military starts attacking citizens, ( which is ALREADY happening in Australia), then I'm sure an insurgency will begin. Afghani tribesmen were able to beat the British Empire, the Soviet Union and the American Hegemon. I'm sure American patriots will not submit to tyranny.

ConservativeTeacher 1 point ago +1 / -0

Wait, so you were in a coma during this last election that was stolen? You act as if so. "Midterm erections and the 2024....huuuurrrrrrrrrrrrdurrrrrrr"-- Dominion, Drop Boxes, remember? Maybe 1-2 states have passed a few laws, that will be overturned by a judg a week before the whatever 20XX election. How fuking stupid or glowie are you?

Abolish the 19th Amendment if you want stupidity out of government.

Yianni1955 1 point ago +1 / -0

Unfortunately, too many people think voting still works as it was originally intended. Most people should of realized in the days and weeks after Nov 3, 2020, that the voting system was corrupted. It still is corrupted. In addition, the illegitimate Biden regime is consolidating power. Voting isn't going to work until integrity is restored. People just aren't motivated enough to take any direct actions. The national situation has to get much worse before masses of people will act to re-establish the rule of law and our Constitution. In the meantime, the Marxist-Democrats are forging ahead with their " Great Replacement " plan by allowing illegal foreigners to flood across our nonexistent southern border. The Democrats will push for blanket amnesty, voting rights and citizenship for these illegals, thus ensuring a permanent Democratic party ruling class.

BytheDozen31 3 points ago +4 / -1





ConservativeTeacher 0 points ago +1 / -1

With the same voting machines and dropbox voting week? You faggot.

ConservativeTeacher 1 point ago +1 / -0

Advocate with whose voting machhines? Glowie faggot.

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Falling_ferret 23 points ago +23 / -0

Why would they be rolling over? The American experiment was and is just that.

I'm not sure how they calculated the "success" though. We live under a tyrannical and illegitimate government today. But our founders knew that would one day happen and provided us with the toolkit to both detect and resolve that situation.

We're certainly on the gurney being resuscitated, the question is, will shock treatment work? If America rolls over and dies, the experiment failed.

But, I believe the spirit of this nation lives on in each of us who choose to resist.

Biden isn't my president, his edicts I will never follow, the Fed is gone and the military is questionable as they fail to protect the constitution.

I still uphold it, but I am one man who has no governmental position. The founder's spirit lives on as long as we do, and we are the majority right now. America isn't lost, it's only in a trying time. I never lost it, because you can't take what can only be given - and that's our right to liberty.

MAGACountryResident 5 points ago +5 / -0

Well said fren. Well said.

Yianni1955 3 points ago +3 / -0

The Feds don't want Conservatives to get organized, but organize we must. If each of us starts local with people we have known and come to trust for a few years, I think we can avoid FBI infiltration. The IRA was successful against the British this way. Let's face reality. The Democratic party has gone far Left and is radicalised. They are willing to let our country be flooded with foreigners so they can buy votes by offering amnesty. This is so totally wrong, but as any card-carrying Communist will tell you, " the ends justify the means." So yeah, patriots need to get organized. A good guide: "Resistance to Tyranny " by Col Joseph Martino and the blog by Selco, ( a Bosnian War survivor)

SouthernParadise 2 points ago +2 / -0

We all have a Great Uncle Ned. It’s time we had a family reunion.

AresNineTwo 14 points ago +14 / -0

There's only one way to do that, and I don't think anyone is willing. Yet.

TRUMP420KUSH 2 points ago +2 / -0

knock knock

bigly4trump 2 points ago +2 / -0

pro tip: the bigger the volume of vague, violent threats, the more of the FBI's time you waste

poohead150 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is the only way...

AmericaFloats 3 points ago +3 / -0

they've turned America into the Plato's Cave allegory, slowly but surely taking away the REAL and replacing them with shadows of their originals. things like liberty and autonomy.

pizzlestickREEEE2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

I feel they'd be watching with great anticipation what we will do in this moment with what they provided as countermeasures against tyranny. Will their framework withstand the assault? Are their examples still something someone could follow?

Plazma10 8 points ago +8 / -0

Canadian FOIA documents confirmed this in January of this year. Trudeau was trying to cover it up: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hYJL2Cn_9IY&feature=emb_title

Pappy_Gunn 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks for posting the link I wonder how long before Youtube shitcans the video. I had seen the documets before, I don't remember where. And heard the plane story too.

yeldarb1983 1 point ago +1 / -0

The nation still exists, but the government has failed that nation.

The government is not the nation. Never Was. Never Will Be.

ceremony_ 22 points ago +25 / -3

Not sure if it is was a "bioweapon" on the part of China.

Look, the entire West and the Globalists needed an excuse for totalitarian control.

All the Chinese did was to give them one.

I don't think it was unplanned.

And when you think about it, the "deaths" have been minimal (except for the astronomical inflation in numbers"). And it brought out the Vaccine Passport.

Fait Accompli.

MAGACountryResident 21 points ago +21 / -0

It was a bio weapon created in a lab. China without a doubt knew about it. Why do you think China sent around those fake videos of people suddenly “dying of Covid” in the streets and on the train? Why do you think China had the outbreak and then soon after was completely back to normal while the rest of the world was still in lockdown? Why do you think it was made in a lab in China? China was in on it and so were the traitorous faggots in our government.

If you don’t think it was a bio weapon check this out and go to page 2286. Read that email to Faggot Faucci.

ceremony_ 6 points ago +8 / -2

Not suggesting that it wasn't a "bioweapon" (or basically, a harmful pathogen).

What I'm suggesting is that this wasn't some secret Chinese plan to conquer the whole world.

What I'm suggesting is that it was planned by Globalists & Chinese to introduce totalitarianism to the world.

4tdw 3 points ago +3 / -0

Exactly. If anyone doesn't think this is what biological warfare looks like then they're not paying attention. China wouldn't drop a bomb with bio weapons on a country. That would be too obvious. Instead they would do exactly this and use our own media against us.

BeachCruisin22 1 point ago +1 / -0

Just like the aliens in Independence Day!

I agree with you, though, this was an obvious act of war

Shadilady 2 points ago +2 / -0

that email alone needs to get Fauci hanged.

RexCollumSilvarum 2 points ago +2 / -0

Just read that page; wow. "HeLa" cells are Henrietta Lacks, right?

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TrustTheTruth 3 points ago +3 / -0

It is part of a global alliance network.

Please read this history about Racine, Wisconsin and relations with China over the past 60 years.


Why were people in Racine experience COVID symptoms months before January 2020?

Foxconn Industrial Internet is based in the two model cities - Shenzhen, China and Racine, Wisconsin.

Chopblock 1 point ago +1 / -0

A cruise missile doesn’t kill very many people. Neither does building a circumvallation. What both do is create the ability to enforce a restrictive battlefield environment where people’s activities and movements can be controlled, either funneled into channels and chokepoints or scattered into disarray.

That is where the killing happens.

ceremony_ 1 point ago +1 / -0

And not to mention, but it's scary as hell, and sends a really strong message.

But are you sure you replied on the right thread?

We're talking about COVID death numbers.

KernalMustard 1 point ago +1 / -0

Never let a crisis go to Waste

DonaldTrumpFan4Life -10 points ago +10 / -20

The deaths havent been minimal. This is completely delusional and scientifically illiterate. Covid has caused the death of millions of people, you can tell by the excess death data. None of you understand what “comorbidity” means. It wasn’t just a bunch of people who got shot and also had covid by coincidence. 99% of the time it was people with diabetes or obesity, these increase your chance of dying, but it doesn’t mean you’re just expected to die at any moment. Covid is primarily what causes the death.

Do you really think Trump has just been lying to us this entire time about covid being a significant issue? No. He recognized it wasn’t the Black Plague, but its also not the common cold. The truth is in the middle. It’s a very bad flu, primarily for the sick and elderly.

illegalvector 19 points ago +19 / -0

Oh, we understand. It means when you die of a heart attack, gunshot wound, car accident, drowning, etc., the hospitals are allowed to slap covid on your death certificate and get paid more.

illegalvector 11 points ago +12 / -1

Worse still, the hospital may just kill you with remdesivir induced renal failure, and call the resulting fluid buildup in your lungs "pneumonia" with a covid comorbidity.

ZeroG1515 5 points ago +5 / -0

Or as a 31 year male pulmonary nurse said, they were letting people drown in their own lung fluid and allowing bacteria to fester in that fluid not treating them with antibiotics until they removed the oxygen and killed them

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AlextheCamel 8 points ago +8 / -0

New Zealand Pede with socialised healthcare here. Doctors won't prescribe anything here other than push the jab. They are not allowed to talk to the media. Between direct government control, bribes and social manipulation we are in worse shape than you. At least you have the front line doctors and some voices of descent.

DonaldTrumpFan4Life -7 points ago +1 / -8

You clearly don’t understand, because the fact you’re mentioning “drowning” etc when 99% of the comorbidities are diabetes or obesity shows you don’t have a clue

Talus033 8 points ago +8 / -0

you are slow mister, and very unimpressive. work on it.

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ColoRobo 7 points ago +7 / -0

And there are your true colors. Go back to reddit.

DocOneToo 4 points ago +5 / -1

Less than an average flu season by far once you account for the inflated numbers u/ceremony_ already mentioned. That's a shitty weapon.

ceremony_ 4 points ago +4 / -0

If you look at the excess deaths, and compare them with the 2017-2018 flu season, you would only see a couple of hundred thousand excess deaths in the United States (from all sources - including suicide, drug overdose, and so forth).

Globally, that would translate to millions. But globally, there are nearly 60 million (recorded) deaths per year.

So the entire epidemic would consume a fraction (excess deaths compared to total deaths), of a fraction (total deaths compared to population).

More people die of vehicular accidents per annum.

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ceremony_ 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's only true if you include comorbidities as part of COVID deaths.

If you instead view COVID as a pathogen that kills an already sick individual, the mortality numbers are exceedingly low.

This type of reasoning doesn't apply to motor vehicle accidents, where there are rarely "indirect" or "associated" causes of death.

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ConservativeTeacher 3 points ago +3 / -0

You are on crack. Even with comorbidities, and even the over 80 category, you are still 95.4% likely to survive it if you get it. Then dramatically less likely to die (even with comorbidities) in each 10 year age bracket below 80.

ceremony_ 1 point ago +1 / -0

Agreed, but the comparison was with a car accident.

My point is that in comparing, say "death by gunshot" with COVID deaths, you have to look at associated/contributing causes because COVID is a systemic illness, and takes up to a couple weeks to kill somebody. If the cardiovascular, pulmonary systems were to fail during this acute period (simply because they have underlying issues), then COVID would be the penultimate, but not he ultimate cause.

If you look at car accidents, and gunshots, there are no contributing factors - it's pretty much a direct death.

And so, as you said, when you sum up some serious comorbidities - shit that would kill people even if they had the flu, or pneumonia, or tuberculosis - you get a very high percentage. And then to attribute all those deaths solely to COVID is a mistake. The real number, where the illness was so acute (or perhaps given wrong treatment), is far lower. And it has continued to decline.

I haven't checked the most recent number since early Summer, perhaps with the "Delta variant" they may be higher.

FormerGraveheart 1 point ago +1 / -0

That figure is almost certainly a lie. A study came out showing no excess deaths whatsoever before the powers that be frantically pulled it, and then suddenly there are hundreds of thousands, all in the last three months of the year? And you believe that, you tard?

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ConservativeTeacher 1 point ago +1 / -0

It was dealy to people OLDER than life expectancy. Basically, it culled the herd, killing people so old, sick, and frail, it sped their deaths up by a few months to maybe 6 months. So there's gonna be a spike. I'd also bet a million dollars 2021 will show virtually an equal drop in excess deaths as 2020's increase.

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DonaldTrumpFan4Life -6 points ago +2 / -8

Wrong. There’s a clear anomaly in excess deaths since 2020.


ceremony_ 2 points ago +3 / -1

Instead of "OurWorldInData", take a look at the actual numbers straight from the CDC:


Look at the 2020 data, and compare them to 2019.

Go ahead, just do it.

DonaldTrumpFan4Life -8 points ago +2 / -10

Lol you guys go back and forth between saying the CDC is filled with hacks and saying it’s the most trustworthy source

ceremony_ 5 points ago +6 / -1

It's not that the CDC is a trusted source.

But if they were biased, by no means would they actually try to "minimize" the number of deaths.

You see, you can't make up a death.

You can make up a "cause of death". You can try to make death happen quicker.

But you can't produce a death certificate (has to be signed by doctor and approved by medical examiner).

So what I am saying is look at the closest data that we have, and see that even from the CDC's mouth, the COVID excess mortality figures are not eyebrow raising, but of a mild concern.

Consumerbot381732 1 point ago +1 / -0

Do you know how they calculate “excess deaths”? Serious question.

Last decade, deaths have trended up each year duo to aging boomer population. Every year more than the last.

“They” are comparing deaths in 2020 to the average of the previous 3 years, instead of following the trend line. Averaging in previous years in order to lower the baseline.

Yet another deception.

Chopblock 2 points ago +2 / -0

Demonstrably false. While they’re a percentage of people that fell into the category that you describe, the vast majority of deaths in the first year occurred in people that had nearly three serious comorbidities and advanced age — people with an extremely short life expectancy that were as susceptible to flu as much as CCP, whether genetically engineered or not.

Combine this with the policy-driven nature of many infections, the regulatory manipulation away from working therapeutics and into diserous ones, and the faked data, and you have a pretty clear picture emerge.

Paintman05WhiteSox 1 point ago +2 / -1

Well said, sane person.

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FormerGraveheart 1 point ago +1 / -0

Then leave, idiot.

sir_rockness 5 points ago +5 / -0

I could tell when I was trying to cough Chang outta my lungs this shit was man-made.

Never had anything like it before in 50 years of life on Earth.

But fuck that shit. I coughed it off... lost 10 lbs, feel stronger and I'm pretty sure my dick grew an inch longer!

KernalMustard 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's because you can see it now

robob2700 4 points ago +4 / -0

Nah, China is great. It's the people's republic of china that's our enemy.

I take the vatican/south america's stance and acknowledge only the Republic of China, seated on the island of Taiwan, as China. The other one which has claimed control of the mainland is just a bunch of commie losers

RexCollumSilvarum 2 points ago +2 / -0

One day West Taiwan will be retaken by our ally the ROC.

y_do_i_need_to_hide 1 point ago +1 / -0

No, it absolutely is not. The only remaining question is what do we do about it. For now on I'm not giving them any money, and I'm preparing to fire on federal agents if they try do unconstitutional things to me or my immediate Neighbors. Outside of that, I'm not so sure.

y_do_i_need_to_hide -1 points ago +1 / -2

No thanks. Flattered, but spoken for.

VinCarver 147 points ago +147 / -0

It was used to quell the Hong Kong rebellion. Did everyone forget that?

getkek 61 points ago +66 / -5

Exactly. And to add to this, did we forget that COVID is an unidentified coronavirus strain that has yet to be isolated, with a mortality rate identical to the flu and survivable by 99.7% for normal individuals?

What we need to do now is learn to live with it, if it even exists. Seems to me it's only a bio-economic warfare weapon, otherwise it should kill on its own without the need to euthanize the elderly in nursing clinics with sedatives to pump numbers up and hysteria.

I think I covered it all, but for anyone not paying attention yet, what I said is true.

Specter 23 points ago +25 / -2

Surely it has been isolated.

getkek 29 points ago +32 / -3

No, it has not believe it or not. There are several bounties waiting to be payed out to anyone who can isolate a strand.

All that was ever declared officially is the "disease", which, as we can see, is now every symptom under the sun along with bodily functions except breathing.

Pretty crazy.

Specter 21 points ago +22 / -1

Covid does exist. The reaction to covid has just been insane tho

getkek 1 point ago +7 / -6

It only exist because officials keep telling you symptoms exist. No isolated strain proving it exists has been provided.

Research for your self, don't rely on me. I can tell you big foot exists too but it doesn't make it true without real evidence.

It is easy to get confused in this hysteria especially when theory has been sold to everyone as facts.

Thetigerpoppy 20 points ago +21 / -1

The protien is real. It's why we know this started in a lab. Your right that they've never isolated a complete sequence and it's all computer generated sequences but the protien is provably real

alcowiggles 0 points ago +3 / -3

The protien is real.

Prove it.

Rudy_DankMemer 4 points ago +8 / -4

Surely it has been isolated

Now do HIV.

Wanna guess which derp state faggot is at the front of THAT bullshit?

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DRKMSTR 12 points ago +13 / -1

It's a 2-week cold.

And it can be reduced with the proper medications. The issue is our government doesn't care about treatment, only compliance.

getkek 9 points ago +10 / -1

Exactly, it's a 2-week cold because its a coronavirus. The numbers of deaths are artificial. Never forget the nursing home scandal that happened all over the globe to set the stage for outbreak narrative.

Never in human history has a virus only attacked specific buildings.

KekistanPM 6 points ago +6 / -0

Moreso with preventative habits such as exercise, sunlight and fresh air, and eating fresh fruits, vegetables and proteins.

Could also make a case for being social or at least staying away from toxic people as mental and spiritual health can affect physical health.

DRKMSTR 1 point ago +1 / -0

So I fit all the requirements for mitigating covid (I exercised regularly, ate healthy, used vitamins)

It's still taking ~10 days and it sucks. (I'm ordering ivermectin for the next variant, I do not want to go through this again.)

Thankfully I didn't get a cough or any lung issues.

Lelleck 4 points ago +4 / -0

Not true. It is 99.8 percent.

Fat people, cancer patients and all of that already included…

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NoMoreMeanTweets 4 points ago +4 / -0


They were more afraid of this because if Trump got his way other countries would want it too and it would really hurt China.

gun_toting_patriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

Trump and his admin. was such a huge threat to China, I don't think you can overlook that as the main reason for releasing the virus.

Go look at his old interviews and how long he's been talking trash about China and the danger China poses (in contrast to every other politician singing Chynas praises)

pushbackv2 8 points ago +9 / -1

People underestimate the lengths China will go to keep Hong Kong in check.

Mew_Deuces 7 points ago +7 / -0

"Donald Trump don't trust China, China is asshoe!"

RoofKorean 1 point ago +1 / -0

And they got what they wanted.

Inquisitor_Corvus 65 points ago +66 / -1

Why isn’t Beijing a sea of glass?

cjcivicx 50 points ago +50 / -0

Biden would lose his lucrative bonuses...

ParticleCannon 15 points ago +15 / -0

All of those precious fingerpaintings, lost forever

thisguy883 6 points ago +6 / -0

no more 10% for the big guy.

DonJr2032 13 points ago +13 / -0

MacArthur wanted to nuke them in the Korean war, but was denied authorization multiple times (for good reasons, as we know these bombs are devastatingly bad), but if he had his way, things would have been much different

Donger-Lord2 7 points ago +7 / -0

If only we had Patton in the Oval in WW2. We would have never had to deal with any of this.

nickybops 5 points ago +5 / -0

“The enemy’s air would first have been taken out. I would have dropped between 30 to 50 tactical atomic bombs on his air bases and other depots strung across the neck of Manchuria from just across the Yalu at Antung (northwest tip of Korea) to the neighborhood of Hunchun (northeast tip of Korea near the border of the USSR).

“That many bombs would have more than done the job! Dropped under the cover of darkness, when his planes were in for the night, they would have destroyed his air force on the ground, wiped out his maintenance and his airmen. …

“With the destruction of the enemy’s air power, I would then have called upon a half million of Chiang Kai-shek’s troops, sweetened by two U.S. Marine divisions. These would have been formed into two amphibious forces. One, totaling four-fifths of my strength and led by one of the Marine divisions, would have landed at Antung and proceeded eastward along the road that parallels the Yalu."

“The other force, led by the other Marine division, would have landed simultaneously at Unggi or Najin in the east, hit the same river road, and moved very quickly westward. … [The] forces could have joined in two days, forming a wall of manpower and firepower across the entire northern border of Korea. …

“Now, with the northern border sealed, the 8th Army, spread roughly along the 38th Parallel, would then have put pressure on the enemy from the South. The joined amphibious forces would press down from the North. Nothing in the way of supplies or reinforcements could have moved across the Yalu.

“North Korea, holding not less than one million to 1 1/2 million of the enemy, could not have sustained him. It had been picked clean. The enemy commander would have been starved out within 10 days after the landings. I suggest now he would have sued for peace immediately after learning his air had been taken out and we had spread across his supply routes.

  • General Douglas Macarthur
Shruggo89 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'm sold. Let's get it done!

iSignedUpForThis 3 points ago +3 / -0

What do you mean by "devastatingly bad". Our firebombing raids were literally more devastating to human life and likely more horrific for the unwilling participants.

However, I'm not a history buff and now tend to question every instance of "settled history". 😅

DonJr2032 1 point ago +1 / -0

What do you mean by "devastatingly bad".

If you really do not know the answer to this, read about Japan. We relentlessly firebombed the shit out of them and what happened, they continued to fight to the death of the last man.

We nuked them, then they understood what "devastatingly bad" is, unlike you, and they surrendered.

iSignedUpForThis 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ahhh I see: More settled history. You've left me unconvinced because I've also read some suggest the bombs weren't the catalyst.

Why did we have to drop two? Why didn't one work?

DonJr2032 2 points ago +2 / -0

If you are truly interested in the topic, I'd suggest reading the book "Truman by David McCullough".

If you feel unconvinced, that's because I only wrote a few small sentences, and yes, there are many books worth of details between my sentences with many stories and perspectives, including that some thought we shouldn't nuke them and they they would surrender anyway, and that they likely would have at some point later on.

But that doesn't change what happened. We firebombed the shit out of them, no surrender, no significant evidence that they would not fight to the death. We nuked them, they surrendered. As to why it took two nukes, you would have to ask their Emperor, but I will summarize what I believe to be his reason for you: because he understood what "devastatingly bad" was at that point.

iSignedUpForThis 4 points ago +4 / -0

Thanks for the info!

Try to keep in mind that not every question is asked adversarially even when it is contrary to one's own knowledge, wisdom, and beliefs.

y_do_i_need_to_hide 5 points ago +5 / -0

Because they own the upper leadership of the federal government and most of the states.

ConservativeTeacher 2 points ago +2 / -0

Don't have to nuke em, just airdrop all the Chinese fentanyl we seize back into China in loose bags.

Perhelion 2 points ago +2 / -0

Questions that need answers 👆🏽

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Icepck 20 points ago +21 / -1

I would like to propose a theory: the virus has a proper vaccine to go along with it. Democrats in government were inoculated, and therefore unafraid to go to Chinatown (Pelosi). They helped spread the disease. The "vaccine" offered to the public is just the disease.

y_do_i_need_to_hide 5 points ago +5 / -0

I have no clue whether you are right. What you propose seems to match the statistics better than the official story, so there's that.

usa_foot_print 4 points ago +4 / -0

No. It doesn’t have a proper vaccine. It has a proper treatment (ivermectin). You ain’t going to vax your way out of a coronavirus as thousands of doctors and virologists have stated.

Icepck 1 point ago +1 / -0

I meant the real vaccine was taken by Pelosi and the like well before this fake thing came out for peasants. That's why these 80 year old politicians seem to do just fine if they're democrats.

usa_foot_print 4 points ago +4 / -0

Bro. I’m telling you an effective vaccine for a coronavirus is a unicorn. That’s just not how our bodies work.

paytreeit 3 points ago +3 / -0

I've been trying to tell everyone this. Don't they know what the hell a coronavirus is? It's not new...

Icepck 1 point ago +1 / -0

Who says it is really a coronavirus at all?

MrSir 53 points ago +53 / -0

I remember the ccp trying to blame our soldiers as the source of the coof.

Very interesting if true.

Consumerbot381732 12 points ago +12 / -0

What’s really nuts is how Tom Clancy wrote a novel many years ago about spreading a virus at the Olympics in order to achieve a pandemic. Copied and pasted from Wikipedia (ugh):

From within the Olympics security apparatus, Henriksen plans to use a bioweapon containing the Shiva virus, a strengthened form of the Ebola virus that had been used by Iran in its biological attack on the U.S. Since people from virtually every country in the world are present at the Olympics, infecting them would ensure the swift worldwide spread of the virus. The resulting epidemic would kill millions, and Horizon would distribute a "vaccine" that actually contains a slow-acting version of the virus itself, which would then kill the rest of the world's population. The "chosen few", having been provided with the real vaccine, would then be allowed to inherit the emptied world.

Perhelion 7 points ago +7 / -0

Idiots told on themselves.

IncredibleMrE1 39 points ago +39 / -0

I know a couple of people who I am almost certain had COVID long before the first official case was reported in the States.

Spez: Here is an article I posted early last year. https://archive.md/PPwJq COVID was in the States in November 2019. Flu visits in 2019-2020 flu season skyrocketed compared to previous years but cases didn't. People were getting a mysterious flu-like illness that wasn't the flu. It was COVID.

Spez 2: https://patriots.win/p/FMSw5bqD/

TexasPiper 12 points ago +12 / -0

I am almost certain I was one of those people along with all of my immediate family, we got it November 2019. An extended family member traveled to China once a month before wuflu and we saw them right after they came back. We all got sick with the flu and a couple of us got pneumonia. I never get the flu and I’ve never had pneumonia either.

Based-Engineer 5 points ago +5 / -0

Sewage samples in Spain all the way back from March 2019 tested positive for the virus. Same thing in Italy with blood samples from September 2019. Assuming the tests weren't just triggered by another flu or cold virus, this thing was traveling the world through 2019 and no one even noticed.

TexasPiper 5 points ago +5 / -0

“ Assuming the tests weren't just triggered by another flu or cold virus”

Knowing what we know now about the tests, that’s a pretty big if.

Based-Engineer 2 points ago +2 / -0

Been a while since I reviewed it, but the Italian study actually was looking for antibodies in blood. No idea how accurately those are identified either though.

usa_foot_print 2 points ago +2 / -0

You can have antibodies for COVID-19 from other strains of coronavirus’s. It’s not exactly shocking.

Based-Engineer 1 point ago +1 / -0

The antibodies in question are SARS-CoV-2 RBD antibodies, which I believe are specific to covid-19. Then again, who tf knows the actual truth.

usa_foot_print 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don’t think they know it down to that specifics

FormerGraveheart 2 points ago +2 / -0

Nobody would ever have noticed this bullshit if not for the media and crooked governments. That really is how weak it is.

Jebs_guac_recipe 2 points ago +2 / -0

I also got afflicted with the longest illness I’ve ever had back in Nov 2019. My dad was going through chemo treatments in San Antonio at the time and I figured he brought something home, he had it too but not as bad. I’ve never been one to stop being productive when I get sick, but I literally spent 3 days in bed watching movies. It got better about a week in, then came back and got bad again for another full week. It was unlike any flu or cold or strep throat, much different than anything I’ve ever had. I slept with my wife the whole time and she never caught it (perhaps asymptomatic).

Oback_Barama 6 points ago +7 / -1

I had to visit a doctor in a hospital the first week of Jan 2020. At the entrance they made everyone sign a paper saying they hadn't had any flu-like symptoms and they were handing out masks. They said the reason was "It's a really bad Flu season."

Then it turns out that the Flu all but disappears in 2020 and is replaced with the coof that has about the same mortality rate, except now its Muh Pandemic, and we need mail in ballots.

Mrs.Frostbite 3 points ago +3 / -0

November 2019. It was towards the beginning of the month. We co own our home and my father first became ill. Then my youngest who ate breakfast with grandpa every day got ill. Then I did. Then another child. (My husband and two other kids and my mother never got ill). Headache. Extreme exhaustion. And some other symptoms of illness. Low temp and so on. And then food “tasted” odd. (Coffee to this day still doesn’t have the same flavors). It was never as bad as a flu but way worse than a cold. We were down for three weeks. My father who is a thin man lost 10 lbs. ( I found out after my vit d levels were extremely low so upped the d!)

Fast forward to this early spring my husband got covid from coworkers. A couple months later our two other kids had a sore throat and a runny nose and then a week later loss of taste. No one ever tested but one of the children went and got an antibody test and had them. So we know for sure that child had covid.

The Original four of us still never got ill. We never quarantined anyone. My youngest is always around her father and siblings. I obviously sleep in the same bed as him and almost two yrs after that odd illness the four of us have not gotten covid.

saltyviewer123 2 points ago +2 / -0

Perhaps even sooner than November. I remember early reports of people in China going to hospital for digestive problems. I had direct contact with people from Wuhan sometime between September and November 2019 and got sick but it didn't seem normal. Had digestive problems for a month and my blood felt like sludge for at least a few days early on (maybe I was clotting, yikes!).

Ocineaa 2 points ago +2 / -0

My household all got very ill last January. I was sick 4 days with a fever between 103-103.9. my lady got 3 flu tests because she was sick as well and they were all negative.

Gooseontheloose 36 points ago +36 / -0

Man my confirmation bias is tingling right now.

Trumpetsnotcrumpets 29 points ago +29 / -0

4chan was talking about this exact scenario 3 months ago. I was talking to a coworker about it and now theres a whistleblower. Fucking unreal.

Deltamyass 20 points ago +20 / -0

3 months? I remember before the pandemic even begin they were talking about the military getting sick after the games in like December 2019.

11Bignveiny 6 points ago +6 / -0

I think the virus was tearing through DC even before Dec 2019, with some active duty military who attended the games probably bringing it back with them to the Pentagon

I had one of the worst flus that I’ve ever had in Oct that year, and a lot of other people I know had had something similar as well

Deltamyass 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yeah I remember hearing about it Oct-Dec before it became a big deal. No wonder they downplayed it for so long, they needed people not to worry until it spread worldwide.

Unsilent 8 points ago +8 / -0

There was some talk on here about this a few months ago too. Not sure how long ago to be honest

Icepck 8 points ago +8 / -0

I remember my sister and grandmother having a really bad cold for 2 weeks and testing negative for flu in November 2019. We suspected it was covid once covid was announced. This makes it seem more likely.

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logan34 18 points ago +18 / -0

NOT SURPRISED MOTHERFUCKERS! CCP worked with global homo elite to get rid of Trump and unleash a pandemic so they could take control back of the most powerful nation and economy in world.

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ObongoForPrison2020 -5 points ago +2 / -7

It's literally a renamed flu, dude. When we say "COVID doesn't exist," we mean it's the flu. We understand people are getting sick. From the flu. And the cases and deaths are all overcounted beyond belief.

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ObongoForPrison2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

OK, so it's a cold. You know I love you u/BasedMedicalDoctor, but I am done pretending the Chinese Virus is anything to be concerned about. In fact, I have never cared.

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ConservativeTeacher 1 point ago +1 / -0

99.986% survival rate for the 20-30 age bracket. So if you saw a person in their 20's die of it, you shoulda bought a lottery ticket that day.

logan34 2 points ago +3 / -1

I'm sorry my guy but you're delusional. The common flu does not have BIOWEAPON spike proteins added to it that does this:

SARS-CoV-2 Spike can bind not only to ACE2, but also potentially bind to integrins, neuropilin-1, and bacterial LPS, all of which can be highly inflammatory.




SARS-CoV-2 Spike can injure the blood-brain barrier and increase its permeability.


SARS-CoV-2 Spike has a superantigenic (SAg) region that can trigger insane inflammation.


SARS-CoV-2 Spike has an amyloidogenic region that could promote neurodegenerative disease in the long term, such as Alzheimer's.


SARS-CoV-2 Spike is capable of triggering autoimmune attacks. Anti-Spike antibodies are harmful to healthy tissue.


ConservativeTeacher 1 point ago +2 / -1

All coronaviruses have a list of things they CAN do, which is why it's called "being sick/ill/catching a cold"--we've always known that colds and flu's can take out the frail, and occasionally even healthy people. Nothing new here.

borscht-nazi -1 points ago +1 / -2

Don't bother: covidians are fanatics, their empty meaningless existences make them need a validation of some sort, such as this bullshit that is now a "bioweapon". You can't reason with them, they are literally NPCs.

GuyOnABuffalo 14 points ago +14 / -0

Remember when the ChiComs claimed the US Military released the virus exactly at this time?

What's the chance the CIA fucking did it?

DonJr2032 6 points ago +6 / -0

Little. Don't trust anything China says. They are commies

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Formerleftist 11 points ago +11 / -0

It was definitely intentional, the only problem is our politicians and government are so tied up to China that we would never retaliate. This will happen again, biological warfare has only begun.

Just remember the elites would be happy to take billions out just so they could live in happiness on their untouched land with many servants to tend to them, with no concern of threat. Thats the scary part.

ConservativeTeacher 3 points ago +3 / -0

Look up Fentanyl deaths per year for the last 10 years. We've been at asymmetrical warfare for quite some time. Add cyberhacking and it's 20 years.

N8daGr8 10 points ago +10 / -0

Sounds about right!

dahdahdah_dahditdah 9 points ago +9 / -0

It sounds like he doesn't have personal knowledge of this specific allegation, but has heard it from insiders.

I strongly suspect that China (with stupid CDC funding) is to blame for COVID via the Wuhan virology lab, however I am not hanging my hat on this claim until I see evidence.

KennethsFrequency 12 points ago +13 / -1

Member the first few weeks of covid, china was releasing photos of hazmat suited guys spraying building and sidewalks with yellow smoke, stepping over dead bodies as if they were dying within seconds of getting covid, member horror stories about chinese welding doors closed to keep people in their apartments ?

You see, when china wanted the entire world shutdown it was no problem admitting it came from that lab, so as to make it as scary as possible...fast forward a year and the same china sends our media out to pretend they have no clue...

It was always a chinese release , the only reason it is in question is to deflect any responsibility

dahdahdah_dahditdah 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yeah, I definitely believe it was from China and that China knew that early on. The virus lab at Wuhan was supervised by (and no doubt for) the Chinese military.

Whether there was a deliberate release at the international military games at Wuhan or an accidental release or some other scenario, the fundamental guilt of those who developed these man made viruses doesn't change.

Takeshima 1 point ago +1 / -0

KennethsFrequency I disagree, it is 100% a bioweapon created in a lab and not a 4d chess conspiracy tricking the west into lockdowns due to a ‘fake’ virus, also why would china subject themselves to the resulting international backlash and scrutiny on a world stage for releasing a ‘bioweapon’ on their OWN doorstep? Logic suggests that ccp chinas plan was to release a REAL bioweapon but not in mainland china which would be too obvious so they originally planned to release a bioweapon in a foreign country which would be perfect to launder the origins, a perfect example would be historical mortal enemy Japan, IMO the 2020 Tokyo Olympics was the planned target for releasing the virus to cause global chaos and remove Trump (athletes would be perfect vector to spread wuhan bioweapon internationally plus china could pre quarantine everyone who arrived home to prevent an outbreak) but due to china being a corner cutting sh1thole with non existent bio safety standards it accidentally leaked prematurely and the ccp panicked wasting valuable time trying to cover up the outbreak rather than alerting the world..

Most of the people dismissing the virus or trying to divert the responsibility from china are either low iq mouth breather flat earthers or ccp “50 cent army” shills deliberately spreading party line propaganda.

JesusisKing 6 points ago +6 / -0

That makes sense because I got it in like November or December and was sick for like a week or two then have never caught it

schnazzmizzle 6 points ago +6 / -0

I came to that conclusion as well while researching Canada/China joint operations.

CMDRConanAAnderson 6 points ago +6 / -0

I have a very interesting story about my personal encounter with a WuFlu-like illness that occurred in late October (very last week) and early November 2019. By that time there was already spread, enough to reach the US by that time. I was bedridden for about a week with a stubborn flu that did not go away. There were some very interesting unconfirmed rumors going around that China initially fumbled the bioweapon by releasing a variant that wasn't strong enough (or possibly contagious enough?) to rapidly pile up enough deaths to start the panic. This is confirmed by the unusual inefficacy of the virus initially in Jan 2020 when the virus was first confirmed in the US. Oddly enough, the story was people had antibodies in them from a previous flu spread. This explains why the peak of WuFlu mania happened in March/April and not in February. If this virus was at all contagious as they said, why did it not spread within a month after initial contact when there was no vaccine and people did not yet make the Ivermectin study? As many will forget, this Jan-March window was the time before lockdowns forced people to avoid sunlight and exercise in what some attributed to explosive spread of what many consider to be a moderate Corona virus.

There are more details to my story that I can't divulge, like where the strain originated from, a very unusual non-Asia country that might dox me. I've extensively looked into this matter and believe October was the time frame where this all originated. It's probable that planning began well before this, but the actual execution of the plan started almost certainly in late Sept to early Oct. If you have any information on a "pre-covid", a weaker strain of Corona virus spread around the October to December time frame please share it with me. Also where it originated from is an important detail.

Friendly reminder this was memory holed, I doubt even 10% of the site is aware this happened:


What was in the vials? To understand the timeline you have to make the realization that the virus was already released by January 2021. Production and distribution of Corona virus variant 19 had to have been in the works for months before that time, this is true whether you believe in the virology lab origin theory or not. Knowing that, what was a chemist doing with Chinese nationals at a critical time in the process? The rest of the story speaks for itself. Note: this was before the discoveries into the Thousand Talents and schools of Confucius were broken, people did not know about them when this event occurred.

Fiddletwinks 4 points ago +4 / -0

Ya I was sick with all of the covid symptoms by December 19 in Canada.

Latin_Patriot_MAGA 6 points ago +6 / -0

But like any product made in China that doesn't work at all, they had to find another mechanism to spread this bioweapon, and what is it? Well, we see him every day promoting, yes, that's right, the famous 'vaccine' 'miracle cure' ''

MythArcana 5 points ago +5 / -0

Remember when China was trying to blame us for sending infected athletes to the Military Games? Pepe Farms sure as fuck does.

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stick_in_the_eye 5 points ago +5 / -0

dont forget the people running whatever country you live in that went along with it, against you!

Trythisagain 5 points ago +5 / -0

Well hell, I’m sure Joe knew!

Lurking-My-Life-Away 5 points ago +5 / -0

Huh. That explains my November 2019 sickness.

N8daGr8 4 points ago +4 / -0

We felt a nov 2019 nasty flu that I have been convinced was covid.

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g00se2k 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yep, I definitely had COVID during Christmas 2019. Finally went to the clinic on Christmas Eve after feeling like crap all week and received the diagnosis of "bronchitis resulting from an unknown respiratory virus." Doc said it looks like I kicked it on my own and didn't prescribe anything. Cough lasted for a few weeks after that and was actually super annoying.

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Rubicante 4 points ago +4 / -0

Of course Biden's people ignored him. They probably forwarded his reporr back to China to round up this guy's family.

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JackLemon 4 points ago +4 / -0

Obvious bio-weapon is obvious, but so is US involvement. They needed to hurt the economy and steal the election to remove Trump who they knew was going to be reelected.

maniacal1 4 points ago +4 / -0

This doesn't surprise me.

My boss got sick with what we assumed was just a pretty mean flu back at the end of November of 2019, and was out a whole week. Myself and a few other associates were out as well for a few days, just achy and phlegmy coughs. Once news about COVID started circulating, we all just assumed that's what we had gotten, and shocker: those of us that got tested show antibodies. COVID was a thing WAY before China fessed up.

pushbackv2 4 points ago +5 / -1

Fucking duh.

d3plor4ble 4 points ago +4 / -0

Obama and Fauci and Ralph Baric worked with the CCP to make this happen, INTENTIONALLY.

jdog 3 points ago +3 / -0

There has been plenty of evidence that this was intentional. The timing of the virus, the way it behaves are evidence it was intentional. This is the first bit of proof we have had though that it was intentional. We all knew it.

michaelsuede 3 points ago +3 / -0

Nope, this is disinformation. French researchers found antibodies in blood samples as far back as September of 2019. This story is a lie.


HerAlterEgo 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why not both?

Canadians reported getting sick on the flight home from the games.

UsernameChexOut 3 points ago +3 / -0

The fact that this was intentional was probably the only thing more obvious than the fedbois from last weekend

Ocineaa 3 points ago +3 / -0

Sounds about right.

Antisocialdilemma 3 points ago +3 / -0

For that to work they(CCP, globalists, US deep state) would have needed to take Ft. Detrick(US Army biological warfare, infectious disease lab) off the board. Oh, that's right the CDC shut them down in the summer of 2019 over a containment leak. Just as the mysterious vaping illness spread, starting in Maryland.

Reclaimer69 3 points ago +3 / -0

That makes sense, since I caught it in November of 2019.

MAGA_ME 2 points ago +2 / -0

But we funded it and proposed it be released?

infinitysupreme 2 points ago +2 / -0

He's not a whistleblower because he doesn't have insider knowledge, only suspicions.

FUCKKAMALA 2 points ago +2 / -0

This was an act of WAR against the USA and the rest of the civilized world. Biden should nuke Wuhan TODAY. Now is NOT the time for weakness!!!

Herpawinski 2 points ago +2 / -0

They owe the United States one year of GDP minimum. $21.5 trillion, and that's just one country.

Jaqen 2 points ago +2 / -0

This was known by everyone reading zerohedge by February 2020.

the_neon_cowboy 2 points ago +2 / -0

There was research that suggested patient zero happened in October so this lines up..

makazolesub 1 point ago +1 / -0

I believe the YouTube video from March 2020 said it was September 2019 that they were urgently looking for a bat pneumonia research position at that lab , they actually removed patient zero from the Wuhan lab website where she was listed.

I can't seem to find the YouTube clip and it was there still last week.

bananafone 2 points ago +2 / -0

We known this since ,Feb 2020

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Pdjco658 2 points ago +2 / -0

All china has to do is buy a couple of hunters paintings and this will all be swept under the rug

RolandDelacroix 2 points ago +2 / -0

Incorrect, we knew about Covid in mid/late September 2019.

doug2 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fucking gooks man. IT CAME FROM CHINA

ZhaoBaiDeng 2 points ago +2 / -0

So everyone has a short memory, it seems.

After wuhan lab leak theories, china went and concocted it's own. They said that the US spread covid at the military games to infect chinese. It was all over their social media and even twitter.

Now we have a "whistle blower" saying something similar, just like we had a whistle blower on lab origin.

Here you go: https://www.ibtimes.sg/us-military-brought-coronavirus-china-top-official-refers-military-games-wuhan-2019-40911

What a fucking cluster.

makazolesub 2 points ago +2 / -0

Do you remember the youtube origins of corona link, I have the video saved somewhere but it's still on YouTube somewhere if I recall .

It's from March 2020 but details back to September 2019 when the job listing went out.

ZhaoBaiDeng 1 point ago +1 / -0

vaguely, I remember the job listing more.

Suddenly we need a new bat/virus researcher at WIV, ho ho ho.

FWIW I don't think they intentionally dropped it on the games, they were just oblivious. The intentional part came later: allowing international flights from wuhan, lying about the virus, silencing dr's, tricking the world into lockdowns, etc.

grannyd 2 points ago +3 / -1

Several people I know and am related to had a mystery illness affecting breathing and upper respiratory. Some developed pneumonia. Drs didn't seem to know exactly the cause. Treated with steroids and antibiotics. Were tested for flu. Said it was not flu. Time frame = week after Thanksgiving, 2019 through early Jan, 2020.

RonaldStump 2 points ago +2 / -0

George Webb was saying this from the beginning

Republic_or_Nothing 2 points ago +2 / -0

The second complete obvious sign was China's response to the virus. They shutdown Wuhan's borders to slow down the spread into mainland China. However they kept Wuhan's international airport opened. They finally decided to lockdown Wuhan's airport on the Jan. 23rd 2020. Chinese new year was Jan. 25th 2020. The biggest travel time of the year just so happened to line up with china's virus in full swing. Airplanes are the perfect way to insure multiple people get infected on that long fight and spread it around the world.

That is not an accident. Anyone with a brain would have realized this holiday coming up in 2019 and shut it down.

ZeroG1515 2 points ago +2 / -0

My conspiracy theory is this vaccine is actually for the bioweapon we are about to unleash on China. Lol

decafllort 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't think "we" are that smart. But it's a fun theory.