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Siteless_Vagrant 13 points ago +13 / -0

Too civil for FAR too long.

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iirc_life 8 points ago +8 / -0

Civility is a wonderful thing but it can only be applied when both sides are acting in good faith. It isn't necessarily that we've been too civil, what we've failed to do is adjust our tactics in a timely manner. Based on what I am seeing, that is changing.

Civility can be persuasive. Incivility cannot.

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zigmund_fraud [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

How do you mean

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iirc_life 3 points ago +3 / -0

Our goal has to be to win others to our worldview based on facts and reason. Other than persuasion we will always be reduced to coercion via the barrel of a gun.

To say that we have been "too civil" is simplistic. Civility exists on a spectrum and neither extreme on that spectrum is 100% applicable 100% of the time. There is a time for civility and that time would be marked by open communication and both sides acting in good faith and within the bounds of shared values. The time for incivility comes when either one or neither side is acting in good faith and there are few or no shared values. Unfortunately, it seems like the West is facing just such a time. A time when incivility will be the mode of operation. This will likely be the case until reason can be restored and civility becomes fruitful again.

So, that is why I was saying that our tactics must change. We must stop allowing ourselves to be punished for our virtue. The authoritarian left are bullies, and bullies only understand one thing. They do not reason. They do not persuade.

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jrgreen73 3 points ago +3 / -0

We have been too divided.

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RecreationalNyquil 2 points ago +2 / -0

We need more MAGA hats

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philnmdg 2 points ago +2 / -0

Cause we are 'nice' people and want to get along with others. We are not willing to stand up for ourselves as a nation and say NO FURTHER. Instead, we give into a death of one thousand compromises until it is in our homes and too late.

Here is an excerpt from Patrick Henry's Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death Speech. Something to steel our own spines with it:

They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable — and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come.

https://www.ushistory.org/documents/libertydeath.htm

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SpacemanTy 1 point ago +1 / -0

Do something then

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backstabbing 1 point ago +1 / -0

seventeen seventy six

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Barbs -6 points ago +1 / -7

And you’re another dumbfuck who has done nothing but bitch.

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zigmund_fraud [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

You sound like one of those agitators. Those losers with nothing better to do other than talking shit. Congrats on ending up there in life - big accomplishment.

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TangerineShine 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ayyyyy homie.....you glowin’!

“...done nothing but bitch”

And I suppose you have a plan. Let me guess! It involves ANFO and a moving truck?

Fuck outta here!

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TrumpCopper 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ms Sins they got your #s good luck on your next flight.

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Iloveamericamore 1 point ago +1 / -0

You have allowed children who can not lift 16 oz cans to bully you.

You are pathetic.

First step to recovery is admitting it.

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Texasranger 0 points ago +3 / -3

What do you want to do? storm the capital then sit in solitary confinment for 6 months.

Be my guest.

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zigmund_fraud [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

No. That kind of thing just allows the state/feds to flex.

Realistically, these people need to be afraid to collaborate with the pieces of human garbage that are destroying our country.

The media, politicians (governors, congress, senate, AG's, election board members, etc.), companies like Pfizer and their execs, and so on should all have serious concerns over who they are pissing off.

Not because a mob is going to come to their house. Simply because people like me are no longer telling others to wait and worry about optics. They're putting millions of people in a "nothing left to lose" scenario. People's family members and friends are dying.

You think the concern is a mob? No way.

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Barbs -5 points ago +2 / -7

Then go be uncivil.

Or are you waiting for a consensus? Lol.

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zigmund_fraud [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

I'm simply making a statement. Why does that bother you?

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TangerineShine 4 points ago +4 / -0

I don’t know if it bothers him as much as it excites him. He wants to recruit you to help incite the next erection.