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ICanHazDownvotes 108 points ago +109 / -1

Of course they will try this! And they will pull it off! I am completely black pilled about the progressives' ability to escape the brainwashing. A progressive friend of mine, for example, used to send me Russell Brand clips all the time. Now, that Russell is becoming more and more red-pilled, I checked to see if he also red-pilled her. But no, she said she "stopped watching" him because he has become "right-wing" (LOL!) and "a conspiracy theorist". She also still thinks Biden's mind is 100% sharp btw, and thinks the recent economic downturn is because the effect of Trump's policies is kicking in! I don't think there's any hope for such people, they'll just believe anything the MSM tells them...

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shogun5000 43 points ago +43 / -0

Sorry for ya about the friend. I've lost my ability to respect anyone that sheepish. It's frustrating because some are great people in all other aspects except they still believe what the media tells them to believe. I just can't reconcile that dichotomy anymore.

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ICanHazDownvotes 11 points ago +11 / -0

I understand what you mean, I find it frustrating as well! Luckily, at least she isn't the type that unfriends people for their political beliefs (and neither am I).

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Ballind 25 points ago +27 / -2

You're never going to get that pussy bro

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ICanHazDownvotes 10 points ago +10 / -0

She's still thinking of her first love from high-school even though she's been in a stable relationship for years! No thanks, I'm staying out of that drama!

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Here_we_go 2 points ago +2 / -0

She is the friend that will alert authorities about others that are right leaning.

Good luck. I cut them all out. I dont need potential snitches.

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AgentGTO 1 point ago +1 / -0

She isn't that type of friend, YET. Don't want to alarm you but just don't be surprised if that happens. Had a really good friend of mine (knew for 20 years), despite never letting politics divide us, suddenly decided that I am an undesirable because of my support of Trump. Totally blinded by it. Just make sure to not share anything critical with her less she prove that she is or would be one of those "good Germans".

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Factsherrt 13 points ago +13 / -0

Big part of the pop is doomed regardless they are jabbed

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GodDamnedEngineer 2 points ago +5 / -3

"I AM A NATURAL DOCTOR"

NEVER HEARD A DOCTOR SAY THAT BEFORE, MAKES SINCE WHEN SHE SAYS SHE GETS HER INFORMATION FROM PHYSICIANS. OH THE FUCKING SPIN PEOPLE DO.

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Alohakid 1 point ago +2 / -1

I've known a few Integrative MD's who have described themselves in just that manner.

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GodDamnedEngineer 2 points ago +2 / -0

EXCEPTION PROVES THE RULE

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permissible_missile 1 point ago +2 / -1

We...?

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bubadmt 15 points ago +15 / -0

Yeah, the next variant will have strokes as a side effect. Damn those unvaccinated fucks!

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Forgototherpassword 3 points ago +3 / -0

Why aren't the unvaxxed getting them despite having had teh coof? Why are vaxxed getting them who haven't had teh coof?

Weird.

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Ocineaa 6 points ago +6 / -0

They want the world to burn.

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Olds777 5 points ago +5 / -0

I work with a lot of hardcore leftists and I've been surprised how many are burnt out and tired of so much of this. People who a year ago tried to be a total dick to me and now most of them have toned it down massively. I'm not sure if it's seeing Australia or how the shots effecting them and their friends.

Honestly after seeing how fucked up Keith Olberman looked after his 3rd booster, it seemed like he was ready to cry and he's terrified of the reactions he's having. Many are starting to doubt what they put in their bodies.

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HarrisonBergeronn 52 points ago +52 / -0
  • "Blood clots are a side effect of the new Rho strain."
  • "The new Rho strain is causing heart problems in children."
  • "The unvaxxed are giving Rho to your children."
  • "We need to quarantine anyone who hasn't been vaxxed to protect your children from Rho."
  • "We're moving the unvaxxed to 'safe zones'."
  • "You shouldn't have spoken out against the government, citizen. Now I'm going to have to remove good boy points from your passport and send you to the safe zone."
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fazaman 17 points ago +17 / -0

Don't be ridiculous! That'll never happen ... This week.

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iorek 5 points ago +6 / -1

Remember, Remember The third of November, The Democrat treason and plot. I see no reason the Democrats' treason Should ever be forgot.

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Cliffinati 1 point ago +1 / -0

The Third though the Seventh then again the Sixth of January when they shot their own citizens

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PatriotSkorzeny 0 points ago +1 / -1

Treason.

Where were you on the 6th of January? When the Congress of the people Caused the death of liberty. The Constitution wasn’t followed As the founders had wrote, Then the traitors, quislings and crooks Stole your vote. What were you thinking, And how did you feel, When the level of corruption, Was finally revealed?

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Joe_Snow 11 points ago +11 / -0

When they come to take you to the box cars, shoot them.

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MarkSuckABug [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

You've nailed it.

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Hambonemcgee 32 points ago +32 / -0

And watch the jabbed sheep unquestionably accepting the new and improved list of symptoms like a goldfish with ADD

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Building7 34 points ago +34 / -0

Speaking of which, i remember back in the early 90s when they started pushing adhd meds on kids. Oh your kid doesnt want to sit in a hard chair for hours listening to a post menopausal woman? Clearly the solution is to put him on amphetamines. But be sure to bring him back every week for $150/hour counseling followups.

Liberal parents ate that shit up.

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GrumpyGrumpus 19 points ago +19 / -0

Now add to this a growing number of college students are abusing ADHD meds thinking it will give them an edge for studying. You also see it continue in high pressure jobs where employees want every perceived advantage to get ahead.

Sad, so sad.

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Weloveflyovercountry 8 points ago +8 / -0

not to mention the methamphetamine epidemic

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GrumpyGrumpus 7 points ago +7 / -0

Or micro-dosing LSD.

We can go on and on.

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Klown_Schwab 2 points ago +2 / -0

I took adderall in college it actually worked lol

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Warbeard 18 points ago +18 / -0

Oh your kid doesnt want to sit in a hard chair for hours listening to a post menopausal woman?

Imagine how much worse this affects boys than girls.

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kt524 10 points ago +10 / -0

Infinitely more, schools treat boys as defective girls which is why they want to shove pills down their throats.

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TommyJarvis 9 points ago +9 / -0

Leftists have wanted little boys to act like little girls for decades.

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Alohakid 4 points ago +4 / -0

Exactly. My Uncle was a Drafting/Math teacher in Orange County, CA. The only kids who offed themselves were the ones on the "meds". Which they had to go take at a certain time in the nurses office daily. Ritalin (methylphenidate) is a bitch.

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Groundpounder 26 points ago +26 / -0

The clotting is a result of the spike protein that was engineered onto the corona virus by team Fauci. So, both the virus and experimental serum cause spike protein replication. Also, you’re not considered “vaccinated” until two weeks after the second jab (a possible 8 week span of rolling the dice on your ability to withstand the side effects), and the numbers collected on those suffering from adverse reactions (including death) will have Covid symptoms caused by the jab, but will be counted as “unvaccinated”. Big Pharma wins, our collective immune systems lose

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L8_totheparty 24 points ago +24 / -0

You may be too late. Had this conversation already with a family member a few months ago. I said the vaccine was causing myocarditis and blood clots, her reply was that my risk of getting both was higher from catching covid than from getting the vax.

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Warbeard 14 points ago +14 / -0

But you can get clots from the vax and still get covid which could also give you clots. You're increasing your chances of clots by taking the vax.

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GrumpyGrumpus 11 points ago +11 / -0

tldr; Natural infection needs to bypass your innate immune system. Vaccines, by design, bypass most of the innate immune system because you want vaccines to trigger your adaptive immune system. If you are going to compare rates of myocarditis and thrombosis between vaccine adverse events and natural infection, then within natural infection you also need to ALL those exposed to the virus with the percentage that get severe infection (because not all exposed will get COVID). The way it's currently being represented is those who are infected who get severe cases versus vaccine adverse events.

It is true that those suffering from severe COVID can have myocarditis and blood clots thanks to the spike protein the virus uses.

But you also need to consider the vaccine all but bypasses your innate immune system (all vaccines do this) while a natural exposure does not.

This means for those with a robust and functioning immune system (innate and adaptive), your chances of having a severe case of COVID is much lower from natural infection. The innate immune system depletes the initial viral load such that you either; don't catch it; catch it but have minor or no symptoms; or (if your immune system is already compromised because of a comorbidity) you might get a severe care.

However, the initial load of mRNA the vaccine delivers is synonymous to having a much higher viral load that bypasses your innate immune system. While you don't technically get sick from COVID through the vaccine, you are introducing a mechanism to produce a toxin ( spike protein) that your body didn't have the capability to do before. This manipulation of having your body produce a toxin could pose a greater threat of myocarditis and thrombosis in otherwise healthy individuals because you are exposing a much larger pool of individuals (through vaccination) to a threat that bypasses their innate immune system.

The questions that arise for me on this are:

  1. Is the dose of mRNA too high? Did we do enough studies to find out if we can lower the amount and still elicit a sufficient response without having side effects?

  2. Are we positive that the spike proteins primarily stay within cells at the injection site (deltoid)? Two areas to address: First, do the ribosome produced spike proteins actually stay imbedded in the cell membrane like we are told or can they escape and enter systemic circulation? Second, we know some lipid nanoparticles (with embedded mRNA) from vaccine administration does enter systemic circulation but we are being told the liver metabolizes most of that and the amount that escapes is minuscule and not really a threat. Does actual real world data confirm clinical trial evidence for this?

  3. Are we positive that the production of spike proteins through mRNA translation at the ribosome is truly short term? The mRNA should not be entering the nucleolus and incorporating into the DNA but mechanisms do exist that allow for this, albeit a remote possibility.

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FireannDireach 4 points ago +4 / -0

I was told "Surely the risk of getting blood clots and myocarditis is less than catching covid?". Before that, it was "It's not just about you, it's about stopping the spread! You're killing people!".

I mean, you can't argue with stupid, especially when it's willing and purposeful. The reason to take the jab changes every week, it seems.

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mateus 1 point ago +1 / -0

Bingo! This is exactly the response of establishment medical professionals when confronted with those jab side-effects. Sadly, too many people are buying it.

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TonyTreehouse 19 points ago +19 / -0

I think clotting in the lungs is very high in people who died. That was known a couple months in. So almost a year and a half ago. I saw youtube videos. One on medcram. But they only really know from microscopic viewing of tissue from the autopsy, so it wouldn't necessarily make a symptom list. The doctor in Canada who said 85 percent or whatever it was of his patients who got the jab had clotting, only knew from a d dimer test from soon after. Past that, it wouldn't be detectable unless something notable happened from the clotting.

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TonyTreehouse 7 points ago +8 / -1

The medcram is episode 61 from April 2020 where he mentions lots of clotting. Titled "Blood clots and stokes in covid-19"

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PatPede1 5 points ago +5 / -0

Medcram is great. He was talking about the ravaging effects of Chinese Covid very early on. It invades everything, right down to the capillaries, fucking them up.

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TonyTreehouse 5 points ago +5 / -0

Their ventilatior videos were also really informative.

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Building7 13 points ago +13 / -0

I have lost three people close to me this year after getting the vaccine. All three died of blood clots. They were late 60s early 70s. No investigation, their wives just buried them without question. Even people in my family pretend like nothing bad happened, because who wants to cause trouble? I am completely numb to it at this point.

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10MeV 5 points ago +5 / -0

And yet, what would the reactions be if they had not had the vaccine? I am a bit horrified at what my own relatives would say. It is no secret I'm not a fan of the vaccine. So if I croaked from some bug, which they'd probably call "covid" because the tests can't differentiate it from other things, they'd probably say, "Oh too bad. He was so misled and wrong, and now he's dead because of it.". In fact I expect some might actually be a bit gleeful about it!

It would be just awful.

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MarkSuckABug [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

😢🙏

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SaltyDoodle 12 points ago +12 / -0

They’ve been pushing that narrative for months now. Do a web search for “covid damages heart” and you’ll find dozens of articles. Here’s just one example: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351

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makaza 11 points ago +11 / -0

I noticed that there has been a lot more blood clots for Covid deaths in recent months...

They are definitely turning it

That and the denouncement of Aspirin and other blood thinners which prevent clots and platelets forming.

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fristlast 11 points ago +11 / -0

I heard patriotism and media-apathy are signs of asymptomatic carriers.

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VanDiesel 6 points ago +6 / -0

All you have to do to this refute this narrative is point out it only happens to people who are jabbed. Any common jab side effect, such as elevated blood pressure, strokes, heart attacks, blood clots, bell's palsy, seizures, etc, that might get blamed on covid - it won't work because if you're unjabbed you won't experience these symptoms even if you do get covid.

Here is how the convo should go:

"You should get vaxxed because Fauci says covid causes blood clots, rates are up 300%"

"No, it's the jabs that are causing the blood clots - only people with the jabs are getting clots and strokes, they are trying to deflect blame and keep people in the dark"

They won't believe/agree right away, just invite them to look it up for themselves and end the conversation. Now they're primed to notice that everyone who gets the clots/strokes etc is jabbed and have a chance to wake up over time.

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AlphaOmaga 6 points ago +6 / -0

Next? https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351

Covid is already listed as causing (factually) heart clotting. Heart damage. Brain clotting. Brain damage. Temporary paralysis. Increased risk of Alzheimer’s. Increased risk of Parkinson’s. Lung damage. Etc. all from s1 spike proteins. (Except for the piling damage from pneumonia) clots tiny capillaries. Very very hard for your body to clean up.

Why would anyone inject themselves with something that makes your body created TRILLIONS of these spike proteins. Why?!

These are the symptoms of bombardment of those proteins. Why would you do that to yourself willingly. ?!

I’m not antivax, just saying there’s gotta be a better way.

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MadiV 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yeah that ship has sailed so I can't wait for them to roll out this narrative.

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mateus 4 points ago +4 / -0

... When, in reality, they're an "adverse effect" of the jabs

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NZ_Pede 3 points ago +3 / -0

This narrative has been showing up for the past month. I notice it more when reading shit on twatter. I don't remember hearing about this shit before the clot shot was introduced and now all of a sudden it's covid that's causing it.

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Dumbkunts 3 points ago +3 / -0

Covid that is spread by unvaccinated people caused vaccinated people to get blood clots!

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Grond999 3 points ago +4 / -1

I'm already used to one of the prior ones. Autism.....and I'm still struggling to find cases of 50 years olds in diapers due to severe autism.

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EricCiaramellaSuxDix 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don't think it's entirely wrong. I'm sure the clots from the shot are due to the spike protein people's bodies are manufacturing in places they shouldn't be (heart, ovaries, testicles), and the spike protein is a signature of the virus itself.

If it wasn't in the top 10 symptoms, it's probably because every single flu death was being called covid and people with covid were actually getting killed by lack of oxygen due to poor blood flow. (could be clot related)

Everything I've read lately points to covid being more of a vascular disease than a respiratory one, even though that's the opposite of how it's been treated.

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Demokraut_No_More 3 points ago +3 / -0

If they say go that route, it will destroy any bit of the small confidence in the GMI (Genetically Modified Injection) that is left amongst the sheep. The GMI will appear worthless if those that submitted are "getting Covid" and the symptoms you mentioned.

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Johnnyboy2324 3 points ago +3 / -0

They already are. The cnn guy who was on Rogans show kept saying it.

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8thGenPatriot 3 points ago +3 / -0

They're already trying to say that myocarditis is a symptom of covid

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8thGenPatriot 3 points ago +3 / -0

They're already trying to say that myocarditis is a symptom of covid

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badweatherbiker 2 points ago +2 / -0

Close friend died 2 days ago in the hospital with Covid of a major stroke , he was unvaccinated

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RedAltoids 2 points ago +2 / -0

They are already running with this.

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cream_y 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not to be a downer fellas but clotting and myocarditis were possible side effects of covid in young people lol, have been all along.

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HotCarl 1 point ago +1 / -0

I was given the impression that blood clots were the initial killer. If you make it past round one, round two is where the spike protein helps covid bind; essentially turning your immune system against you. If you make it to round three, you have to contend with potential autoimmune diseases and/or cancers from cellular damage.

"Rigma variant causes everything to turn to shit, so take another booster" -CNN's Gupta

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Waterlaw 1 point ago +1 / -0

they allrteady blame it on covid !, Its on the news in my country... clown world

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