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sully 91 points ago +96 / -5

Facebook has a profile on you regardless if you even sign up for it. As long as you have a single friend or family member who uses it, they've got you too.

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Unsilent 26 points ago +29 / -3

Interesting…Sauce on that claim?

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F_O_H 88 points ago +88 / -0

They’re called “shadow profiles” and in part, are created when facebooks idiot users agree to upload their entire contact list to facebooks servers / through their apps.

This enables them to do “social mapping”’of who knows you or has your number and info, even if you never engaged with Facebook or consented to do this.

If you do sign up, with the phone number everyone has for you and uploaded to FB ; you will be quickly offered people to add to your friends list and inferences will be made about your interests / preferences before your account is even finished creating. If a lot of LGBTs have you saved; if a lot of lawyers or politicians or people in a certain profession etc -

Remember PV having a Twitter engineer who said “we already know everything about you as soon as you even visit our page “ ?

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IamDevo 19 points ago +19 / -0

Facebook., if you're not covering your ass, they track you across the web if the site has Facebook plug-ins. You could not be signed up at all but a profile is being generated by your ip as your browse. Its gets darker if you read the user agreement on the app. A link to a site with fb plug-ins sent to you by text by a user with the app installed can almost certainly identify you after that.

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anotherthing 9 points ago +9 / -0

They can also get you from all the people who do use the thing via their contact list. That's one of the many reasons why they ask for access to your contact list. They can get your name like that, your address if the person has your address in there, and so on. They can also figure out your address and other things from your friend with Facebook on their phone via location data. They can get your picture from your friend's phone also since Facebook asks for access to that also.

Basically, everything we were afraid the Russians might be doing to us during the Cold War, most people carry around with them fully enabled today.

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Unsilent 11 points ago +11 / -0

Thanks for the info.

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midgetpornrocks 15 points ago +15 / -0

Also, they don't delete anything. They mark your account deleted in the database, which makes it behave as if it wasn't there. But, trust me, they still have your data, even if it was from 6 years ago.

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Rommsey 8 points ago +8 / -0

This is correct. Facebook does not actually delete the datastores on a profile in the database unless you are protected by something like GDPR then when a user "deletes" their profile, it merely disables the link in their database. I know this because I have supported Facebook as part of my career in the past and I know about some of their systems based on my job at the time.

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Highball 2 points ago +2 / -0

Exactly, and that would be a page lock slowing, down the database.

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noobcontrol 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes under the GDPR (which is valid in the EU) they have to delete it. If they get caught with it they have to pay a large sum.

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gunteh 4 points ago +4 / -0

Jokes on them, I don’t have any friends that I used to have when I first joined in 2007. And my account has been deleted for a few months now, so I guess the sold data is minimal.

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F_O_H 2 points ago +3 / -1

a 10 second google search reveals my address phone and email anyway , I had that shit public and didn’t care when I had an account anyway.

I’ve been doxxed in the past by what you could call a pissed off customer who couldn’t let go for 10 years. I’m pretty much at the point where I have two cell phones , I only check the publicly listed one about once a week and nobody will ever get the number for the “real one”

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gunteh 3 points ago +3 / -0

Sure, there’s ways to scrub yourself off of those we scraping sites. I do that to avoid getting doxxed unless someone pays money to find me, which doesn’t seem likely (yet).

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F_O_H 2 points ago +2 / -0

i just found it easier to use that number as a throwaway for sites and apps that require a mobile number. but a line with unlimited everything and no caps is equivalent to about $24 USD here

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Krat 4 points ago +4 / -0

They also run 24/7 face recognition software on every photo uploaded by everybody. So if you were at a party, and were in the background of some else's pic that was uploaded, they at least have SOME data about you. They know who they haven't reached yet, and the AI crunching this will eventually make the connection

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Marshall2 2 points ago +2 / -0

They consider closing a pop up add as agreeing to their terms. You don't actually have to agree.

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saltyviewer123 13 points ago +13 / -0

Hahaha...Facebook is down. No sauce can be provided at this time.

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user2827 2 points ago +2 / -0

I realized that, as a late adopter, I kept getting emails because people had my email.

Eventually I got an email saying "friend A and friend B both want you to join facebook" but the thing is that friend A had absolutely no connection to friend B.

The only way that was possible is if they were building the profile based on other people, before I accepted any of their terms.

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Taqiyya_Mockingbird 14 points ago +14 / -0

Shadow profiles. If you know someone who uses FB, they still have a file on you, because they access that persons data on every level on every device.

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PaigeAshley 7 points ago +7 / -0

Well that sucks...

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Right_of_Sinner 5 points ago +5 / -0

This is true. I Never have a Facebook account. I created one with no information about me, dummy email, on a VPN, and used a privacy browser, I logged in and there were 2 suggested friends and there were the two people I’ve known for most of my life. That freaked me out.

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Quietam_Unum 2 points ago +2 / -0

Facebook has a profile on you regardless if you even sign up for it.

And if that family or friend has any data on you (e.g. phone #, texts, address) on their sail-foam and uses the Faceberg app, you are being data-mined that way. Those data are then used to begin building a matrix which is fleshed out as as snippets are gathered from any and all sources available to them.

All this can be done with no input from you.

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ParadigmShift2070 2 points ago +2 / -0

and your lack of profile ironically stands out even more, when everything is connected, an empty spot that has hundreds of lines pointing to it is more conspicuous than other fully integrated spots

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Quietam_Unum 1 point ago +1 / -0

They got other way to fuck us over too. Try getting a VRBO without a faceberg/twatter/antisocial media presence. Can't be done.

One could make an argument those companies discriminate against boomers, but I know boomers that are way worse than any tweener on that "social" media crap.

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dianabrown1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not me. I saw what it really was and never joined or participated -whatever the hell you call it!

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ParadigmShift2070 2 points ago +2 / -0

if someone who has you on their contacts uploaded the contacts to Facebook, then you're already on it, the profile is not activated but it already has most of your personal information

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dianabrown1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well, I dont know if anyone does but everyone I know, knows I am not on any of those social networks for a very important reason: Privacy.

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ParadigmShift2070 1 point ago +1 / -0

you still don't get it? it only takes one of your acquaintances who doesn't care about his privacy to compromise yours, it doesn't matter that you never signed up for social media, they already know most things about you just based on people who have you as a contact. it doesn't even need to be social media, any place that allows uploading contacts is point of breach.

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dianabrown1 1 point ago +1 / -0

So, if they (assuming they have a Facebook profile) have me as an email contact, Im compromised on Facebook? If thats the case, no I didnt know that.

Nothing I can do to remove it, assuming it is there?

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ParadigmShift2070 1 point ago +1 / -0

if the contact information has your name attached to it, then they already collected your personal information, although I wouldn't go as far as calling it compromised in the sense someone can hack your nonexistence Facebook account or your other important accounts, but if someone working at Facebook wanted to, they can easily compile a personal profile of you just based on what other people shared about you. in fact, Facebook automatically creates a shadow profile of you just waiting to be activated, and if you try to start a new Facebook account, a lot of your personal information will be prefilled in, such as your phone number, email, home address, contacts, company you work for etc. you can't have it deleted because that would be essentially asking everyone who has you as a contact to delete your info from their accounts.

you can't do anything about it because it's considered public information or extrapolated information. Facebook itself did not actively spy on you and seek out your information, it just compiled all the aggregate information from other users and make logical connections similar to how background checks services work, they didn't spy on you but only compiled public information the government has on you to conduct its governmental functions.

what I'm saying is that you're not in danger of being doxxxed or have your bank accounts hacked even if you don't have an account, but if someone who has access to the Facebook database such as government subpoena, rogue Facebook employee, or hackers who obtained the whole database, is specifically seeking you out, they'll find out almost everything about you just by the people who know you.

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dianabrown1 1 point ago +1 / -0

I did not know that. I did think if I avoided the platforms, didnt answer any of the rediculous personal questions I was fairly safe. So, say, if Im an email contact of someone on Facebook, then my data from that email association is captured? Like who I am and what the two of us in email has been shared?

Thanks for the education. I wish there was a way to extricate myself from what I want to be removed from and keep what I trust and want to be associated with.

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WolfsDragoons 39 points ago +39 / -0

I quit Facebook December of last year in conjunction with drinking. Best two things I've ever quit.

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IamDevo 16 points ago +16 / -0

Facebook didn't quit you though.

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gunteh 4 points ago +4 / -0

Everything is interconnected, it’s impossible to be able to reply to this comment and not be compromised somewhere, whether it’s a gmail account, an old MySpace, heck, even an Amazon shopper account. There’s a paper trail connecting to everyone that uses the internet at some point in time in the past.

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TheJimmReaper 25 points ago +26 / -1

I ditched Fakebook 6-7 years ago and haven't looked back since, seemed hard at first but then it just wasn't a big deal, and now it's hilarious to read about people going to "Fakebook Jail" for 30 days (just leave they don't own you)

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Marshall2 3 points ago +3 / -0

Don't worry. Just because you forgot them doesn't mean they forgot YOU.

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PaigeAshley 19 points ago +19 / -0

I never had an account with them and I'm 27. 😁👍🏻

But, I've also not had any social media in my life except for 1 Pinterest account for recipe ideas.

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RATMW 7 points ago +8 / -1

Patriots.win is all the social media you need

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PaigeAshley 2 points ago +2 / -0

Amen to that!!! I'm on here pretty much throughout every day. Absolutely love this group of Patriots!

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RegularAmerican 1 point ago +1 / -0

You are a daily patriot that's for sure! After a couple years you remember usernames !

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PaigeAshley 2 points ago +2 / -0

Aw, thanks! So are you! 🇺🇲👍🏻

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kmillz 13 points ago +13 / -0

I want to get off of it so bad. Only thing keeping me around is sharing pics of my kids with family who I otherwise have virtually no contact with. Ik it's a bad excuse I just need to find a better alternative.

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Sea_Still [S] 10 points ago +10 / -0

My family and I email them

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realPhantomFuck 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is the way

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T_WIN_2020 4 points ago +4 / -0

I would because all those pics are archived and floating around somewhere. Don't even use iCloud, OneDrive etc because they also scan and go through your pics.

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zentoco 1 point ago +1 / -0

Check out setting up a NAS server, if you haven't already of course. Can be a little pricy, but if privacy is necessary, well worth it. I have Plex running, OTA TV, can share videos/pics of the kids, etc. Synology is what I use.

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my_sides 2 points ago +2 / -0

print them, hand write a note and mail them

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Highball 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think you can setup a Plex server for this. Give them a logins to your server. I vaguely remeber photos. Videos and music for sure.

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45454545454545454545 1 point ago +1 / -0

I wonder how much hackers are selling your family photos for on the black market right now?

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kmillz 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not in the top 1000 things I'll ever worry about.

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South_Florida_Guy 12 points ago +12 / -0

Never had it to begin with! Same for twatter, Instagram, etc.

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AsaNisiMAGA 5 points ago +5 / -0

Are you me? 😁

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South_Florida_Guy 6 points ago +6 / -0

I love when this stuff happens because I can gloat and mock normies and boomers

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Doctornirgon 7 points ago +7 / -0

Mine's been deleted for almost a year. Best decision.

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MingyGingy 5 points ago +5 / -0

They still have your info. Once you're in the system, you're never getting out of it.

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Mattdaking 5 points ago +5 / -0

Exactly. 9/10 people making fun of Facebook people either had it in the past, have or had Instagram, and are cucked anyway when people let Facebook use their contacts so virtually nobody here is winning lol

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Jacque_Strap 5 points ago +5 / -0

Never joined it.

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bubadmt 4 points ago +4 / -0

Same here. Fuck cuckbook.

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GenadderallPatton 4 points ago +4 / -0

Zuck Go Died’n

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1776Widowmaker 4 points ago +4 / -0

I never had Facebook.... probably one of the smarter choices i made in life.

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phzoe 4 points ago +4 / -0

But they didn't delete you. They don't scrub you from their DB. You and your friends' view is set to 0.

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CJ74U2NV 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm a landlord and it's by far the best place to advertise vacancies. Other than that...meh.

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trauncher 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm proud to say that I never created an account, and have run a full face blocker on all of my devices and web browsers from the beginning. Facebook is a domestic surveillance system. PERIOD.

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HFCornspiracy 3 points ago +3 / -0

I deleted mine in 08 or 09. Realized pretty early on it was bad news. It helped turn a good portion of society into sociopathic narcissist adult children Instagram phone zombies

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realPhantomFuck 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah, I deleted mine in 2012

It's not healthy that you're only ever viewing someone's highlight reel of their life... It can make you feel unfulfilled

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MAGANYficent 2 points ago +2 / -0

What the fuck is this thing called facebook?

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becky21k1 2 points ago +2 / -0

I didn't delete it, but I haven't looked at it since around Feb when they nuked my alt account.

I do miss talking to some of the people that were only on there, but I also have to think that if I stayed, I would probably have been postblocked most of the last 8 months anyways.

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wewongetoveritmaga 2 points ago +2 / -0

I deleted 1/7/2021

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n3IVI0 2 points ago +2 / -0

I ran a script that systematically deleted every post. I unlinked every tagged picture and post. Disconnected from every family member. Then deleted my account. Been out of Facebook/Twitter for over a a year. Don't miss it.

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astral-cracker 1 point ago +1 / -0

Did the same

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OkieRedPiller 2 points ago +2 / -0

I never had it ever! Fuck fakebook

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TheSuperStableGenius 2 points ago +2 / -0

6 years here too, early 2015...I have a fake account I troll with once a month when I'm bored

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Latin_Patriot_MAGA 2 points ago +2 / -0

i never used Facebook with a personal account, always use it with a fake account, I don't give a damn if it falls, or if they are stealing information, and also delete WhatsApp completely without a trace 1 year ago.

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RATMW 2 points ago +2 / -0

Never used Facebook but WhatsApp is the messenger I use most

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T_WIN_2020 6 points ago +6 / -0

Which is owned by Facebook. Yes they say it's encrypted... But Facebook has the keys. Every message and picture is archived.

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Flatulenator 2 points ago +2 / -0

Regret not leaving it years ago.

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Lol_Garrus 1 point ago +1 / -0

Haha, I deleted my FB back in 2012, almost a decade ago!

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mikethemarine 1 point ago +1 / -0

never had one, and made all my relatives remove any reference to me or my family on it.

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RockyMin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah me too. This doesn't bother me at all hahaha.

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Waterlaw 1 point ago +1 / -0

I never had facebook

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Kitzinger1 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm kind of sad. I use it to shit post and push Donald Trump Memes.

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Flipakademsarepedos 1 point ago +1 / -0

🤣😂😂😂😂

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Marshall2 1 point ago +1 / -0

There's no such thing as deleting anything on the internet. It will always be resurrected like mailing lists from forty years ago.

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mostlyatnight 1 point ago +1 / -0

Funny same here. I wonder what’s significant about that time 🤔

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SutopSutolf 1 point ago +1 / -0

This probably had something to do with the whistleblower that came out yesterday.

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TheGrooter 1 point ago +1 / -0

Me too fren. Me too.

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NotACommie 1 point ago +1 / -0

Same, thought I would miss it. Never did.

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8bit_mixtape 1 point ago +1 / -0

But Facebook never deleted you.

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Anonuser123 1 point ago +1 / -0

You deleted your account. That does not mean Facebook deleted your data. There is still a chance you are affected by the hack.

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SanAntonio1958 1 point ago +1 / -0

Same

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fskfsk 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have you beat. I figured out that Facebook was stupid in 2008. Everyone was making Facebook apps, and I had an interview for a job with someone who wanted a Facebook app, so I created an account. I used it for a few weeks and got bored.

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deleted 1 point ago +1 / -0
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KingToasty 1 point ago +1 / -0

I canceled mine after the 2016 Election. Never looked back.

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muppeton 1 point ago +1 / -0

10 years ago for me.

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7.62swinebuster 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm catching wind of people in my life having a little bit of a heroin withdrawal with FB today. Hilarious. People I had no idea where deep into FB until it was gone for 2 hrs. Can't imagine the panic for those that are super addicted to hitting FB refresh every 5 mins for years on end.

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YodaBannon 1 point ago +1 / -0

MyFace was better than Spacebook

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deleted 1 point ago +1 / -0
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vgorosh 1 point ago +1 / -0

Deleted in 2012. Burn, baby, burn ;)

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CovfefeVideo 1 point ago +1 / -0

They never delete you.

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noobcontrol 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes deleted it, too.