No thanks (media.patriots.win)
posted ago by laurabranigan1 ago by laurabranigan1 +1751 / -8
Comments (299)
sorted by:
loooooof 258 points ago +265 / -7

Damn. Somebody has to advise him to get off the vaccine dick.

deleted 40 points ago +104 / -64
Spawnlingman 62 points ago +64 / -2

I've come to the conclusion, as a man with a family and a brain, I am not aligning myself with anyone. I have decided I fly two flags at my house. An American one, and a yellow one. I took down the Trump flags a while ago because I simply am not following a man based on just his ideas on 85% of topics I agree with. I am on this site because I believe in the core of our message, but Trump pushing the vaccine is an incredibly dangerous no-zone for me, regardless of whatever he has done.

Rudy_DankMemer 25 points ago +25 / -0

I am on this site because I believe in the core of our message, but Trump pushing the vaccine is an incredibly dangerous no-zone for me, regardless of whatever he has done.

You are not alone.

HoldthelineUSA2020 23 points ago +25 / -2

I don't wear another mans name on my cloths.

Yamel13 11 points ago +13 / -2

I agree! I find it also weird how men buy jerseys with another men’s last name on it. Communist Cuba has taught me a lot.

deleted 9 points ago +10 / -1
556y308 1 point ago +2 / -1


RichardNoggin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Bet money you do

HenkZeilstra 5 points ago +5 / -0


Weallseethetruth 4 points ago +4 / -0


Amaroq64 2 points ago +2 / -0

I tend to believe the general consensus of pedes up to now. He just wants to brag about operation warp speed and how he got it done so fast.

deleted 51 points ago +85 / -34
deleted 23 points ago +60 / -37
DonJr2024 74 points ago +95 / -21

Just stop. That's absolutely ridiculous. He's in an impossible position. And has both parties, all media, all big business, all big tech, all big pharma, all "unelected" government, and all military leaders against him.

You know if he gets back in he will cancel any mandates and will probably restore jobs of people that got turfed over this.

Ghostof_PatrickHenry 48 points ago +51 / -3

All he's doing here is heckling the Left. He is teasing that they must do everything by mandate, where he didn't have to. Still don't like the content of the messaging. Peter Navarro (man responsible for Operation Warp Speed), frankly, is doing a much better job of messaging than Trump is on the vaccines. (Saying they only ever intended for the very elderly and very sick to get it, and treat everybody else with therapeutics.)

We must remember that Trump has been very outspoken against Big Pharma. He even said that Big Pharma would be his #1 target/priority in the second term, the way the wall was the priority during his first.

This is also the New York Post. While they are the right-wing outlet of NYC, they still have posted plenty of anti-Trump pravda. So we need more clarity on the context of this statement.

Christineblaseyford 19 points ago +20 / -1

But in general “our guys” need to STFU about the stab.

noammoblues 8 points ago +9 / -1

Trump is also telling MAGA that he wont make shots mandatory. That's what I need to hear. His ego won't allow him to come out and say that his warp-sped "vaccine" doesn't work without endless boosters or that it's dangerous. I understand completely and Trump 2024!

TGNX 6 points ago +7 / -1

The media would fry him if he came out and said they don't work. He's walking a tightrope...again.

deleted 25 points ago +39 / -14
DonJr2024 4 points ago +20 / -16

No he doesn't have to say that. That's your opinion of (a) the vaccine and (b) what he should do.

But you are a nobody just like me. Your opinion is as worthless as the vaccine. Ok you wish Trump would do x. Good for you. Maybe he should. Maybe he has a reason he isn't. Whatever. Acquire some humility. You'll learn a lot more trying to understand what he might be going through vs just sitting there like a whiny baby with a wet diaper.

deleted 31 points ago +39 / -8
Spez_Isacuck 22 points ago +23 / -1

It’s not opinion that the “vaccine” doesn’t work. It’s a demonstrable fact.

Just ask Colin Powell. Oh wait...

deleted 17 points ago +20 / -3
SAHMiAM60 6 points ago +6 / -0

Okay so it's fact that the shots do nothing GOOD, but they definitely do something BAD.

RichardNoggin 0 points ago +2 / -2

You're an imbecile

deleted 1 point ago +4 / -3
deleted -2 points ago +1 / -3
deleted 1 point ago +2 / -1
deleted 1 point ago +1 / -0
DonJr2024 1 point ago +4 / -3

"Wah daddy Trump isn't complaining hard enough about issue number 4 out of the 99 country crippling issues. If only he complained harder, then Biden/CCP would surely listen.""

ZealConsumesMe -1 points ago +3 / -4

"Just stop" is a womanish and retarded thing to say. Why don't you go fuck yourself, asshole?

DonJr2024 1 point ago +5 / -4

First you guys are obsessed with having Trump say something you want to hear. Then you bitch about the words I use to call you out. My goodness dude. This site exists for Trump supporters. It's one thing to wish he would say something or other. It's another thing to whine like little bitches. So yeah, just stop. Grow up. Clean your face. Iron your shirt and go fucking do something about it.

Gletkin 2 points ago +2 / -0

Agree. We’re supposed to be frens here. Except when addressing obvious glowies or trolls we should be kind to each other. A gentle admonishment not to be a fag is okay if it’s meant to help. Telling people they should be sodomized with a broom handle is fucked up and it’s fucking up this site.

deleted 1 point ago +1 / -0
FormerLibtard94 31 points ago +39 / -8

I’ve been wanting to say something but didn’t wanna be called out. What better way to target and rid the constitutionalists then putting red hats on them and then framing them to be terrorists. Genius.

deleted 29 points ago +34 / -5
MewThat 18 points ago +20 / -2

Right. Pretty much the only excuse I can come up with for him is that it was about "secretly invoking the Insurrection Act", but like someone said, the longer this goes on, the less likely that was the case.

SteersBeersandQueers 9 points ago +10 / -1

Sad but possible

deleted 9 points ago +14 / -5
Rudy_DankMemer 5 points ago +5 / -0

What better way to target and rid the constitutionalists then putting red hats on them and then framing them to be terrorists. Genius.

Offline, this is a VERY real discussion. And it's coming up more often now than at any point during the last 5 years.

SHILL_DETECTOR 7 points ago +12 / -5

either he is exceptionally stupid, or he is a eugenecist

ArthurPendragon 3 points ago +5 / -2

Real eugenics is great. The vaccine thing is a DYSgenic attack on White people.

MAGAsJustBegun 4 points ago +4 / -0

Definitely not controlled opposition when both major parties work tirelessly to destroy him.

Perhaps he has loyalty to somewhere else, but it sure ain't wherever the Uni Party loyalty lies.

RichardNoggin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Y'all retarded for real then

deleted 18 points ago +23 / -5
deleted 12 points ago +12 / -0
HoldthelineUSA2020 18 points ago +18 / -0

After that retarded knunchuck shit from AZ AG, I pretty much threw in the towel.

I'm still voting for Allen west, but I dont really believe anything comes of it.

We fucked guys,

Only way out is through.

deleted 16 points ago +21 / -5
DonJr2024 8 points ago +17 / -9

You guys are real pieces of work. The guy was more honest and more forthright than anyone we've had since the country's earliest days. He got as much done as possible considering every single vested interest in the world was against him, including his own political party.

MeatloafFvck 7 points ago +7 / -0

But he still has not said that the vaccine mandates are unconstitutional

DonJr2024 4 points ago +4 / -0

And why do we care? Everyone does the opposite of what he says anyway. We have all made up our minds. I'm not taking it. I want Trump to get back in, in 2024. Maybe that's impossible because of cheating but it's the only chance we have at fixing the west, short of all out civil war.

Kingoftheroad 2 points ago +2 / -0

Including (some of) his own family

deleted 1 point ago +1 / -0
Amaroq64 1 point ago +1 / -0

And traitors within his own administration.

MAGA777Logistics 8 points ago +13 / -5

Israel first!

BoogaOoga2 31 points ago +36 / -5


If you notice.... Everything he and his son are saying is merely fuel for the left vs right fire. This fire is burning hotter than ever right now. The false dichotomy of left vs right, is THE crucial part of the divide and conquer strategy.

All the political theater exists to facilitate this divide.

If Trump was speaking about the REAL divide. The REAL dichotomy, which is people vs government. Globalism vs nationalism, then I'd be signing a different tune.

Is it is now though, he's acting exactly as controlled opposition would act.

HoldthelineUSA2020 16 points ago +16 / -0

false dichotomy of left vs right, this is the part my normie friends cant wrap their heads around.

They act like I think this way because I voted for trump and must be republican, but I tell them I am not republican, I just want America Freedom for all Americans.

Or they say muh tribalism, hahahaha

most are born to be ruled over, and the masses will do whatever the victor says to.

RoofKorean 3 points ago +4 / -1

He spoke about the real divide all throughout his presidency.

MewThat 2 points ago +3 / -1

Wow. very well put.

Hopeinfinity 1 point ago +1 / -0

Very astute post. Thankyou.

DonJr2024 -9 points ago +6 / -15

All that has happened is Jan 6. He learned that day that he is totally 100% up against a swamp at every single level. He's toned down his rhetoric immensely and is clearly playing the long game, which is 2024.

He's also letting the enemy perfectly expose themselves.

And he's very censored.

Just chill. There is no better alternative. Period.

deleted 11 points ago +14 / -3
DonJr2024 -8 points ago +3 / -11

Do YOU listen to yourself?

He is smarter than you or me. And more successful. And more experienced in nearly every aspect of business and politics. I mean you guys ragging on him are the epitome of a fatso sitting on his couch judging a poor pass by a QB.

Trump is completely censored. Nothing he says even matters at this time. He is surely working on many things but is clearly keeping things closer to his chest at this time. Whether your "opnions" are right or wrong, they are ultimately just opinions from a nobody. And I include myself.

You guys all need some humility.

tabularasa_556 3 points ago +4 / -1

If Trump wants to be a politician then he needs to be good at politics. We know leftists are never going to support him. Saying things like this make it easy for people to convince his base to abandon him.

It is objectively a bad move for him to say things like this. If he's so smart, he must know we all wish he would condemn the fake vaccines. But he doesn't. He continues to support them. Why? What's the big plan here?

DonJr2024 3 points ago +3 / -0

Abandon him to go where? DeSantis is the only other leader that looks remotely based and he is still not 10% of the man Trump is when you look at business and politics on a world scale.

Spez_Isacuck 6 points ago +8 / -2

2024 LOL

We’ll get what we vote for this time. surely!

DonJr2024 3 points ago +6 / -3

"I keep saying this - the country can be taken back (easily because the majority are fucking pissed right now) at the state level. And it's only a few states needed.

Get active in your state politics, get MAGA people involved, get rid of the non-MAGA, do what you can to turf Dominion and mail-in voting and make it illegal to take money from Zuckerburg or any outsider.

And some people need to register as Dems and get in at the poll centers. Next time they run votes 20 times a bundle at 3am we need "Dems" that video it and then call in help and physically shut it down."

From another thread today. I'm well aware of how fucked we all are. You can rant about it like an idiot or take measured steps to fix it. But hey let's rant and play armchair QB here for the next 2 years. That will really fix it. I mean after all we are smarter than Trump and more influential and lefties read this site and change their opinions based on our comments.

spaceforce_maganaut 2 points ago +3 / -1

Not sure why you're getting down voted. 100% correct.

HenkZeilstra 4 points ago +4 / -0

After he hired the swamp? Bill Barr, Wray, Jared Kushner ??

deleted 8 points ago +9 / -1
Olds777 6 points ago +8 / -2

He never mandated anything and is just hammering away at Joe from every angle to weaken his crumbling support even more. Joe and the Democrats hammered Trump over COVID for almost a year and he's just happy to humiliate Biden and make his life hell.

Smurfection 28 points ago +33 / -5

I don't think he can. Trump did Operation Warp Speed. All the adults in his family are jabbed. It would be political suicide for him to admit the clot shot is harmful.

Also, pay attention to what Trump is saying here....he's saying he wouldn't force the shot, he wouldn't mandate and he would leave it up to individuals to decide for themselves and their families. This position is the furthest to the "right" on the clot shot spectrum he can go.

Also, be aware, there are many fakers pretending to be MAGA supporters here that want to divide Trump from his supporters. We will never be as unified and as powerful with anyone beside Trump because the facts are, we're not really a uniting bunch. Trump still remains our best hope for winning in 2024 because he won in 2020, 2016.

I think it's right to question Trump and push back on him for his support for the clot shot, but we can't allow this to be deciding factor in our support for Trump and the MAGA movement.

loooooof 12 points ago +12 / -0

I largely agree. All valid points you make.

chickeninoven 11 points ago +15 / -4

Stop whitewashing it. His language here is "convince". That's a far cry from "leaving it up to individuals". You can leave it up to people without shilling for it at every opportunity. People know how and where to get it if they want it.

TommyJarvis 7 points ago +7 / -0

This is where most mainstream republicans are. They all say "if you want it, it should be available, if you don't that's up to you, but you REALLY SHOULD TAKE IT"

That's what DeSantis says, that's what Trump says, that's what most of the GOP says.

That's as far as they're all willing to go with this. As has been pointed out, most of us here don't really align with the republicans very often. I mean, most of us align better with republicans than with democrats though.

MagaMagaChooChoo 6 points ago +7 / -1

And the “you really should take it” is what we don’t like. I don’t appreciate politicians, who aren’t smart enough to work in the private sector, urging me to take an experimental, unapproved injection with known, serious, and pervasive side effects just because they say so. That includes Trump, and if he keeps pushing it, he can forget about 2024. I’m not dying for any politician, Trump included!

Smurfection 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think this is true. Also, as a leader, it's pretty hard to go up against the CDC, FDA and all the pharma and hospital administration across the entire country and say "Oh, the vaccines are a clot shot" without having some sort of consensus within the medical community. Now look, I think what Dr. Robert Malone, Peter McCollough, Simone Gold, Stella Immanuel, Ryan Cole and so many other physicians are doing is really heroic and I love them for it. The problem though, is that the medical establishment isn't behind them. How does someone who isn't a doctor, isn't a researcher and has no medical training get up in front of the entire nation and say "The Clot shot is a world depopulation mechanism created by evil" and not end up as a laughingstock.

I sincerely believe that is a depopulation mechanism created by evil but I'd be fired, laughed off the public stage and vilified as a kook and a nutcase if I said that publicly. My sister in law is an oncologist. She has recently been diagnosed with ovarian and colon cancer. She's getting the booster shot. My husbands entire family basically banished us from Thanksgiving, Christmas and all family get togethers because we won't get the vaccine. I'm not an MD. The MD in my husband's family thinks we're nuts and told the rest of the family that she fears us because we're not vaccinated.

I'm running into the same problem with my side of the family. I have a sister who is a physician's assistant. She thinks the vaccines are marvelous and a was really excited when they came out because it's new technology. She and her husband were jabbed early on and now her husband has colon cancer.

I can't even convince my only family. The majority of Americans have been jabbed so how can a politician, any politician of any stripe, get up in front of everyone in America and start "crazy talk" and not get laughed off the stage?

I love, I sincerely love our pedes and pray for all pedes every day and I politically aligned with this forum but sometimes, I think pedes on this forum think it is as easy as having some well known person just get up and start talking Truth with some Smack and things will roll our way. That's not how it works. Entire generations before now have been slowly and deliberatedly propagandized and can't question their own assumptions about the world much less the Fake News Media.

Honestly, my biggest fear is......that we are more right than we know and the big die off is going to happen. That's why no matter what my family and husband's family do to us for being unvaccinated, I can't get mad or angry at them because I fear my time with them is short. I'm afraid for my own salvation and for theirs. All I can do is pray for them and pray for me and hope that the die off isn't going to happen...and I don't want it to happen. Literally 90% of everyone I know and loved has been jabbed. Even if the die off is only 20 or 30%, that's still going to take down a significant part of people in my life that I love so very dearly.

Now, how does any one win an election on that platform? That's why Trump can't say more than he has about the vaccine. The Die Off pill is the hardest one to swallow and we don't even know if it's real.........yet.

TommyJarvis 3 points ago +3 / -0

I doubt it’ll be a big die off, but there’s going to be a lot of “rare” conditions, as well as a whole lot of birth defects.

They’ll never willingly admit to any of it and I’m sure Pfizer, et al have enough money to pay off anyone who could compel them to cop to it.

Smurfection 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think you may be right. However, we've already been seeing the fights between those who have suffered adverse reactions and the medical establishment. The medial establishment is basically saying there's no proof linking the majority of "rare" conditions to the vaccines. Meanwhile, those who are suffering the "rare" conditions and those of us who know what caused them, are being censored and silenced. How long does this fight go on and do we get any vindication or is this just another situation where five years from now, when it comes to light, the government says "oh oopsies! Robert Bright was wrong to squelch hydroxychoroquine and the FDA was wrong to slander ivermectin, but hey, he's a straight shooter and the FDA is mostly good He can stay in Fauci's old job as head of the CDC."

Unfortunately though, from what I've read, 100% of people who have myocarditis die within five years. A few studies said something along the lines of the vaccine suppresses Killer T-Cells which are the immunity cells that basically stop the common cancers that everyone gets on a regular basis. (three cancer cases in my extended family inthe last two months) Dr. Byram Bridle said the spike protein collects in the ovaries of women and girls among other organs and only 17% of mice that make up an animal portion trial for mRNA vaccines, could reproduce after getting the injection. Right now, the pregnancy rate is at a five year low in the U.S. I've read a couple of Fake News media articles are now encouraging vaxxed to get Covid 19 to improve their immunity because natural immunity is best....that assuming, getting COVID in the wild wouldn't actually be worse for them, as it would be for any other leaky vaccine. The strokes, the blood clots...we all understand this happens within the first two months, but how do we know that it doesn't keep happening for a year or two after being fully vaccinated.

The most convincing for me, is a pede said here about two weeks ago....The jabbed are tired and exhausted. Listen to them. It's taking a toll on them. Well, we're all tired and exhausted all the time in our society, but here's the thing, I have been listening, really listening...it's different this time. The jabbed are really suffering from tiredness and exhaustion. Pay attention and you'll hear it.

I hope the Big Die Off doesn't happen, my problem is, it looks like it's going to and trust me, I do not want it to happen.

fezg 3 points ago +3 / -0

My brother-in-law got jabbed maybe a month or two ago and now his saliva gland is blocked and lymph nodes getting swollen.

My dad got both shots of Modena months and months ago, had bad reaction but acts normal right now. He’s a strong guy, but I’m worried something could happen to him too.

glasses2020 -3 points ago +1 / -4

You’re very wrong. A lot of people here are just afraid of retards berating them for listening to their doctors because in most discussions there is no counter point other than platitudes.

This community still largely accepts Q prophecies.

I know many intelligent pedes who have completely written off .win because of how much retardation is tolerated and upvoted.

The search function doesn’t even work. The format is over a decade old. It’s impossible to uphold rules because people think “free speech” means no posting rules at all and start crying to moment they get shut down for retarded and pointless racism. This community is held together by people who take the time to call this shit out and report the handshakes.

MakeAmericaGreat9 5 points ago +5 / -0

If he bans mandates I don't give a fuck about the rest. Mandates need to be outright banned, placed into law as banned, and that is the only possible acceptable compromise here.

JohnCocktoastin 20 points ago +21 / -1

Agreed wholeheartedly. But on the flip side, nothing is stopping him from doing what he claims he could do. He could be out there pushing this shit and he isn't. So I am inclined to think he is trolling vs actually interested in pushing it.

However, makes me nervous af. How anyone sane could be saying anything other than pull this shit from the market is beyond me. The only thing I can think of is that his refusal to do that really dampens what they predictably want to do: blame him for why people won't take it.

deleted 12 points ago +13 / -1
TommyJarvis 13 points ago +13 / -0

Member when the crowd at his own rally booed when he brought up the vaXXX?

Yeah real cult like.

DestroyerofCobwebs 15 points ago +15 / -0

I take no issue with anyone trying to convince me. It's not going to work, and I'm not going to listen, but they can stand there and smack their lips at empty air forever, doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Where I draw a very clear, bright line, is when you tell me I don't have the right to disagree with your opinions, in making my own health care choices.

As long as Trump stays on the right side of that line, fine with me.

user20461 5 points ago +5 / -0

He should be able to reach that conclusion on his own.

Saxonlady 111 points ago +112 / -1

I'm afraid we will have to disagree on that Donald.

Skogin 24 points ago +24 / -0

Is this quote honest or taken out of context?

DonJr2024 28 points ago +33 / -5

Of course it's out of context. Was anything he ever said relayed straight?

He's saying he wouldn't do mandates. That's the important part.

SHILL_DETECTOR -7 points ago +2 / -9

its NY post...its accurate

tom_machine 6 points ago +7 / -1

Ya. The Murdoch family never lies.

SHILL_DETECTOR 1 point ago +5 / -4

trump on video saying "i would sell it"

wait till 6pm tonight to find the "i would convince people" quote

prepare to be not suprised that trump is still pushing the waccine

tom_machine 5 points ago +5 / -0

Great thing about selling a product (rather than mandating) is whether I purchase it or not is my fucking choice.

SHILL_DETECTOR 2 points ago +6 / -4

but he said that he is selling something because people trust him, essentially.

listen closely

so if you sell snake oil, you are a snake oil salesman

deleted -28 points ago +2 / -30
Apersonofinterest 61 points ago +61 / -0

Yeah no. Not gonna happen.

sustainable_saltmine 55 points ago +55 / -0

the problem is that we need to stop promoting vaccines as a first line of defense. We cant go injecting ourselves with chemicals the moment a new virus shows up. we need to be able to fight it with the immune system we have first, then supplement it with help from meds when what we have on our own just isn't enough.

We need to stop being DEPENDENT on medicine for everyday illnesses.

SuddenlyClintoned 14 points ago +14 / -0

I was down when they said "... For the old and vulnerable"

Then they went: "ok! 50-70, you're up!" and they lost me.

side_o_beef 8 points ago +8 / -0

and now it's "ok! 6months - 12 years, you're up!"

SuddenlyClintoned 5 points ago +5 / -0

You'd have been called a conspiracy theorist if you made that comment 6 months ago.

deleted 2 points ago +2 / -0
SuddenlyClintoned 1 point ago +1 / -0

I always believed the vaccine was a joke and wouldn't work. But at the time, I guess I thought it was just to get Trump out and Biden would want it to end for political points and to claim "recovery"

Coming up to the inauguration, I'd believed it would disappear in the summer like it had last year and people would either wake up to the lie or they'd let it end.

What a fruitless hope that was. Freedom will not be handed back to us.

Infectedblood 12 points ago +12 / -0

There's no money in that.

AntsCamera 7 points ago +8 / -1

Great post, this a million times.

Natural immunity is why Europeans killed off so many indians, we dealt with it for thousands of years, they didn't. Not anything they did intentionally, germ theory was hundreds of years away.

spelunking_librator 8 points ago +8 / -0

Indians was just 2 weeks away from receiving an immune system emergency update from their government. What a shame.

NvJohansson 3 points ago +3 / -0

Like in war of the worlds?

Jecovidwitness 41 points ago +41 / -0

I am not remotely interested in this vaccine. Not even Donald trump himself could talk me into it, if he couldn’t do it while still in office when they were new he DEFINITELY couldn’t do it after all the death and destruction they’ve caused. Hard NO. Quit talking about it.

spelunking_librator 3 points ago +3 / -0

What if he would declassify something awful about the covid and we would all be like "gimme that death juice asap"!

myswedishfriend 6 points ago +6 / -0

It doesn't work, that's the thing. High risk, no reward.

JeremiahKassin 4 points ago +4 / -0

The death juice has the same active means as damaging its host as the virus. Besides that, I trust no reports about this coming from the government, current or past. They've too obviously manipulated the data.

acasper 1 point ago +1 / -0

"This is a platform that the federal government can use to quickly inoculate people in the event of another biological weapon attack from China. Covid was the opening shot in a new war paradigm and now that the box has been opened we can expect future weapons with a higher fatality rate to be used. We must protect the homeland from this threat and this is our national contingency plan to do so. There have been abuses of federal funds and the perpetrators will be identified then prosecuted."

If he said something to that effect I would appreciate it and take it under consideration. The issue is that we would need to admit that federal funds have been used for many decades to both mitigate and develop biological weapons domestically in the United States.

DoIMAGAYouHornyBaby 28 points ago +28 / -0


RandomPanda 25 points ago +25 / -0

And let’s not forget that he bulldozed the way for the EUA for these retarded mRNA “vaccines”.

dres3 7 points ago +7 / -0

IIRC, he may have believed 'at the time' that the companies were acting in 'good faith' to get back to normal asap. And getting us out of lockdown-city all over the US. A lot of us are suspicious on first-time for ANYTHING, even Playstation 5s.

MasterOfIllusions 1 point ago +1 / -0

Emergency Use Authorization is the appropriate route for unproven experimental treatments. When the China virus first hit, lots of people were genuinely concerned for their health. Why shouldn't they have the right to try something that might help? Anything under EUA is supposed to be strictly optional. The problem is that all the talking heads started saying "SEE IT'S APPROVED, THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

RandomPanda 2 points ago +3 / -1

He EUA’d completely suspicious untested shit that rat fuck fauci promoted instead of EUAing hcq and ivermectin. It’s absolutely inexcusable

MasterOfIllusions 1 point ago +1 / -0

Come on, as soon as he even tweeted about hydroxychloroquine the talking heads said NO THAT IS ABSOLUTELY FORBIDDEN BECAUSE REASONS.

RandomPanda 3 points ago +4 / -1

And yet he could have forced FDA to EUA it just like he did with clot shots

ObamasLooseButthole 23 points ago +23 / -0

And I would tell him to fuck off just like I tell them to fuck off.

LArnix 21 points ago +22 / -1

He I just not reading the room on this one. You can tell when he brings it up during his Rallies its not well received but he keeps going.

Beardicus 14 points ago +14 / -0

He knows, yet he still pushes.

deleted 18 points ago +19 / -1
Beardicus 2 points ago +9 / -7

Most voters are pro vaccine, especially swing voters. We will vote for him because we have no choice. It's the right move politically.

chungus47 5 points ago +6 / -1

I'll be 35 by 2024 and am a citizen, vote for me.

Spez_Isacuck 4 points ago +4 / -0

We all know that a vote for ANYBODY is a vote for Biden.

Beardicus 2 points ago +2 / -0

What's your stance on the war on drugs?

chungus47 2 points ago +2 / -0

Marijuana should be treated like alcohol, all other drugs decriminalized. However if you're a meth addict and you're robbing someone's house and get shot, that's just too bad.

tabularasa_556 5 points ago +5 / -0

The availability of a "vaccine" is only a political issue to actual "right wingers" like us who would rightly remark that it's not a vaccine, it's experimental gene therapy. Aside from that, the "vaccine" is available. If you want it you can get it. Even if you don't want it you might still get it.

So why is this a "political move"? Who is he scoring points with by saying this?

He is decimating his base's enthusiasm with this bullshit, at a time where it's already weakened by a complete lack of faith in the election system. He went from someone everybody was excited to vote for, to someone who - as you claim - "we have no choice" but to vote for. That's the kind of shit people say about RINOs. And he did it with rhetoric like this.

The politician we need would call these what they are - dangerous experimental gene therapies - and campaign against mandates. The right move for Trump, having actually worked to create the "vaccines", is to just stop talking about them entirely, else simply attack the mandates. There is no reason for him to continue hawking this garbage.

Beardicus 1 point ago +1 / -0

"He is decimating his base's enthusiasm with this bullshit"... and yet his rallies are still packed.

The optimistic view of his stance is that he's playing to the majority.

tabularasa_556 6 points ago +6 / -0

Packed full of people booing him whenever he mentions vaccines, yeah. The more he talks about it, the less people like him.

The majority know there is a "vaccine" available. Statements like this - what do they accomplish? If you're someone who wanted the gene therapy, you'd have gotten it by now. If you don't want it, you don't want to hear him peddling it.

BallsackPaneer 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't think people like him less when he mentions it, they're just letting him know where they stand, and I think he's starting to get the message.

Beardicus 0 points ago +1 / -1

The man has been on the vaccine train all year. People keep packing the rallies, and he'd win the election again if they ran today.

As much as you think he's alienating his base, we have no where to go. Gonna vote for Liz Cheney? DeSantis is on the same Vax train Trump is. Even the third parties are garbage, the Libertarians went pro BLM.

tabularasa_556 4 points ago +4 / -0

Again with the "we have no where to go". That's not a winning strategy. There's always somewhere else to go and something else to do. People can always just not vote at all, or "protest vote" for some no-name who doesn't realistically have any chance of winning but actually speaks against the clot shot.

He's not playing to the majority with this, he's just shooting himself in the foot. There is no reason for him to be saying this. If he can't bring himself to aggressively condemn the mandates and campaign on making sure no such thing can ever happen again, then it would be better if he said nothing about gene therapy at all.

angryrhino83 2 points ago +2 / -0

People might be pro vaccine but people aren't pro mandate. And I still think a large percentage of people just won't admit publicly taking the vax was a mistake, so they still put on a pro vax front, even with pollsters.

Beardicus 3 points ago +3 / -0

Trump knows his base hates the vax, hard to ignore the boos. He's got some data that shows he should support it... or he's owned.

UpdootVeteran 2 points ago +2 / -0

I agree it’s one of those political things where you just have to find a purple narrative and go with it.

SHILL_DETECTOR 1 point ago +2 / -1

that can change quickly after halloween

but maybe they will blame the unvaccinated when all the vaccinated die and the unvaccinated are still alive

Uncle_Remus 14 points ago +16 / -2

I have one foot in the DeSantis pool and the other one the Trump pool. He keeps this covid vaccine bullshit up and I’m out. DeSantis has done a great job in Florida.

Retarddit_Refugee 10 points ago +10 / -0

DeSantis pushes the jab too. Modern politics in America means you have to kiss the big pharma ring. They own the news and the government bureaucracy.

deleted 5 points ago +5 / -0
Uncle_Remus 2 points ago +2 / -0

I hear ya.

Based45 7 points ago +7 / -0

NH is the only state to turn down federal money so they don’t have to promote the vaccine. DeSantos has to promote the vaccine to receive that money. It’s still sucks and he shouldn’t be doing it, but I do believe that’s the answer.

Uncle_Remus 2 points ago +2 / -0


Cavemantrump 13 points ago +13 / -0

Unless you Had Covid and Have Immunity.... They Left that Out

HanginChad 8 points ago +8 / -0

So what if someone didn't have covid? That's what my immune system is for.

Global_Tornado 13 points ago +13 / -0
  • and chicken soup

  • and healthy living

  • and over the counter drugs like aspirin

  • and delicious horse paste

  • staying away from vaxx-mutant super spreaders

  • and smoking apparently, fucking smoking protects you

HanginChad 5 points ago +5 / -0

I agree with everything but the delicious part.

But also:

  • Pepcid the antacid, (also Zantac that was on the market for decades before they realized there's a small chance of cancer, weird huh?)
  • Quercetin / Zinc
  • Vitamins C/D

It's like these people are scared of getting sick at all. Yeah it sucks, but it's a normal part of life.

Spez_Isacuck 3 points ago +3 / -0

Y’all forgot NAC (N-acetyl cistiene) too. The antioxidant dietary supplement that they quietly made prescription-only a few months ago when we learned it’s super effective against late-stage covid cytokine storm.

HanginChad 4 points ago +4 / -0

Oh right! I forgot. I got 6 bottles of it as soon as I found out about the FDA ban. I already gave out a few of those bottles to family.

TommyJarvis 1 point ago +1 / -0

Was about to updoot until that last bullet point.

Global_Tornado 2 points ago +2 / -0

it's true though. The damage that cigarettes do to your lungs prevents you from contracting a lot of airborne virii

SuperNards 1 point ago +1 / -0

Still doesn't seem worth it, lung cancer is one of the worst ways to go, saw it take my dad in 2004, wouldn't wish it on anyone.

Global_Tornado 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm not recommend it, it's just to show how ridiculous it is for people to be worried about the hoax virus.

Buck_Fiden 13 points ago +13 / -0

I made up my mind a year ago. Stephen Colbert and those dancing needles solidified my decision.

_Cabal_ 12 points ago +14 / -2

He's so cringe sometimes

JustLeaveMeTheFAlone 11 points ago +11 / -0

Would he convince people by making a vaccine that actually works? One that doesn’t have an odd correlation with high school athletes in peak condition having heart attacks?

Global_Tornado 10 points ago +10 / -0

He was the one trying to push alternate permanent cures like HCQ and Ivermectin and UV light treatments, before those were all attacked by THE SCIENCE(tm) from the vaxx companies.

dres3 7 points ago +7 / -0

Like the slight bouncing ideas back and forth about disinfecting from inside that the MSM latched onto to and turned into a train wreck.

HanginChad 4 points ago +4 / -0

Maybe there are viruses for which a vaccine can't be developed. Even the whole inactivated virus coronavirus vaccines don't work well.

Rerun1Central 10 points ago +10 / -0

I don't care what Pres. Trump thinks about vaccines - as long as he is against mandates, I'm still good with it.

SHILL_DETECTOR 3 points ago +7 / -4

mandates dont really exist though

its all coercion aka "convincing via fear / threats"

and donald is okay with this

deleted 2 points ago +2 / -0
deleted 8 points ago +10 / -2
chickeninoven 2 points ago +2 / -0

Kushner? On Rushmore? Would they have to include the hat?

deleted 2 points ago +2 / -0
tom_machine 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lot of those guys owned slaves, which was against the moral principles of the country’s founding, and has led to much of its turmoil. It’s almost like all men are imperfect or something. Now where have I heard that before…

kmillz 8 points ago +9 / -1

This thread is great and proof that we are not simply a cult who will do anything Trump says.

deleted 6 points ago +6 / -0
JanniesAreTrash 6 points ago +6 / -0

Maybe the second thing I vehemently disagree with the Don on. Fuck the vaccine.

ToodeepinCA 6 points ago +6 / -0

I’d rather deal with a guy trying to sell me something then a guy who is trying to force it in me. Trump paid for the rushed vax so it doesn’t surprise me that a business guy would want sell them. Trump has recommended other medicine last that we have all have agreed with and liberals have lied about. He definitely wants us to make our own decisions which can’t be said for everyone in charge right now

MythArcana 5 points ago +5 / -0

Stop pushing this toxic swill already! We don't want the shit!

FucKamala 5 points ago +5 / -0

Not convincing anybody with a brain, big guy

HumblePig 5 points ago +6 / -1

He can "convince" all day. I'll reserve my right to decline and continue to support him as president. We can have a difference of opinion as long as that difference doesn't mean you wielding your power to force me.

He convinced me to be closed borders (I was not in early 2016) so I'm open to changing my mind on things. They have not convinced me to change my mind on the vaccine yet.

00Gonzo 5 points ago +6 / -1

He’s just making a point. Remember, Trump never put all of his eggs in the vaccine basket. He also promoted HQC and monoclonal antibodies and other developing technologies.

He would have never mandated vaccines. But if he wanted the American people to take action, he would have done it through persuasion instead of executive order.

ahamrbond 5 points ago +6 / -1

If he hasn't figured this shit out yet, we have a problem here.


We need to focus on therapeutics. Ron DeSantis has cracked the code with Monoclonal Antibodies. India has cracked the code somehow (Ivermectin probably). This isn't rocket science. Jeeeez.

chickeninoven 4 points ago +7 / -3

What do they have on you, Donald? Or, what are they paying you?

Beardicus 5 points ago +6 / -1

They all push this crap, DeSantis does also.

spelunking_librator 0 points ago +1 / -1

They must know something or the know something that isn't so.

Beardicus 2 points ago +2 / -0

Probably playing to the polling. They don't want to be labeled an anti-vaxxer.

... or they all work for the same masters.

RealTXPatriot 4 points ago +4 / -0

yeh no

trad_patriot 4 points ago +4 / -0

He would convince me to tell him to fuck all the way off...

HoldthelineUSA2020 4 points ago +5 / -1

Agreed, he need to just STFU about the vaccine. It only hurts him, if he just said nothing but your choice he would be better off.

TheMAGAlorian787 4 points ago +4 / -0

This has been his biggest blind spot. He’s not infallible, but he’s still the best candidate by far, until RDS is ready.

dres3 4 points ago +4 / -0

Text of article of NY poop.

"Former President Donald Trump says he would not mandate COVID-19 vaccines if he were still in office because he’d “sell it” to people to take voluntarily.

President Biden last month announced that most federal workers must get vaccinated or face losing their jobs and that companies with 100 or more employees must require shots or regular testing — drawing pushback from critics who accused him of overreach.

“I wouldn’t say to anybody, ‘You have to.’ But I would sell it. Look, I’m very proud of what we did with the vaccines,” Trump told political news host Bill O’Reilly in an interview that will air at 8 p.m. Monday on The First TV.

“It was supposed to take five years and they said it wasn’t going to work. I did three vaccines in less than nine months and they do work, they work really well.”

Trump added: “I would convince people, take it. I don’t want to push it … When I was president, there was no talk about mandates or anything. Everybody wanted the vaccine. Now a lot of people don’t want it.”

Trump’s administration spearheaded the development of coronavirus vaccines through Operation Warp Speed, which poured billions into vaccine development and purchases.

The first successful vaccine trial data was reported by Pfizer less than a week after Biden defeated Trump in a campaign focused on management of the virus."

About 79 percent of US adults and more than 77 percent of people 12 and older have had at least one COVID-19 vaccine shot, according to CDC data. But the more contagious Delta variant of the virus has resulted in lower vaccine efficacy and inhibited the goal of reaching herd immunity.

The virus has killed more than 724,000 Americans.

Although Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris last year said they were suspicious of vaccine development under Trump, they have since taken credit for it. Biden said this month, “I first started the vaccination program,” despite largely following Trump’s rollout plan, which started administering shots in December before Biden took office.

Biden last month justified his new vaccine mandates by arguing that vaccine refusers were recklessly endangering others. “Our patience is wearing thin, and your refusal has cost all of us,” Biden said.

He said last week the private-sector mandate will take effect “soon.” The Republican National Committee says it will sue to halt that regulation and Texas Republican Gov. Greg Abbott signed an executive order last week claiming to nullify the federal mandate for the state’s businesses.

States won by Trump against Biden lag behind the rest of the country in vaccination rates, according to CDC data. Initial surveys found young people, Republicans and racial minorities were less likely to get vaccinated, but racial gaps were eliminated over time."

Remember everyone. No vaccine at the time wouldn't meant MORE lockdowns at that particular time.

Winterds001 4 points ago +4 / -0

no thanks orange man

QMAB 4 points ago +7 / -3

Between a rock and a hard place.... Sorry GEOTUS, the answer is still no.

Gmelindag 3 points ago +3 / -0

I absolutely love my president Mr. Donald J Trump and I would never take that fucking vaccine.

indigo_truther 3 points ago +3 / -0

i'd rather live but thanks anyway

dirtymikeandthebois 3 points ago +5 / -2

he's being a politician . He knows if he's anti clot shot completely he'll auto lose any chance at X% of voters and it would undermine what he thinks is his greatest achievement as president (and the only thing lefties might 'give him').

Stop being dumb like republicans. It's the entire reason why political lefties eat ass with this transgender and illegal immigrant stuff and minority pandering - they know it carves out a guaranteed niche of votes. Guarantee you many of them in a closed room and they are admitting it's all full of shit. They are better at the numbers game.

Yamikage 3 points ago +3 / -0

As long as he's not mandating it, I'm on board. If he can bring the data to the table and convince people, then I'd say go for it. I don't believe that data exists, but if he can prove me wrong.

TommyJarvis 3 points ago +3 / -0


From day 1 I knew COVID was bullshit. I knew it was how the left was going to get their way at the ballot box. I knew it was how maniacal politicians were going to seize power.

Trump allowed the media to bully him on covid and that mistake was in fact his very undoing. He wasn't the only politician who let themselves be bullied, but had Trump held firm on covid and not succumbed to the panic, it could have been handled without trashing the economy, giving unchecked power to tyrants and framing up the steal in November.

But Trump flinched (because he's a germaphobe?) and the left knew they had a winning narrative to execute the greatest crime in American history.

VanishedPants 3 points ago +3 / -0

I know what I need to know about the jab, Trump nor Jesus would be able to convince me to get it and thankfully neither of them would force me to

Global_Tornado 3 points ago +3 / -0

We make up our own mind and tell Trump when he's wrong....

And yet we're the cult.

Formerlurker92 3 points ago +3 / -0

One of his dumbest policy positions

EpsteinDidntKillHS 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think he's saying if it weren't already a shit show that he would have done it differently with a different approach. The reason nobody trusts this garbage is because of the backwards rules, rules for thee, forced jab, no explanations for why other meds aren't being used, etc.

He would have approached it more peacefully i think.

Global_Tornado 4 points ago +5 / -1

The reason they don't trust it is because there are 200,000 vaxx deaths in the US compared to the 35,000 actual corona deaths.

The shots are literally DEATH SHOTS that are holocausting the country.

ErosLove 2 points ago +2 / -0

See the thing is people like myself, I was open to possibly getting the vax after it had been out for a while and I could see for myself it's potential short and long term effects. I still don't know what to believe in terms of just how bad they can be. I do know that because of Biden's mandates and those of the liberal governors in my region I couldn't give less fucks about whether the vaccine is good or bad I will never fucking take it. So Trump is right be it good or bad he would have been far more effective at getting people like me to take it.

Susurro 2 points ago +2 / -0


Fakename 2 points ago +2 / -0

Naw fam

Grond999 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hmm....but Trump trumped covid in a few days. NO VAX REQUIRED. Meanwhile, the death stats for young men/teens are rising in England.

FuckTheFeds 2 points ago +2 / -0

As much as we love him. gotta disagree on this one.

glasses2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

He convinced the entire left to take it!

slimcoat 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not me.