posted ago by FreshFriggy ago by FreshFriggy +2977 / -21

If you recall, a year ago Trump stated that we would be capable of rolling out a vaccine by the end of the year, and the response by Fauci was that it wasn't possible and we would see maybe a limited supply starting to roll out in mid 2021 https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/517092-fauci-weighs-in-on-trump-cdc-vaccine-timeline

Meaning, they didn't even plan of having a widely available vaccine as I type this. They had a plan, and most importantly that plan required a slow roll out of both conditioning and vaccine availability. I'm going to assume that would also include mask mandates still being in effect this entire time because most of the population has yet to inject 'protection' from the virus.

Now I see a lot of speculation as to why Trump would help roll out this disastrous vaccine, and looking at things as a long term game, it might have been a brilliant move. It was right there in front of our face at the time too, Fauci scoffing at Trumps suggestion that a vaccine would be widely available very soon. The head of CDC scoffing at the Commander in Chief. That right there is very telling that something is not right, you would think the head of the CDC would be in active conversations with the white house and be informed on the vaccine rollout plans. Fauci was certain it wouldn't happen because it wasn't part of their plans, wasn't part of their slow rollout towards tyranny and globalism.

We very quickly went from "a limited supply of vaccines might start becoming available in mid 2021" to suddenly having 3 vaccines being shoved down our throats with bribes of free donuts and million dollar lotteries. We very quickly went from free donuts and million dollar lotteries to you're fired if you don't take it and you can't shop anywhere.

This is acceleration unlike anything I could ever imagine happening. Its too fast, and they might have an army of twitter bots and control of all mainstream media, but its still too much too fast for majority of Americans to accept or tolerate. It's too much too fast for them to have logical arguments or justification for what they are doing. Its too much too fast to not be seen as tyrannical corruption on an epic scale.

They were supposed to slowly move the goal post, slowly make it the norm to inject every man, woman and baby. Trump forced them to accelerate and as a result none of this timeline makes any sense when you step back and look at what led us to where we are. As a result of their acceleration and none of this making any sense, a lot less people got vaccinated than if they had more time to slowly condition people.

Out of all the people I know, the only ones that got vaccinated were the one's that were afraid that they weren't going to be able to do things in public this summer. That was about 15% of the people I know, and not one of them got it because they were afraid of getting covid.

Once the government mandated people get vaccinated or lose their jobs and be denied unemployment benefits, that's when most people who haven't been vaccinated definitely were not getting it now. They just moved too fast for most rational thinking people. You have complete madness in this entire situation. You have all these reports of 'rare vaccine side effect' which are causing severe permanent injury and death, for a virus that has over a 99% survival rate. You have people recovering from that virus in days if not hours with safer treatments and you have both the media and the CDC working hand in hand to convince you that those safer treatments are actually more dangerous. Complete lies from the people you are supposed to trust the most which is allowing thousands of people die a slow suffering death so they can profit.

They now want to 'quickly vaccinate' the children. That is a quote. "White House Unveils Plan To Quickly Vaccinate Children Ages 5-11". https://khn.org/morning-breakout/white-house-unveils-plan-to-quickly-vaccinate-children-ages-5-11/ It's complete acceleration and they are not even hiding it. They have to get this done as quick as possible, so much so that they are literally telling you as much.

Do not let them vaccinate the children. There is just no logical argument in doing so, in fact they have studies that show children don't even spread covid https://www.healthline.com/health-news/study-finds-kids-under-10-unlikely-to-spread-coronavirus-at-school

So if children have 99% chance to survive covid, and studies suggest children don't spread covid, then why is the white house 'quickly' moving to vaccinate all the children? Everything that is going on with our government is evil and twisted in ways that will be written about in history books and taught for many generations to come. I don't know, I could go on for day's about how fucked up everything is right now, from every angle, but injecting all of the children with a gene therapy who's main opponent is the guy who created it is a VERY bad idea. Don't vaccinate the children.

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cyberrigger 241 points ago +252 / -11

That's an interesting take.

Wasn't Hillary supposed to win?

So, basically Trump made them speed up and stumble.

AlphaNathan 183 points ago +203 / -20

Some people think God is always good but not always in control.

Some people think God is always in control but not always good.

God is always good and always in control.

Klown_Schwab 146 points ago +147 / -1

God is always good and always in control.

Not agreeing or disagreeing with your statement but it's cold comfort for the millions of Christians that died in Soviet and CCP gulags.

edit: what I'm saying is God's plan might not involve you having a happy ending in this life

resemblelife 103 points ago +107 / -4

No one was promised a happy life, nor a happy ending. We are here to learn, whatever it takes. Disney is a criminal mind fuck.

Wearyman 74 points ago +79 / -5

THIS. God's Love is offering Jesus to pay the price for you so that you can go to Heaven with God Forever. It is NOT "giving you a happy and carefree life in this world."

n4freedom 28 points ago +28 / -0

Happy and carefree you can be, but that doesn't mean unchallenged unopressed, etc. Jesus actually said we should live carefree, and also said in this world you will have tribulation. Steven smiled while being stoned to death, the other apostles sang and wrote letters about how great God is from prison. We probably don't understand what God can do for us because we live in such comfort

side_o_beef 14 points ago +15 / -1

Jesus never said to live carefree. He said seek God and His Kingdom first. What that means is to conceptualize the highest possible good you can and aim yourself at that. That’s the hardest thing that a human can do in their earthly life. Someone who is manifesting themselves in the world that way doesn’t have to worry about what they will eat, drink, or wear because all of those things will come your way as a result of the type of person you are. Aka, all these other things shall be added unto you.

HughJohnson 4 points ago +4 / -0

You are never "manifesting yourself" in this world. That is New Age/NWO deceit.God tests us in many ways in this world. Being at your lowest point and still having ultimate faith is what is all about. God does not manifest a home or clothes, those are of this material world, he manifests grace and forgiveness, especially when he need it the most.

Wearyman 6 points ago +6 / -0

Well said.

MrBabySpam 12 points ago +15 / -3

Im not sure you realize how long forever is and what it would be like to be conscious for... eternity.

COLDWARPATRIOT55 2 points ago +2 / -0

No one knows that. But we were born immortal. Our bodies we will shed but our souls live forever.

Keiichi81 -13 points ago +12 / -25

A lot of the people here who talk about cult-like behavior from the left would benefit from some introspection...

Faulkner 33 points ago +35 / -2

People who equate the Left's cult-like behavior with a 2,000+-year-old "cult" responsible for nearly everything good and beautiful in the world would benefit from some historical context.

iDrankTheCovfefe 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have benefitted from introspection, but I think you are oblivious to how much of all that you learned and value have their basis in Biblical concepts.

Wexit-Delecto 5 points ago +5 / -0

So, it has come to this.

Magaistan 3 points ago +3 / -0

It’s treason then

DoneWithThisShit -5 points ago +8 / -13

So God is like a government that demands trust? Side effects may include death?

basedsahm 20 points ago +22 / -2

Side effects may include not death, but eternal life.

DoneWithThisShit -3 points ago +5 / -8

So I like the idea of that on it's face, and how it promotes living a good life, but the same sort of required trust can be a double edged sword. I think it's similar to what suicide bombers use to justify their actions. Ever since Jan 6th Q nonsense I just feel like we should always be weary of any "operation trust" type deals.

Snoozebum 12 points ago +13 / -1

You might not believe, but the maniacs that are turning kids into trannies, and striving to implement a one world government believe the scriptures with every fiber of their being.

HughJohnson 3 points ago +3 / -0

Absolutely, which is why they are terrified and going all in in their evil machinations which they hope will save them in this material realm.

okboomer59 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not the ones I have argued with online.

DoneWithThisShit 0 points ago +5 / -5

I believe in a higher power, I just don't think we've figured out all the details yet. But ever since the January 6th Q debacle I just look at anything demanding trust with added skepticism is all...

COLDWARPATRIOT55 3 points ago +3 / -0

No, He demands nothing. If you believe in Him, you are willing to trust Him, because He offers Himself wholly to you in love. The rest is up to you. He also gave you free will to choose. Nothing about God is enslavement. It’s willing servanthood.

HughJohnson 3 points ago +3 / -0

Government is a man-made institution. God is not of this material world. Faith is a different matter than trust, faith in God foremost so you can trust that whatever trials are put to you.

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okboomer59 2 points ago +2 / -0

Death is a side effect of life.

PKShadilay 7 points ago +8 / -1

This. Earth is not our permanent home and you're not supposed to find happiness in this world. It's a proving grounds for souls.

HughJohnson 5 points ago +5 / -0

Jesus Christ told us many times to be in the world but not of the world. Love not this world (of materialism).

OhioRed87 7 points ago +7 / -0

I’m just here for the happy endings.....

ineedalawyer 27 points ago +30 / -3

Yes, this is the very hard pill to swallow for all of us, me included.

God works all things together for the good of His people, first to die in their place and make payment for their sins so they can be with Him in a happy heaven forever.

Second to help them bring Him glory on earth.

We ought always to fight for our country and the future for our children. We ought always to be angry and in great sorrow for our losses. We should never surrender. But if we die glorious deaths for His sake, we know it was not in vain.

I wrestle with fellow believers pretending that us dying in gulags is just as good as victory and securing freedom for our children. It's not. It's a horrible outcome. But it is not a vain outcome because it contributes to God's righteous fury He will someday pour out on these wicked people, vindicating us and Himself and His will for humanity that we should be doing instead of what they're perpetrating.

10MeV 21 points ago +22 / -1

We live in a fallen world. There is evil everywhere here, lodged squarely in the human heart. We each have the ability to do good or bad, and all too often we don't make the right choices. The "lost" will do what one would expect the lost to do.

We get confused because we think we are Good People. From God's perspective and standard, no one is "good", so we deserve... nothing. Any good we get is from grace.

"God works all together for good" is, in my humble opinion, isn't the clearest translation of the thought. It is also translated (NIV) "...in all things God works for the good of those who love him...".

This seems more correct, since the first interpretation would put all sorts of terrible things at God's feet. It really makes us struggle to understand, and to help others understand, just how God "works all together for good" in situations that are clearly disastrous.

On the other hand, living in a fallen world, prone to disasters due to man's disobedience and resulting fallen nature, to assert that God "works for the good of believers" even in bad situations is comforting.

ineedalawyer 5 points ago +5 / -0

Very well said Pede, thanks for this!

While none are righteous, not even one, I will say that God does view all sinners equally deserving of His wrath, but He does not view all sins equally. I think sinners like us can humbly know and acknowledge that ours is a righteous cause, though we have to live a lifestyle of repentance to live up to it. And it is grace that brought us here to pursue it in the first place.

10MeV 4 points ago +4 / -0

Thanks! I like the phrase, "a lifestyle of repentance". That's a great way to look at it!

okboomer59 3 points ago +3 / -0

It’s not that we deserve nothing. We deserve hell. It is only by God’s mercy and the love of Christ that we escape our just reward.

IBentMyWookie 3 points ago +3 / -0

I’m coming back to Christ, so this isn’t contention but an innocent question.

If God believes in free will doesn’t that directly opposed being flawed and damned from birth, just because we are human?

If I’m paying for the sin of Adam and Eve, how does that represent any type of choice?

okboomer59 4 points ago +4 / -0

Adam’s sin was defying the will of God. Every man except Jesus and his mother Mary has committed the exact same sin. I have done it more times than can be counted. We are not innocent of Adam’s sin. We are guilty ourselves of the same sin. We are not in need of salvation because of Adam, we need salvation because we ourselves are sinful. Without grace, free will leads us to sin.

ineedalawyer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well the Bible doesn't teach absolute free will not to sin, it teaches that we have a will that is corrupted and wants to sin no matter what self made religion we attempt to follow, because in our heart of hearts we want to disobey God's law and will.

Humans have agency and willingly choose to sin. No one cannot honestly say when they sinned, "God made me do it", because they wanted to do it, at least in that moment. But 100/100 times, given the same array of choices, humans will still choose sin, if not today then tomorrow. There is none righteous, no not even one. Everyone who goes to hell, does so because they have chosen their sin given this "free choice" to do whatever they wish. I mean think of this in your own life or the life of anyone you know? Can you or any of your circle honestly claim not to ever have willingly chosen to sin in your pasts?

This is why part of Christ's work was to send us the Holy Spirit and regenerate us to have a new nature that, for the first time, wants to obey God. This is where the war for Christians begins. We now have two natures, our old nature that wants to sin, and our new nature that loves Christ, loves the law, and wants to honor God.

10MeV 3 points ago +3 / -0

Indeed. Good clarification.

247MAGA 2 points ago +2 / -0

Why do we deserve hell?

okboomer59 1 point ago +1 / -0

Because we defy the will of God.

okboomer59 24 points ago +25 / -1

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

fapoo 5 points ago +5 / -0

Where is this from? I need to get this framed.

DeplorableFarmboy 4 points ago +4 / -0

Awesome scripture. Thank you for reminding me.

chickeninoven 4 points ago +8 / -4

Surprised you don't have more downvotes.

People don't appreciate you shattering their vision of everyone dancing away on a rainbow at the end.

vigilant_citizen 2 points ago +2 / -0

If you want a happy ending go to an AMP

FutureFreemason 10 points ago +10 / -0

you ever read revelation?

4n0n1776 15 points ago +15 / -0

Here's some good ones too:

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Psalms 7:11-13 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day. 12 If he turn not, he will whet his sword; he hath bent his bow, and made it ready. 13 He hath also prepared for him the instruments of death; he ordaineth his arrows against the persecutors.

ineedalawyer 11 points ago +13 / -2

God will vindicate His lordship and righteousness against all of these evil people someday.

In the meantime, we will continue to fight, pray, and have faith for the outcome.

ineedalawyer 13 points ago +17 / -4

Yes, and some of it could be going down now.

Or we could win massive victories for freedom, and continue to bless our children for a thousand generations.

We will never know which it is until unmistakable miracles start occurring, or we witness Christ's return. In the meantime, we must continue to fight under the assumption that God still wants us to be fruitful and multiply, and to be a righteous people that does not abuse our citizens but respects every man, woman and child's God-given freedoms.

FutureFreemason 1 point ago +4 / -3

you okay?

ineedalawyer 10 points ago +11 / -1

Haha, my company is rolling out the vax mandate and I have a newborn. Nope, not okay. But I'm fighting and committed alongside you all Pede

cyberrigger 12 points ago +12 / -0

Revelation 13:17

“And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.”

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sk39999999 8 points ago +9 / -1

Break free from the leftist programming in your religion where you always have to be controlled by an authority figure. God gave you free will for a reason dude.

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RealTXPatriot 4 points ago +4 / -0

And all men are created in the image of God.... including Sam Colt and Eugene Stoner.

HuggableBear 16 points ago +27 / -11

I love Trump, but people here give him too much credit, fauci and co too.

Trump knows shit all about vaccines. He's a businessman. He knows how to hire people that know about vaccines and how to remove red tape. He told them to have one before the election. They said "Sir, that's impossible."

He said "Fine, if you can't do it I'll find someone who can" and he went to talk to Pfizer and Moderna.

They said "We can do it if you waive the requirements for trials and make sure we're not liable."

Trump said "You've got a deal" because he knows shit all about medicine.

Fauci isn't some evil mastermind, he's just an entrenched leftist bureaucrat that hates Trump so fought him at every turn

Never ascribe to malice what can be explained by simple incompetence.

patR1OT 8 points ago +8 / -0

"Never ascribe to malice what can be explained by simple incompetence."

Bullshit. I'm so sick of hearing that. If you still think all that has happened is from incompetence and not pure evil trying to destroy our country, then you aren't paying attention. This bullshit administration is not incompetent. They are doing exactly what they are supposed to do, just like fauci did.

Bazhosh 3 points ago +3 / -0

Right on! There is a limit to how incompetent someone can be. After all were not talking about some brain dead hillbillies here. These people are very smart. Unfortunately very evil also.

HuggableBear -1 points ago +1 / -2

If you think fauci is part of the global cabal, i have some beachfront property to sell you. That little weasel is nothing more than a useful idiot.

Your problem is that you think there is this gigantic overarching plan in place involving millions of evil people and that's just not true. They can't plan for what happens in the world, it's too chaotic.

Instead, they have a shared vision of a global government run by the elite and yes, they actually believe that would make things better for everyone and we are just standing in the way as greedy selfish people.

When everyone has a shared goal, they don't have to plan. They just react to things in the same way because they all know what each new development can deliver them. If you think these people planned for a depopulation vaccine, you're nuts. They were all opposed to a vaccine literally until the day after the election, when they realized that now that they have the reins of power they can use it as a lever.

These people are evil, yes, but they are not that smart, they're not experts, and the only reason they have any clout is because they can provide access to money and power for the people who want it and are willing to play their game to get it.

They don't have to be told what to do. They already know what to do and are rewarded when they do it with access and accolades from the social elite.

patR1OT 1 point ago +1 / -0

Still don't think it's incompetence. Every single thing this administration has done is exactly what China would want us to do to help them and hurt us.

HuggableBear 1 point ago +1 / -0

I agree with the outcome and have zero doubt that chinese money is doing most of the buying of influence, but the Chinese aren't stupid.

Why would they go to the trouble of blackmailing and buying people off when fully 90% of DC is simply invested in China and will help them for free just to get their stock portfolio up?

It's not a grand global conspiracy, it's just millions of shit heads that all want the same outcome: money and power for themselves and they don't care who they hurt or what they destroy in the process of getting it.

Also, never underestimate what people are willing to do out of a sense of moral superiority. Every atrocity in history has been committed by people who thought they were better than everyone else.

QLARP 7 points ago +10 / -3

He's a businessman. He knows how to hire people

Eh didn't he hire 20 deep state people into the inner circle?

Ellen Chao was the secretary of transportation for 4 years lol

HuggableBear 3 points ago +4 / -1

Yep, because he's human and has his blind spots and is not now nor has he ever been an ideologue. He's a businessman who happens to be unbelievably patriotic and was sick to fucking death of watching America be treated like shit. He got in the office, didn't know shit about what most of the bureaucratic nonsense positions even do and put people in those positions that other people told him to trust because, again, Trump is a businessman and not a bureaucrat.

I love Trump and he was great for the economy. The end. I hope he gets another four years to try to fix this economic shitstorm, but when he's done we need a hardcore fucking right-wing ideologue that will push back hard.

FreeAsACagedEagle 2 points ago +2 / -0

The private sector billionaire was woefully naïve tot the level of corruption already within the federal government by the time he got into office "when he wasn't supposed to", and took the advice from those "on his side" who to hire to replace "the bad ones".

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QLARP 2 points ago +2 / -0

Shills don't even try anymore.

You know it's an art form right?

Pepelosi 14 points ago +15 / -1

Bingo. Which is why Hillary was in disbelief and also why they never ever called for an audit. Trump broke their algorithm or shall I say we did.

soysaucenuts 7 points ago +9 / -2

It was very telling that Hills never called for an audit.

Pepelosi 5 points ago +6 / -1

They know why and we know why.

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cyberrigger -3 points ago +1 / -4

The vaccine did offer some benefit at first, until the delta strain became dominant.

I agree that it's time to change course.

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I_Hate_Wet_Socks 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you could point me to an isolated virus for the first covid, I would appreciate it fren. Last I knew they could not isolate the original so I question the variants and how they tell them apart.

cyberrigger 1 point ago +1 / -0

My interpretation:

From what I have gathered, they did a massively parallel sequence of a sample.


This is like having a jigsaw puzzle, but not solving it. You take a picture of the pieces.

You send the picture to a computer and build a virtual version by guessing what it will look like.

You generate a virtual spike protein.

You build a virtual mRNA from it and CRISPR print it.

So no, they didn't actually put the puzzle together.

I_Hate_Wet_Socks 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks for providing this but it appears the answer to my question is no, there is not an actual real isolated virus. A virtual created virus, is still not the virus itself and excuse me if I question the "Science" behind that considering all the other fabulous information we have been fed for 2 years.

Just baffles my mind why they are unable to get an isolated real virus. I guess someday maybe we will get real answers.

Enjoy your day!

cyberrigger 1 point ago +1 / -0

Dr David Martin gave a similar analogy of looking at the threads of a tapestry

and how it doesn't give you the whole picture.

h203h 5 points ago +6 / -1

yes, he also knew they were going to rig the election and knew Pence would be a backstabber.

StableGeniusNJ 116 points ago +132 / -16

Trump accelerated the vaccine because he knew they they would keep us under tyrannical rule forever if it wasn't there.

He knew people, even retards, would say "why am I locked down if I am vaccinated?"

He didn't want us to be forced to take it but he knew it was the only way to stop the libs from total perpetual tyranny.

DroolingElmo 83 points ago +83 / -0

Funny how all my dimocrap friends were like I'm not taking any Trump vaccine and are now be like I need my booster booster. All it took was one stolen election

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ShowMeState90 17 points ago +17 / -0

Also applicable regarding their views of the FBI, military, etc.

loverat 8 points ago +8 / -0

This comment can not be rated high enough. I have seen leftards go after Big Pharma my entire 56 years on the planet - then suddenly - they are all for it. If THAT didn't make people take notice and realise Covid is a political pandemic and not a medical one - I don't know what it will take.

Imransgarage 15 points ago +15 / -0

Plus it red pilled the fuck outta the is community that was largely pro-vax/govt/pharma until last year.

Sorry folks but it’s true, 90% of pedes didn’t even know what Trump had said in the past on this.

CucksForTheDonald 12 points ago +12 / -0

Yup. Trump was going to do a vaccine task force with Robert F. Kennedy Jr, then he got "persuaded" out of it.



Angry 3 points ago +3 / -0

Don't forget they withheld the roll out of the first vaccine until Xiden was sworn in.

Optics and shit.

wethepepe 2 points ago +2 / -0

They literally injected themselves with the trump drug

They’re in a cult.

Big_Sam_Handwich 1 point ago +1 / -0

Gotta love clownworld eh?

VeilOfReality 21 points ago +23 / -2

If the globalists wanted to slow the roll out they could have, easily. Look at how they would not release anything before the election.

Lockdowns were pretty much over in most states already, I had been going throughout the country and only in the truest bluest areas were things still locked down.

The vaccine is going to be used to usher in escalating forms of control your average person has never dreamed of. Only a united humanity can stop it. Trump would have done a much better job by simply shining the light on this instead of playing 75D chess by forcing the vaccine out so quickly. Even if that WAS the plan, explain why he promotes the vaccine every chance he gets. Sure he's weakly against mandates (because he says everyone would want to get it if he were president, erego his goal is still to get everyone injected) but he spouts off how great these things are all the time and guess what - people do take it because of what he says. All these posts read like massive cope.

MAGA is a movement not a man.

Imransgarage 2 points ago +3 / -1

Simplest explanation is he’s contractually obligated to.

VeilOfReality 7 points ago +11 / -4

Contractually obligated to sing the praises of the vaccine whenever he speaks? Mr. Art of the Deal is a shitty negotiator then. Also doesn't explain how he's flip flopped on the boosters, one would have to think such an all encompassing contract would cover his stance on those too.

VeilOfReality 5 points ago +7 / -2

Downvoters care to address the points or?

Worldtraveler0405 19 points ago +19 / -0

u/War_Hamster A legit point and it might handed down to him. For even in my country more people are starting to wake up to the Corona Passport nonsense. Even though my parents unfortunately have the jab and I don't, they still agree with me it's bollocks. They're rational people. They won't accept invasion in our privacy.

War_Hamster 26 points ago +26 / -0

I'm intentionally withholding judgment on Trump when it comes to the vaxx. We don't know what he knew or didn't know.

Imransgarage 6 points ago +6 / -0

My thought is that his conditions of getting it developed and rolling it out were that he HAD to promote it.

We’ve seen some of the insane agreements leak.

War_Hamster 12 points ago +12 / -0

I'm still leaning towards thinking it was a political calculation so as not to be labeled a dreaded "anti-vaxxer".

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War_Hamster 12 points ago +12 / -0

That is certainly a possibility, but doesn't explain why he's continued to push the vaxx. He's usually better at reading the room and he damn well knows why he got booed.

NZbacon 9 points ago +10 / -1

That was calculated.

Those boos showed Trump supporters aren't puppets and can't be bought and sold.

That's scary as fuck to the establishment. They need sheep who follow a shepherd.

Kaiheitai 5 points ago +5 / -0

One guy against a massive, massive machine. A few fuckups are inevitable at best.

War_Hamster 5 points ago +5 / -0

I'm still open to it not having been a f*ckup. It's entirely possible his actions prevented something worse.

Worldtraveler0405 4 points ago +4 / -0

Also true. It's why I'm witholding judgement on Bush Jr. too, for what he knew about 9/11 beforehand and afterwards. In reference to, like Trump, being a Puppet President etc.

We just have to wait and see what happens in AZ and other US States doing an audit.

TheMoreYouKnowOkay 5 points ago +5 / -0

Bear in mind, shortly after the second tower was hit, and explosion at the pentagon, and there was reports of maybe another dozen plane hijackings, Bush Jr. appears on live TV in a school which is in unprotected airspace, and announces where he is.

Why in the world would POTUS do that and make himself a potential target? Why would the secret service allow it? It only makes sense if they knew there was no danger to do so.

We don't know what he did and did not know, but we know he knew enough that he would not be targeted, and the targets were elsewhere. They could trust that 100%.

MuhNameJeff 2 points ago +2 / -0

Smart man

dldeuce 7 points ago +12 / -5

Wouldn't it have been a better idea, to not do anything? To not kill and seriously injure hundreds of thousands globally? Wouldn't it have been better to do nothing and not start a fourth wave of breakthrough covid cases and deaths? Wouldn't it have been better to allow natural and herd immunity along with early treatment and prevention bring covid an end? Trump could have done that you know with just a few simple executive orders.

Observe95 14 points ago +14 / -0

Rewind your mind and go back to 2020.

HCQ was a known drug but there were expert doctors telling you how it was dangerous for you. People who even took it before were saying it was harmful if you took it for COVID.

They were against herd immunity. All they wanted were lockdowns and forcing people to wear masks.

Do you remember how DeSantis was attacked for keeping Florida beaches open? The female Representative in Michigan who was attacked for saying she took HCQ after hearing Trump talking about it.

The media scared the hell out of people that there was belief only a vaccine would do.

dldeuce 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yeah, and I knew they were all wrong about all of that as soon as it came out. Trump damn sure should have known that. They all do it. Look at every one speaking out against vaccines. They all start their comment with the predicate, "I'm not against vaccines." Fuck the media. We need politicians to blow up the press, the establishment uniparty, the swamp. We thought that was Trump. He was using fire crackers. We need nukes. Blow this shit up, and that politician will get re-elected.

dakin116 4 points ago +4 / -0

Same with "Don't mask our kids!" They shouldn't be masking anyone, regardless of age. Too much half-cucking from republicans, they're masters at it

Worldtraveler0405 1 point ago +1 / -0

I understand what you're saying. But sometimes "lessons" are learned better when you're directly confronted with it.

Know that Trump with his EO's could have just talked to millions of braindead people ... you know, once who don't have a critical mind. But even now they are waking up, due to Biden being so shitty. And the COVID Hoax getting exposed. Trump cannot rule as a Dictator. It had to be a "people's" movement etc.

dldeuce 1 point ago +1 / -0

Trump had control over the executive branch of government way more than anyone is willing to admit.

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Badfinz_FL 15 points ago +15 / -0

but we are under perpetual tyranny

15 days they said....here we are

majority of the major population centers have face diaper mandates.

"just give me 100 days...."

but now you need a vaccine passport to eat and pretty soon shop for food in many of our states and major metro areas.

Now they are pushing for children.

This is pure evil

I think the normies are mostly going along with the the fear porn and acquiescing to the boot on their necks.

I live in the free state of FL. Thank God.

however I'm forced to travel to commie shitholes like LA, SFO, NYC, SEA and Portland.

We are losing the battle in those places. Maybe the betas there need a kick to the balls and a good dose of freedom sapping tyranny. Some will wake up, the others, well useful idiots and will be the first to stuffed into the train cars.

BadManOrange 13 points ago +13 / -0

Trump could have said on day 1 screw your lockdown, screw your masks, screw your vaccines and we'd be back to normal today. Trump was either coerced to go along with it or trusted evil people who gave him crap information. That's my opinion in the matter.

StableGeniusNJ 5 points ago +5 / -0

Of course you're correct but we know he trusts the wrong people often.

AbrahamLincoln 113 points ago +124 / -11

I've heard this theory before, and it's wrong. Going along with the covid hoax only helped the globalists. Their tyranny is rolling out at incredible speed.

MolochHunter 54 points ago +56 / -2

yeap. From day dot he should have enforced adherence to standard medical methodology

no widening the criteria of 'cause of death'

no altering the definition of 'infection' to 'case'

why did he allow the PCR test to be used? Shoulda been scrapped. Shoulda been out front and centre saying 'asymptomatic spread is a fallacy'. And why dafuq did he leave Fauci in place as he exited the Whitehouse ?

DONT_reply_with_THIS 5 points ago +6 / -1

Trump couldn’t fire Fauci. It would take an act of congress.

QLARP 4 points ago +5 / -1

Sometimes Trump would try fire someone then the whole department would threaten to quit so he would back off.

DONT_reply_with_THIS 5 points ago +5 / -0

Should have let them quit. That’s cucked

MolochHunter 1 point ago +2 / -1

true , but he had the intelligence to eviscerate Fauci's credibility, ammunition he didnt use. And its now left to Rand Paul to stick his head above the parapet

MasterOfIllusions 4 points ago +4 / -0

Doesn't FDA decide what is "approved" or emergency-use-authorized? What control does the President actually have over those decisions, especially if the FDA doesn't want to play ball?

Papabravo12 1 point ago +1 / -0

Every day I wish he would have kept mocking COVID on Twitter mercilessly

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BadManOrange 41 points ago +42 / -1

Agree. I think Trump got taken for a ride. He doesn't know medicine and he trusted medical people who were dirty. Now he's just trying to save face rather than admitting he was duped.

ApolloConbraco 19 points ago +20 / -1

Just like he trusted his generals.

Pearls_Swine 17 points ago +19 / -2

Or pretty much everyone else

CoryInTheHouse1776 10 points ago +12 / -2

And the FBI, and the CIA, and the...

The_End_Arrives 4 points ago +4 / -0

And Lindsey Graham, and Mitch McConnel and and and...

Big_Sam_Handwich 3 points ago +3 / -0

AG Barr

DONT_reply_with_THIS 4 points ago +4 / -0

Or his faggot son in law

AutisticSchizo 2 points ago +2 / -0

And his retarded daughter.

QLARP 1 point ago +1 / -0

"We can't leave Afghanistan right now there is too much equipment left can you just give us 3 years?" - forever war generals

AmannamedRJ 13 points ago +14 / -1

I don't like Shill O'Reilly, But the talk on his show was something else. Trump was legitimately stumped for an acceptable answer when asked why Fauxi wasn't just removed. Trump's answer was akin to "Well he's a career bureaucrat sooo, but he had no power in my administration" When Trump's platform was to drain the swamp.

Why is that swampy motherfucker on the government's payroll? I'll tell you why. Because All these people played the long game with Trump, and he fell for it. He legitimately doesn't want to call these people evil, and that's commendable, but they are evil and they need to be PURGED from this nation.

Trump may now realize he has to play nice to get back into the Whitehouse. I don't see a legitimate way he's properly re-instated, especially if election fraud isn't fixed. Trump needs to come out swinging like he has a plan, or else people need to move on from him. Part of this is also on us. We're the biggest conservative outlet on the internet, but criticism of Trump's retard-tier plays is verboten around here. We need to light a fire under his ass. It's A-okay to like somebody, want them to win, but also to apply pressure.

Get the 10D chess bullshit out of here, come back down to reality and realize that Trump too is a man who can be mislead or make mistakes.

patriotswinning 4 points ago +4 / -0

Upvote for critical thinking and calling out those who forbid any legit criticism of Trump. I worry that Trump is more concerned with his legacy at this point rather than the good of the people. If he gets that second term I think it will because he agreed to play nice with whomever is pulling the strings.

QLARP 2 points ago +3 / -1

Basically covid lock downs happened under Trump but this really causes cognitive dissonance so it's easier to say he had a secret plan.

patR1OT 2 points ago +3 / -1

Yeah, but that was the states' call

QLARP 0 points ago +1 / -1

No red states would lock down under a Hillary order

QLARP -1 points ago +1 / -2

Sure whatever.

The_Knight_of_sunset 2 points ago +2 / -0

We're the biggest conservative outlet on the internet, but criticism of Trump's retard-tier plays is verboten around here.

Probably it is because of Rule #1 on the side bar:

Trump Supporters Our community is a high-energy rally for supporters of President Trump.

The problem with criticism of Trump is that, in the past and present, the board has a huge problem with shills, enemy agents, and people with very bad intentions that will try to use the criticism of Trump to put a wet blanket on the spirit of the board and to play divide-and-conquer games with the goal of crushing the biggest Trump-supporting board there is out there. The enemy legitimately fear Trump and his supporters; otherwise, why the hell they would invest in all of this effort when there are a thousand things they could be doing, and why else come here to criticize Trump when there are about a dozen huge sites (i.e. Reddit, etc.) that they can do so freely without a hostile reception

That is why sometimes, I get a bit trigger-happy when I see criticism of Trump, thinking it is another shill poisoning the site that needs to have a taste of the deport cannon.

Monsterfan 9 points ago +12 / -3

He has proven to be a pretty poor reader of people.

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Julia_J 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think he was just too trusting.

GreatestAmericanHero -7 points ago +1 / -8

or maybe he's just full of shit like every other politician

Julia_J 3 points ago +3 / -0

Trump is not a politician.

GreatestAmericanHero 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh. My mistake. Still full of shit though.

QLARP 1 point ago +1 / -0

He is the least full of shit out of hundreds.

45squared 1 point ago +1 / -0

I wish he would do a better job of pointing out he is, in fact, not a medical professional & he was making decisions based on people like Fauci…he should have done better deflecting blame & placing it on who was really responsible. So the covid response under him was horrible according to the left and is great now (though still actually horrible) and the common denominator is people like Fauci.

Big_Sam_Handwich 0 points ago +1 / -1

I agree 100%. Trump doesn't know everything. He was mislead by slimeballs. He was surrounded by many bad people. Unfortunately he doesn't always pick the best advisors.

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dldeuce 5 points ago +6 / -1

Trump did a lot of good things. I didn’t agree with a lot of things he did. The pandemic was an utter disaster. I look in the end to what was the end result. Look where we are now. What good did his policies do for me in the long run?

AmannamedRJ 3 points ago +4 / -1

I don't agree. The original lockdown to figure out what the fuck happened was reasonable-ish (14 days). Trump's economy had a powerful buffer for this shit too which is why despite being 10 months into Biden's disaster of a first turn we're still not officially in a recession.

Trump did his job well however and left the handling of lockdowns to the STATES. Trump did not invoke any form of executive overreach with the lockdowns - this has been a good thing in the long run. Biden's heavy-handed federal """""mandates""""" are now jarring people away from the ideas of getting a jab for this very reason.

It's funny that his apologists have gone from god emporer VSGEOTUS to clueless, naive, and mislead at every turn for 4 years.

Ehhhh. Also Don't agree here. It was obvious from the get-go that Trump was a political newcomer and had a certain amount of naivete to his administration. Certain picks were just jarring, even to people who tried to keep places like The_donald mostly positive. After a while it became clear that Trump was great at his game. He did a LOT despite being knee-capped by an establishment that doesn't want him to do any of it. Trump's administration has garnered enough good will from me to honestly believe that Covid was a pincer attack that Trump had no real plan for.

Hear me out:

Covid was made in the level 4 Lab in Wuhan that Fauci x Obama tried to make happen. Certain documents from half a decade ago talk about a SARS/CORONAVIRUS pandemic circa 2020-2025, and individuals like Bill Gates were talking about Mandating vaccines, and population control. By the end of "YEAR ONE" (2020) The world economic Forum goes public with plans of a Great Reset (This is literally just a link to the WEF's website, BTW) accompanied by politicians around the world speaking fondly of a New World Order. By the end of "Year One" NOBODY in the upper eschelon of government seems even remotely afraid of COVID (Because they know what it is - they made it).

The entire Pandemic from it's invention to it's proliferation, to the public "measures" and responses has been orchestrated by the evil people currently in charge. I don't think there was anything that Trump could have done against it. Play to the fear? He loses. Blame China? They can slander him again. This shit has been in the works for decades now. The slow rollout of social credit systems to match China.

At this point, the only REAL solution to save this nation is to completely up-end kill the tyrants, and rebuild. And they figured that may happen So behind trump's back they staged a coup. And they were very careful to do this BEFORE anything could happen when the bulk of real patriots showed up. THIS is why it happened when Trump was miles away at the actual rally. And they used these glow ops to scare us into submission.

I don't think Trump would ever go that far, but he definitely needs to.

sk39999999 2 points ago +4 / -2

Please explain how you would have saved the world if you were President

Wexit-Delecto 5 points ago +5 / -0

President Trump should have declared an insurrection. That’s what it is, he would have been right to do it.

KekistaniMemeLord 1 point ago +1 / -0

it actually didn't. This whole shitshow were in was carefully laid out years in advance and was supposed to end by 2030. Hell this is how these fucksticks have worked for decades, slowly but surely inching and creeping forward quietly as to not disturb the sleeping lions in the population. Consolidating power and working toward global tyranny in the shadows inch by inch with tiny little power grabs people would stop whining about in a week.

almost like inertia and physics, when you're in your car or an airplane at cruising speeds you don't feel anything and are quite comfortable and can't stand and sit like you aren't moving at all. But what you do feel are large forces and rapid accelerations and decelerations. This is pretty much what Trump did, he fucking floored the gas and now alot of people are waking up from their nap.

rentfREEEE_since2016 50 points ago +55 / -5

I don’t follow this at all. Are you suggesting that Trump intentionally accelerated this to thwart their plans? Unlikely. Trump is pretty on board with the vaccines.

I disagree that they had a slow plan. The entire situation is working brilliantly. Capitalize on initial disaster, incrementally increase, inspire hope summer 2021 of normal life , then crush it and demonize your political enemies as the culprits.

The mandates have had the desired effect. Corporate America is implementing them and I’d say mostly people are complying “voluntarily “ through coercion.

It’s the same playbook as 9-11. TSA DHS bullshit.

VeilOfReality 20 points ago +20 / -0

The globalists have literally written books on this, and it's well within the predicted timetable yet people still think the plan was ruined through this "acceleration".

Forbidden_outcast 3 points ago +5 / -2

I don’t think it was ruined. I think they had to play catch up after missing 4 years when Hillary lost, and also get it done before midterm elections, in case they lose the house or senate.

QLARP 2 points ago +4 / -2

This just sounds like fantasy make believe to cover up cognitive dissonance surrounding lockdowns happening under Trump.

We elected Trump to reject the CDC guidelines of 2 weeks to flatten the curve.

Forbidden_outcast 4 points ago +5 / -1

But honestly.... in the beginning..... no one knew what was happening. Even me. It only took me a couple weeks to a month, but I’m not responsible for 340 million people. Having that responsibility kind of changes the mindset. You have to work cautiously and carefully.

And at first, Trump had no choice but believe the medical professionals. I think he came to know, too- that they were bunk.... but what he could do at that point? If he called off everything medical and fired everyone and opened everything back up, we would have seen the media glorifying tragic deaths over and over again... the very worst cases. And after time, that would have caused riots in the streets. It would be false- (grossly exaggerated) but that’s what the media does.

Trump was literally surrounded by people trying to bring him down. He had like 4 people truly on his side. The entire rest of the US government was against him. But he held strong.

I do NOT agree with him on the vaccines. But this thing has the death rate of the flu and I don’t even get flu shots.... let alone this mRNA bs.

covok48 1 point ago +2 / -1

Most people easily understood what was going on with even the most passing understanding of history.

MuhNameJeff 2 points ago +2 / -0

Trump purposely put Fauci front and center to draw attention to him. This absolutely sounds like something he would do

cyberrigger 2 points ago +3 / -1

The theory is that without the "vaccine" we would have excruciatingly long lockdowns.

The vaccine WAS helping somewhat UNTIL the delta strain.

It did give a gulp of air.

Now we need to change course.

Horsepaste and therapies seem to be the final cure.

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cyberrigger 2 points ago +2 / -0

I one of Dr. McCullough's videos he shows that there there were several strains.

The "vaccine" killed most of the others strains off and the delta became dominant

because it was "vaccine" resistant.

It's more like there always was a delta.

Jackdaniell 44 points ago +90 / -46

This is fucking retarded.

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VeilOfReality 12 points ago +17 / -5

This isn't speculation it's fan fiction, speculation needs to be in line with available evidence. This is not. At all.

Xuvial 1 point ago +1 / -0

speculation needs to be in line with available evidence

Even if the evidence is being covered up, and the lack of direct evidence is itself being used as the basis of the theory? It's amazing how many claims operate on that logic.

VeilOfReality 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, lack of evidence can sometimes be evidentiary provided there isn't any to the contrary of the given theory... But in this case there is a good amount of evidence being discarded to come to a desired conclusion. It seems more like modern "science" than anything

dldeuce 6 points ago +7 / -1

So, just like all the other GOP RINOs, Trump went along with the leftist globalist agenda, and all the consequences that could have easily been predicted, to look good in the press and win his election? Do we want that from our politicians, or should we look for someone that nuked the press, killed the vaxes, killed the lockdowns, blew up the FDA, NIH, and CDC, and went with natural herd immunity, early treatment, and preventatives?

FormerGraveheart 1 point ago +1 / -0

So, just like all the other GOP RINOs, Trump went along with the leftist globalist agenda, and all the consequences that could have easily been predicted, to look good in the press and win his election?


Do we want that from our politicians,


or should we look for someone that nuked the press, killed the vaxes, killed the lockdowns, blew up the FDA, NIH, and CDC, and went with natural herd immunity, early treatment, and preventatives?

Yes, that option. Who's that, though?

yummy_yumm_yumms 3 points ago +3 / -0

I agree that he was most-likely doing it to look good for re-election since the previous 4 years it was nothing but Russia Russia Russia, but part of what OP is saying could be true. That it forced them to speed up the time line. If you look back at that little twerp Fauci's FIOA emails, Zuckerfag and Fauci were discussing the plans for the vaccine acceptance campaign, all while saying it wouldn't be done quickly in public to go against what Trump was saying, which was that we were going to get a vaccine out quickly. So I think Trump trying to look as good as he could for the election might have had positive unintended consequences by forcing them to speed everything up. They sure did go from free shit to you aren't going to work anymore until you get the Fauci ouchie pretty quickly.

AlcoholicRetard 13 points ago +15 / -2

Can confirm

Hunter4467 8 points ago +28 / -20

And it's stickied so hundreds of pedes will waste their fucking time with it. Mods are FBI interns.

MuhNameJeff 2 points ago +2 / -0

Got a better idea?

The_Knight_of_sunset 3 points ago +3 / -0

Don't wait for an answer. Look at the account posting that. Joined at least a year ago, but barely have a post store to his name. Probably a shill account that was put into cold storage back then and was brought out today.

Deport the shill and move on.

MuhNameJeff 2 points ago +2 / -0

Good reminder to check post history before engaging....ty pede

rentfREEEE_since2016 1 point ago +2 / -1

More “trust the plan” bullshit. There was no plan. And if there was it was a shitty plan.

onomatopoeia 35 points ago +41 / -6

Ah yes, ruin your enemies plans... by speeding them up. Hey let's just pass amnesty for illegals and communist policies ourselves to fuck up the Left's agenda, amirite?

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JimEagle76 33 points ago +36 / -3

The vaxx was the plan you rubes. It was always going to kill you regardless of when it came out. This whole "Trump made them rush" is an excuse to defend him. Lockdowns were mainly over in red states when the kill shot came out. I'm not saying Trump was in on it, but he better get on the right side of this soon.

Sumarongi 27 points ago +29 / -2

This. I’m sick of the rationalizing. Trump doesn’t deserve a pass for the role he played in this bullshit.

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Observe95 0 points ago +2 / -2

Lockdowns were mainly over in red states when the kill shot came out.

But not in the blue states and that was killing the recovery. Blue states were for more lock downs.

JimEagle76 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yea. Blue states still have restrictions. Plus they are actively sabotaging the country financially while Biden funnels covid cash to prop them up. Fuck the jab, it's done nothing but kill people.

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dldeuce 11 points ago +12 / -1

Yeah, and he's still bragging about it, damn the consequences.

sk39999999 -4 points ago +3 / -7

REEEEEEEE Trump has never been strategic, I can only take things at face value. All I can do is call people names like a child

Hollywoodspypede -1 points ago +1 / -2

Trump needs to tell everyone the jabs are full of Graphene Oxide and metallic parasites that link together and connect to 5G. He needs to go on The Stew Peters Show with the Polish scientist and Dr Ruby. Only really good progress would come of that!!! It would be good for everyone involved! He would be taken 100% seriously after THAT!!

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Massive_Reaction 23 points ago +27 / -4

Why? the mods stickied it.

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VeilOfReality 7 points ago +7 / -0

That's exactly it. I've heard ridiculous claims like "he needs to keep being for the vaccine so people see his supporters think for themselves" which, even if that motivation made sense on its face, does not explain why he talks about it at all his rallies which only his supporters watch. It's cope on a rope.

MolochHunter 2 points ago +2 / -0

its a motivation / explanation that could only hold water if the vax wasnt the most deadly and injurious medical product ever marketed. But in that context, its unconscionable game-playing

FormerGraveheart 1 point ago +1 / -0

Our mods suck ass. Anaconda is still here, for fuck's sake. And shills are overrunning the place.

BritLee 25 points ago +32 / -7

I think that Trump bringing out a “vax” was the equivalent of skipping to the last chapter in a book. If he didn’t do that then we’d still be in total lockdown or even more draconian restrictions. Bringing out “a vax” right away put a spanner in the works.

Imransgarage 3 points ago +4 / -1

Easy answer is they would have launched it the second they got Trump out of office and then congratulated themselves from here to eternity.

“Trump couldn’t but globohomo did, muh sceinzce!!!”

Covid was their campaign platform and now they are standing there holding their dicks literally saying “how about more authoritarianism” as the only thing they have left.

Robert 4 points ago +4 / -0

Implying communists would ever give up control after implementing lockdowns.


slimcoat 24 points ago +27 / -3

This take seems a little delusional, a little "tick tock / two more weeks". This doesn't feel like a knot in the globalist takeover. This feels like a well-coordinated, brazen power grab and the "vaccine" is just one step in the plan.

WaxMyBallsBernie 1 point ago +1 / -0

The point about how they all said Trump was lying and we wouldn't have vaccines is true though. How do explain that?

slimcoat 4 points ago +5 / -1

The simplest explanation is just TDS. They disagreed with everything he said.

Hunter4467 20 points ago +52 / -32

And you sticky it. Jesus you should need an IQ test to be a mod, this is ridiculous.

Xanisor 17 points ago +21 / -4

An FBI badge is enough.

strawman7 2 points ago +8 / -6


A-Man-With-Balls 12 points ago +13 / -1

Yeah I like Trump, a lot. But this sticky and the "perspective" makes as much sense as an obese transsexual secretary of health

Axiom502 9 points ago +9 / -0

It's pure retardation

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Hunter4467 5 points ago +14 / -9

Keep reading this retarded bullshit then I guess. It's really not too much to ask to not post boomer rants to the front page.

strawman7 10 points ago +12 / -2

Muh 4D chess, though. Giving them what they want so we can catch them all! We're almost there!

Hunter4467 7 points ago +10 / -3

Just do nothing and trust the plan!

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Hunter4467 1 point ago +4 / -3

I have 2.

HoppyHap 3 points ago +7 / -4

Programming works and you are good example. You should be welcoming all ideas and discourse and not just the ones that you agree with. You sound exactly like the democrats hiding from ideas that they do not like. Let everyone have their say and people can either agree or not. Everyone should have a go in the ring.

VeilOfReality 8 points ago +8 / -0

This has nothing to do with programming, this is wish fulfillment. There are a bunch of actions that don't line up with this master plan motivation. At best Trump is ignorant.

potbelliedgoblino 4 points ago +4 / -0

Time is precious. You can waste it all trying to put square pegs into round holes.

ProductConnoisseur 19 points ago +22 / -3

Big flaw in your logic: if they wanted a slow drip nothing was stopping them from doling it out slowly after "winning" the election. The ball was in their court.

Trump made the wrong call. It wasn't 4d chess. In fact he's still pro-vax; he says as much at his rallies.

freedom2520 -6 points ago +1 / -7

They aren't a monolith -- they're a consortium of billionaires, and they can be turned on each other. That's what happened -- Trump used their greed against them by making it a competition. Whoever was to market first got huge profits.

I wrote about this months ago https://communities.win/p/12kFGN8RSK/x/c/4JDFdjOjVX2

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4n0n1776 5 points ago +5 / -0

Occam's razor applies here.

gogueofreeee 14 points ago +15 / -1

I think you started out thinking of a way to absolve Trump for playing along with coof lock downs and the clot shot like a game show host reading the script put in front of him and everything else just revolves around that need to absolve Trump.

I have an alternative theory. Everything happened according to the script because CIA assassins woke Trump up in bed in the early part of 2020 and told him to read the coof script or they would tell Ghislaine Maxwell the Mossad asset to tell the world he raped kids and then they would kill his entire family and the media would report it as accidents and suicides just like with people like Michael Hastings and Jeffrey Epstein.

That would explain why he didn't federally stop states from lock downs and why he didn't call the national guard to DC himself after the election was stolen from him.

We watched the FBI use the U.S. code to try to frame Trump and his family for treason, a capitol crime punishable by death, for three years, with the total backing and collusion of all major media, and with the silent support of most elected republicans. They were working to murder the setting president out in the open for everyone to see.

If they did that in the open, what do you think they were doing behind closed doors.

I think a lot of people are still suffering from the delusion that Trump had power. He was one man surrounded by psychotic murderers that have captured this nations government. The Russian collusion hoax proved that. The impeachment proved that. Coof proved that. The theft of the 2020 election from Trump, but not GOP congressmen proves that. There is a one party system, and they wanted Trump out or dead.

AbrahamLincoln 9 points ago +9 / -0

One could probably pinpoint the exact night with a little research. At the end of February he was rightfully calling covid a hoax designed to steal the election. Then sometime between then and March 15, it's like a switch was flipped. We got "15 days to slow the spread", Fauci taking over press briefings with his nonsense charts, mask propaganda everywhere, and absolutely zero effort to secure the election despite constantly telling us how they were going to steal it.

gogueofreeee 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, I would say that you are exactly right.

But I think the hidden hand really knew they could gull him when he allowed the FBI to convict him in the mind of the public of treason. At that point he should have literally sent the Marines into Quantico and Langley. When he didn't they knew he would allow them to basically convict him of treason from whole cloth, they knew they could steal the election in 2018 and again in 2020 if they had proper leverage.

Julia_J 1 point ago +1 / -0

Trump never called covid a hoax. He called the Democrat's reaction to it and his precautions a hoax.

Here_we_go 13 points ago +14 / -1

Yeah trump should get "credit" with a shit vax that kills people, doesnt work and us being held hostage with it.


Fuck the jab and fuck anyone that puts it in a good light, including trump.

And fuck anyone that doesn't think they are still tinkering with ingredients to fuck people up with it in years to come.

Southboundanddown 13 points ago +14 / -1

This reads like Qanon fan fiction, hard pass.

Runfree 13 points ago +13 / -0

Trump meant it for good and they have used it for evil

Ok but now Trump needs to get up to speed and at the very least quit pushing the vaccine and taking credit for it.

Otherwise I loose faith in him.

Titus45 3 points ago +3 / -0

For better or worse he gets credit for it. By now he should be seeing how useless it is. He does need to stop promoting it as something good. Maybe deep down he knows this, but his ego isn't letting him yet.

trollindirty14 11 points ago +13 / -2

trump did warp speed to help his chances at winning the election. no mystery there. whats mysterious to me is why hes making tons of PRs/interviews and hes not mentioning how the mandates are evil.

WhiteTrashJesus 0 points ago +2 / -2

I mean he is saying it's un-American, unconstitutional, etc. but he is not going to war against it. I like to think of it this way, and yes I am being fired for not getting it.

Any company that goes along with this is either financially dependent on the federal government in some way, or run by commies (SWAMP/SLEAZE).

People who have critical thinking skills will get fired and those companies will go to shit. They will also be sued.

Vaccine mandates are woke and everything woke goes to shit

This is a great way to drain the swamp from the bottom up.

Yes people will get the vaccine who wouldn't otherwise (cuck level 9000 although I do feel for them), and yes some people will be out of a job. People will learn not to let themselves become financially dependent on sleaze. And people will actually have no choice but to boycott swamp businesses by not providing labor or revenue to them.

But if you consider the fact that the vaccine is a risk and not a certain death sentence, especially from Trump's perspective, and you look at it on a long term scale, this is a great way to MAGA from the sidelines, allowing the people to stand up for themselves and cut the umbilical cord of the swamp in preparation for the ultimate showdown in 2025 or hopefully sooner.

Have people/will people die due to Trump's endorsement of the vaccine? Yes. But it is people who trust the establishment, are dependant on the establishment, love the establishment or commit the sin of idolatry by doing everything Trump says. It is sad, especially for teenagers and college students. The death rate is alarming and certainly more than covid. But it is far less than the amount and quality of people who are ultimately going to be or would have been killed by globalism by now. Just think about if they get away with this how many more people will get deliberately killed in hospitals for money or organ harvesting.

He is using malicious compliance to wake the people up and get the swamp to destroy itself. It's working, but we need to focus on ultimate victory whether that is through pushing voter integrity, refusing to capitulate, and being prepared to defend ourselves. Even if it turns out Trump is a plant, which is a slim possibility, we are still winning if we keep it up.

referencevariable 10 points ago +10 / -0

The purpose of the vaccine is to make the digital vaccine passport a necessity.

The purpose of the passport is to implement the digital dollar.

The purpose of the digital dollar is to control supply and demand side economics by programming the currency.

Once this is in place nothing else matters: deficits, passing laws, taxes, voting - all completely irrelevant. It's central control the soviets never could have achieved in their wildest dreams.

Unsilent 10 points ago +10 / -0

Funny how all the countries seemed to come out with a vaccine at the same time…

Xanisor 9 points ago +9 / -0

Funny how patents for the vaxx were already there long before Trump started Operation Warpspeed.

Qwikphaze 9 points ago +11 / -2

Stop with this make believe bullshit! Instead of just out right destroying the narrative of a pandemic, he tried to manipulate it into a winning situation. However there was no winning situation. Instead of being brave enough to deny the narrative of a pandemic, he fell into the scam.

Observe95 3 points ago +3 / -0

So how was Trump supposed to destroy the narrative of a pandemic? Did you not see all those world leaders wearing masks? Even Putin was spotted with one.

Trump was one of very few world leaders who did not have a mask on all the time.

Have people completely forgotten what happened in 2020? If the people on this board are so fast to forget then what do you think the other side is going to do when writing about the past year? We are supposed to be the historians that make sure the true events of 2020 are told but it seems people are so mad at what is happening they are even blaming Trump for Biden's actions.


Trump is responsible for the fast creation of the vaccines but he is not responsible for Biden and his administration forcing you to take them.

He is not responsible for your failure to contact your representatives and demand they fight back against the mandates. If all the people that complained showed up and protested outside the governors' mansions, state AGs' offices, local legislatures' offices, do you honestly think Biden would be so emboldened?


Nah, people will not do it but complain and blame Trump who is not even in power for Biden's actions. Acting like he can magically make Biden do whatever he wants.


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Observe95 2 points ago +2 / -0

It is amazing to watch history get rewritten right infront of us. The gaslighting is strong here. We have to pretend that what we experienced and saw happen last year did not happen just because some people have short memories. All context is gone.

Qwikphaze 0 points ago +1 / -1

Trump at rally, “they aren’t going to take your freedoms...” crowd boos! He was pushing the vaxx just recently. He’s not perfect, stop treating him like he is. This was a huge black mark on his presidency. Falling into the trap and playing games instead of going straight for the jugular.

Observe95 1 point ago +1 / -0

I am not treating him like he is perfect. Read enough of my comments and you will see that I do point out his failings.

I just do not think it is fair for him to be blamed for the things others are doing.

I am giving context to things that happened last year that some here seem to have forgotten.

How is he pushing for people to take vaccines the same as the Biden administration mandating they should be taken?

How was he supposed to go straight for the jugular during the pandemic? COVID is real.

24601 8 points ago +8 / -0

50-50 ...

Trump was duped by Big Pharma... Fauci controls Big Pharma, or maybe the other way around, it's unclear which...

The mRNA injection was always going to be rolled out anyway.

However, the flip flopping within a matter of weeks in early 2021 opened a lot of normies eyes to the reality. So, you've got that part right.

But... I don't think the poison shot was Trump playing 3D chess.

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Observe95 2 points ago +2 / -0

You would still be dealing with this hysteria even without Operation Warp Speed.

More lock downs, more unconstitutional power grabs.

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Xanisor 8 points ago +8 / -0

So that's why Trump pushed the vaccine even after the coup and said not a word against vaccine mandates. BULLSHIT!

flyover_deplorable 7 points ago +8 / -1

Great take but I feel it is just the opposite. This "vaccine" will be used against him in the future. "See, Orange Man pushed this vaccine and now it's because of him that you are all dying!! REEEEE!!"

Monsterfan -1 points ago +2 / -3

This is exactly what is going to happen. Sadly the President has ALREADY lost 2024. We need to move on and find a stronger leader.

VeilOfReality 7 points ago +8 / -1

Oh hey great awakening is leaking. Takes mental gymnastics rivaling that of the most ardent science worshipper to see this as a big plan by Trump when he continues to talk about how great the vaccines are at every opportunity regardless of whether he's been prompted. He even walked back his claim that boosters are money grabs. But certainly that's part of the plan as well because Trump speaks to us in coded messages and is really suggesting we DON'T get the vaccine whenever he directly says we should get the vaccine.

At BEST Trump is unaware of what's really going on. Which would make him a fool.

strawman7 7 points ago +13 / -6

Trump was a pawn

LibertyPrimeWasRight 7 points ago +8 / -1

Trump may or may not have forced them to accelerate in such a way that their plan is harmed, yes, but in this case it’s clearly unintentional. He obviously supports the vaccines, because he keeps recommending them. And if he’s actually pushing something dangerous for political reasons, that’s disgusting.

He’s smart, but he’s human. He can make mistakes. His approach to the vaccine is one. Your weird defense of him as maybe having some secret genius plan to disrupt the globalists by endorsing and pushing a dangerous poison would, ironically, make him far more monstrous than the mistake you’re defending him from ever could.

tentonbudgie 6 points ago +7 / -1

That's some serious fan fiction. That means he'd be using us as human pawns.

redgreenyellowblu 4 points ago +4 / -0

I was thinking the same thing. "I'm going to show the world how they are about to enslave you by letting them enslave you."

CanadianFren 1 point ago +1 / -0

4D chess lol

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MondayCoupleIsDead 1 point ago +2 / -1

He didn't betray shit. You think ANY of this would be going on now if he were still in charge? Blame Cornholio for this because he owns all of this.

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MondayCoupleIsDead 1 point ago +1 / -0

Trump signed operation warp speed - What should he have done? I know it was far from ideal but we had a lot of people dying and if he didn't allow it the media would have made it even worse for him. You're holding him responsible for what the current illegitimate administration is doing even though it's their fault, not Trump's. If you believe he would be handling things like Cornholio is then you're fucking retarded or a god damn liar.

Never fired Fauxi - Should have but public perception during a fucking campaign would've been a disaster and you know it.

Never locked up Hillary - On what specific charge? We know she's dirty but how did you expect him to actually "lock her up"? Use your fucking head, but again with everything going on during his administration they would have roasted him alive for going after a political opponent. Even that witch.

Hasn't done shit for January 6th people - AGAIN, he was being impeached at the time so WTF do you actually think he could've done? By the time he could've done anything he was out of office.

You sound like a child who's stamping your feet that every thing you wanted wasn't given to you. Sorry asshole, but everything isn't that easy to do, especially with the endless bombardment he was constantly taking.

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FlatEarth2020 6 points ago +6 / -0

I think you are spot on with this analysis, and I’ve been saying as much for a while now. I think the globo-homo plan was to start locking us down etc under Killary. 8 years of her to finish what 8 years of Obama started. Lockdowns for years with promises of vaccines we could take for a bit of “freedom” in return, as long as we comply.

Trump rolling the shots out fast produced a Guyana situation where a few drank the Kool-Aid before Jim Jones finishe his speech. It will not all be clean. We’re all going to lose people. Hold fast and resist.

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Hunter4467 1 point ago +16 / -15

See this is why I think this site is controlled ops.

SHILL_DETECTOR 7 points ago +8 / -1

Trump signed an EO to fast track flu vaccines WELL BEFORE THE PANDEMIC

this only helped the criminals

Comntrinchief 5 points ago +7 / -2

You must have taken the death jab because you are replying to yourself.

Unsilent 5 points ago +8 / -3

Why did you just answer yourself? How many accounts do you have, shill?

MolochHunter 4 points ago +5 / -1

you forgot to log into your sock puppet account, glowfag

Hunter4467 0 points ago +2 / -2

99th percentile on the disagreeable scale. I'd be screened out immediately 🙏

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Hunter4467 0 points ago +5 / -5

You don't have to know you're controlled opposition. As has been said before, mods gave all data on this site to FBI after Jan 6. This created a chilling effect on them.

Anything real pokes through and they'll get the screws. Sticky all the retarded boomers playing 4d Trump chess, definitely don't sticky anything about DWAC, ignore all real nationalists (Moldbug, BAP, Frogtwitter)

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Ep1ctetus 6 points ago +6 / -0

Children don’t have a 99% chance of surviving covid.

They have a 99.99999% chance.

1 in 10,000,000

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okboomer59 5 points ago +5 / -0

Everything that is going on with our government is evil and twisted in ways that will be written about in history books and taught for many generations to come.

If we win.

If we let them win, everything will be memory-holed.

We must win.

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MAGAsJustBegun 4 points ago +4 / -0

I actually agree with this completely. I feel like the vaccine has been used as justification to her back to "normal".

easedel 4 points ago +4 / -0

He didn't exactly rush the vaccine. He put in a rush to find SOMETHING ( as in products already on the market ) that would help.

This is when the pharm and whoever else was behind this, pushed out the never used mrna while pretty much ignoring everything that was already out there.

The day he was ELECTED was the knot being tied tho, not the whole "vaccine" thing. He was showing how to be an actual independent country again, how to run the country. A "reality tv guy" doing what politicians were failing to do decades on decades.

He exposed them

Nasty_Savage 4 points ago +4 / -0

Killing your own citizens is a terrible plan. A better plan would have been to invert Jade Helm and take out the Dem controlled areas and swat team the globalists. The ashes and suffering of the Biden admin and the destruction of our economy will be almost impossible to survive, especially in the North if the power goes out during the winter.

No, Trump would not do this, and if he did…it will backfire when the dust settles. He pushed for the vaccine, rushed it. They may have snookered him, but he will ultimately be on the hook for it, even if just by perception. When things started getting sideways, he needed to distance himself. But he didn’t. As people rise up with the big ‘fuck off’ to mandates, he needs to seize the moment.

I loved the Trump presidency, but if your outline has any truth to it, its a bad look. Many people who were MAGA lost their families to this vax. I can only hope that the military walk offs for the mandate is a rope-a-dope for the Chicoms, because we will be vulnerable.

Oppenheimer_DOW 4 points ago +4 / -0

The vaxx is required for the global ID system they want in place right as the old financial system completely collapses to be replaced by a centrally controlled digital financial system. Go look up ID2020.org. then go look up the Carbon Credit card that is supposed to come out next year. Your ability to travel beyond your "travel zone" will be severely reduced, your access to the internet will be severely monitored and policed, most likely they will tell you what job you do, your finances will be severely monitored and policed. You will get monthly carbon credits that will expire if not used so you can't save anything. People like Bill Gates who now owns the most land in America will get paid for the land to sit, not producing anything, as a carbon sink. As this goes on people will be dropping off due to the vaxx or any other bug they release. Their property will most likely be taken instead of passed on. Remember by 2030 "we will own nothing and be happy".

Trump didn't stop any of this and I don't believe he was ever able to. He'd be dead if he did anything to seriously stop what's happening. He did remove the US from the TPP and the Paris Accord as well as pump the real economy so I'm not saying he's one of them. Just saying there are too many of them and they've planned this out too well for too long. They've been planning this for over half a century that I can tell. If Trump actually did something to truly derail the plan the Rockefellers would have had him assassinated because the Rockefeller Foundation and family is at the top of this in America.

glowingstrawberry 4 points ago +5 / -1

its q-level wishful theorizing to me. id much rather be fighting a lockdown that vaccine mandates. because everyone would unite against a lockdown.

AmazinKrackin2 4 points ago +4 / -0

Good post pede. Don't give away your children, they are desperate.

Ifyouonlyknew 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think it’s far more likely that Trump expedited the vaccine because he’s not part of the globalist agenda and didn’t know this was planned.

You’re the President of the United States. You’re putting out fires all of the time and your time and attention to any particular fire is limited. A novel virus breaks out in China and it appears to be spreading quickly. The solution? Expedite a vaccine or find protection against it and move on to the next issue.

The thing I still find odd is how Democrats were completely against the vaccine under Trump but completely for it under Biden. A change in leadership doesn’t really explain the change in support. I suspect changes were made to the vaccine at some point that would support their agenda. I don’t buy that “Democrats just didn’t like Trump” as a reason.

HorribleDeplorable 3 points ago +5 / -2

Why is this bullshit stickied?

one_cool 3 points ago +3 / -0

They could not let on they developed the mRNA tech sinc the 1990s and created it concurrently with their creation of covid-19. If they pop out their vaccine in a month for a "novel" virus just about anybody would say what the fuck. Because of trump accelerating things they had to make mrna look like a medical miracle and suppress all the vaxx deaths.

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MaBaker 2 points ago +2 / -0

Or without a vaccine, the whole society would have gone through covid in 4-5 waves and any coercion would be baseless because of the wast majority of already immune citizens. This way Trump maybe played into their hands completely. Without a republican president in the development of the vaccine it would look like a complete democrat conspiracy.

Jimmyjetfuel 2 points ago +4 / -2

The major flaw in this theory is that if they slow rolled the clot shots, there would have been more time to see the adverse reactions.

NZbacon 2 points ago +2 / -0

No. Because a slow roll out meant the side effects could be blamed on the coof.

Pushing a massive part of the population means it's an obvious correlation.

Captain-D 2 points ago +3 / -1

These are dark times.

Counterforce1 2 points ago +6 / -4

GREAT explainer on why Trump has played the vaccine the way he has.

Remember that half the people here STILL aren't ready......