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Lol_Garrus 170 points ago +170 / -0

Those ports run 24/7 to begin with.

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DontArkancideMeBro 110 points ago +111 / -1

California enacted a green deal where most trucks, any that are 2011 model or older cannot operate in the state. Even if the ports run 24/7, there aren’t enough trucks to get the containers. They would just pile up.

Edit- 2011 not 2018.

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Ocineaa 73 points ago +73 / -0

Yeah and all electric by like 2030. They're gonna starve

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ThorsonTT 70 points ago +70 / -0

Don't worry. Californians will be eating bugs by then, and they'll like it.

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War_Hamster 12 points ago +13 / -1

I don't think we have enough bugs here. We'll probably have to import from buggier states, opening new jobs for truckers in OTHER states.

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Aoikaze2000 34 points ago +34 / -0

.... have you seen the quality of code coming out of Silicon Valley?

You've got enough bugs to sustain the world population for the next millennia.

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War_Hamster 22 points ago +23 / -1

Can't eat features.

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independentbystander 11 points ago +11 / -0

^ This guy gets it! ^

There are a lot of things that are considered "essential" in our society that will be of no use at all in a widespread power outage, or disruption of public water/utilities/internet.

> Can't eat your data plan (or your Instagram followers.)

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The_Bloofy_Bullshark 12 points ago +12 / -0

This is what happens when you hired H1B and “coding bootcamp” retards to write code. They can’t program for shit and someone (such as myself) has to pick up their slack.

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wilstjb 6 points ago +6 / -0

I live in SBDO. But for ants, not many bugs here. A lot of stray cats though, maybe eat pussy? I just got off I-15, San Diego to Clark Co., NV. You can't cram more truks full of china shit on the freeway. You fuks back east quit buying that shit, stop it. Stop buying china communist merch. Just say no!

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War_Hamster 6 points ago +6 / -0

I've got an ocean. I'll always have meat.

Learned a lot about the trucking issue today listening to local radio. AB5 needs to get shut down by SCOTUS or it's going to get much worse.

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thanksobama 2 points ago +2 / -0

you can have all the mosquitos from here.

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War_Hamster 3 points ago +3 / -0

Mosquito goulash is one of my favorites. Thanks fren.

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NotAPuma 4 points ago +4 / -0

I've heard Las Vegas is on a trend to vote Republican by 2024. Lmao, that might just be possible if Trump runs again.

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JJ_Las_Vegas 6 points ago +6 / -0

That would be nice, but I have my doubts. I know the elections were rigged, seeing as when I went to early vote they were unable to find me and required I reregister on the spot. Pure bullshit seeing how I had no trouble voting in 2016 & 2018. I even had my mail in ballot but didn't realize they would cheat at the vote in person booths.

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BlackPilled4Decades 7 points ago +7 / -0

Remember the Trump boat parade in the Summer of 2020 at Lake Mead? There were so many boats the parade had to be rerouted, and I was in 25 footer, one of the smaller boats out there. We had to duck out because we were taking a lot of water over the bow. I have never seen so many boats on the lake ever. And the Shorelines were full of beach going Trump supporters too. RJ estimated 750 boats, and each boat had at least 6 people and the big boats even more. NV is get redder too as many people are waking up to the Biden fraud. NV going red if they can't rig the election.

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NotAPuma 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah. I'm talking about legitimate voters, lol. Not Dead Voters.

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BlaineBug 10 points ago +10 / -0

Interesting that all of our ports are primarily on the very far left coasts with the exception of whatever ports are in Florida, South Carolina, Texas, Louisiana, and Alabama. If they starve they will also hurt us as well. Although I am not sure why a nation of our size needs to rely so heavily on foreign trade to begin with! We could very easily be one of the biggest producing powerhouses in the entire world!

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BlackPilled4Decades 7 points ago +7 / -0

"green" regulations, tax codes, over regulation... all the shiite drives production to more industrial friendly countries.

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BlaineBug 4 points ago +4 / -0

No shit, but that could easily be discarded like the real filthy garbage it is.

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MaximusKek 5 points ago +6 / -1

It's not cheap to run a ship though the Panama Canal to get to the Gulf and East coast ports from China.

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BlaineBug 6 points ago +6 / -0

I understand. Just stating facts that the left coast and the east coast can do significant damage to the more conservative center of the nation.

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Gwoz8881 34 points ago +34 / -0

Currently the truck has to be 2011 or newer. By 2035 no diesel trucks can operate. It’s hilarious because there are no commercial available long haul semis. And battery technology isn’t improving enough to make them a reality within the next decade.

Battery powered semis aren’t even practical. Batteries are too heavy and they’re not even green. Hydrogen fuel cells could work but Nikola is a big scam. The thing that is both green and efficient enough are hybrids. The fact that hybrids will also be banned just shows how retarded California is. They don’t understand what green or not is

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akira2501 24 points ago +24 / -0

And battery technology isn’t improving enough to make them a reality within the next decade.

It NEVER will. You have to think about how many Megajoules per hour something like a Love's fuel station can deliver during everyday operation. It's fucking outrageous the amount of sheer power that can be pumped into a vehicle in 15 minutes, every 15 minutes, for most hours of the day. It's a miracle of engineering that we can do this as safely and reliably as we do.

You can NEVER achieve that kind of electrical energy transfer in the environments we operate fuel stations in. Too hot? Your charging rate sucks. Too cold? Your charging rate sucks. Too depleted? No fast charge for you, we need to condition your batteries as we dump massive amounts of power into them. Too many other drivers there? You'll have to wait in line for HOURS.

The insane and massive amounts of engineering that you would need to do to turn a truck lot into a useful battery powered recharging station while still maintaining the same safety margins is at least 5 decades away.

Add to this the fact that no one drives across the country any more, and so they believe in some kind of fairy magic where AI can actually operate an 80,000lb truck through mountains with snow chains on.

It's the height of Californian retardation.

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Joequill 7 points ago +8 / -1

No one really understands how much energy is involved. No one cares.

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akira2501 6 points ago +6 / -0

Fuck it. For posterity.

Diesel Fuel is about 146 MJ per gallon. A fuel pump at a non-commercial station is limited to 10 gallons per minute. This is 1460 MJ per minute, or an effective power transfer rate of 24.3 megawatts.

Okay, so Diesel engines can only use about 30% of that energy, which is still a useful transfer rate of 8.0 megawatts. Assuming electrical engines average somewhere around a 80% efficiency for the loads, an equivalent power required might be 10.0 megawatts. Per vehicle.

A decent truck stop might have 20 pumps on average so a total station rate of 200 megawatts would be required, and it would need a duty cycle of around 75% every single day. So, 3.6 gigawatt hours of power demand. Which is enough power for around 120,000 homes.

This is assuming you can build a battery powered truck with enough storage to travel 3,000 miles on a single charge all in a package that weighs less than 20,000 lbs. If you can't, you have to multiply the result above by the difference in load factors. If it's 2:1, it's twice the problem. Looking at the current "state of the art", it's 3:1 .. 2.5:1. Which "might" be real world. I doubt even that.

We haven't even gotten into reefers, which also use fuel, and are a huge part of the fleet. Their load-to-truck ratio is currently like 10:1. So you're already 10x in the hole on capacity vs demand, or with current technology, you're going to need to find 30x to 25x the current gains to actually "win."

It makes for great Elon Musk flavored snake oil, though.

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SisyphusRockAndRoll 4 points ago +4 / -0

It'd be hilarious to see like 20 autonomous trucks piled up at the bottom of a ravine because of some coders fuck up of a decimal in the wrong spot.

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vitalsine 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's funny because California is creating these laws while being fully aware they lack energy for the electric vehicles they already have. They would never be capable of providing energy for the largest growing region in the country. I hope farmers get out while they can. It is a shame though, California is basically being handed over to China.

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Junionthepipeline 1 point ago +1 / -0

80k lol

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TKAdams 20 points ago +20 / -0

They understand what companies their buddies own and how to line their pockets.

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Viewer01 8 points ago +8 / -0

This isn’t about being effective. It’s about picking winners and lining pockets.

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Cesare_Borgia 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hydrogen could work but while we can use electricity to separate it out from water that takes quite a bit of electricity and isn't feasible without fossil fuels, nuclear or unless we eventually figure out how to beam energy down from orbital solar (what could go wrong there!)

Otherwise that hydrogen is cracked off of natural gas.

But it's really the only viable non hydrocarbon transport fuel source. Especially for air travel which leftists love.

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Barbs 4 points ago +4 / -0

Gasoline is also a long hydrocarbon chain. I always wondered why they don’t make fuel cells that break down gasoline into hydrogen since the infrastructure is already in place. All they need now is the fuel cell that can do the conversion.

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Icepck 1 point ago +1 / -0

The only feasible hydrogen production without electricity are two options: fission products splitting water, or reacting water with aluminum that has been treated with gallium.

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BlackPilled4Decades 2 points ago +2 / -0

they are banning Hybrids too? Fucking retaaaaarded. Can the ban out of state gas powered cars? Everybody gonna be rollin AZ and NV tags.

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Wordlife187 5 points ago +5 / -0

2011 not 2018. But most private owner/operators have older trucks due to being easier to work on.

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PRMan99 4 points ago +4 / -0

Does anyone have a link for that law? I keep hearing it on here but can't find it.

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aconcernedtroll 2 points ago +2 / -0

The article and linked tweets reference the law

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Dingus -16 points ago +3 / -19

This guy is looking for facts and confirmation. GET HIM YOU GUYS!

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Farage_massage 3 points ago +3 / -0

Oregon needs to build a port and become a top 5 GDP state overnight.

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President_Elect_Marx 16 points ago +16 / -0

Oregon and Washington are both run by fucking retards too though.

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Farage_massage 3 points ago +3 / -0

Cartel Highway it is! Dock in Mexico and build a highway along the border all the way to AZ.

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vitalsine 1 point ago +1 / -0

Pretty sure it's called Portland....

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newchina 19 points ago +19 / -0

24/7/365

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yep__yep__yep 7 points ago +7 / -0

The ILWU has special holidays, but usually they're optional I believe. Even major ILWU holidays like Bloody Thursday

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Injustice 14 points ago +14 / -0

Holiday in a port means workers receive 1.5 per hour...

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Brucesky420 8 points ago +8 / -0

From my understanding (from what I heard on CNBC the other morning so take it with a grain of salt) the ports weren't operating 24/7 like they normally do because the truckers were refusing to come during off hours without higher pay. So unless they resolved that problem them operating 24/7 wouldn't do anything.

Basically the truckers are the bottleneck, not the port (though I'm sure the port union has been trying to get higher pay for their workers as well)

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Kek_The_World 16 points ago +16 / -0

You listen to CNBC while you work?

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TownHallBall 6 points ago +6 / -0

We need this answered. Asap.

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Brucesky420 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yes I know. I apologize, I'm a sinner. Before the stock market opens I like to get an idea of what the mainstream news is pedaling. Not for the specific content but for the overall mood. As wild as it is lots of normies take what they say as gospel, so their reaction to premarket movement and news can give you a good feel of how the market is going to be, especially in that first hour when volume is typically at it's highest. It's essentially just another indicator on your chart.

Plus I'm not sure why but I kinda have a soft spot for Jim Cramer. He's an absolute moron a whole lot of the time, but it adds to his charm. Have definitely wanted his head to be the golf ball on my tee plenty of times though

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BlackPilled4Decades 1 point ago +1 / -0

there was a guy in WA who did a screw tube vid and showed lines of trucks idling while they were waiting for a load. Cranes were not unloading for hours.

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bangbus 9 points ago +9 / -0

The trucking and rail system each only has so much capacity. Offloading more boats just makes a bigger pile of shipping containers somewhere else. The rail yards are a disaster.

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War_Hamster 3 points ago +3 / -0

The article explains this in more detail.

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NC_patriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Distribution centers aren't open at night.

“Truckers and customers don’t want to pull boxes at night, because few DCs operate 24-hours a day. So, the trucker will have to pre-pull the container, store it in a secure yard, which costs more money obviously and comes with liability for the security of the container,” he remarked.

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yep__yep__yep 8 points ago +8 / -0

Correct.

My father works for the ILWU on night side.

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Isaiah53 4 points ago +4 / -0

Fact: They are both run by China.

As is Seattle, Houston, and Miami

The latter two are run by the CCP through a French shell company.

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KekistanPM 44 points ago +45 / -1

Good luck finding people who are getting over $15/hr staying at home to wake up at 1 am to drive thirty minutes to the docks and help unload crates for at least eight hours.

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rightwing_duck 30 points ago +31 / -1

long shoreman make closer to $50 an hour

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Annoyedwiththedevoid 6 points ago +6 / -0

Fuck I would sign up for that quick if I lived within a days distance

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_Sully_ 14 points ago +14 / -0

You only get in with a lottery. It's a great gig but the beginning can be a real pain in the ass as you have to show up and hope you get called up. You earn hours to move up the ladder. A lot of spots you have to wait for someone to die to get. But once you do you are making bank.

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NC_patriot 6 points ago +7 / -1

I learned about this from The Wire.

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okboomer59 6 points ago +6 / -0

On the Waterfront. The union/mafia is a metaphor for the commies. The film was written and directed by Elia Kazan, an ex-Communist who testified before HUAC, exposing the commie conspiracy to seize control of Hollywood in the 1950s. Probably delayed what we are going through now by 70 years

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yep__yep__yep 17 points ago +17 / -0

Dude working in the ILWU is a golden ticket... The other guy said 50$ an hour but some higher positions make crazy money, close to $250,000 a year..

It's not unusual to come away with 600$ earned by the end of the night.

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_Sully_ 3 points ago +3 / -0

Believe or not a lot of those guys live in Arizona.

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realPhantomFuck 1 point ago +1 / -0

Those dudes aren't making $50/hr

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yep__yep__yep 1 point ago +1 / -0

Longshoremen? I mean, often times they do if not more... I'm not sure what your asserting.

Edit: I didn't realize this wasn't a reply to me... I'm big tard tonight. Sorry pede 👍

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BlackPilled4Decades 1 point ago +1 / -0

and commuting in LA is enough to make anyone insane. Not uncommon for people to spend 3-4 hours each way in traffic.

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QLARP 1 point ago +1 / -0

Who is getting 15 and hour to stay home?

That covid unemployment stuff ended in july

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Droford 33 points ago +33 / -0

Zerohedgeposted this about the trucker problem

“Carriers domiciled in California with trucks older than 2011 model, or using engines manufactured before 2010, will need to meet the Board’s new Truck and Bus Regulation beginning in 2020.” Otherwise, “Their vehicles will be blocked from registration with the state’s DMV,” according to California law. “The requirement is to purchase electric trucks which do not exist.”

And

“Traditionally the ports have been served by Owner Operators,” Oakley says, who are non-union. But under AB-5, “California has now banned Owner Operators.” Just like the union longshoremen, union truckers work under a whole host of work rules that simply can’t accommodate crisis conditions like the ones in Los Angeles.

So that is factored into the whole issue

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RachetQueen2020 13 points ago +13 / -0

This prime time for another state like Florida to swoop in and put the screws to them.

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texas4ever 9 points ago +9 / -0

If only there were a normal state on the left coast, but there's not. No oceanfront property in Arizona either.

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sanitaryshaver 5 points ago +5 / -0

Lewiston, ID, is a port and navigable to the sea...

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texas4ever 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks, have been in the business for years and didn't know that.

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SilverStarv5 2 points ago +2 / -0

I’ll be…

But how much capacity does that port have?

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covok48 1 point ago +1 / -0

As much as Catoosa.

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Hippopoonis [S] 7 points ago +8 / -1

That is 99% of the whole issue

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redgreenyellowblu 6 points ago +6 / -0

It's "Atlas Shrugged"

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okboomer59 2 points ago +2 / -0

Time to shrug, boys

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catatonic_frog 23 points ago +23 / -0

We need more truck drivers, for one thing.

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TKAdams 20 points ago +24 / -4

Get rid of regulations and union bullshit and it will happen on its own.

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texas4ever 17 points ago +17 / -0

Like the e-logs that limit what hours truck drivers can drive and are very inflexible. Say a trucker would prefer to stop and sleep for a couple hours during rush hour, then drive more at night when there's less traffic, he can't. The e-logs were effectively a pay cut for truckers. People have different rhythms but this system tries to put everyone in the same box.

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QLARP 0 points ago +1 / -1

Wasn't e logs implemented because truckers kept falling asleep behind the wheel and hitting mini vans full of kids?

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texas4ever 3 points ago +3 / -0

In theory it's for safety. In reality, it cuts into earnings and flexibility: Truckers can be on-duty up to 14 consecutive hours and drive up to 11 of those hours,” he said. “But it doesn't matter if it took a shipper five to six hours to load the truck and the driver got a nap in; it doesn't matter if a driver is parked somewhere, realizes a blizzard a moving in, and wants to move on. When time is up, time is up.”

And heaven forbid a driver try to shut down with driving time still on his or her electronic clock, Claburn noted, because the dispatcher, broker, etc., knows in real time if driving time is still available on the clock due to an ELD.

“Say it's around 4:00 pm and you're south of the Chicago area trying to go north. You've got three hours left to drive. Will you make it through Chicago AND find a place to park before your time is up at 7:00 p.m.? Chances are no, probably not,” he said. “But prepare to defend your choice to shut down early! How would like to have to defend every common sense decision you make?”

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QLARP 0 points ago +1 / -1

I mean e logs are an annoying layer of bureaucratic red tape.

But the old days of doing speed all night and crashing into someone was not cool

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texas4ever 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm fine with safety measures, but they always choose the most painful measures with tons of red tape. It always starts with "for your safety" "for the children." I would imagine there are much better ways to solve the problem. Nowadays they even have ways to detect it if you are too tired to drive.

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QLARP 1 point ago +2 / -1

Truck drivers protested against seat belt laws they aren't the sharpest tools.

Sometimes you just gotta force em

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QLARP 1 point ago +1 / -0

Or pay them more?

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MAGADutchPEDE -1 points ago +5 / -6

Truckers need unions

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TKAdams 6 points ago +10 / -4

Why?

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BlackPilled4Decades 4 points ago +6 / -2

Conservative union worker here, I worked many Jobs in the private sector. As an employee, the corporate system eats the individual and spits them out. The unions bring the power of many to the individual. Unions are a necessary evil. The way I look at it I vote R because I want to bargain for a piece of the pie from a strong company. D's want to put everybody out of work and out of business through over regulation and there is no pie to bargain for.

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TKAdams 1 point ago +2 / -1

Both unions and large corporations reduce market diversity by using both legal regulation and "social" pressure.

The ideal solution is freeing the market so that lots of companies and owner/operators can join.

That way not only do consumers have more freedom of choice, but so do drivers as to who they are employed by.

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BlackPilled4Decades 2 points ago +2 / -0

I like idealism. Except it has never worked or happened.

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TKAdams 2 points ago +2 / -0

So you support institutions that reduce your freedom of choice while complaining about the lack there of.

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SteersBeersandQueers 16 points ago +18 / -2

Biden is ofc lying, the port runs 24/7/365

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Hippopoonis [S] 19 points ago +20 / -1

It takes trucking to offload a port. That's the problem. California has some fucked up laws for truckers.

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Imransgarage 3 points ago +3 / -0

I see a few things (autos for one) but I feel like people on both sides are promoting shortages more than actually exist.

It’s expensive but there are zero fucking grocery shortages from what I see.

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Duke59 15 points ago +15 / -0

How many here have read Atlas Shrugged? If you haven’t, you are now living it.

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okboomer59 5 points ago +5 / -0

Who is John Galt?

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Duke59 3 points ago +3 / -0

We the people are the new John Galt.

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BlackPilled4Decades 3 points ago +3 / -0

I just learned of it in the message thread. I love this place, lots of great minds sharing their knowledge. I'll check it out.

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Duke59 1 point ago +1 / -0

It’s a 1200 page “check out”😀 But good easy reading.

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Mangar 14 points ago +15 / -1

I work at the East Coast ports. (NY/NJ) The ports generally already do work 24/7 already. My shift tomorrow(Saturday) is 7pm till 7am. The ships are serviced always. This is the same for every port on the entire east coast, and is also true for California.

The actual yard to pick up the containers however, is closed. They only open for extended hours or weekends when there's a glut of containers. Part of the problem, is that a truck driver can pick UP a box... But what's he going to do with it, when 90% of the warehouses are closed? So even when we did that - It was pretty slow. It helped, but not by the amount that California needs.

With that said: There is no ship backlog on the east coast. This is purely a California/West Coast problem. They fucked themselves by banning all trucks made prior to 2011, and essentially banning "Owner/Operators" who make up roughly 95% of all truck drivers from working. It's just California being California, and now acting all surprised when the results from their actions start to take shape.

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Hippopoonis [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yes...👆👆👆

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yep__yep__yep 4 points ago +4 / -0

This...

The number of times I've been told "No you're wrong" when I tell them that the port runs all night is getting retarded... I grew up in San Pedro, the small town right next to the port and right next to Long Beach... I have TONS of family in the ILWU on both day and night side... My dad is a crane driver.

But no, these larpers know better than me I guess.

I just shrug.

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Pinochet_Was_Right 12 points ago +12 / -0

Industry experts told Freightwaves that simply expanding port hours wouldn’t get goods to market faster because unless distribution centers/warehouses are also open 24/7, truckers won’t want to pick up loads during off-hours.

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Viewer01 12 points ago +12 / -0

California would be a third world country if they we’re anywhere else in the world. All their fortunes are based on where the state is and not because of its populace. Put these assholes in North Dakota and watch them manage to freeze to death in the summer.

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Hippopoonis [S] 11 points ago +11 / -0

California has over $1.5 TRILLION (with a T) in unfunded PUBLIC pension liabilities. This state is so fucking broke.

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BoomShtick 7 points ago +7 / -0

This 👆. They say they have a budget surplus not taking this into account. When in reality, you are looking at Detroit, on a state fucking level.

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Hippopoonis [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Michigan does the same kind of accounting, obviously.

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QLARP 1 point ago +1 / -0

So? You don't have to pay it all in one year and they have enough to cover the debt service they had a 75 billion surplus this year.

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Hippopoonis [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

lol......

Divide $1.5 Trillion by $75 Billion for me real quick. Do you even have a clue about how much money that is?

Here is a little perspective......You're welcome.

https://www.thoughtco.com/millions-billions-and-trillions-3126163

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QLARP 0 points ago +1 / -1

Dude they don't have to pay the 1.5 trillion in one year they just have to pay installments.

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Hippopoonis [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

OMG....Are you retarded?

I'm asking you an honest question.

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QLARP 1 point ago +1 / -0

A person's debt to income ratio is not found by taking their monthly income divided by the total balance of their mortgage and the total balance of all cars and credits cards.

Debt to service ratio is income divided by the mortgage payment, car payments, and credit card payments.

You can't say the person is broke by doing their dti wrong.

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Barbs 5 points ago +5 / -0

People in San Francisco are used to freezing to death in the summer. Even on the “warm” days you still need long sleeves.

The coastal cities are also way different than the inland communities. They don’t call us “Calabama” for nothing, lol. Most people in Northern California can’t stand Southern California. It’s a whole different world.

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x79q3pb 3 points ago +3 / -0

Central valley here, we like to hang out with you northerners sometimes. Coastals can go with the San Andreas.

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BoomShtick 3 points ago +3 / -0

The Central Valley, foothills, and the Sierra Nevada should become part of Nevada and turn it red again. Let the coast and the sac valley fall into the sea.

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BlackPilled4Decades 3 points ago +3 / -0

NV is already red if we get rid of the Dominion machines.

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BoomShtick 2 points ago +2 / -0

And the zombie voters….. Carson city is cucked, so are parts of Reno.

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Wintergreen 2 points ago +2 / -0

California has also benefited from the inertia of the industries that conservatives built. Hollywood, for example, was built by conservatives. And the aerospace industry and the farming industry and the tech industry. But of course, California has managed to squander a lot that already.

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QLARP 1 point ago +1 / -0

Actually it would be the 7th biggest economy in the world ahead of Italy.

And a tech, food and entertainment powerhouse.

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Viewer01 3 points ago +3 / -0

You don’t understand what I’m saying. They’re wealthy by virtue of where the state is located and it’s geography. If you put these retards in the mid west or other portions of the world where they didn’t have such an economic abundance, they would starve.

They are the quintessential rich kid.

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WheeeeeThePeople 12 points ago +13 / -1

But, but, but President Brandon cares. Isn't that enough to solve the supply chain problem? He CARES you bigot.

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Samuel_L_Bronkowitz 10 points ago +10 / -0

It’s all about semi truck emissions and any truck older than 3 years won’t pass them. Only about 50% of the trucks on the road pass this. These trucks cost upwards of 200k. Fucking clown world.

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Hippopoonis [S] 7 points ago +8 / -1

They ban trucks older than 2011 here in California. The fucking environmental terrorists own Sacramento.

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Mexicanforthewall 9 points ago +10 / -1

Lol they’re not even running 24-7. I was there this morning working in the Port of Long Beach and it was shut. The Union Long Shoreman work from 7am-5pm and that’s with a 2 hour lunch.

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yep__yep__yep -1 points ago +3 / -4

You are 100% wrong and incorrect.

You realize there's a day side and a night side? The ILWU runs all night.

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Mexicanforthewall 8 points ago +9 / -1

Nah, I work in the LBCT yard, 7am start, 5pm finish. There maybe overnight workers, but no unloading of cargo or loading of trucks.

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deleted 1 point ago +1 / -0
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Baconmmm 2 points ago +2 / -0

Source? Cause I was just by everport yesterday 6am and the gates were shut with like 8-10 trucks outside waiting for open.

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yep__yep__yep 2 points ago +2 / -0

My father has worked for the ILWU on the port of LA and LB for 20 fucking years, and since way before covid he's been unloading cans from ships all night from a crane and he's always worked nights.

He's not a trucker and truckers aren't members of the ILWU whatsoever. They contract through the ILWU but are NOT union members. The second largest port on the planet does not close at night time. Ships don't stop coming in just because the sun went down. You think all port logistics that are responsible for supplying everything on the west coast just stops for hours every night because it's dark?

Sorry if I come off as a dick, I don't mean to. It's frustrating when people go "nah that's not how the port works" when they clearly either don't work there or aren't ILWU and clearly do not know what there they're about whatsoever. I have dozens of family members who work days and nights...

Why would the busiest port in America waste money for no reason when they have the work force to stay open??

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IncredibleMrE1 9 points ago +9 / -0

Fucking Cali environmental terrorists

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BelfordBob 9 points ago +9 / -0

What the FUCK we he know about working and moving freight? Maybe if he didn’t cancel the Keystone XL pipeline, they wouldn’t be prioritizing unloading tanker ships and also loading tanker trucks and rail cars. Wow so much better we are built WAAAY back and will be hitting the 70’s soon.

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clocker23 9 points ago +9 / -0

Gosh, if only some stupid president hadn't given away control of the Panama Canal, those ships could've gotten to TX or FL in no time and at lesser cost than having to go all the way around S. America.

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SilverStarv5 2 points ago +2 / -0

Carter?

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sovereign_citizen 7 points ago +7 / -0

While our Secretary of Transportation, Pete Buttigieg, is enjoying his "maternity" leave he apparently thought his role could run on Tesla autopilot.

Have no fear though. President Biden yesterday announced an Administrator of Maritime Administration. Who did he pick? A diversity hire whose background is in climate change but don't worry, she's from our woke military. 😤

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GreyKnight 7 points ago +7 / -0

That was a good read.

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Hippopoonis [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

:)

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sovereign_citizen 7 points ago +7 / -0

The fact that tractor trucks no older that 3 years old are required to pick up or deliver containers at the SoCal ports is creating an immense inflationary pressure on trucking as the SoCal freight rates draw such trucks from the rest of the nation.

It's bad enough California's craziness screws up their own state but now it's screwing up the rest of the nation!

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TanfoglioStock2 7 points ago +7 / -0

I’m gonna say that an operation the size of the Port of LA was always assumed to be a 24 hour operation in my head. I got 24 hour gas stations all around me, why wouldn’t Port of LA be that way?

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Hippopoonis [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

Because California is ruled by environmental terrorists.

It's not the port that's at fault. It's the laws they put on independent truckers and small trucking businesses.

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yep__yep__yep 5 points ago +5 / -0

So here's where the kind of big misconceptions come from. The port runs 24/7/365 save for a few ILWU specific holidays like Bloody Thursday, etc...

The truckers who take the cans (20ft or 40ft shipping containers) out of the Port yard are not working all night, so as the port unloads cans from a ship, they stack them around the yard in organized piles and send them out when they can be taken.

Otherwise the ports run 24/7.

Source: I grew up in San Pedro, the small town right across the Vincent Thomas Bridge from Long Beach. I have a LOT of family members who work in the ILWU (International Longshore Warehouse Union), some who work days and some who work nights. The ports in LA and LB have always run 24/7/365

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PRMan99 2 points ago +2 / -0

If you pick up with your truck at 4 am and drive 2 hours to drop it off and they don't open until 8 am, what are you going to do? Sit there for 2 hours?

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Cliffinati 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yes trucks show up at plants that dont take deliveries until 8am at like 8pm and just sit all the time

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okboomer59 1 point ago +1 / -0

Your local gas stations aren’t run by the ILWU, I’m guessing

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FLIBS 6 points ago +6 / -0

(in the industry) This is all political theater. They don't have the staff to unload, and they don't have drivers. Biden should announce no more free money to sit at home.

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Hippopoonis [S] 10 points ago +11 / -1

It's the California trucking laws that make this unworkable.

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Barbs 4 points ago +4 / -0

That’s only part of it. The other ports outside of California are backed up too, so the California law wouldn’t be affecting those other states.

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FLIBS 4 points ago +4 / -0

true, you can bring up Marine Traffic's site and see many ships at anchorage along east coast ports as well. (VERY unusual) CA, as usual, isn't helping the situation but there is a lot more going on. Adding to that you can't import trailer chassis from China now (very high tariffs), and American manufacturers are still trying to scale up and catch up. Not that they would have the drivers to move them. It's many issues all coming together in one big FUBAR. Meanwhile, Biden is sleeping.

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okboomer59 6 points ago +6 / -0

And the Secretary of Transportation is on vaykay, resting his vajayjay and breastfeeding his two newborn victims

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FLIBS 2 points ago +2 / -0

This administration is a circus side show!

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okboomer59 1 point ago +1 / -0

🤡

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yep__yep__yep 2 points ago +2 / -0

They have the staff to unload, not to take cans off the yard.

Its the tucks and warehouses, not the ILWU or PMA.

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War_Hamster 5 points ago +5 / -0

Excellent article. Thanks for posting it.

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Hippopoonis [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

:)

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im_out 5 points ago +5 / -0

So what would actually help? read the article but it doesn't outline things that would actually work.

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I_lost_my_password 5 points ago +5 / -0

Rescind the truck mandate that went into affect two weeks ago would be a good start.

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Hippopoonis [S] 3 points ago +4 / -1

It doesn't help at all. California trucking laws are too fucked up.

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NC_patriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

Keeping distribution centers open 24/7.

“Truckers and customers don’t want to pull boxes at night, because few DCs operate 24-hours a day. So, the trucker will have to pre-pull the container, store it in a secure yard, which costs more money obviously and comes with liability for the security of the container,” he remarked.

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im_out 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ah so distribution centers and freights yards are different I’m guessing? I know literally nothing about this

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NC_patriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, trucks pick up the containers from freight yards and deliver them to distribution centers to be unloaded and sorted.

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GeoG85 5 points ago +5 / -0

There was a discussion on Don Jr's Instagram, with Jr saying

"If these products were made in America, it wouldn't be a problem."

You know what they fuckin' commented? "W-w-w-we need each other. We have to accept foreign products."

I replied "No we fuckin' don't LOL"

:/

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Endprism 5 points ago +5 / -0

It’s not the ports that are the issue.

It’s two things:

  1. CA won’t allow trucks older than 3 years to pickup trailers bc muh climate change and so this creates a shortage of available trucks to pickup the containers
  2. The trailers that the containers ride on are being horded by trucker unions to create scarcity
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Hippopoonis [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

The unions and the environmentalists completely fucked the trucker industry. (AB-5)

https://www.centerlinedrivers.com/resources/blog/ab5-mean-trucking-industry

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Logan051361 5 points ago +5 / -0

Ports dont seem to be moving. Why?

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caw_86 8 points ago +8 / -0

trucks and CARB

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NZbacon 5 points ago +6 / -1

Unions and ab5?

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T-Bear 4 points ago +4 / -0

The ports are open, but no one's there.

Just like Biden - the lights are on, but no one's there

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julianleroux 4 points ago +4 / -0

BUT HOW WILL I CONSOOM !?!?

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giglamesh 4 points ago +4 / -0

There is absolutely NOTHING the biden regime says that is honest. You know they are lying when any of their lips are moving. period.

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MythArcana 4 points ago +4 / -0

Shitter's full!

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Hippopoonis [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

LOL! :)

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NZbacon 4 points ago +4 / -0

What a fucking mess.

Can anyone explain the ab5 labour ruling to me?

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PRMan99 5 points ago +5 / -0

So, it was aimed at forcing Uber and Lyft to give benefits to their drivers by forcing them to be employees.

But it basically said gig working is now illegal in California. So independent truckers can't go to California anymore.

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NZbacon 2 points ago +2 / -0

Makes sense. Thanks.

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Hippopoonis [S] 5 points ago +6 / -1

“Carriers domiciled in California with trucks older than 2011 model, or using engines manufactured before 2010, will need to meet the Board’s new Truck and Bus Regulation beginning in 2020.” Otherwise, “Their vehicles will be blocked from registration with the state’s DMV,” according to California law. “The requirement is to purchase electric trucks which do not exist.”

And

“Traditionally the ports have been served by Owner Operators,” Oakley says, who are non-union. But under AB-5, “California has now banned Owner Operators.” Just like the union longshoremen, union truckers work under a whole host of work rules that simply can’t accommodate crisis conditions like the ones in Los Angeles.

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NC_patriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

AB5, enacted in 2019, seeks to define the status of an independent contractor in the state. It sets as law the ABC test for determining whether a worker is an employee or a true independent contractor. And for trucking, the B prong is viewed as making it difficult to hire independent owner-operators as drivers, because it defines a person engaged in the primary activity of the hiring company — like a trucking company hiring a truck driver — as an employee. (A trucking company hiring a janitorial service to clean the offices would not face this issue, since janitorial work is not its business.)

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russianbot4673 4 points ago +5 / -1

is this the port that China was apparently super close to buying and completely controlling until Trump stepped in and stopped a deal that was put into place under Obama? which i remember reading about a few years ago but which for whatever reason got almost no press nor was talked about almost anywhere? which is weird because you'd think our biggest foreign adversary controlling our biggest port would be kind of... maybe a security risk or something? maybe?

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KABLAMICA 4 points ago +5 / -1

I recommend we go down there and block the port.. peaceful protest

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The_Kuru 4 points ago +4 / -0

Loading at night and getting out of there with no traffic on LA freeways? Sounds good to me.

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GodKingHarambe 4 points ago +5 / -1

MyPillow Least Hit

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RalphWiggum 4 points ago +4 / -0

So… this is Greta Thunbergs fault?

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79WillardCptn 4 points ago +4 / -0

biden's 24hr declaration was rubbish, media whitewash. Worse was garcetti kissing his arse praising the move as some fantastic save.

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Hippopoonis [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

All smoke and mirrors. Just like everything the left does.

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MLGS 3 points ago +3 / -0

We gave our entire West Coast to communists who hate America and we're surprised that they're trying to shut down US commerce.

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Bohemyth_2 3 points ago +3 / -0

Just like he’s banking on ‘ending [‘covid’]’, loser

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someschmuck 3 points ago +3 / -0

If Newsom didn't sign a law that made contract workers full time workers, which effected over 70,0000 independent truck drivers, THERE WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.

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Omgwtfbbq 3 points ago +3 / -0

No drivers to take the stuff. No pilots either.

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BoughtByBloomberg2 2 points ago +2 / -0

We can't just solve the dumb problem by doing thw dumb thing 24/7.

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Ccvarn 2 points ago +2 / -0

Is Cali going to put up walls to keep trucks outs?

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1776Widowmaker 1 point ago +1 / -0

There was a guy unloading at a job i was at a few years ago. He told me he was "riding dirty" in California. I asked about it he kinda explained he wasn't "smog compliant."

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CentralAmericanPede 2 points ago +2 / -0

Biden is such a clown.

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OhLollyLollyPop 2 points ago +2 / -0

About half of the tractors in the USA cannot go into California due to an EPA enforced emissions standard. There are situations now where cargo is trucked to the Cali border and put on other trucks there.

The big box stores (Walmart, Amazon, Target, Home Depot) foresaw this current situation years ago and took early action to lease cargo ships and take their most pressing or valuable goods to Houston or other ports. They also have been utilizing ships with the cranes on board so they don't have the long waits to unload.

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OneArmedViolinist 2 points ago +2 / -0

Don't they already run 24/7?

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Hippopoonis [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think the ports do. The truckers don't

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crash7863 2 points ago +2 / -0

To elaborate on that... trucks now have electronic systems monitoring them so long haulers cannot drive more than like 12 hours straight. (Not sure on exact hour amount.) If they don't take a break for like 8 hours they get huge fines.

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Hippopoonis [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's the way the bosses wants it

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IWantFweedom 2 points ago +2 / -0

Dems are setting this up to leverage infrastructure bill votes.

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runonce 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sit on your ass for 8 hours a day vs sitting on your ass for 24 hours a day. You know, it just might be crazy enough to work!

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rosylake 2 points ago +2 / -0

Most clueless dumb president of all time

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DonFantaglia 2 points ago +2 / -0

That’s the equivalent to shitting your pants and waiting until until a good time to change undies! Don’t shit your pants and you don’t have to worry about the stink you dumb ass!

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gaijin_ronin 2 points ago +2 / -0

And all the shitbirds will smile, nod then bark like seals with approval because this will make it all better. No one has a clue about supply chain logistics....meanwhile Peter Bootyjuice is trying to get his kid to suckle...

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Hippopoonis [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

ikr? LOL!