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hovercraft 277 points ago +277 / -0

I bet the cows on Bill Gates' land don't get taxed. Just a hunch.

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Bogey 130 points ago +132 / -2

His cows are more sophisticated.

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Crappydatum 97 points ago +98 / -1

They don't fart, they aereate

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Fourtyandfourtyfive 35 points ago +36 / -1

And this is the cows I will rustle.

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notCIA 19 points ago +21 / -2

You're awakening things inside of me...

My ancestors were horse wranglers and outlaws in the 1800's. Might have to take up the other family trade again.

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NotAPuma 23 points ago +23 / -0

Stealing Cows from Bill Gates? I'm fucking ready.

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HKgoneWild 17 points ago +17 / -0

The miracle: 50 head disappear from Gateland, and suddenly every fridge in the neighboring towns has 40 lbs of beef appear. It's a modern miracle I say.

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NotAPuma 7 points ago +7 / -0

Robinhood, but cooler.

Our motto can be "Stocking America's Fridges", lmao.

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msgtlefty 4 points ago +4 / -0

Hee haw. I’m in

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Taupkek 3 points ago +3 / -0

SHHH! He's listening!

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rufrignkidnme -5 points ago +7 / -12

being the descendent of horse thieves ain't exactly something to be proud of. Stealing a man's horse is as good as killing him... there is a reason horse thieves were hung on capture.

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notCIA 6 points ago +6 / -0

Oh, gee. Hadn't noticed.

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Assassin47 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yeah? Some cows need rustlin'. Some men need killin'.

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rufrignkidnme -4 points ago +1 / -5

yeah, those who rustle cattle and steal horses. it's why god gave us oak trees.

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Anon89 1 point ago +2 / -1

You suck. Be proud of your heritage either way. Loser.

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rufrignkidnme 0 points ago +1 / -1

I suck. I'm proud my ancestors didn't steal livestock.

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IowanMaga 1 point ago +1 / -0

YEEHAWWW

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Dirk_Diggler 60 points ago +60 / -0

They are probably “modified” and are no longer considered “cattle” or even “cows.”

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bluedevilga 55 points ago +56 / -1

Shut up and eat your bugs, bigot

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SpezDispenser 28 points ago +28 / -0

Oh come on, thats sensationalism! There will be plenty of "beyond" meat for everyone.

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Amateurgynecologist 15 points ago +16 / -1

Impossible burgers for all!

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bubadmt 13 points ago +13 / -0

Those taste like shit.

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SorosHasBallsackEyes 14 points ago +14 / -0

But they can help you grow a sweet set of man-boobs!

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unicornpoop 8 points ago +8 / -0

Moobs.

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notCIA 4 points ago +4 / -0

I read that there was no telling the difference so I tried some of the fake ground beef. Did my best on some burgers and they were atrocious.

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Donald_Gear_Solid 8 points ago +8 / -0

I gagged and spit it up. I do not do dramatics so it was my real reaction. Had this sick chemical pea like aftertaste.

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MyAuntFanny 1 point ago +1 / -0

I had to cook some for a vegetarian once. Creeped me out how much it looked and acted like meat. I couldn't bring myself to taste it.

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Moebius 1 point ago +1 / -0

Its because of the Gayness in every bite...

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becky21k1 3 points ago +3 / -0

Can't spell gayness without anus

That pun works better spoken

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King5150 11 points ago +11 / -0

i was dared to eat a vegetarian/vegan sausage and it was the most horrible thing i had ever eaten. took a bite and my body refused to let it down the hatch. I had to quickly spit it out.

if vegans eat no animal products then why are there vegan sausages and vegan bacon? it makes absolutely no sense unless they secretly love the idea of eating bacon and sausages?

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powershellder 0 points ago +1 / -1

Some people like meat but are against factory farming and eat vegetarian for ethical reasons. I can respect that. Some farms have pretty poor living conditions.

I’ve had some fake chicken that wasn’t too bad.

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Thrasymachus 4 points ago +4 / -0

Good news! The weekly ration of "beyond meat" has been increased to twenty grams per week.

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HKgoneWild 2 points ago +2 / -0

But the ration was reduced to 20 grams last week? fact check:mostly false- while the ration levels have been increased to 20g/week, the previous level of 20g/week was a reduction from the previous level, which happened to be reduced 5 days ago. The ration was not adjusted 1 week ago.

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KaramelloKamala 4 points ago +4 / -0

Soylent green made from all the soyboys who took the jab

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Liberty5-3000 13 points ago +13 / -0

Herds of buggalo

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Brucesky420 39 points ago +39 / -0

They don't. I used to work on an orchard and vineyard right next to a massive Welch's farm. While we had to constantly adjust to the changing environmental laws - Welch's didn't do shit. They'd just pay the fine because it's cheaper.

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rentfREEEE_since2016 12 points ago +13 / -1

You think Bill gates gives a shit? He’s probably going to euthanize them.

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jomten 10 points ago +10 / -0

He probably does. Its like dosing everything with poison knowing you will survive what kills everything else.

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Atlantapede 183 points ago +183 / -0

The average 800 pound feeder steer goes for $1136 with a market price of 1.46 per pound as of august 15th (data ) it takes roughly 12 to 22 months for maturity so if we assume two tax cycles. The same steer would cost $6336 or $7.92 per pound.

TLDR: beef prices will rise 542% from where they are now due to taxes.

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JMaN 175 points ago +175 / -0

Didn't something happen when tea was being taxed at some time in history?

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TrumpPatriot 66 points ago +66 / -0

Yea, I heard something about that. I wonder if history repeats itself from time to time. Let's see.

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Litterboxer1 54 points ago +55 / -1

The South Dakota Steer Party.

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HKgoneWild 14 points ago +15 / -1

They'll never take our burgers and steaks!! It's our birthright!! But, in all seriousness, this is just a reminder that if you are able body, you should be laying off the soda and working out. Shits coming soon. Don't be a lootbox for someone else cause you get winded after jogging a quarter of a mile.

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GrayManNumber333 43 points ago +43 / -0

Let’s throw the politicians in the water, the cows did nothing wrong.

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arkivx 17 points ago +17 / -0

Take the cows to DC and let the out of the trailers as soon as you get as close to capital building and Whitehouse as possible. I'm sure a few thousand cows running wild in D.C would be awesome to watch, but expensive for the ranchers.

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GrayManNumber333 16 points ago +16 / -0

Better would be to release wolves and Haitians there.

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pepperonishoes 9 points ago +9 / -0

Cows need vacinations Haitians don't.

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TheRealTurdFurgeson 8 points ago +8 / -0

Not as expensive as keeping the cows.

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Fusion360 1 point ago +1 / -0

Drop them from airplanes.

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prayinpede 8 points ago +8 / -0

This is literally taxation without representation

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becky21k1 5 points ago +5 / -0

Gonna be a bitch tossing those cows into the bay

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Sodium_miner 20 points ago +20 / -0

Come and steak it? No? Sorry I’ll show myself out.

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I_Used_to_be_me 18 points ago +18 / -0

Let’s go pedes, time to throw the cows in the harbor!!

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MasksAreChildAbuse 7 points ago +7 / -0

They didn’t have tea replacements, or an endless stream of entertainment and distractions to subdue or placate the masses at the time, so when something happened, they fought back. But now humanity is too docile and dependent because of its indulgence in convenience and luxury. Maybe I’m cynical.

Hell just the other day a pede on this site was saying we should have empathy for people who don’t have a convenience of a car and have to walk 1 mile to a location. Empathy for not having a luxury convenience (car)??? This world is fucked if people think just walking is something we should be empathetic over.

People are gonna be annoyed there is no meat but will just eat 100 beyond burgers a week from MCDonalds via Uber Eats instead, while waiting for NEW MARVEL ADVENTURE with POWERFUL WAHMEN as they wear their “I love science! BAZINGA!” Tshirt while holding their Fury Trap Queen My Little Pony Plushi.

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FightingTeuton 4 points ago +4 / -0

Excellent comment

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BillDBlasiosBlackSon 3 points ago +3 / -0

One part of me wants to tell you men don't tale their food being messed with. The other side lost all hope a while ago.

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ThisTrainHasNoBrakes 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yes, and it was around 10%.

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motoford 47 points ago +47 / -0

Nice try but Psaki has already told us that these costs will not be passed on to the consumer. /s

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HKgoneWild 4 points ago +4 / -0

Gotta wonder if she got some lessons in economics with that degree of hers. She obviously didn't pay attention.

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ShrikeDeCil 5 points ago +5 / -0

Sure she did.

The modern versions of monetary theories/Keynes/etc all rely on "What we convince them of is the reality they live!"

So. We'll be fed shit, and she'll be telling us it's steak.

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odiChamp 2 points ago +2 / -0

Psaki's Advanced Mathemagics

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HKgoneWild 1 point ago +1 / -0

Could also be rolled into another class: government statistics.

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TrumpTrainChoooChoo2 39 points ago +40 / -1

You will eat bugs and you will like it.

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Teqsan 38 points ago +38 / -0

If the price of the meat does the same in store, a nice $14.99/lb. steak goes to $81.25/lb. That’s a whole lot of money for something that still has to be cooked at home. And the steaks at a decent steakhouse that are already $28, for profit margins to keep them in business will probably be more like $120-$150 for a steak. There goes the ability to eat alone and have a drink and steak in peace for $50. That will most likely be a solo food bill for $200 for a single meal. There went a months worth of groceries for a single person all on one meal.

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CAPTAIN_TENDY_PLATE2 26 points ago +26 / -0

I'm not exactly sure the mechanism as to why -if it's just shortages, covid restrictions shutting shit down, or a bunch of other stuff... But I've already seen this happen to some foods in my area.

Just a year ago, even during the covid nonsense, I bought and cooked a bunch of crablegs for a get together at my house. They were in the neighborhood of $18-22 a pack, depending on the weight.

I went to the grocery store last week and happened to look at them...

Fucking $68 for the same exact size pack.

Steak/hamburger is going up, too. I've seen about a $3 increase on those products. I used to be able to get hamburger for about 4.80/lb. Now it's nearly 8 dollars. If you get the really cheap stuff, it's still about 6-6.50/lb.

This is on top of the other random items that just keep disappearing from the shelf, that haven't returned or haven't returned in a very timely manner since this started.

My grocery bill for a week, for just myself, used to be around 50 bucks. If I wanted to eat good for a week, around 70-80 bucks.

Now? I'm spending 130-140 a week every week, just getting basic shit. Some sandwich meat, fresh vegetables, bread, some meat to cook, some frozen stuff for snacks, and some water, gatorade, milk and tea.

I'm trying my best now to stretch my grocery purchases out to a week and a half or two weeks.

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Mega_MAGA 13 points ago +13 / -0

I just bought a whole beef from the rancher. It came to $3.50 lb. After processing. Net 600 lbs in the freezer

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SorosHasBallsackEyes 9 points ago +9 / -0

I have been doing the same. Split a steer between myself and a buddy so I don't need two deep freezers. Repeat. Best meat I have ever had.

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Joe_Snow 3 points ago +3 / -0

Holy shit how do I find this? What am I looking for? "Beef processor?"

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Mega_MAGA 6 points ago +6 / -0

Look for local beef ranchers. If you buy directly from them they usually have a butcher they use. It's called "custom" processing. You don't have to pay for the USDA inspection fee. All packages will be labeled "not for resale".

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Joe_Snow 3 points ago +3 / -0

Holy shit I bet its fucking delicious too

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FliesTheFlag 9 points ago +9 / -0

Psst but there is no inflation according to Biden! Prices are absolutely ridiculous and pay wages wont keep up with it at all.

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MustangManny 9 points ago +9 / -0

Not to mention the size of the products are getting smaller. Even bars of soap are shrinking.

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Titanium 9 points ago +9 / -0

obligatory 'this is your waistline on communism'

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notCIA 7 points ago +7 / -0

I saw maybe a dollar per pound increase in my favorite black angus ribeyes across this whole plandemic. About two months ago I go to buy one and they are more expensive by over 30% overnight. A 17 dollar steak was now 26 bucks just out of the blue.

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spezisapedo2 7 points ago +7 / -0

There went a months worth of groceries for a single person all on one meal.

The good news is that the price of other groceries can go up too!!!!! Get ready to eat fake meat and frozen vegtables

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becky21k1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Worse than that, nobody will pay that, so places will go out of business.

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poopsalad 17 points ago +19 / -2

looks like veal is on the menu bois

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IamDevo 121 points ago +121 / -0

If this is true the entire bill needs to be shredded.

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DickTick 81 points ago +81 / -0

Obviously it's true.... It's been talked about for a week now and there are pictures of the wording and page itself floating around..... There is tons of shit in there like this

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_Sully_ 65 points ago +65 / -0

The bill needs to die. Seriously, and not just because of expensive steak. It, by itself, would crash the market. It's like a pending death sentence to the country and purely meant to fuck with our head. These people are sadist and need to be--voted out and put in the naughty corner.

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TheTerroracist 39 points ago +40 / -1

Call me crazy, but I don't REALLY think you meant "voted out."

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_Sully_ 33 points ago +33 / -0

I wanted that part to be filled-in by the beholders imagination.

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Rope_Tree_Journalist 14 points ago +14 / -0

I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.

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FormerGraveheart 6 points ago +6 / -0

Not painkillers. Stimulants, so they can't pass out. This is what the cartels do.

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pepperonishoes 6 points ago +6 / -0

Have you thought about a book series? This could be interesting.

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jerrycan111 5 points ago +5 / -0

Just keep epi pens on hand. They wont pass out

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_Sully_ 3 points ago +3 / -0

hmm that is one option for sure.

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BidenLikesMiners 14 points ago +14 / -0

I want a patriotic party that will automatically VOTE NO on any bill that is longer than a more reasonable 10-15 pages. If its not hundreds of pages, then senators will actually know what they're voting on. If they dont know then we're not being represented at all.

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HKgoneWild 7 points ago +7 / -0

That's intentional on their part. No matter how you vote on it, they have something to hold over you come election time

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HKgoneWild 5 points ago +5 / -0

As long as the naughty corner is a hatch over a wood chipper, sure.

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Joe_Snow 3 points ago +3 / -0

need to be--voted out and put in the naughty corner.

Dirtnap't

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Junionthepipeline 3 points ago +3 / -0

Its disturbing no reps from agricultural states are saying anything

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QLARP 23 points ago +24 / -1

I know the Oklahoma rep that first posted about it in Facebook.

It's not in the $1.5 infrastructure bill it's in the $3.5 trillion budget bill that the AZ and West Virginia senators won't vote for.

It taxes you if you have a factory or gasoline production refinery that releases methane.

The Oklahima rep said, "if they can tax methane release what will be next? Taxing cows? After all they release methane also!"

Then boom it spread like wild fire.

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IamDevo 14 points ago +14 / -0

There's so much going on that its getting hard to keep up. Thanks for confirming.

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npc_1234 9 points ago +9 / -0

For example, they want to double the cigarette tax. Yes, smoking is unhealthy, but close to $20 a pack in already expensive states is asinine.

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0815 5 points ago +6 / -1

Tobacco grows real nice in most if the US. Probably better for you than the industrial stuff anyways. I am not saying it is really good for you.

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Isolated_Patriot 7 points ago +8 / -1

The other things they put in the cigarettes' are FAR worse for you or anyone who happens to breath it, than pure tobacco.

Smoking tobacco itself actually has some health benefits, and as someone who hates the smell of cigarettes, it's not nearly as bad to be around a pipe smoker, or even someone who rolls their own.

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FireannDireach 2 points ago +3 / -1

That cracks me up. It's not about your health, that's just grabbing for any dollar they can - a lot of states rely on the tobacco taxes, as part of the massive settlement the tobacco industry made back in the day - states like CA NEED those taxes, so they only fight against people smoking so much, to keep those taxes rolling in. This is the Fed going, "Well, if they'll pay $8 a pack, that means they'll pay anything, so let's get in on that action!"

This is after they destroyed the vaping industry, which had they just taxed, they could be rolling in tax income, but nooooooo, big tobacco and the politicians know better, and killed all of it. (If you weren't aware, it's now illegal to ship nicotine and anything vaping related by USPS, Fed Ex or any other carriers.) (But you can order Nicorette and patches online.)

Honk, etc...

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HKgoneWild 1 point ago +1 / -0

Legislative-imposed morality. They will tax you for existing, and if you step out of line of their view, they will tax you 5 fold. Speak out against them? Well, we've seen what the IRS did to conservative groups under obummer.

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kestral 33 points ago +33 / -0

It's not 100% accurate but it's close.

The bill is proposing a tax on methane emissions, not cows specifically. Someone calculated the rate of emissions from a cow and extrapolated the $2600/$6500 numbers.

Democrats say that the methane tax will only apply to oil and gas producers and not agriculture. But Republicans proposed an amendment to specifically exempt agriculture and Democrats voted it down.

So right now there's only the Democrat's word that they won't apply it to agriculture, and we know how much that's worth.

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BehindTheSatan 18 points ago +19 / -1

Oil is already outrageous. This is insanity to tax it more. This will raise the cost of food and feed the inflation cycle.

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Junionthepipeline 2 points ago +2 / -0

Democrats hate good jobs and working people

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RedditAdminsRFascist 4 points ago +5 / -1

I don’t trust them to not abuse this law but for now your comment should be at the top

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user2020 3 points ago +3 / -0

Upvoted for truth. More information on the extrapolated estimate:

Meredith Blanford, Mullin's communications director, said in an email the claim in the congressman's column was based on an analysis conducted by the American Farm Bureau Federation. She cited a statement from the group that calculated the rough $2,600 and $6,500 figures based on the fee proposed in the reconciliation bill, as well as the amount of methane produced by the livestock sector.

"This is what could happen if the methane fee were applied to agriculture," Blanford said. "Right now the text of the bill only specifies the oil and gas industry, but it also references EPA’s (greenhouse gas) inventory and leaves too much room for the EPA to expand its regulatory reach."

source: https://archive.is/9akHa#selection-961.0-968.0

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HKgoneWild 2 points ago +2 / -0

The people love the ATF and their arbitrary and capricious overnight rule changes made by unelected bureaucracy. We should apply that same status to all federal agencies. Cause having the enforcing agency make the rules is absolutely not against the spirit of the constitution and having 3 branches of government. /Sarcasm

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AraphelEinSof 26 points ago +28 / -2

None of the reasons they give are why. Those reasons are all lies. The war is between God and the Fallen. They serve Baal, Lucifer, and Moloch. This is worship.

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Standingoak 13 points ago +13 / -0

Still needs to be stopped, ....EITHER WAY...

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covok48 -35 points ago +4 / -39

Ok Q. Whatever you say.

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Perziant0ker 24 points ago +27 / -3

Are people still making these stupid ass comments to people who mention nothing re: "q"?

You are the worst kind of faggot. Attempting to sew division in your own ranks. Get lost.

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covok48 -4 points ago +1 / -5

You are not mentally well. Hence you run back to the Pseudo-spirituality every time real life gets too tough.

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Perziant0ker 22 points ago +22 / -0

Oh ok now I see your post history. Hey faggot, youre glowing pretty bright over there.

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FormerGraveheart 5 points ago +7 / -2

The fact that the mods do nothing about these shills that are overrunning this place is a bigger and bigger problem every day.

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covok48 -4 points ago +2 / -6

Wah someone said something I don’t like online. Better ban him!

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FormerGraveheart 4 points ago +4 / -0

You aren't one of us, so yes, ban you.

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Poopybuttboy 11 points ago +11 / -0

If, after 2020 till present, you still haven't figured out there is an ongoing spiritual war for your mind and soul, you are a lost cause.

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covok48 -3 points ago +1 / -4

Ok u/Poopybuttboy I’m sure God approves of your username.

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ShitOfPeace 4 points ago +4 / -0

They think the world is ending within the next century due to climate change.

No they don't. They're still buying coastal properties in Martha's Vineyard.

They don't believe sea levels will swallow up the coast even though they tell everyone that.

It's all an excuse.

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IroWide 16 points ago +16 / -0

Everything congress has passed in the last thirteen years needs to be shredded. All they do is legislate more restrictions, taxes and regulations on our lives that only make everything twice the hassle it already was. Conservatives? No, we have Democrats and Delayers. Our politicians conserve nothing.

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AllTheWayTrump 6 points ago +6 / -0

They conserve their own power.

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Myzlplix 7 points ago +7 / -0

Along with the people that think it’s a good idea

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hillarysdildont 66 points ago +66 / -0

This is how you create a black market. Fun fact: the original Caribbean “buccaneers” were wild hog hunters who smoked, cured and sold the meat. They realized their hunting armaments, their grit, and their fast sloop boats were all that was needed to overwhelm cargo, treasure and merchant ships on the Spanish Main (imaginary line between Florida and S America where all Spanish treasure ships traveled on their return to the govt. mint in Seville).

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cnn_can_dox_my_balls 30 points ago +30 / -0

buccaneer (n.)

"piratical rover on the Spanish coast," 1680s; earlier "one who roasts meat on a boucan" (1660s), from French boucanier "a pirate; a curer of wild meats, a user of a boucan," a native grill for roasting meat, from Tupi mukem (rendered in Portuguese as moquem c. 1587): "initial b and m are interchangeable in the Tupi language" [Klein] (the Haitian variant, barbacoa, became barbecue).

huh TIL

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Poopybuttboy 10 points ago +10 / -0

It's boucan bacon?? Lol

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cnn_can_dox_my_balls 17 points ago +17 / -0

Yes, they are baconeers

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tiamat 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hm interesting

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based_trekkie 7 points ago +7 / -0

Moo-Leggers

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Phaedrus_Wolfe 2 points ago +2 / -0

Burt Reynolds would have a field day - Smokey and the Bandit running hogs.

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VoteCyborgTrump2040 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ragnar Danneskjold incoming?

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OoooJackieBlue 66 points ago +66 / -0

Cows? What Cows? They all identify as jackalopes.

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JMaN 18 points ago +18 / -0

Checkmate

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Standingoak 12 points ago +12 / -0

What cow inspector ?

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JMaN 7 points ago +7 / -0

Anna Navarro.

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Standingoak 5 points ago +5 / -0

Never saw her in these parts musta got lost.

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citizen667 5 points ago +5 / -0

Cow inspector went on a fishing trip last I heard.

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HKgoneWild 1 point ago +1 / -0

Guess he took a long walk off of a short pier.

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FireannDireach 8 points ago +8 / -0

"Cows? Pardner, that there is no cow. That's a bona fide short haired prairie buffalo. Which is a protected species, so I'd take it kindly if'n you'd remove your city slickster Federal ass from my property, so I don't have to drive all the way back to the house for my shotgun. It's only fair to give you fair warning' before I fire."

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HKgoneWild 2 points ago +2 / -0

Feds don't fight fair. See the classics such as the Waco incident and ruby ridge. For more modern hits just look at no knock raids and their screwups on that line.

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TeeBP 44 points ago +44 / -0

Eat the bugs motherfucker

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Dirk_Diggler 21 points ago +21 / -0

Snowpiercer.

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AraphelEinSof 13 points ago +13 / -0

That was Sunday breakfast with inlaws compared to what's coming.

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joebama-smells 20 points ago +20 / -0

This needs to be pushed on the normies. They're the ones not willing to be ungovernable over the systematic destruction of our food supply. Throw their propaganda in their face. Go up to a soccer mom "What's wrong with eating bugs? Spiders, centipedes, roaches, yum! I can't believe we used to eat steaks and hamburgers."

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Standingoak 9 points ago +9 / -0

Hunger will make them ungovernable, you will lead them.

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Filetsmignon 5 points ago +5 / -0

Fat ass gut hanging cellulite treasure trail of lard waterfall over the groin and ass useless shit-normies that can't put down the fat-fried garbage super sized meal are gonna wake up....not. They're useless idiots.

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wharfthrowaway 5 points ago +5 / -0

Useless eaters

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MAGA1775 44 points ago +44 / -0

That's the goal....put small farmers out of business so that large monopoly corporations can completely own farming.

Just like they did with the COVID schemes where they put over 200,000 small businesses out of business, meanwhile major corporations had record profits and billionaires made over $3 trillion.

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8bit_mixtape 6 points ago +6 / -0

They can't own if those corporations suddenly stopped existing.

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impera 42 points ago +42 / -0

All tax is supposed to be a quid pro quo. What service is the government going to be doing for every dairy cow worth thousands of dollars every year, and who will be doing all this work? Massage therapy, hoof cleaning, coat brushing and tail cleaning? Are they going to send kamala around to serenade them?

Cattle-rustling in all but name. Go fuck yourselves with this 'fee'

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spezisapedo2 12 points ago +12 / -0

they are "preserving the climate" .... DUH.

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PraiseBeToScience 1 point ago +3 / -2

If CO2 was the case, I'd frankly rather just preserve the climate by blowing up all factories in the second and third world and saying "You all live in caves now" and we continue to live normally.

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yudsfpbc 41 points ago +41 / -0

For comparison, here in East Texas, a good cow is $1300. If that cow gives us a calf, I can sell it for about $500. If everything goes right, we may break even with our expenses.

$2600 a year is just absurd. I have 30 cows, and there is no way I am paying $78,000 a year.

That's the type of thing we'd start shooting feferal agents over.

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notCIA 17 points ago +17 / -0

I've seen this kind of talk a lot and I'm wondering how you turn a profit if the raising of the cow, and potentially one calf only breaks even for you?

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yudsfpbc 9 points ago +9 / -0

You don't.

There are those who are able to make money doing it, but most aren't. Cattle is more about keeping traditions alive, getting outdoors, and maintaining land.

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Jeffersonian_Man 6 points ago +6 / -0

Some people have a hard time understanding there are some professions done out of a love for the work and not entirely driven by greed. One of my biggest issues with the capitalism VS communism debate. They seek to solve most issues with economics.

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yudsfpbc 5 points ago +5 / -0

Cows are worth, to me, much more than money. It keeps me from depression, fir starters.

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notCIA 1 point ago +1 / -0

I can definitely appreciate that. I lived on a small "farm" when I was younger and our costs were definitely low compared to what we got out of goats and chickens. We had about 85 acres that we rented to a guy for grazing cattle. I know there was upkeep on fences and whatnot. Do they need fed throughout the year? Is there a lot of overhead in vet visits and stuff too? I'm interested in getting some property and animals soon and I'd love to have 2 or 3 head to look after if it is reasonable.

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yudsfpbc 1 point ago +1 / -0

You won't lose much doing cows. You won't earn much either. You only need to feed them in late summer or late winter if you don't have enough grass. You always supplement minerals. You may need protein if they are eating hay or dry grass.

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spezisapedo2 2 points ago +2 / -0

i hope you dont have dogs

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ragtimesongs 1 point ago +1 / -0

?

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wharfthrowaway 2 points ago +2 / -0

He’s referencing the habit of feds to shoot people’s dogs

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ragtimesongs 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ah

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HKgoneWild 1 point ago +1 / -0

ATF sad face awww shucks that was our thing though

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OhioRock3 32 points ago +33 / -1

I assume Farmers will just stop selling to stores and go direct to the consumer

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BurtReynolds 0 points ago +2 / -2

It’s a lot harder than you think. Regulation makes it near impossible.

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Patriot3976 8 points ago +8 / -0

I would hope we see the death of all regulation before a 550% increase on food prices.

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Junionthepipeline 2 points ago +2 / -0

Mabey after

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3IsNotB33 5 points ago +5 / -0

No its not. I buy a 1/4 cow every 6-10 months directly from a rancher @ 2.00/lb who then sends it to a local butcher who processes it into the cuts that I want @ 0.50/lb.

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BillDBlasiosBlackSon 0 points ago +1 / -1

Ban all carrier's from shipping it like they did with vaping. Not perfect, but that's pretty effective.

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3IsNotB33 1 point ago +1 / -0

I go directly to the rancher. There is no shipping involved. Instead of farmers/ranchers going to market they could just go local and/or make ppl come to them. Cash only or barter. You make it sound like government involvement is somehow integral to the transaction.

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BillDBlasiosBlackSon 0 points ago +1 / -1

No no, that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that when they have authority over what can ship or not, also known as interstate commerce, they can't outright ban anything, but they can make it VERY hard to purchase.

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Abovethefray 30 points ago +30 / -0

Bernie Sanders, Pete Buttigig, Kamala Harris, Joe Biden are in charge. America teeters on the edge of destruction...

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DickTick 32 points ago +33 / -1

More like Obamas lackies are in charge.....

I guarantee you Susan Rice is at the very top of the pile.

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GeoG85 11 points ago +11 / -0

The Swamp is trying to push charge.

Being in actual charge, has actual people believing in you.

They have no belief behind them.

Who were the identified Swamp members? John Kerry, Mitt Romney, The CLintons, the Pelosis. They identifed more members but meh. George Soros, Bill Gates, where do they fit in? The Chinese Regime as well?

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freedom_loving_angel 30 points ago +31 / -1

I don't know if you guys understand the severity of this, but this is what communists do - creating artificial crises in all areas they can get their tentacles on.

There are quotes of famous communist leaders from Yugoslavia stating exactly this - "our goal is to create as much as misery as possible, because that's the only way people will join us - when they're so miserable they will turn to us for help."

Do NOT make mistakes - they've just started. And stop dreaming about "parallel society" - that can never happen, exactly because of strategy like this one - oh, you have a cow that's untagged meaning that you didn't pay gazillion dollars of taxes for it? We confiscate it and/or shoot it on spot. Same goes for any type of food you think you can grow "off the grid".

Don't be naïve/fool yourself just because the truth is too difficult to bear.

We either shred them to pieces, or they will shred us. There is no in between.

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Patriot3976 11 points ago +11 / -0

I will gladly kill anyone who would enforce that without a moments hesitation.

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Scumbag-reddit 27 points ago +27 / -0

It's the "you will eat the bugs" meme coming to fruition.

The world is bountiful and plentiful; without corrupt governments most would prosper. Every crisis you see is manufactured.

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brundlefly777 7 points ago +7 / -0

Incredible. It really is just as fucked up as it seems--and worse.

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Freyjaschild 21 points ago +21 / -0

It's a vegans wet dream.

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papa_newguineapig 21 points ago +21 / -0

Fucking faggots

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TerraHertz 20 points ago +20 / -0

You have to ask yourself if the Dems trying to eliminate cattle farming could be, you know, related to some OTHER plan.

I realized something recently. Once the Vax's designed-in slow kill via CJD gets going in a few years, the MSM will have to push some made-up story about why everyone is dying of CJD. (Not mentioning the covid vax campaign years ago.) They'll have to have some 'cause' that can appear both plausible, and an accident.

How do you get CJD? By eating impropperly cooked meat (protein) that contains Prions (misfolded proteins.)

Now what are the Elites pushing at the moment? That we must all stop eating meat. Biden is trying to effectively ban beef and pork. What are we to eat for protein instead? Notice the Elites keep talking about everyone eating bugs and liking it? So, they want EVERYONE to switch to some mass-produced meat/protein substitute. (Bug-goop) That will require industrial scale food processing. A perfect patsy.

And then... "oh whoops, there must have been an honest goof in the bug-goop production process, and now everyone has incurable CJD and will die horribly. Who could possibly have forseen that? Certainly not us Elites, we had nothing whatsoever to do with it. Also it's strange that we can't identify the actual goof or the bad bug-goop batches, but look, it MUST have been that. What else could it have been? You can only get CJD from contaminated protein in food..."

How ironic. They wanted us to believe in future we were dying from eating bugs. But in reality the Elites are going to die themselves, because of bugs. Bugs in the coding of their murderous kill-vax, that result in many people dying rapidly and visibly rather than mysteriously in several years time. So too many people realised the vax is deadly, and now there is a large unvaxxed 'control group'. A fact that will make things very clear to everone once the vaxxed start dying in really vast numbers, and live births from vaxxed couples plummet to near zero.

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EdmondDaunts 10 points ago +10 / -0

The only problem is just as many vegetarians died on CJD as did meat eaters. Yes you can get it from meat in a very very rare case but you can also get misfolded proteins in your system from other causes, some genetic.

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TerraHertz 6 points ago +6 / -0

All those vegetarian cannibals eating raw brains and dying of Kuru (which is CJD.)

All those cows dying of Mad Cow Disease (CJD) because ag-industry started grinding up dead cows and adding that protein (uncooked) to livestock feed. Result: epidemic of mad cow disease.

And people who ate poorly cooked beef from a diseased cow, got CJD. iirc this was he major (or only) way anyone ever got CJD in the West.

Please provide source for 'meat is a very very rare way to get CJD.'

Anyway, you seem to have missed my point. But wait and see. I predict the 'bug protein' food of the future (whatever it is) will not react well to heat, and it will be marketted as needing very little or no cooking.

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Junionthepipeline 1 point ago +1 / -0

Didnt help it that the inspectors tracked that shit all over fuck

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EdmondDaunts 1 point ago +1 / -0

The point about meat being a rare way to get CJD was badly worded. What I menat to say is that meat consumption against cases of CJD show that the chances of getting it from meat is very very rare.

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TerraHertz 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh I see, you don't understand the detail that cooking meat breaks down all prion proteins into harmless forms. One can only catch CJD from very poorly cooked or raw meat (that came from an animal with CJD.). So getting CJD from properly cooked meat isn't 'very very rare', it's actually impossible.

However, eat insufficiently cooked meat contaminated with prions, and you pretty much definitely are going to get CJD.

My instincts say that the prion-like components of the mRNA 'vax' spike protein, are the actual bioweapon, the primary intended kill vector. I think the plan was that everyone taking the vax would die of CJD over an extended timeframe, let's say 3 to 4 years. People dying sooner than that of clots and heart failure, are due to the 'bioweapon' being a shitty rushed design (made in China) that had zero or very little actual testing. So it is full of bugs and unintended harmful side effects.

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remindmelater 19 points ago +19 / -0

They're trying to destroy this country....So if you took the vax you can't breastfeed your baby and milk will be way too expensive....

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Toollespaulhero 19 points ago +19 / -0

Dude they’re going to shoot that baby up with the vax the second it pops out anyway.

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Gurren_Laggan 20 points ago +20 / -0

NYC won't let you take your baby from the NICU unless you're vaxxed now. These people are satanic.

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Major_Nutt 6 points ago +6 / -0

I'd like a motherfucker to try and stop me .

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BadManOrange 6 points ago +7 / -1

Cow milk isn't usually given to infants until they hit 1 year old. The animal substitute for breast milk is usually goat milk, but that's uncommon to find, so formula is really the only option.

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remindmelater 5 points ago +5 / -0

good point....but I'm sure they'll find a way to tax that into oblivion.....

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nickybops 14 points ago +14 / -0

Soviets in the end won the Cold war.

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DivvyDivet 18 points ago +19 / -1

All of this stems from giving up freedoms due to 9/11. Bin Laden won the moment the Patriot act became law.

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WhiskeyTwoNine 16 points ago +17 / -1

The elites won as soon as they hired Bin Laden to take the fall for 9/11.

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Bruder 7 points ago +7 / -0

This guy fucks.

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ColonelTravis 4 points ago +4 / -0

If it’s true that he was terminally ill from renal disease, there would be no reason for him to not take the fall. Hell, it would be a gift.

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CA4Newscum 3 points ago +3 / -0

What makes you think he isn't with his 72 virgins on Epstein island, along with jeff.

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JackOfDiamonds 10 points ago +10 / -0

Get ready for some black market cow breeding. They'll keep them indoors and feed them corn meal or whatever.

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ItsFunToSay-M-A-G-A 6 points ago +6 / -0

Moo-shiners!

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FucKamala 10 points ago +10 / -0

Orrrrr they could just NOT pay up and shoot trespassers looking to get a count of their property

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jjffiiippp 5 points ago +5 / -0

It works better if you learn how to convert the property from real estate back to land. Connecting the chain of title back to the constitutional provision for land is one way.

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Isolated_Patriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wait, what?

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GrayManNumber333 9 points ago +9 / -0

And make milk more expensive. Kids need milk, babies need formula.

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Aluminoti 9 points ago +9 / -0

Skirt steak at supermarket near me $28 a lb. Not even a butcher shop just a supermarket, Im thinking who the fuck is paying $28 for skirt steak that shit will rot on the shelves

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BidenLuvMiners 5 points ago +5 / -0

Where do u live bro theres no prices like that anywhere ive seen

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BadManOrange 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'm in the Northeast and Choice Ribeye is under $20 per pound (still expensive). Who in earth is charging $28 for skirt steak?

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CannonballJunior 9 points ago +9 / -0

According to both the National Cattlemen's Beef Association, and the American Farm Bureau Federation, the proposed methane tax legislation doesn't apply to livestock, but rather to the oil & gas industry (WHICH IS BAD ENOUGH!). The tax figures on livestock were a theoretical calculation by the American Farm Bureau Federation of what it would cost if this STUPID methane tax legislation were to target livestock.

Of course there's no question the Left would like to apply methane taxes to livestock production in the future. Nobody should doubt that. That's why House Pubs have wisely tried to introduce amendments that would forbid this tax being applied to livestock in the future.

For now at least, it appears the Left don't yet have the nerve to go that far. Again, the methane tax on oil & gas is PLENTY BAD ENOUGH and that proposal is real NOW!

[https://www.agri-pulse.com/articles/16568-ncba-farm-bureau-say-reconciliation-bill-wont-tax-cattle-pig-emissions]

The $3.5 trillion reconciliation package approved by the House Budget Committee last weekend includes a methane tax provision targeted at the oil and gas industry. The text of the bill contains a fee of $1,500 per ton of methane emitted by petroleum and natural gas facilities.

But recent comments by some House Republicans led to a concern among some producers that the provision would result in a tax of $6,500 per dairy cow, $2,600 per beef cow, and $500 per pig.

Last week, Rep. Markwayne Mullin, R-Okla., used those figures in a column on his website decrying the Democrats' budget reconciliation package, saying the taxes would “run ranchers out of business.” Republicans earlier used the House Energy and Commerce Committee's deliberations on the legislation to push amendments intended to ensure farmers and ranchers would be exempted from such a tax. Mullin is a member of the committee.

The issue stems from an analysis conducted by the American Farm Bureau Federation that has been used by GOP members of Congress in their opposition to the methane tax. Sam Kieffer, AFBF’s vice president for public affairs, said in a statement the economic analysis was requested by congressional committee staff “to determine the potential impact if agriculture were to be included in legislation imposing such a tax.

“We did so based on the formula set forth in legislative proposals that impose a methane tax on the oil and gas sectors,” he said. “We believe this analysis was informative and helpful in demonstrating that such a tax would have been devastating to agriculture.”

Kieffer also noted “the current language of the reconciliation bill does not impose a methane tax on agriculture.”

Danielle Beck, a senior executive director of government affairs with the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association, agreed that the existing language in the bill “would not grant EPA the authority to impose fees on any industry not referenced in that specific provision.”

According to Benjamin Zycher, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, the provision would “impose a ‘fee’ on methane emissions from natural gas and petroleum systems and related process, but not on such emissions from agricultural and other operations.”

Kieffer said AFBF is “grateful to lawmakers for recognizing the thin margins in agriculture and that such a tax would undoubtedly put family farms out of business. We are especially grateful to the Senate for passing an amendment that specifically exempts agriculture.”

For more news, go to [www.Agri-Pulse.com].

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PraiseBeToScience 2 points ago +3 / -1

That's great and all but the bottom line is that a shitload of people are straight fucking lying on this site and on other sites because being angry is more important than being factual.

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CannonballJunior 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's why I posted what I did. To make clear the OP is false.

I've been complaining for several weeks about the increased amount of fake news and other horseshit being posted here. There's always gonna be a bit of that stuff, but it's gotten much worse the last couple months. Guess mods are too busy to deal with it. lol

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PraiseBeToScience 1 point ago +1 / -0

I tried pointing out that the "red flag law" in the NDAA wasn't actually a red flag law (it's only very vaguely similar... Basically if you are charged with a violent sex crime and a restraining order us granted, then you lose guns... Clearly fairly different from the "thought crime" that is an ERPO) and all anyone did was get mad.

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CannonballJunior 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't think enough people understand how bad info damages our cause and hurts us in winning public opinion. And Lord knows the Bad Info Gang have recently been working overtime. It's frustrating. We have enough to fight already without also having to fight those supposedly on our side. lol Maybe some of them aren't on our side.

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HKgoneWild 1 point ago +1 / -0

For now.... Do you trust them not to change their mind and "reassess" this to apply to farmers later?

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CannonballJunior 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you read what I wrote above the link, you'll see the answer to your question.

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lenchodahated 9 points ago +9 / -0

universities and liberal art schools should have to pay the government for every fat cow they have on campus then

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TrumpTrain45 8 points ago +8 / -0

So every burger restaurant is about to close because nobody is gonna pay $30 for one

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Farage_massage 8 points ago +8 / -0

Then the farmers have to sell the land to the Chinks and Bill gates who then control all ag supply (and of course who don’t have to adhere to the rules).

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Odinius 8 points ago +8 / -0

Who in their right mind would even pay such a tax?

It can’t even be legal...

The brothers on mountain men got themselves 40 cattle, now they owe $104,000?

Doesn’t make any sense.

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QLARP 5 points ago +7 / -2

It's a tax on methane emissions of oil and gas industry. Some Oklahoma rep just made up the per cow part.

It's a noble white lie to take down a evil bill.

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Junionthepipeline 3 points ago +3 / -0

Lotta oil jobs will get wiped out in Oklahoma.

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QLARP 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah it's a retarded tax and regulation.

But every time they try a methane bill some staffer always puts out a statement about beef or cows.

It's retarded. I think it's mostly to stick it to lefties that were obsessed with methane from cows in the 90s

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phzoe 8 points ago +8 / -0

Commies attacking Kulaks again.

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SHILL_DETECTOR 6 points ago +7 / -1

Thats decent?

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residue69 4 points ago +5 / -1

Damn!

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poopsalad 3 points ago +5 / -2

have you never had a5 wagyu? bruh you're missing out. if you are in a wasting money kind of mood, go for it, it's heavenly

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PraiseBeToScience 1 point ago +2 / -1

I've always wanted to try it but the prices to proportions make me think it's on the bad side of value. Like if I could eat one wagyu ribeye versus ten normal ribeyes, I think I'm gonna go with ten.

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SHILL_DETECTOR 1 point ago +2 / -1

Ive had some i think, its almost too fatty, melts in your mouth

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QLARP 1 point ago +2 / -1

They let the cows gorge on food until they get fat as fuck then have workers give them massages.

It's a bit pretentious.

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TheDUFF 4 points ago +4 / -0

There’s a lot of myths around Japanese cattle, most are false. It really just comes down to genetics

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poopsalad 0 points ago +1 / -1

Yup straight melts in your mouth I love it

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Major_Nutt 3 points ago +3 / -0

OP: "You guys ready to pay $60,000 for a Chevy Cobalt?"

You: "It has come to my attention that you guys are unaware of Lexus"

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Based45 6 points ago +6 / -0

Anyone got the original sauce for this?

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QLARP 4 points ago +5 / -1

"In an attempt to eliminate fossil fuels, this legislation would impose a “fee” on all methane emissions, including in our agriculture industry."

So it's a bill trying to attack the oil industry and this rep just assumes it may effect cows also. That was a waste of time to read.

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residue69 8 points ago +8 / -0

Why wouldn't they apply a "fee" on all methane emissions to all methane emissions?

They'll have a hard time collecting on methane emissions from volcanoes and glaciers, though.

Volcanoes and glaciers combine as powerful methane producers

Markwayne Mullins does seem to have something wrong with him.

RINO Congressman Markwayne Mullin HUGGED Ashli Babbitt’s Murderer — Told Him He “Did the Right Thing”

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PraiseBeToScience 0 points ago +2 / -2

Why wouldn't they

If you're going to play that game, why the fuck even waste time with writing any of this shit down?

What's written in the bill is what's written in the bill. And no, they aren't even to the level of just saying 'You owe a tax on that now because I said so, no it's written nowhere'.

So you're mad at something that actually isn't real, as written, nor will it be real as-passed.

Again, you're arguing with your own imagination. What the fuck happened to everybody on this site? Did the election give you all derangement?

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QLARP 0 points ago +1 / -1

If you look at the section of the bill it says oil, gas and agriculture release of methane.

It doesn't say this amount of money will be taxed for every cow.

It doesn't even make sense. 40 cows would be taxed at $400,000

That's more then they pay in taxes in a year on everything else on the farm.

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residue69 7 points ago +7 / -0

Agricultural methane and its role as a greenhouse gas

The biggest source of agricultural methane emissions is enteric fermentation, which is the digestive process by which microbes in the guts of ruminant livestock break down plant matter, enabling it to be absorbed into the animals’ bloodstream, and producing methane as a by-product. Almost 30% of total anthropogenic methane in 2012, or about two thirds of the agricultural total, is from this source. Significant amounts of methane are also emitted where rice is grown in flooded paddies (11% total anthropogenic methane in 2012), where the anaerobic conditions facilitate microbial methane-generation similarly to natural wetlands. A third major source of agricultural methane emissions arises from losses of organic matter in manures (from both ruminant and non-ruminant livestock) (3% total anthropogenic methane in 2012), and a small amount of methane is emitted from the burning of agricultural wastes (0.5%).

They aren't going to apply the "fee" to growing rice.

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wethedownvoted 4 points ago +4 / -0

rice or pork -- you know, china's major foods

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QLARP 1 point ago +2 / -1

Wanna bet?

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residue69 3 points ago +3 / -0

Are you saying that the "fee" will only be applied to rice growing and not to animal emissions?

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TheDUFF 2 points ago +2 / -0

CORRECTION:USA Today said the tax is a methane tax on oil and gas that will not translate into any tax on cows.

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PraiseBeToScience 0 points ago +1 / -1

The most interesting part of that correction is that it means the shitlocks who wrote that article didn't even bother to read the bill itself.

This is like how I have to explain to everybody that the "Red flag law" in the NDAA is not actually a red flag law. I read the bill. Everybody else reads garbage-tier "news" sources that tell them what to be mad about.

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FreeNow 1 point ago +1 / -0

They aren't eliminating fossil fuels they are just getting us to import them from the Mideast and Russia. Unless they are suggesting tariffs on foriegn producers it is all about hurting us and helping others. Smells a little corrupt to me. But I'm sure the big guy gets his 10%.

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QLARP 0 points ago +1 / -1

It's a dumb law and regulation. Companies already capture their own methane to be more efficient.

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FreeNow 1 point ago +1 / -0

From the IEA 2020 Methane Tracker...

We estimate there were 82 Mt methane emissions from oil and gas operations in 2019, split in roughly equal parts between the two.

These emissions came from a wide variety of sources along the oil and gas value chains, from conventional and unconventional production, from the collection and processing of gas, as well as from its transmission and distribution to end-use consumers. Some emissions are accidental, for example because of a faulty seal or leaking valve, while others are deliberate, often carried out for safety reasons or due to the design of the facility or equipment.

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CommieCucker 6 points ago +6 / -0

They want to lower our testosterone

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MAGA_____bitches 5 points ago +5 / -0

That's almost 10 cents per cow fart

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FrankWisner 4 points ago +4 / -0

This bill will kill hundreds of politicians and political operators.

I say pass it now.

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rubmewithbeer 4 points ago +5 / -1

If this passes it will be crazy. I'm sure all the big fast food companies are lobbying against this. Or maybe they get to be exempt some how

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preferredfault 1 point ago +2 / -1

most of the meat in big fast food places are filled with fillers. This would barely affect their bottom line because meat makes up only a fraction of their burgers.

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QLARP 1 point ago +2 / -1

That's not true it's 80% usda beef and 20% fillers(bread crushed, water and spices)

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preferredfault -2 points ago +0 / -2

A single dollar menu mcdonalds burger is over 500 calories. A pound of 80% lean ground beef is about 1200 calories, and that's with all the fat. A lot of fat is lost in the process, meaning 1lb of real beef with the fat drained, can have significantly less calories.

Each patty of that mcdonalds burger is just 45 grams, or about 1/10th of a pound. That's like if you bought a single pound of ground beef and made it into 10 burgers. Anyone who makes their own burgers knows those would be some very small burgers. At that rate, the patty itself should only be 120 calories if it was 100% beef, let alone 80%. The buns also aren't massive in calories either. Of course there's other additives. But the point is, those other calories have to come from somewhere, and the bun + ketchup isn't bridging that calorie gap entirely. It's primarily in the patty, and it's sure as heck not beef, because beef by weight and fat content, has a maximum calorie density....and it's clearly being far exceeded.

The truth is, they are able to label things with very little beef, as a "100% beef" product. All they did was misdirect the whole thing. Before, they used to consider the whole burger as beef, even if it wasn't. Now they add that 20% filler, to distract from the fact that the 80% part itself is also massively full of fillers. So if anything, mcdonalds burgers have even less beef in them today.

On top of that, soy is in their cheese and condiments and buns, including soy oil in the patties themselves. Again, all they've done is segmented what is considered what. They can claim they don't have soy in their burgers, because it's "100% beef", while actually having soy in the oil that isn't considered as part of the patty, and that 100% beef not actually being 100% beef.

https://www.livestrong.com/article/366823-allergy-information-for-mcdonalds-products/

"As of January 2011, several McDonald's items contain soy or soy lecithin ingredients. This includes the Angus beef patty and seasoning, Big Mac bun and sauce, grilled chicken breast filet, honey wheat roll, liquid margarine, McRib bun, pasteurized process American cheese, regular bun, sautéed mushrooms, sesame seed bun, barbecue sauce, Sweet 'N Sour sauce, butter garlic croutons, candied walnuts, grilled chicken breast filet, Newman's Own Lowfat Family Recipe Italian Dressing, whipped margarine, bagel, biscuits, breakfast sauce, egg, folded egg, scrambled egg, English muffin, griddle cakes, hotcakes, low fat granola, hot fudge topping, Oreo Cookie pieces, baked hot apple pie, Cinnamon Melts, McDonaldland cookies, chocolate chip cookie, oatmeal raisin cookie, sugar cookie, ice cream cones and the chocolate drizzle. Those with an allergy to soy or soy lecithin should avoid these items."

This list might as well say "EVERYTHING contains soy". Regular bun means any burger you buy, you're getting soy. It's in the beef patty, it's in the chicken, it's in the sesame seed bun, it's in the pancakes, it's in everything. It's even in the salad and eggs.

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QLARP 2 points ago +3 / -1

Cool source but your claim that fast good burgers only have a fraction of beef is a lie.

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preferredfault -2 points ago +0 / -2

I've already proven it. We know the calorie density of the bun and condiments. That's like 160 calories. If the patty itself should only be 120 calories tops (if it was 100% beef), and the calorie of the entire burger is 500 calories, that's about 220 extra calories unaccounted for that have to be from the patty itself. Meaning the typical mcdonalds patty has about 3x the calories than a real 100% home made beef burger. That's the filler. And considering these patties have a fixed weight, and the patty itself can't be 100% beef with all those extra calories, well then it's clear that not even 50% of the burger is actually real beef.

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QLARP 2 points ago +2 / -0

You are doing some funny science math that you don't understand.

How much fat is in a McDonald's hamburger?

Nutrition Facts

Calories 300(1255 kJ)

Saturated Fat6 g30%

Trans Fat0.5 g

Cholesterol40 mg13%

Sodium680 mg28%

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rubmewithbeer 1 point ago +2 / -1

Yeah that makes sense, never thought about it that way

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sorrytodisagree 4 points ago +4 / -0

I don't care if this is a draft or expected to removed or "negotiated" to some tiny fraction. Whoever wrote and inserted this bullshit into the bill should be hunted down and staked over an anthill.

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NavySTG 3 points ago +3 / -0

Pity she doesn't reference the location in the bill where these things are.

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CannonballJunior 5 points ago +5 / -0

That's because they're not in the bill. The livestock tax figures are theoretical calculations done by the American Farm Bureau Federation on what would happen IF the proposed oil & gas methane tax were to be applied to livestock.

[https://www.agri-pulse.com/articles/16568-ncba-farm-bureau-say-reconciliation-bill-wont-tax-cattle-pig-emissions]

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TheDUFF 3 points ago +3 / -0

The source of this story has issued a correction. Stating that the methane tax they were referring to will only affect oil and natural gas, and will not place any tax on cattle.

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doug2 3 points ago +3 / -0

That's the idea

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BlackKat 3 points ago +3 / -0

Farmers can just identify their cows as transsexuals, then they will be protected.

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jjffiiippp 3 points ago +3 / -0

This cow is on hormone blockers pre-op trans bug.

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learntocode 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is China trying to make us like them. They have widespread famine every year in their less developed areas. They have massive levels of corruption and incompetence. They are masking these initiatives as "green" but they are intended to induce famine.

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crash7863 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's not China pulling the strings.

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Peep45 3 points ago +3 / -0

And just in time, as the fake meat comes out. And who owns that again?

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SALTYBALLS 3 points ago +3 / -0

Beef for the elite you primitive peasants

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malooch 2 points ago +2 / -0

cus they want everyone to be vegan

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EdwardTeller 2 points ago +2 / -0

Where in the bill does it indicate this? I have searched for any reference to 2600 and 6500 and I have found nothing. Tried it with commas as well. I'm worried this is a distraction to other things in the bill that are WORSE. LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO. We need to make sure we are factual 100% of the time.

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wolfsettler 2 points ago +2 / -0

Or OR you could just stop paying taxes and ignore the laws

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crash7863 2 points ago +2 / -0

How long before you lot see this shit and look behind the curtain?

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KekistanPM 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not me, I'm an elite politician with a lot of friends and connections. I can get fine wagu beef for lunch and dinner every day and not pay for it out of my own pocket. /s

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ClarenceBeeks 2 points ago +2 / -0

More like $146

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based_trekkie 2 points ago +2 / -0

My dumb ass democrat loving family members who still have their heads up FDR's ass ( who happen to be farmers ) are gonna love this bill....

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IowanMaga 2 points ago +2 / -0

Why do they have to pay at all? What??