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Lilyfarmer 740 points ago +746 / -6

Document all of this.

Unless you've been physically or verbally abusive there's no court that will look favorably on one parent removing children from another parent. It's not the 80s or 90s anymore, Father's have rights. That is parental alienation.

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RahkeemTheMachine 300 points ago +301 / -1

Depends on the state. In my state fathers have the “right” to carry their kids health insurance until they are 30

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Ifeargovtmorethan 195 points ago +195 / -0

This is the sad reality....maybe 2 in 10 judges are sympathetic to a father. This is not the time to be the strong silent type like you probably are. You need to over state the emotional toll taking your children does and causing a family crisis over your personal medical decisions.

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Shenanigunz 99 points ago +99 / -0

Yeah, I am in the process of divorce in MI and in my particular county, there are 7 family law judges, 6 of them are old white men who default on primary custody to the mothers. Only one, a woman in her 50's, defaults on 50-50 custody, and the judge you get is luck of the draw.

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deplorablepepe4 69 points ago +69 / -0

My parents divorced in MI when I was young. One sister lived with grandparents the rest stayed with our mother (for me)....The courts had my father paying child support for all kids including one that wasnt his. When I moved in with my father the courts still forced him to pay child support to my mother.....My father then remarried and adopted my stepmothers kids......they divorced and he also had to pay child support for the adopted kids........(7 kids total) .I have no idea how he put food on our table. I always dreaded seeing letters from the court in the mail.....usually that meant my mother was asking the courts to increase his child support....which they always agreed with.

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traveravis 61 points ago +63 / -2

adopted my stepmothers kids

mistake

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Skinagrizz 24 points ago +29 / -5

I adopted my youngest son from my wife's previous marriage and I wouldn't have it any other way.

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mulejuicemcquaid 13 points ago +14 / -1

If the kids are very young and don't have a father in their life, then you aren't just "Bill the Stepdad" but legit a parent bonded to them for life. Adopting them and changing their name to yours is a classy move and alpha energy... assuming you actually vet the mother properly so you don't end up like OP.

But if they're older and already have or had a father in their life... it seems like more trouble than it's worth to have the legal responsibilities of fatherhood without all the perks of being "dad" IMO.

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RootinTootin 18 points ago +22 / -4

It depends... one man's trash is another's treasure

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Llanos 43 points ago +46 / -3

Putting time and resources into someone else's offspring is a quick way to end your own lineage. That's why people inherently don't want other people's kids.

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trumpORbust 8 points ago +8 / -0

Eh, don't need to adopt to love fully... It's just a legal agreement and ability to decide stuff that where you should agree with the mother

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becky21k1 5 points ago +8 / -3

This is why worn out sluts still get laid

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neurojerk 28 points ago +28 / -0

My parents divorced when I was very young. The things my mother pulled to screw over my father with the courts as her enforcer were unbelievable. She absolutely should have lost custody of us, but the mommy courts at the time didn't do anything. One psychologist appointed by the courts testified that it was the most disturbing case he'd ever seen. The result of that hearing? Increased child support payments. I still don't know to this day how my dad got through it. And despite all the justification to do it, he rarely spoke an ill word of her, so as not to put more stress on us kids.

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GarudaDarkblack 7 points ago +7 / -0

As someone who recently got divorced with a young child involved I can tell you this. The divorce decree likely said he wasn't allowed to speak ill of her in front of you or he would risk losing custody rights. My ex had her boyfriend harass me at my own home while holding my child in an attempt to get me to react badly so she could have a custody case. I had to take it like a bitch but was granted a restraining order against him the same day. You never win, just do a little better each time.

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ThunderInYourHeart 7 points ago +7 / -0

The most heartbreaking thing is seeing the “handoff” that takes place often in a parking lots. The last time I saw it happen was at a gas station. The dad pulls up and the mom walks over from her car, and the little girl is crying because she doesn’t want to go, and you can see some other guy in the passenger side of the mom’s car, probably the boyfriend. Very toxic situation.

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Tardigrade 10 points ago +10 / -0

Michigan is just awful in this regard. I know of so many sad tales. Including the family of one of my sister's friends, whose dad was sleeping in his car for a while because 80% of his pay was garnished.

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Tbonius45maximus 8 points ago +8 / -0

At that point i would drop off the grid.

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Walleye-vision71 7 points ago +7 / -0

At that point, I would drop some other people off the grid, permanently.

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becky21k1 4 points ago +4 / -0

Right? Can't take 80% of your pay if you don't have a job and "what difference, at (that) point, does it make?"

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flirp 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sounds like Terrence Popp's outcome too.

Redonkulas.com

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grannyd 6 points ago +6 / -0

that's michigan for you--same my son.

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the_sky_is_falling 5 points ago +5 / -0

Getting fucked over once is a tragedy.

Going back and getting fucked over again is a comedy.

Glad your father was still able to support all his kids but he chose to get remarried and he chose to adopt those kids.

Can't sympathize with such a man but am glad he was still a good father to you.

May you not make his mistake.

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BiteMeMarxist 4 points ago +4 / -0

I ALSO drew a default "mom gets custody" always judge...because in NY State in 1997 there was no such thing as men getting shared or full custody.

Remarkably -- I wound up with full custody of three sons ages 7-12. Even though the court system and the community did all they could to stop it, my ex- was just that awful of a mother.

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Duke59 6 points ago +6 / -0

It took three children to find out that she was that “awful of a mother”?

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NoCoupForYou 40 points ago +41 / -1

A source of trouble is that alot of conservatives avoid professions like Social Work and Family Court where they are needed most, because of the poison in those professions.

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NoCoupForYou 15 points ago +15 / -0

Yeah, right on.

I was thinking about this the other day: Informal Partnership agreements have more legal protection than Marriage.

Let's make the whole thing a religious document, but provide total civil enforcement. No Secular authorities should have any power over Marriage.

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RStroud 13 points ago +13 / -0

That's my feeling. Let the state enforce (preferably written) contracts. It has no business administering or regulating sacraments.

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markolbb 36 points ago +36 / -0

It's ironic how they want everybody to think woman are totally equal and the same as men in every way. Then the judge goes "well obviously the mother is the caring, nurturing, soft parent that the kids should live with. The father is just some harsh man who disciplines his kids!"

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Gletkin 2 points ago +2 / -0

No, Christianity is right about women (and men). The divorce rate is over 50% because we have completely lost the sanctity of marriage in this culture. The answer isn’t burkas and fgm; the answer is Christ.

The girls who grow up in households where the prevailing cultural norms are unchallenged will grow up into the evil bitches referenced throughout this thread. Girls who are raised in sincere, serious, and loving Christian households will grow up to be Proverbs 31 women. Great wives, great moms, great individuals. Unless they marry a man who grew up accepting the prevailing cultural norms. Unlikely but shit happens.

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mulejuicemcquaid 13 points ago +13 / -0

Yet if you look at the statistics, having a father in their life (even a single parent father) immediately gives children the best odds at success in life.

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ceremony_ 7 points ago +7 / -0

It's even worse because he didn't receive the jab.

Today, that's considered morally unconscionable.

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shadows_of_the_mind 5 points ago +5 / -0

Better than 1 in 50 judges from a decade or two ago. Silver lining in society becoming all soft squishy and progressive is the faint recognition of men having parental rights

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krzyzowiec 4 points ago +4 / -0

Good to see the pendulum swinging back a bit. Maybe one day we’ll get to the point where it’s recognized once again that they are the man’s children.

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TheMadManDidItAgain 38 points ago +38 / -0

True. My brother has full custody of his child... his girlfriend, who has been arrested and jailed many times for drugs, prostitution, etc, gets rights to spend time with the child as well, I don't know how much, but some... The mother almost never does, and when she does, she is normally late and drops him back at home early.

My brother still has to pay her something like $500 a month which she just uses for drugs.... and the courts won't change this because this woman knows exactly how to work the system.

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Amateurgynecologist 39 points ago +39 / -0

My oldest. His mother. Basically abandoned him at 2 years old, so me and this girl i was dating, raised him. With no financial help. And we were POOR as fuck. My girlfriend was a better mother than his own mom

Now my son is mid 20s and his mother actually has money now. She bought him a car and etc and the kid thinks she is Jesus or something

Idk man life is just like that

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Trythisagain 6 points ago +6 / -0

I definitely feel your pain there brother, you did what you did out of love and being responsible. No regrets when it comes from the heart but the pain on the inside can't be described.

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n0n3wn0ri3 4 points ago +4 / -0

The kid just wants to have their mother be important so they just keep the story in their mind going . Sounds like you and step mom were a good team which is what matters

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dahdahdah_dahditdah 4 points ago +4 / -0

When he matures a bit more hopefully he will figure things out. Be patient and loving toward young(er) people, and don't hang too much of your happiness in their stability and maturity, because they are often anything but.

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markolbb 19 points ago +19 / -0

He has to pay her $500 a month even with her record and her documented history?? What's the justification/explanation of that?

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TheMadManDidItAgain 11 points ago +11 / -0

I have no idea. I think my brother just feels it's easiest to pay it and keep her away than to battle this. I don't talk to him about it much anymore... but I do believe he was talking about trying to get a judge to stop the child support payments after her last jail ordeal (which was like a year ago, maybe 2).

My brother has a really hard life, and his kid is having big problems as well... he doesn't need me, somebody who has a great family and a very good child, talking to him about this kind of stuff... Most of the time, I hear about this through my mom who lives with him (kind of). But since the fucking coof destroyed everything, I hardly see my mom anymore when I used to see her every week... it's not because of coof I don't see her directly, it's because some of my commitments have stopped because of coof and we don't need her to babysit anymore.

That's my life story, lol. Well, maybe not my life.

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markolbb 6 points ago +6 / -0

That sucks dude I hope things improve for your brother.

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AngryWriter 5 points ago +5 / -0

Drugs are expensive, so it's only fair to share the cost.

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dahdahdah_dahditdah 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hunter Biden frequently needs financial help too.

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T-Bear 3 points ago +3 / -0

Depending on state - likely alimony. An ex's free paycheck she can gouge every month from a man.

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markolbb 2 points ago +2 / -0

There's nothing that will forfeit it? You'd think the receiver going to jail over and over again and having a continuous documented drug addiction would relieve the husband, no?

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T-Bear 2 points ago +2 / -0

Alimony is the court ordered payment, usually husband to ex-wife, to prevent the "powerful Man" from simply dumping his wife for some cutey and leaving said dumped ex without a means of support.

Most Blue states have it. It has been modified (somewhat) to be paid out now to the spouse making far less...but that varies. Many states have justly dropped alimony from consideration.

A good divorce lawyer can easily get around a pre-nup and snag a hefty alimony.

Alimony usually is there for life. Sometimes, a man can go back to court to get it discontinued should the woman re-marry, but that's a hard sell in most cases.

Alimony was originally to discourage the quickie divorce, and give pause to consider, when saving the marriage would be preferable.

It has over the decades turned into a largely feminist means of ripping the guy for up to half his income, and the WOMAN goes off to remarry, keeping her ex on the hook for the extra dough...making a nifty 3 income family for the vindictive woman - hers, her husband's, ad her ex's.

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T-Bear 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh, and so long as the ex remains poor and unmarried, the guy is usually on the hook....for life.

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America1stAndOnly 2 points ago +2 / -0

She has a vagina. What, you didn't really believe the feminist narrative that women are the oppressed ones did you?

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CoyoteTan 18 points ago +18 / -0

Would be a shame if someone gave her a large quantity of her drug of choice and let nature take its course. Blessings of St Floyd be upon her.

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SteelDriver 9 points ago +9 / -0

We need to deregulate (Hah! Like the Feds even know what that means. I digress...) narcotics and re-open the opium dens. Problem solved.

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SteelDriver 20 points ago +21 / -1

When I point this out to women in my family, I usually get the somewhat generic response that it's "payback for the patriarchy" (either past or present, I guess). When I mention that I'm not part of that patriarchy and do not benefit from it, they'll point out that most politicians or CEOs are men. To which I have to laugh. Those politicians and CEOs "hold me down" as much as they do women. What a world...

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covok48 21 points ago +21 / -0

I get this response too from the supposedly conservative women in the family. They are addicted to the leverage it gives them in family dynamics.

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conservativeyuppie 6 points ago +9 / -3

I have heard so many stories of evil women that if I saw one being raped or beaten I would probably just mind my own business and keep walking by.

I think Jesus had a very relevant parable for this that He might bring up to you on the day of judgement...

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LaughingEagle 5 points ago +6 / -1

Do not withhold good from those to whom it is due, when it is in your power to do it. - Proverbs 3:27

Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you. -Ephesians 4:32

Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked.

  • Psalm 82:4

What is so equal about being "raped or beaten"?

For a so called Christian you sure have a lot of hate in your heart.

Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love -1 John 4:8

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becky21k1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not worried about that

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RussianBotButNot 1 point ago +3 / -2

This sounds familiar. Kind of like, "Some men rape, therefore all men are rapists."

Congratulations. You've conceded the point of identity politics, and you are now not only everything the enemy is, but everything they want the rest of us to be.

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RussianBotButNot 3 points ago +5 / -2

If I change just a couple of words, everything you wrote sounds like a College Atheist. You'll forgive me if I've watched enough of their behavior, empirical data, and listened to the stories of sane adults and assume you're nineteen and complete trash.

And don't label me because I refuse to go along with you to get along with you.

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russianbot4673 11 points ago +13 / -2

the women in your family sound like a bunch of complete idiots.

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RussianBotButNot 2 points ago +2 / -0

And the men of the family are obviously cucks, too.

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BasedPharmD 9 points ago +9 / -0

I always tell this to black friends. Rich white man has been fucking me over my whole life too. Join the club

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myswedishfriend 9 points ago +9 / -0

Most septic workers, coal miners, and garbage collectors are men, too. What's the point?

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SteelDriver 5 points ago +5 / -0

I bring that exact shit up, too (usually to no response; they know their opinion is bullshit - I think it's just an excuse they like to roll out). I don't see many ad campaigns fighting for "more women in septic tank repair" or "more women in plumbing". I see "more women in science" shit all the time. In most of the colleges near me, the only majors women are not the majority in are science, math, and engineering. They dominate everything else. I guess we can't have "equality" until white men are only a minority in every aspect of life.

I did enjoy one aspect of the "pandemic" when I got to spread the meme "During the 'pandemic', men have lost $1.30 for every $1.00 women have lost." :D

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Silas4Trump1776 5 points ago +5 / -0

The reason men are mostly in power positions is because they are willing to dedicate 90% of their life to one thing, women are not, they are hardwired to make time for ‘family’ men can focus solely on one thing for their entire life and pursue it ruthlessly, I’m not saying all women don’t but the vast majority do not have this drive

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America1stAndOnly 1 point ago +1 / -0

they are willing to dedicate 90% of their life to one thing, women are not,

Oh, but they do dedicate that much time to one thing, themselves.

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Titus45 12 points ago +12 / -0

And they wonder why marriage and childbirths are down among whites. Family law is another tool to decrease white population.

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RussianBotButNot 3 points ago +3 / -0

Marriage and childbirth are down among whites at least partly because risk aversion reigns supreme.

I mean, look around; everyone's constantly screaming about how families will inevitably fall apart because "your partner will betray you and steal all your stuff, and the government will steal your children who will then betray you". The young people of my acquaintance simply cannot bring themselves to believe that good outcomes are even worth the risk, much less probable.

So they sit around on their cellphones living half a life, weak men and women raised to be afraid of failure.

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Titus45 6 points ago +6 / -0

The risk aversion is logical. Don't blame the people who are rationally thinking. Blame the people that uphold and fail to reform broken family law.

If you are male it isn't worth the risk. Women leave with cash and prizes, men get stuck with the bill.

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America1stAndOnly 3 points ago +3 / -0

It still amazes me that there are still so many men that refuse to look at how fucked up the marriage situation is. Even all the "scholars" who do research about marriage rates, divorce, and why men are avoiding marriage and having kids all refuse to ever demand changes or solutions. It's always that that you just need to do it anyway and if you lose everything you own and spent your entire life building and also get stuck with bullshit alimony payments, well, oh well. You should just man up bucko!

You want to see more men getting married? Demand change. Of course those types never will and those in power love crippling and ruining good men. Let us also not forget that one of communism's primary tenants and goals is the destruction of the family unit. What better way to do that then by making men completely vulnerable and powerless while also encouraging all the worst traits of the female's nature.

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America1stAndOnly 1 point ago +2 / -1

weak men and women raised to be afraid of failure.

It has nothing to do with a man being weak. The strongest man in the world crumbles utterly when he's alone against the entire state. You will never be strong enough to overcome it, only stupid enough to ignore the signs of it.

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BigSaltyBallsInCLE 2 points ago +2 / -0

30 year old kids? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Fucking bullshit!

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RahkeemTheMachine 2 points ago +2 / -0

That’s for health insurance. Actual child support is 21 I think unless they go to college then it’s longer

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4more 78 points ago +81 / -3

Lots of women will just say the guy is abusive even if he isn’t.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 45 points ago +46 / -1

As they have been trained to do.

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krzyzowiec 10 points ago +12 / -2

Women don’t need to be trained to do that. They lie like it’s breathing.

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becky21k1 -2 points ago +9 / -11

This is why Islam treats them as they do. Many deserve it.

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krzyzowiec 4 points ago +7 / -3

I don't know why you are downvoted. I think that's exactly why they treat them that way. Whenever you see an "abusive" man, you never hear about how the woman provoked him. It's always framed like he just woke up and decided to beat her for no reason. It's damned shameful. They don't lie about women in Islam, which is how it used to be in Christianity before the cucks and women took over.

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becky21k1 2 points ago +3 / -1

Yes, women often create their own problems because they're rarely held responsible for their behavior. In Islam, they just beat the shit out of them before they can do anything stupid.

People downvote because they're stupid and think they should continue to enable women in their degeneracy.

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Colonel_Chestbridge 2 points ago +4 / -2

If the someone is being legitimately abused there’s no “provocation” that justifies it.

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Boudicca2 1 point ago +1 / -0

Wish I could upvote more. We have some really fucked up women haters on this board. Glad I'm not the only one that stands up to their psychopathy.

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krzyzowiec 1 point ago +2 / -1

I'm saying things don't happen without a reason. If a wife needles her husband all night and he eventually hits her, all you ever hear about is the hitting and how terrible the man is, but not how much of a bitch she was being.

Also you notice many of those "abused women" tend to go right back to the guy, so clearly they know what is going on deep down and are ok with it. If they weren't, they would end the relationship right there.

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America1stAndOnly 1 point ago +2 / -1

One of the earliest lessons in the bible, Adam and Eve, is how following women will lead you to ruin.

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krzyzowiec 3 points ago +3 / -0

And isn't that amazing? Genesis is right there at the beginning, ALL Christians know that story, and yet so few Christians actually see and understand the message behind it.

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Boudicca2 0 points ago +1 / -1

Stay gay then, and you won't ever have to worry about this.

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RussianBotButNot -5 points ago +3 / -8

Absolutely. All women should be executed slowly for not wearing a proper Hefty bag over their heads.

It's their fault men find them attractive, you know.

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becky21k1 3 points ago +5 / -2

Sure and you're an honorary woman too

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RussianBotButNot -2 points ago +2 / -4

Quiet, woman, and get your Hefty bag back on before someone takes you at your word.

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NoCoupForYou 27 points ago +28 / -1

It's SOP for Divorce Lawyers. As is getting a restraining order.

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mugatucrazypills 15 points ago +15 / -0

Get a restraining order against her first. File for her violation. (And she will)

Accuse her of battery, assault, molestation, kidnapping. Before she does. (And she will) tell the court a social worker and cop should be present when she is with the kids.

Tell them she threatened to kill them all.

You think there are rules. Decency , Values. None of that exists. But the rules are not what you think.

Tell her you want court ordered counselling on the most delayed schedule imaginable to buy time. Note when she doesn't show. File for more court orders and injunctive relief.

Learn the law. Find cash work to supplement with more lawyers.

This is like nuclear war. The side which launches a first strike of everything with thermonuclear MIRVed weapons has a chance. Get all your birds in the air before they are destroyed on the ground.

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603win 7 points ago +7 / -0

I watched a family friend go through a three-year bloodbath of a divorce because he thought there was a way to resolve things eventually outside the courts. This is a fool’s trap.

Hard agree with the parent. Hop aboard the doomsday plane with your lawyer and go to DEFCON 1. Remember that your ammunition in court is the written word, so document EVERYTHING that could be related. Dates and times you interact with them, remarks about the encounter, third parties that can corroborate the entry. Be meticulous. Your logs may save your ass from an extended jail stay if she weaponizes the restraining order. When money isn’t so tight, spend some cash on a dash cam.

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mugatucrazypills 2 points ago +2 / -0

Dash cam body cam don't leave home without em

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NoCoupForYou 3 points ago +3 / -0

I agree.

Thank God the father said the Magic Words "Rape Kit"

There's probably a law that mandates the cops cannot refuse a request from a person or minor's custodian to do so or they face criminal penalties.

That's the one key thing that might bring this sick person to justice. Otherwise the school would have buried it and later claimed "NO EVIDENCE!!!"

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dahdahdah_dahditdah 2 points ago +2 / -0

Did this reply end up in the wrong thread?

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NoCoupForYou 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes! My comment is referring to the Trannie Assaulter in Virginia Schools.

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dahdahdah_dahditdah 2 points ago +2 / -0

Got it. You are right, it is critical to know what to do and say when everything comes crashing down, to take command of the situation like the girl’s dad did his best to do.

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unemotioNOLE 5 points ago +7 / -2

we need all laws written in english and based on the constitutionality of the law. our laws are based off canon law from around the 1200s. using latin terms and phrases just like satanists or harry potter. there is no way we as supposed to be kings should have to pay someone to explain a law. they need to be very clear and simple.

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unemotioNOLE 19 points ago +19 / -0

nail meet head. not one woman gives up her advantage in court. every woman i know wants to make the man pay. not just money but pain. they feel we deserve to pay cause we ruined their lives. most females in unplanned pregnancy when telling their parents they are pregnant, the parents say you just ruined your life. well the woman has to blame someone so her feet being up was his fault so he must pay. no personal responsibility for being easy

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covok48 18 points ago +19 / -1

Women are never accountable & responsible for their actions at the same time.

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becky21k1 7 points ago +7 / -0

So they're joggers?

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RussianBotButNot 4 points ago +4 / -0

Fortunately, we'll soon have artificial wombs, so we can simply do away with women entirely. At last, a perfect world with no pesky not-men in it!

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America1stAndOnly 2 points ago +2 / -0

This, but unironically. Nobody likes women, especially women. Men just spend most of their lives looking for one that leaves them thinking "Hey, I think I might not hate this bitch."

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conservativeyuppie 1 point ago +5 / -4

Well you surround yourself with shitty women then. My father was cozying up to prostitutes and divorced my mom when she wouldn't tolerate it and when he got thrown into jail for having an unregistered gun (in a liberal state), my mom had the power to destroy him by testifying against him but she refused to do it and told the court he was no danger. The fact that a jilted ex wife was vouching for him saved him.

And by the way, it takes two people to make a baby. If you don't want to deal with the consequences of an unplanned pregnancy, don't stick it in. Both of you are accepting the consequences when you choose to take on that risk.

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dahdahdah_dahditdah 4 points ago +4 / -0

That was a very classy move on your mom's part. Actually telling the truth in court testimony - what a concept.

Ignore the other reply. I think somebody is off his meds.

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mugatucrazypills 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ill admit it ... I'm out of pills.

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unemotioNOLE 2 points ago +5 / -3

oh so if two people have sex we should expect only one to pay? i dgaf about your mom and dad wtf does that add without the whole story? was your dad unstable? i mean he was visiting prostitutes, thats not healthy behavior for a married man. did your mom go to court and lie for your dad? did she enable him to visit prostitutes? was there a functional relationship between your parents or was it disfunctional? i would lean towards dis functional seeing as he had to see hookers to get off. maybe a jilted exwife is a part of a disfunctional unit and doesnt have the correct mindset to see the truth and speak it

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RussianBotButNot -2 points ago +1 / -3

That's right! Always side with the man! The man is never at fault! Everything is always the woman's fault--and God's, for making woman in the first place!!!

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unemotioNOLE 5 points ago +5 / -0

always? there you go dealing in absolutes again. must be a very emotional guy reacting the way you do. might wanna get an allergy test for that. i really hit a nerve on the disfunctional family huh? have you never thought about it that way? cognitive dissonance maybe? i spoke a truth and you go straight to accusing me of always siding with a man? nope, i know a guy who deserves to be in prison and not have his kid, but he had enough money to payoff everyone he needed to. no person needs to believe they are investing in a relationship for life and then 20 years later gets screwed out of everything. i try to always write almost always because things are not absolute. but they can be very very close. good luck in life buddy im done with your emotional absolutes

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Serulin 10 points ago +10 / -0

Abusive is not giving into the woman's desires. All these women so super duper lovey dovey happy then when the relationship ends they all say how manipulative the guy was.

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RussianBotButNot 4 points ago +4 / -0

You mean all these BPD women are super-duper sexy-wexy puttin' out, and then the young fella gets over his orgasm and begins to realize the reason his girl sucked his dick on the first date is because she's insane--just like people used to say before men started rewarding hoes with relationships.

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Serulin 3 points ago +3 / -0

They can't all be mentally ill. There have to be a lot of them who absorb the symptoms from associating with the mentally ill.

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covok48 7 points ago +7 / -0

Correct. Abusive = Make decisions I don’t agree with.

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Based45 18 points ago +18 / -0

Yea, definitely depends on the state. Progressive Massachusetts discriminates against fathers on the regular. I know from experience. I’m saying that as someone with full custody of my kids. I have another court date in a week.

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MySidesGoUp 11 points ago +12 / -1

Define ‘abusive’.

Very easy for mothers today to build the case. Document everything and get a lawyer.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 8 points ago +9 / -1

Yep, "abusive" is whatever a leftist judge says it is.

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benny77 9 points ago +9 / -0

I hope you find your way and have a source of income. If you don't reach out to family, friends or Church for brief help. If I knew you I would step in and immediately help bridge the gap. I am sure you have good people in your life, this is the time to use those connections.

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MagicDsHarp 275 points ago +279 / -4

You are already better off. You got rid of a woman with no loyalty to you.

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Looatyourself [S] 227 points ago +230 / -3

It’s hard to swallow, but you’re right.

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MagicDsHarp 84 points ago +86 / -2

You are probably going to be alright. You got a lot of years in front of you and that's all a man needs to turn things around.

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Lordahdaring 56 points ago +57 / -1

When I quit smoking, I had to think about all the shit I hated about it, meditate on it focus on it... Meditate on the same shit with her... ask her for paternity tests prior to any other steps, not that you'd treat the kids any different but they and you should know if she's a complete whore. Remember, it's always better to find a woman who loves you and won't try to poison your children. There are a lot of good women out there. Try to date women who have features that your wife is self conscious about. Document everything, record every call, stalk the shit out of her on Social Media just for information.

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SirSelrahc 16 points ago +16 / -0

Another reason to keep funds to the side that the other can't touch.

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plaaaa 14 points ago +14 / -0

Draining the account is really nasty & theft. Who does she thinks she is.

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Deplora 4 points ago +4 / -0

Nasty, yes. Theft, no. Both parties to a joint account can legally do whatever they want with the entire amount of money in the account. Now this behavior is likely to come back and bite her when a judge is considering the parties' respective demands re financial settlement terms in the divorce. But her taking all the funds out of the account was not illegal.

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Jeffersonian_Man 7 points ago +9 / -2

If he is in the military then they paternity test at birth in all case, far as I'm aware.

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Rambochka 5 points ago +5 / -0

They never did this for my husband and I just had our baby earlier this year. It was in a civilian hospital though.

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Jeffersonian_Man 3 points ago +3 / -0

I didn't have any kids while in, I was just under the impression that's how it works. Granted I wouldn't want to have a baby in a military hospital anyway.

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DeadOverRed 15 points ago +16 / -1

Nope. If you lived with her and told people you were the father, it doesn't matter who the biological father is - courts will hold you responsible.

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Lordahdaring 15 points ago +16 / -1

It's for the relationship with the kids... if she cheated... you're automatically the good guy, and every time Mom bitches about Dad, kids will be thinking "So that's what a whore sounds like"

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DeadOverRed 11 points ago +11 / -0

Ah, not bad. May work.

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Lordahdaring 9 points ago +9 / -0

even later on when they're more savvy, letting it slip "accidentally" that you 'had' to get one?

LOL still throws shade on Mom.

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Richard_Dangler 4 points ago +4 / -0

Strategic thinking!

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Wholelottarosie1776 2 points ago +6 / -4

Date women that have features the ex is self conscious about? What??

EVERY WOMAN is self conscious about something. This is some beta, red pill bs.

Find a good woman that has a solid, rational mind and is attractive, fit and friendly.

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Lordahdaring 7 points ago +7 / -0

War is fucking war, she took his kids, and devastated his life.

I'm not saying don't look for the "one" I'm saying that if you happen to bring a chick with a perfect ass, or a high IQ, or Natural Tits, or you know... anything that she was PARTICULARLY nervous about... you could make her feel like shit, and what in the world is wrong with that?

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Gabbs1212 5 points ago +5 / -0

I did that! Almost married that one, then got one with a BETTER body, and married that one. Life is good!

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conservativeyuppie 2 points ago +3 / -1

Everything's wrong with it. If your criteria for a new woman is tied to something about the ex, there's still an emotional connection there. You have to sever that. You might think you're winning but they just get the satisfaction of knowing you're still wasting energy thinking about them. People like that are emotional vampires with no empathy. My brother married one and she literally destroyed his life.

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Lordahdaring 4 points ago +4 / -0

Ok, my point is. Pick Miss "Right" with prayer, rationality and humilty.

If you happen to have a "Miss Right-Now" that happens to go to a social engagement or "meet the teacher" that has perfect tits, if that was your wife's sore point... or a skinny ass if ex thinks her's is too fat etc. Nothing is wrong with that!

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Spez_Is_A_Pedofile 40 points ago +40 / -0

My wife left about 8 months ago. No kids thankfully. The main reason she stated was I am a “Trumpist”. The looser she started fucking dumped her after a few weeks.

Now she has nothing. Sorely regrets leaving me and profoundly sorry. Suck it - you made your bed now lay in it.

Im sure she still listens to NPR. But she did make a biden sucks comment.

This too shall pass. You will recover better & stronger. I personally am waiting to start dating until the divorce is finalized. Its not fair to me or the other person to bring ongoing baggage with me.

But once everything is finalized I now know how to dig into mental, spiritual, and political beleifs. Something that different register years ago.

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Looatyourself [S] 15 points ago +16 / -1

Thank you for the perspective!

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JoggingLooter 8 points ago +8 / -0

Not sure if you will see this but she left the house. That is the dumbest thing she could have done so you have one on her right away. Ask your attorney if you have to let her back in and do as he says. Removing children from a home without a court order is a no no. You might be able to call her in for kidnapping.

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becky21k1 4 points ago +4 / -0

Every time she tries to talk to you say "but no more mean tweets, right?"

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America1stAndOnly 2 points ago +2 / -0

But she did make a biden sucks comment.

She's trying to win you back with comments like that. Really though, you shouldn't be talking to her at all anymore.

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BunkerHill 1 point ago +1 / -0

Just a thought...try now digging into the mental, spiritual, and political beliefs of and with your ex. Maybe she is ready to really view things differently. Sometimes hitting bottom makes people actually look up. Be careful, bit maybe there is hope for restoration if she is honestly sorry and ready to rethink her life. Hope springs eternal...

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Spez_Is_A_Pedofile 1 point ago +1 / -0

She spread her legs willingly & excitedly for another man. I do forgive her spiritually. But i can never, ever trust her again. Trust is the cornerstone of a marriage.

When the divorce is finalized. I do plan on encouraging her to seek God. Repent. At this point she doesn’t want a spiritual life. It’s just pride. I won’t give up on her. Her family wont give up on her. I know God wont give up on her.

After she couldn’t conceive she developed a root of bitterness and aimed it at her creator. Her mom says she thinks she did what she did to release me. To give me a chance at a life with a wife with kids. What she didn’t realize was my marriage covenant with her was just as important. Kids would only be a blessing to enhance our lives. But I was content funneling that energy into serving others if I couldn’t be a father. & thats ok too.

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BunkerHill 1 point ago +1 / -0

So sorry this happened to you!

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talltellmanson 25 points ago +27 / -2

I've seen almost no military marriages work in my life.

I know it sucks but she's probably been cheating on you for a while with some other dude or army dyke for a while now and this was just a good excuse to expedite the inevitable.

And every military cheating spouse I've seen drains the account before they run too.

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Miztivin 13 points ago +13 / -0

Damn. Happened to my husband with his first marriage. Shed drain his account everytime he got paid while he was over seas. Spent the whole tour penniless.

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PaulieM91 6 points ago +6 / -0

This is probably why I'd leave personal bank access to my parents while i was overseas, incase something happened to me and to give the would-be cheaters an allowance instead of the full paycheck

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unemotioNOLE 8 points ago +9 / -1

dont comingle finances with a partner. my exwife and i never shared an account to pool our money. we never fought about money. just over her being a hoe

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RustyShacklefordsMom 3 points ago +3 / -0

Eh I see what you’re saying, but I don’t think joint accounts are the problem as much as women demanding control of finances. My husband and I have joint accounts (I stay home so I’d be annoyed by him giving me an allowance because it would be like he’s literally paying me to clean) but I don’t have any control of our finances, nor do I want control. My husband pays all the bills, moves money to our various savings accounts, and just leaves the rest of the spending up to me after giving me a general idea of how much we have left from that paycheck.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 8 points ago +8 / -0

The Jody thing is a thing for a reason.

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America1stAndOnly 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fucking Jody. Fuck that guy.

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FloridaGirl 2 points ago +2 / -0

I knew a guy when I was on active duty whose wife convinced him to reenlist at a time when our rating had a sweet, sweet SRB (good bonus). I don't know about now, but back then you got half the onus up front and then a portion every year for the remainder of your time. We left for a 6 month cruise and she drained the bank account and left for her home state while we were at sea. So he was not only left high and dry that way, but he was then stuck in the Navy for another 4 years.

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Trythisagain 3 points ago +3 / -0

Ditto!

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leetnessmonster 2 points ago +2 / -0

Need to add Alpha Male Strategies

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America1stAndOnly 1 point ago +1 / -0

Personally, I recommend number 13. That guy is a legend that speaks the truth about women, no fucks given.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 5 points ago +5 / -0

It's true, fren, and you are not the only one who has had to find this out the hard way.

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Cyer6 35 points ago +35 / -0

That woman would’ve drained his soul every day.

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ThisIsHowItStarts 33 points ago +33 / -0

This! She was planning on leaving for a long time. This was just her excuse. Megalomaniacs because of the vaccine

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talltellmanson 13 points ago +14 / -1

Exactly. I already mentioned to OP that almost no military marriages last more than a few years.

And they always drain the bank account before they leave too.

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ThisIsHowItStarts 27 points ago +27 / -0

Bitches. And I’m a woman. Yes women can be total bitches. Especially when they take the children, and use them as tools against their husbands. That’s the thing I despise the most. Because it only hurts the kids, well the kids the most but also the father. She had every intention of leaving. This is just a excuse. He’s better off without her, she would’ve dragged him his entire life. Now he has an opportunity find a real woman that will love him. Unjabbed

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PaulieM91 6 points ago +6 / -0

#PurebloodLivesMatter

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mugatucrazypills 3 points ago +3 / -0

The practice and language of the law views the children as her personal property at this point. He has to pay for access. Forever

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unemotioNOLE 5 points ago +5 / -0

she didnt take all the money for no reason, this was very calculated

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AngelMark 14 points ago +14 / -0

She has his kids though! That’s the real tough part!

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GrayManNumber333 12 points ago +12 / -0

She has his kids and is clearly deranged. That’s a lot to worry about.

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Keiichi81 1 point ago +1 / -0

You'd be right about him being better off if she hadn't stolen his kids and robbed him of every cent to his name in the process.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 2 points ago +2 / -0

Still better off, believe me.

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Belleoffreedom 131 points ago +131 / -0

So sorry to hear your soon-to-be ex-wife is not what you expected, for a partner.

Pay strict attention to your lawyer: you will need to protect yourself. Also, If you are going to be out-of-pocket, take pictures of your surroundings. You will be glad you got the date and time stamps. Make this a habit.

As for your kids, don't give up on them.

Do whatever you need to do, to keep your head on straight. Do not do anything stupid or final, for a while. Think this through. This is not about the jab, she's likely just using it.

If you are under pressure from your job, keep your head, make them fire you, and make them put it in writing.

And, for your kids, I hope you don't need it, but here's some information.

https://patriots.win/p/13zg9ibuWR/if-you-are-forced-to-take-the-va/

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mugatucrazypills 25 points ago +25 / -0

Even though the law is greatly biased towards women, you can still "win" through effective emotional regulation. You win by wearing them down on their own rules and procedures", camly, politely and like water drip by drip. Sooner or later she'll have a tantrum in front of a Judge or tell someone with actual power in the long dick of the state to fuck themselves and then she will be singing "I fought the law". Calmly say no to all of her demands.

One thing to remember is that women are told by our society that they can do whatever the fuck they want. And in a relationship that often translates to getting in the habit of abusing the fuck out of their partners verbally and emotionally(go to the mall and watch some broken shells of men walking around carrying their wifes purse figuratively). Modern marriage doesn't mean just getting a meal ticket and handout and an early retirement package and a magic fix for never taking responsibility or having a plan .... It's also means getting a man as a pet that you can abuse and treat cruelly behind closed doors while holding the power of the state to imprison and impoverish him or worse. The point is once she gets in the habit of being a cunt like that it's hard to turn off.

She'll turn on her lawyers, the kids, co-workers, girlfriends who told her to empower herself with a bunch of dicks, etc. She'll burn her bridges. You need to document all of it.

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brassmule 5 points ago +5 / -0

Also, If you are going to be out-of-pocket, take pictures of your surroundings. You will be glad you got the date and time stamps. Make this a habit.

Would you expound on this a little bit? Why would one be glad to have dates and time stamps on photos of your location when "out of pocket" ?

Is it to demonstrate later your location with a date and time in the event something is claimed by the other party in a divorce?

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Judicator 8 points ago +8 / -0

Pretty sure that's exactly what that's about.

If the person is playing the victim game now, how long before they try it again? If they get their way every time they do it, surely they'll keep doing it?

If OP doesn't have documentation proving their location regularly, they'll potentially be in hot water.l

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Looatyourself [S] 91 points ago +95 / -4

Joint account. Fully legal, although morally reprehensible.

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DeadOverRed 159 points ago +159 / -0

It's not legal. It's dissipation and it will be subtracted from what she gets. Of course, she'll get everything cuz she's a woman.

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Looatyourself [S] 80 points ago +82 / -2

I hate that you’re right.

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kernel 63 points ago +65 / -2

You need to transition now. Pretend you are a woman too. Fake woman trumps real woman nowadays.

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4more 33 points ago +33 / -0

Might help to say you wanted to transition the children and she is divorcing because of it.

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TrumpTrain_531 21 points ago +21 / -0

"My heteronormative transphobic partner is not allowing me and my children (who use xem/xir pronouns) to get the trauma-informed gender-affirming therapy that we need!"

Instant win, it's like a cheat code.

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Bigstick7 9 points ago +10 / -1

Fuck that shit, don't sacrifice your morals for money. Don't roll over and take it, but stay true to yourself and keep your self respect.

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pepecurious 5 points ago +5 / -0

kek

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America1stAndOnly 3 points ago +3 / -0

No. Definitely don't do that one. If the judge is crazy enough, they might accept that excuse and then order mandatory transitioning bullshit for the kids. So, no. Not that tactic. It has the potential to go horribly wrong.

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spezisacuckold 8 points ago +8 / -0

Better yet just say you "identify" as a woman and scream at any judge that looks at you the wrong way. Seems to work wonders nowadays.

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penguinjay1212 1 point ago +1 / -0

I hope that gave OP a little chuckle. Gotta joke a bit in a grim situation.

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CucksForTheDonald 4 points ago +4 / -0

Don't give into doom and gloom. It's a shame you need to fight this woman, but you chose to have this battle sooner or later when you married her. Apparently, she wasn't the right choice.

I've seen reasonable men fight unreasonable former wives in family court, over children and property, and they prevailed. Be smart, be patient, be calm. Document everything in case she comes up with allegations. It's a marathon.

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ciemPepe 4 points ago +4 / -0

The comments about transitioning might sound like a joke but if it is what it takes to win, do it. I'd do it. You dont have surgically transition just dress up

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Richard_Dangler 3 points ago +3 / -0

I got a laugh out of it but depending on the state it might actually give OP some power. Honestly wouldnt even have to dress up. Just say that he broke the news to the wife and she went ballistic and is using the vax as her argument to keep from being viewed as an "ist"

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heightnoise 3 points ago +3 / -0

You're already losing if you give up hope. He's NOT right. Yes, it's more likely than not, but not guaranteed. And rest assured, in the core of your being, that in the future your children will thank you for standing up for them.

Here's the key: Don't go buy bourbon, don't open up a scrap book, and turn over every photo of her in the home. If it's just your kids, or your kids and you, take those and go to the kitchen counter.

Use today and tomorrow to go to 1) your bank, 2) your mortgage provider, 3) your local clerk of court, 4) whatever military services hold records related to your pension/benefits/compensations, and 5) your kids' pediatrician. I do not know if you got a prenup (I hope you did) but if not you NEED to speak to a family law lawyer that does matrimonial regimes so you can start navigating. If you DO, get the original and make several copies to distribute to legal counsel. At the bank, get your account history for your Joint Account, and all separate accounts. Keep the later secret if they still are, but tell your lawyer. At the mortgage provider, get all information on the loan (including how much left, who's been paying and how much) and make copies. Do not tell them your situation yet. From your clerk, get records of all immovable property (ie land) that you have bought or sold, and all records of title to any other relevant movable property. Make sure to record from what accounts/who was paying those notes and how much. From military, you NEED to protect your well-earned comp for your service, its a fixed income and I know too many Dear Johns that came back home to find hard-to-prove identity fraud. Lastly, before you go to the pediatrician collect some evidence of the vaccines being potentially dangerous for children; show 'em the Project Veritas videos. EXPLAIN why you are a concerned parent, and wish to protect your children, and that you're well-researched. The doctor will help with what he can release, but what you need most is a letter of endorsement. Not "I agree completely" kinda letter, that's too much to ask, but more like "This is the father of my patient, who has demonstrated good faith in researching a medical decision for their child...". This won't be your expert, but it WILL shut down the knee-jerk reaction of her counsel to allude you as a conspiracy nutjob who's unfit for custody.

Saturday morning, get a coffee pot on, sit down and start accounting for everything. Look at your kids while you do; it's for them, not her. Organize everything, have a short explanation for your major expenses, and prepare it for your lawyer.

Not only will this help your lawyer save time (and you money), but it also shows your diligence in the eyes of a judge. The bias towards mothers in custody is because there's a "presumption" that women are more nurturing/caring parents. Prove the bitch wrong. Also, it will help kickstart the accounting of your worth/incomes/debts and what YOU contributed during the marriage regime. These are used for asset division calculus, as well as child support, and getting a head start can only serve you.

God bless you. You've done nothing wrong, and have held to your convictions. You have honor, and I wish you well. God bless you, now lawyer up and get a move-on. You've got your kids to save.

Spez: Sorry I forgot, but I'm bound to say: This is NOT legal advice.

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MasksAreChildAbuse 1 point ago +1 / -0

What state are you in? There’s some good lawyers out there.

http://www.jcprattlaw.com/contract-dispute/

Her husband is family law, and he fights for men in divorces. Call for a consultation.

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__I_dindu__nufin_ 19 points ago +19 / -0

Don't doom OP too bad, he's gonna get lawyered up and take it one step at a time. Let's wish him the best here

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notCIA 5 points ago +5 / -0

He doesn't have time for that. He has to initiate everything first, and maybe he'll have a chance if he does. Claim she went psycho and stole the kids. Get restraining orders against her and report them kidnapped if she refuses to being them back. As of now he is legally entitled to 50% custody as no arrangements have been made.

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Deplora 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nope. In the absence of a previous custody order, the parents have joint custody and either one of them is free to take the children anywhere they choose. That's just the status quo in any marriage in the US where the parents share biological children. Neither parent needs permission from the other to do anything with the children that would be legal if both parents did it together.

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notCIA 2 points ago +2 / -0

No, a parent can commit kidnapping. If he is barred from seeing the kids he has a case.

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DeadOverRed 3 points ago +4 / -1

I think a realistic picture helps one make the right decisions.

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DeadOverRed 1 point ago +1 / -0

In fact, he should probably know that courts will do nothing if she takes his kids across borders and jabs them against his will.

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glasses2020 -2 points ago +1 / -3

OP doesn't sound very smart.

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__I_dindu__nufin_ 6 points ago +6 / -0

Doesn't have to be for me to wish him well. He wants to be a good father and I'll pray for that

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refresco 10 points ago +10 / -0

It really depends on the amount she "cleared out".

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DeadOverRed 16 points ago +17 / -1

Anything over her normal necessary expenses is disallowed. Emptying an account is pretty much automatically dissipation, even if it's a $100 account of a poor family.

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Deplora 4 points ago +4 / -0

Careful. This is a state law issue, and state laws vary tremendously.

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here_holdmybeer 7 points ago +7 / -0

Not if you get a decent lawyer that enjoys the fight. For sure the deck is stacked against men, but a good lawyer, good documentation, and keeping your cool goes a LONG way.

Also, unless a court orders you, DO NOT MOVE OUT OF YOUR HOUSE. Once you move out, 98% of the time, you're never getting back in.

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DeadOverRed 1 point ago +3 / -2

Hahah most states are going to kick you out anyway.

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DeadOverRed 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well, I think that's what was meant by "this is legal." It's really none of the bank's business what you do with your money, is it? I mean, we all complain when they cancel people for buying guns or supporting conservatives, and rightly so. As far as the bank is concerned, any authorized account holder can use the money however they wish.

Banking rules aren't the only rules that apply to your money, though.

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TomWolfsTinyDick 5 points ago +5 / -0

Why I don't have a joint account; because I like to sleep at night. I feel for you but there had to be more to it than the jab, that was a convenient excuse. Maybe a good thing in retrospect except the kids, thats what sucks. Godspeed.

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AngelMark 1 point ago +1 / -0

You don’t have a side savings/checking account? My husband keeps an account at another bank w money! I keep mine in our safe!

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50_stars_for_freedom 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’m a woman, but circumstances like this is why I’ll enter marriage with a private emergency bank account.

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Bullet3250 73 points ago +78 / -5

Happened to me...

As I see it...

Women are unstable... feel sorry for the kids...

women DON'T WANT INFORMATION... they DO want to 'feel safe' - and with the MSM PBS NPR pounding COVID fear daily... critical info gets lost.

Society has women 'using men' as place holders... just for their own security... They do not seem to understand honor or trust, at all anymore.

Nor do they see their own ACTIONS as harming children... and it will of course...

Top doctor in the US states 'vaccines contra-indicated for children.

https://www.truthforhealth.org/2021/08/childrens-risk-of-covid-and-covid-vaccines/

This boat is big... you are not alone.

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conservativeyuppie 84 points ago +85 / -1

Idk, I'm a woman who refuses to wear a mask and I was on the elevator of my building one time and a masked guy with his masked kid refused to get on with me. Some other guy on another occasion on the elevator literally interrogated me if I was vaccinated and stopped talking to me once I said no and why. I feel like the grandma in the simulation in Fallout 3 who's the only one who knows she's in a simulation and everyone else thinks she's the crazy one.

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Bigger_igloo 33 points ago +33 / -0

Take solace in knowing you're smarter and fitter for survival. Sadly, stupid people seem to be multiplying faster, but we're fine. F*ck em if they want to be ruled by emotion.

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Flatulenator 1 point ago +1 / -0

Basing your decisions on emotion is a quicker way to get fucked in this society. But some TDS patients enjoy that sort of thing.

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QMAB 23 points ago +23 / -0

Same here, sister. I've decided not to give in and stick to my guns. I have a history of self doubt, being gaslit and naive to others' intentions, trying to fit in and not cause any trouble.

I'm fuckin' done with that shit. Hang in there.

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TheMadManDidItAgain 14 points ago +14 / -0

Response when somebody asks if you are vaccinated... "Are you?" and when they inevitably answer "yes" or "of course" then you can politely say "ok then, what are you worried about, you're safe." and be on your way. When they push you further, ask them if they have HIV, Herpes, etc... ask them when the last time they made a bowel movement was. Keep asking them health questions.

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Ironlabel1 13 points ago +13 / -0

Your fallout 3 reference is perfect!

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conservativeyuppie 8 points ago +8 / -0

I'm in the DC area too, so I literally feel like I'm living in Tranquility Lane. All my coworkers are highly educated professionals who are very quantitative and know data (and almost all are men) and yet they talk about testing their kids for covid and cancelling trips over it and getting their vaccinations. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

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retahded 2 points ago +2 / -0

The propoganda is so amped up these days. It is so much louder and distracting now than it was even 3-5 years ago. I promise you're not crazy. You can always leave, too. I left a deep blue state myself this last year, and it's been an outstanding decision.

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Ironlabel1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sheep be sheep!

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JeanGrey 37 points ago +38 / -1

I'm a woman and never wear a mask anywhere. Im ready to HANG all commies. I will die before I take the VAX. Its not women that are dumb, its humanity as a whole. I look around and I am so disappointed and ashamed of humanity. "Men" and women are stupid face diaper wearing commies and they're everywhere.

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Miztivin 11 points ago +12 / -1

I don't think they are saying women are dumb. But statistically women vote left far greater than men. We are emotional thinkers by nature. We do have some differences in our psyche that make us more predisposition to fall for the fear brainwashing they use.

However, that doesn't mean there arent a lot of smart, logical women pedes out there like ourselves.

I just know our fellow men are having a much harder time than we do finding good partners that hold the same values. They're also more likely to getting screwed in courts and custody. So I can understand the frustration. Its not a personal attack on us.

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sun_wolf 8 points ago +9 / -1

Have you seen the election maps that show what the country would look like if only men voted or only women voted or only whites voted or only blacks voted?

In the men only vote, I think it is all 50 states going to Trump, or close to it, and all women voting, it’s all 50 states going to Democrats, or close to it.

There are obviously thousands and thousands of based, natural, feminine women out there, but those demographic maps are hard to deny. I think it’s fair to say that if women had zero political power or any say over how society functioned, the Covid hoax would not have happened and children would not be forced to wear slave muzzles all day.

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Miztivin 4 points ago +4 / -0

Oh I have.

I wouldnt go as far to say if women didnt have any say things would be better cough entirety of human history and the middle east cough

Lol

Edit: I do agree on the covid point. It hits women in the feels and their protective nature instinct.

But I think if women were truly treated like equals in the competitive nature of all things. Even politics. And not given easy passes based on being women, things would be much better.

Some of our best and toughest political allies are women.

Jordan Peterson has a great view point on all of this.

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sun_wolf 5 points ago +5 / -0

Just a second comment here to further clarify.

I know how strange and wrong it sounds to say something like, “If women were stripped of all political power...”, and obviously like anyone I have women in my life who I would not want to be forced to live as second-class citizens. At the same time I have come to see women’s flaws or weaknesses (susceptibility to emotional propaganda, especially) as western culture’s Achille’s heel, and I think that vulnerability is being exploited by our enemies to destroy society, which then harms women and children.

So it’s complicated, and it puts men in this position of feeling they need to limit women to protect women. It’s not that I want women to have no power or ability to shape society, because they’ve always had that power as homemakers and mothers raising the next generation, and even through their influence over their husbands, which is powerful.

But when it comes to military-level propaganda attacks by foreign nations, or any form of warfare, I really just want women out of those rooms to let men handle it. I just don’t think women have evolved the level of steely cruelty to demolish our enemies the way they need to be demolished, nor do I even want women to really develop that mentality, as it would deeply conflict with their nurturing nature, which I think is sacred and beautiful. A good example of this was the Syrian (now Afghani) refugees flooding into the west. Men were able to look at that and go, “These are all single, military-aged men. This is an invasion of foreign soldiers.” And then once they see that, something flips in a man and he feels no sympathy. A man could have watched all those men drown in the ocean and feel nothing, or maybe even feel happiness. I don’t think women are built for that. I think they would hear those men’s dying, drowning screams and picture the young boys they once were and want to mother them. At the last minute they would yell, “Okay okay! Throw them a dingy! We will take them in and make them sandwiches! Through our kindness and love we will teach them to be good boys again!” Again, by itself and in other contexts that instinct is not bad, but in a modern warfare situation, when your land and country is under threat, it is terrible. A man simply sees them as the enemy, and that’s it.

And incidentally, my own views on voting would actually disallow my own vote, so this isn’t really selfish or self-aggrandizing. I actually try to look at it from that big picture perspective and not just make it about what I would personally want. Oh and men also have their own weaknesses and vulnerabilities just like women do - they just happen to be different ones that don’t put our society under the same direct and immediate threat.

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Miztivin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thank you. This is a wonderfully wordered reply and I agree on a lot of what you said. I know exactly what you mean about the logical security behind the idea. Chinas not sending women to plan out battle strategies for a reason. Were susceptible to counter intelligence. I know.

I think the remedy however, still, is to have true equality. What we have now is not equality. Its leaverage to create an illusion of "equality" based on pen and paper statistics.

"Not enough women to men ratio in the military. Lower the standards for women to increase those numbers."

Thats not equality. True equality I theorize would bring out more traditionalism as it is our natural flow, and a strong society with a healthy cuture. A healthier society would be less susceptible to propaganda and insurrection tactics as well. Look at Japan for instance.

I go into detail in my last reply if interested, but its just a longer winded version of this lol.

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sun_wolf 3 points ago +3 / -0

Middle East isn’t falling for Covid-19 or LGBTQIAAP+ either though, so that kind of makes my point. Obviously I don’t want to live under Sharia Law, but I have been forced over time to acknowledge that their social setup has protected them from globohomo in a way that ours has not.

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Miztivin 1 point ago +2 / -1

(Sorry for the TL:DR)

Agreed on that premise. However it still by far, not a perfect society. Neither is the current western one.

I think if things were to be equall, truly equal. Society would naturally become more traditional.

We've never had a society like that so I can't say for sure. Id imagine..

There would be far less entitled mindless women in politics. (Men are extreamly competitive compared to women) Less females would make the cut in the military. Men would have equal opportunities in courts.

Women would still win more custody battles and have more benifits, to a rational degree, simply because.. Pay gaps would remain the same. Women aren't suited to work like men. For example, pulling 7/12s in a plant. They are, however, better equiped for the very mentally demanding job of child care. Kudos to us.

That should not be the auto defalt tho. Thats not fair or equal.

Good men have an objectivly heavier burden than women. Not that good women dont work our butts off too. Men simply have the provider/protector archetype and thats tough.

Women dont want that role. Not really. We want the opportunity to persue it if we wish, or if we need (single moms) and some women do strive in that environment. I know a lady that is a plant worker who does work 7/12s and makes bank for instance.

I think a world like that would be far more balanced and traditional, as its undeniably ​the naturally flow of things.

The current one kinda shits on the whole idea of equality. Its inverted and perverted. Which makes us resentful to the idea, but thats not really the idea, is it?

Commies hate the natural order of things. I blame them.

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TheMadManDidItAgain 8 points ago +8 / -0

Honestly, I can't say I feel the guy feels women are dumb. Certainly he has an axe to grind because the system, generally, is against the father when there is a separation.

I do feel that he has a point, but doesn't articulate it very well. I feel, naturally, that women are nurturing and also want a man who can provide and protect her children. I'm not saying that's all they want, but women are hardwired for that... it's why women gush over hard working men.

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Wholelottarosie1776 13 points ago +14 / -1

Agreed. Woman can rest comfortably in their feminine around a masculine man. If a man is weak, wishy washy, emotional (like a woman) then it's a turn off. Masculine doesn't mean muscles, it means doing the right thing, having courage and not being a follower.

Men complain about crappy women (which there are plenty of) but there is no shortage of beta males, even so called Patriots.

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Wholelottarosie1776 5 points ago +5 / -0

Fellow lady pede checking in! I'm with you!

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MuhNameJeff 3 points ago +3 / -0

Same here. FREE HELICOPTER RIDES FOR DIRTY COMMIES

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mshecubis 13 points ago +14 / -1

There are a lot of activists and protestors in my neighborhood fighting against covid tyranny. They're organized and spend almost all their free time and energy to fight for freedom.

And they're almost exclusively women. Very few men are openly and loudly resisting here. The men are either falling into despair and giving up, or like myself, are working behind the scenes to come up with plans to try and save themselves and their immediate families.

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TheMadManDidItAgain 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yeah, interesting. My wife is emailing, calling, etc... she spends evenings doing this. Me, I end up working at night. But, I have built up a plan and have backups in place if grocery stores are out of business, or power goes down, or water becomes contaminated, I have protection in place, and plenty of high valuable items for bartering that I feel are somewhat useless except for bartering (seriously, beer is great for bartering, but not worth much in survival if you have a source of clean water and calories). If we have no heat or electricity, I have plans in place for us to remain unfrozen and to not cause major damage to the house. My plan is only good for a few months at most until we would have to really clamp down (I need more food and to have better water distillation equipment), and I could use more weapons, but I have what I need to survive a few months. I feel that would be enough until some semblance of order is restored.

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sun_wolf 8 points ago +8 / -0

It’s partially because men have had to go underground. This started years ago. It’s like that video of the based Chinese woman ripping up OKCupid homo porn in the subways of New York. She was brave to do that, but she also knows she cannot be prosecuted for that because she is double-protected from the law by being both a woman and Chinese. Even if they wanted to arrest and prosecute her, her lawyer could go to the media, turn her into a sob story, call it systemic sexism and racism, and the law would fold.

But if a straight white man did that? It would be a homophobic hate crime, the corporate media would destroy his name and reputation, his employer would be forced to fire him, friends would be forced to disassociate, family would be shamed by their connection to him, and he would probably go to jail for 10 - 15 years with no possibility of parole.

So when women “stand up”, they are doing so under totally different conditions and consequences at this point. I appreciate that they are picking up where men went underground, but it’s not because men are not strong or full of will. It’s because the situation is completely different for us.

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mshecubis 3 points ago +3 / -0

That's a valid point, but I think it's also that most of us understand that the modern way of dealing with societal issues through protests and court cases are coming to end.

Our women are trying to give modern society one last chance. The men are preparing for the inevitable.

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sun_wolf 2 points ago +2 / -0

I also think it’s moving to a point where even a Chinese woman, or any other protected identity group, will be in the same boat as men. I think we’ve already started to see this with straight white women, who first threw straight white men under the bus thinking they would be protected, only to see the same evil turn on them.

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Wholelottarosie1776 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes Ive noticed that as well in nyc

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Wholelottarosie1776 9 points ago +9 / -0

Vetting is important. I'm a woman and single because I won't date or entertain a man that does not share the values, integrity, freedom, honesty, truth, courage, loyalty to name a few. I was talking to a good looking guy on LI, patriot, seemed to be compatible on everything BUT he told me to just get the jab, I'll be fine. Instant red flag and no for me. I cannot be with someone that will easily bow to tyranny. It shows me as a woman that you will not protect me with more important things. I cannot submit or be in my feminine with a weak man, no woman can.

Listen to what people say and watch what they do. It's easy to get caught up in " dat ass, dat chest, dat car," the physical. Control your lust and use your brain and intuition.

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Nyredgal 5 points ago +5 / -0

Im with you sister

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Bullet3250 2 points ago +3 / -1

Most of us guys are pretty simple.... and we mostly only want to see a happy wife - that makes us better overall - stronger - confident. Women that are constantly worried, constantly complaining, need to emotionally vent every day about everything... etc - really drag us down (even when we don't say it does.)

I sometimes think women should really talk amongst themselves much more... and talk to their men allot less.

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pepecurious 5 points ago +5 / -0

| They do not seem to understand honor or trust, at all anymore.

Always has been. That's in the first few pages of the bible bro, this is ancient western wisdom.

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gloriouschairmanpao 63 points ago +64 / -1

File a police report. If she took the kids without your consent, it's parental kidnapping. Very rarely if ever will a cop arrest a mother for doing this, but it's ammunition you can take with you into court.

As others have said, start documenting every single thing. And get to the best divorce lawyer in your area before she does.

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DeadOverRed 8 points ago +9 / -1

Yep, it's ammunition in court. Ammunition that they'll dodge and ignore until kids reach majority, or she actually starts physically hurting them.

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RiMjObZ4dAyZ -2 points ago +4 / -6

It's not kidnapping unless you have a custody agreement.

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HuggableBear 7 points ago +10 / -3

A marriage is a legal custody agreement

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RiMjObZ4dAyZ 1 point ago +3 / -2

No, it's not.

In fact, California has a Parental Kindnapping law, and the charge is beaten almost every time there is no custody order.

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ThisTrainHasNoBrakes 2 points ago +2 / -0

You are being downvotes but you are correct. Parents without court orders in place can take their children anywhere they want without the other’s say-so.

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gloriouschairmanpao 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not incorrect, just incomplete. Parental kidnapping does include violations of a court-ordered custody agreement, as you said, but also includes one parent taking the child(ren) for purposes of concealment, at least in most jurisdictions. Possible there’s an exception to that in some states.

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TardedButNotDeparted 1 point ago +3 / -2

Moving the kids from the marriage home without consent is kidnapping.

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RiMjObZ4dAyZ 1 point ago +2 / -1

I hope you're not this gullible when your spouse takes your kids and leaves.

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TardedButNotDeparted 0 points ago +1 / -1

I'm not dumb enough to have a wife or kids lol

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Cavemantrump 39 points ago +41 / -2

She has another Man they Allways do Just wait and Watch.. I wish you Luck wisdom and peace..

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no_antifa 13 points ago +13 / -0

This

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WormSign 11 points ago +11 / -0

Most monkeys swinging don't let go of the branch until they have firm grip on the next

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rosie 35 points ago +35 / -0

So sad to hear this, pede. Praying for you.

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JeanGrey 29 points ago +30 / -1

I'm sorry but what a disgusting cunt. I was with a man for 11 years whom I didn't realize was a cuck until Trump ran for office. Of course he rushed to take the VAX. Now I'm with a REAL man who is a true patriot. Trust me you are much better off.

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Philhelm 8 points ago +8 / -0

You ditched that cuck Cyclops for Wolverine?

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America1stAndOnly 3 points ago +3 / -0

When I was a kid I liked Wolverine more than Cyclops cause he did what he want and didn't care what others wanted. As I grew up, I realized that Cyclops is better because he really is a good leader for the X-Men and a positive role model for people. At least, he was until Marvel let people who hated Cyclops write his character and turn him into a total asshole. Oh well, all superheroes have been ruined by this point.

Final sidenote though, Cyclops is the one who was banging Jean Grey while Wolverine was laying alone in the other room crying night after night about how Jean should be with him instead.

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Philhelm 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fair enough.

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penguinjay1212 7 points ago +7 / -0

I am such a sucker for a happy ending.

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free_thought_police 4 points ago +4 / -0

Relationship wise maybe he is. But did you miss the part where she took the kids?

I don't think he's thinking of his next wife right now. I think his main concern is never getting to see his kids again and having them be forced to take a dangerous experimental shot of medicine from the government.

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JeanGrey 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes you're right and he needs to get his kids far away from this monster.

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DestroyerofCobwebs 28 points ago +28 / -0

Be good to your kids. That's really all that matters from now on, as far as your relationship with her goes.

Be good to the kids, and eventually, years from now, they'll put the truth together for themselves. They always do, I've seen it happen too many times. Never badmouth her around them or to them, just focus on being good to them. She won't be able to help herself, will shit on you constantly....and the kids will remember.

Women who do this kind of shady crap have a tendency to live out their elder years bitter and alone.

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swift_water 9 points ago +9 / -0

Yup, it's a long haul but kids absolutely put it together for themselves.

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penguinjay1212 4 points ago +4 / -0

was gonna say, +1 to your anecdote. My buddy doesn't blame his dad one bit for leaving, he put together the reality of the situation at around 21 years old while still living in his mothers house and he started to receive the resentful treatment and his sister is nuts, so it was a total Gilbert Grape situation.

The kids eventually figure it out. They always do. They choose favorites, but they definitely remember what happened to them and why.

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Stanwyk74 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yep. All fun and gsmes until u are old and alone.

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Littleirishmaid 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is very wise advice.

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N900mixalot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Man. Came here to say this!

Best advice, period.

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Shenanigunz 23 points ago +23 / -0

PM me, I would love to order you some dinner pede. Seriously.

Sorry you are going through this. I too am going through a divorce. It will get so much better for you, you might meet a woman who is loyal to you and shares your same values.

Lots of pretty single women at the Trump rally I went to. just sayin

Take care of yourself.

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SuperMario 6 points ago +6 / -0

For real. Let us know at what state you're in. I'm sure some locals would love to hang out and talk.

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Sheprecon31 18 points ago +18 / -0

Revenge is a dish best served cold don't get mad stay calm get even BIG LOVE BROTHER

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StealyJoe 18 points ago +18 / -0

Pede, I’ll buy ya dinner or groceries. I know you’re not asking, but neither am I. Which funding site is MAGA frenly for a pede in need?

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Looatyourself [S] 13 points ago +14 / -1

That’s incredibly kind. Most of the comments here have been amazing. I even got a message about a fellowship group I can join. You all are amazing.

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20KAG20 5 points ago +5 / -0

If shit gets crazier, give me a message. I’ll happily help you out as well. I’ll be on a hunting trip till Sunday just as a heads up I’m not ignoring you.

Wishing the best for you pede.

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StealyJoe 3 points ago +3 / -0

You’re all set. Wish it could be more my friend.

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leetnessmonster 1 point ago +1 / -0

Post the link in your first post, we'd be glad to help.

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paulej 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'll help too, if needed. There's no reason to let a working man go hungry at no fault of his own.

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ChiefCRON 18 points ago +18 / -0

Stand strong pedes, we are here with you.

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__I_dindu__nufin_ 17 points ago +17 / -0

Good luck pede, I'll give you the BOTD this isn't a larp.

She can't just dip out and take the kids from you legally. Your lawyer will know what to do, women think they own the kids all the time and try to do that. Take it slow and don't let her trip you up with sneaky emotional games and taunts. Do everything through your lawyer the way he says to do it exactly and you will have a strong case.

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swift_water 11 points ago +11 / -0

Aye, the crossing the state lines thing is a big no no legally. Women think they own their kids, and its shown time and time again in courts that they do not. Even judge Judy has shown that countless times.

It's a check that bounces everytime they try.

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__I_dindu__nufin_ 4 points ago +4 / -0

They'll try to get you to slip up first though, I have known guys who had "baby mommas" doing very crazy shit to make them mad or smear them or provoke them into doing something that could be used against them.

Be stoic.

Not "you" but just fathers in general fighting for their kids

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DeadOverRed -5 points ago +4 / -9

Bad news - she totally can. No police nor any court in any state will sanction a mother for taking kids. Don't try to take them back, though- fathers get charged with kidnapping all the time.

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__I_dindu__nufin_ 3 points ago +3 / -0

All you can do is use the court and keep your case tight. Don't EVER give up on your kids in Clown World unless you want them molested and dead.

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DeadOverRed 4 points ago +5 / -1

The state doesn't care if your kids are molested and dead.

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__I_dindu__nufin_ 4 points ago +4 / -0

No, they don't, which is why you've got to have an air-tight case and keep your mind healthy and positive to focus on protecting them

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Msmcontrolsnarrative 13 points ago +13 / -0

Where is this happening?

Are there some fellow pedes nearby who could help you out?

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Runfree 12 points ago +12 / -0

Hang Tough. When your wife and children get sick from the jab, that will be the real test.

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notCIA 12 points ago +12 / -0

If you are not given contact with your kids upon request, and she has no restraining order, report the children kidnapped. I'm not kidding, this is urgent. Immediately apply for custody and if possible get a restraining order against her for yourself and the children under any grounds you can come up with, including her flight liability. Get a lawyer and serve her with papers first. I'm serious, you have to do this now or your kids are lost.

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Tycobbsalad 11 points ago +11 / -0

Yea....if true that's crazy....God bless this man and his family..please...Amen.

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GreatHumungous 11 points ago +11 / -0

GODDAMN!!

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Wupta 11 points ago +11 / -0

My first wife totally crapped in me broke my heart and destroyed my life. Years later met the second wife and 20yrs later I’ve got a beautiful family and last night I slept cuddling her. It will work out you’ll see.

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Fakename 10 points ago +10 / -0

Bye bitch

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Magamom 10 points ago +10 / -0

Oh pede...sending you hugs! Im sorry.

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BlondeBombshell88 9 points ago +9 / -0

What state are you in? My dad is a MAGA family attorney. He might be able to help

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Looatyourself [S] 5 points ago +6 / -1

Florida. Tampa; to be exact.

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Liberals_Suck 9 points ago +9 / -0

I went through a similar situation, except she didn't completely drain the bank account. I now have full custody of our child. It's not supposed to matter who pursues legal action first, but I can tell you from experience that if you're in the right and you strike first and you are persistent, you can win easily, even in a liberal shit hole. Women like this are fucking terrible at actually accomplishing anything of significance, anything. They will crumble especially under fierce pressure from your lawyer. I served mine on Christmas fucking morning. No mercy, go so hard legally that you should feel bad, and then don't feel bad. Good luck.

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RiverFenix 3 points ago +3 / -0

There's a huge difference between going through that sort of thing when you're established (house, car, salary etc) versus as a 'young' couple in their early twenties.

It can be extremely hard to defend yourself as a young man. Took me 11 years to get back to where I was financially when that hornets nest got kicked open.

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OrangeElvis 9 points ago +9 / -0

Had the same happen to me, however I caught her half way emptying our home of all valuables. She left with kids and my attorney said immediately change the locks on the house. I ended up with full custody in the end.

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MohaveSkipper 8 points ago +8 / -0

Contact the authorities that your children have been kidnapped. Do it today!

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thinkforurself 8 points ago +8 / -0

As a woman, I want to tell you I’m so so sorry. Both to you and everyone else who has suffered through the abuse of the privilege that women get in this country that only we can say out loud. I can’t imagine the pain that so many men have been through. God has blessed us with an ability to connect psychologically, so that we can be the heart of the home. Instead so many of us turn it around to be vindictively cruel in a way men can’t even conceive. We have manipulation down to a science and men can’t compete. Instead they get stomped down at our whims. We constantly hear how superior they’re treated in this country when the truth is no, we have the courts wrapped around our finger anytime we choose.

I will be praying for you that God leads you to a woman that isn’t like that. That honors you and cherishes you and respects you just like she expects you to cherish and honor and respect her. In the meantime don’t go through this alone. See if you can get financial help from a church, depend on friends, talk to other guys who have been through this. God bless you.

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papa_newguineapig 8 points ago +8 / -0

Hit me up if you need a pizza hommie, ain't no one going through this going hungry if I have something to say about it.

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CrankyCrab 8 points ago +8 / -0

Wow...this says a lot about your wife's character. Sounds like your relationship was never real. You were just a funding source.

You will get through this. Do everything your lawyer says and follow through on the divorce. Don't cuck out and don't fall for any games your wife plays. She will likely use the kids to try to get what she wants.

When you get through all this and spend some being single, find a based lady pede. Good luck.

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Forgedmale 7 points ago +7 / -0

OPEN A NEW BANK ACCOUNT AND CANCEL YOUR DIRECT DEPOSIT TOMORROW MORNING FIRST THING.

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Steven_IDGAF_Miller 7 points ago +7 / -0

So sorry to hear about the kids.

If you haven't already, change your passwords on EVERYTHING. Do It Now!

Email, bank website logins, Facebook, social media, computers, etc, etc.

Change the passcode on your phone.

Randomize those passwords - DO NOT use kids birthdays, middle names, etc. etc. Anything she could possibly know or figure out.

If she is willing to take all of your money and your kids without a word, she is liable to do just about anything. She could have all your passwords and start posting things, writing emails posing as you, etc.

Anything to make you look like the bad person and make herself look better in the eyes of the court.

Most importantly. Stay Strong. Get with your friends in person and stick together. True friends will help you get through this.

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LuckyEwe 6 points ago +6 / -0

This! A million times, this!

A woman that will take your kids will do anything, don't think "well ____ would be too far, she wouldn't do that". Prepare! Cover all your bases and change all your passwords. Put a hold on all your cards. Go to cash only for a while.

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DefenderDad 6 points ago +6 / -0

Record all of it.

Close your current bank account.

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NOTWOKE 6 points ago +6 / -0

Sorry pal. Head up.

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Deplorable_bastard 5 points ago +5 / -0

Sorry about this, stay strong for yourself and your children. Prayers sent!

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Daniel644 5 points ago +5 / -0

get an Amber Alert called in man.

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DeplorableLA 5 points ago +5 / -0

I hate to hear this. My former hub drained our accounts too (26 yrs ago), I know the feeling. I lived on spare change for about a month that he overlooked when heading out. The only good thing about it was it sealed the deal, immediate closure.

Your kids need both parents. If the jab is more important to her than you, so be it. You deserve better. Your kids deserve better.

Be kind to yourself and the kids. I hope you hired an attorney with a really bad attitude, one who usually wins these types of cases. Give him/her permission to go full throttle on the ex. Keep talking to your chaplain. And, if so inclined, give us Pedes an update now and again. We are pulling for you.

Peace out. Prayers up.

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Aoikaze2000 5 points ago +5 / -0

Time for you to figure out how to fight for full custody of your kids, get your assets back, and divorce her ass immediately.

You may also want to divert your pay into a second bank account, and close out all existing credit cards. If she's going to play hardball, time for you to cut her off financially. Whether you want to admit it or not, your marriage is over, and it's better to just shoot it now so you can start healing.

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Based45 4 points ago +4 / -0

I’m sorry friend, I’m at a loss for words. I’ll pray for you.

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Ghostof_PatrickHenry 4 points ago +4 / -0

Lord, put your divine hands on this man and lift him up. Help guide him through this evil world, and into your eternal kingdom.

Amen.

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CaptainButthurt 4 points ago +4 / -0

My ex wife taught me the hard way that its important to have a separate bank account.

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n4freedom 4 points ago +4 / -0

Remember through all of this too to do everything in your power to protect your kids from the chaos and don't bad mouth their mother to them. They will hate you for it later on because they want to love both of you regardless, it's how kids are. They'll figure out when they're older who screwed who over most likely. Don't expect the same integrity from her though, which means she may work to turn the kids against you when they're younger and more impressionable, but they'll hate her for it when older. None of this is easy, you'll have my prayers, lean on God. Sorry to hear this.

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RiverFenix 1 point ago +1 / -0

good advice.

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Dereliction 4 points ago +4 / -0

Your champion attitude shows that you'll get through this on top, whatever comes. The icing is that you're not wrong -- the jab is bad for you, bad for your kids. That may not fill your stomach tonight, but it will satiate you in the years that look back.

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HeavyMetalPatriot 4 points ago +4 / -0

Call upon your male friends. Ask for their help. If they're worth a damn as men, they will step up. You need the support of other men during times like these. You are not alone and unfortunately, your story is sadly not uncommon. Also, watch your lawyer like a hawk and don't trust a damn thing. The family law system is designed to fuck men and their children. There's a website called AVVO.com where you can see how lawyers are rated, but more importantly, there are thousands of legal questions answered by lawyers and I know that you can see what other military fathers are getting as advice for their situations.

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notCIA 4 points ago +4 / -0

OP, PM me if you need anything. I'm serious.

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krzyzowiec 4 points ago +4 / -0

This is a good lesson for other men. Never ever share your bank account with your wife. Always have your own account and have her run what she needs by you.

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mustangjayyyme 3 points ago +3 / -0

Or really don't marry a cunt. Make sure the person you marry is on the same page with you 100%...especially NOW. Because that's just not what you do. I had an ex-boyfriend do it to me too. Only shitty scum of the earth humans do that. Esp with kids...fortunately I didn't have any with him, and learned a good lesson.

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krzyzowiec 2 points ago +2 / -0

The problem is that women tend to conceal their worst behavior until after marriage. Personally I think the red flags are easily spotted before, but many men get fooled or overlook them on account of her beauty, and by then the snare is set and he's a goner.

Even in a healthy marriage, there is no reason to have a joint account. The man should have a his own account, and the woman should have her own account that he deposits money into every month. It's a good way to limit spending, since men don't require much, and women like to "feather the nest".

Because that's just not what you do. I had an ex-boyfriend do it to me too. Only shitty scum of the earth humans do that. Esp with kids...

Stole money from a shared account you mean? That's just shameful. That's what marriage is about though. It's the reason you don't have kids or sex until you get married. Nowadays people don't believe in commitment, and tend to have sex first and then wonder why the relationship never works out. I can't even understand how the average person thinks these days. I'm extra picky, but I'd rather be alone than get involved with the wrong person. Life should be simple, and I intend to keep it that way. :)

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Axios87 3 points ago +3 / -0

God be with you, brother.

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MakeMineMassive 3 points ago +3 / -0

Prayers for you mate. Hope the Lord keeps you, your ex, and your children safe. May she see the error of her ways and break loose of the spell that has been cast upon her by society.

That being said, not sure this sort of trust violation can or should be ignored. Follow through on the Divorce mate. If you have a separate account, you might want to change your direct deposit over to that. Consult with your lawyer first of course.

I've got some stories in this realm myself if you ever want to commiserate.