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posted ago by CaptainHempbeard ago by CaptainHempbeard +3929 / -9

They scared.

They don't like it when the poor's do a capitalism.

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MAGA1775 285 points ago +289 / -4

This is why I stopped trading stocks after doing it for 10 years....everything is rigged now. I got burned badly and lost $100k from this type of bullshit. They hate when the common people make money.

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thelastlast 162 points ago +162 / -0

everything is MORE rigged now

I believe the market was always rigged to an extent, I just dont know why they're getting so blatant about it now (OH WAIT MAYBE BECAUSE WHEN THE WORLDWIDE MARKET CRASHING DERIVATIVE SCAM WAS DISCOVERED IN THE 2000s NOT ONLY WAS NO ONE PUNISHED THEY WERE PAID OFF WITH TAXPAYER MONEY HOLY SHIT WHY WOUlD THEY KEEP SCAMMING ITS A FUCKING MYSTERY)

sorry for the parenthetical. life is...how do you say...a frustration. apropos of nothing, can anyone here think of a punishment that would have stopped the scammers from ever trying it again? these are the things we need to be brainstorming right now, I just get the feeling...

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Tyrone_biggums 285 points ago +287 / -2

The Federal Reserve system itself is a giant scam. We don’t advance once centimeter without abolishing it.

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BlackPilled4Decades 81 points ago +82 / -1

This site is over the target. Lefties are patrolling it, trying to have rational arguments. It's easy to spot them. Lefties struggle with logic, and struggle with nuance. If it's not spelled out word for word they don't get it. They might just be AI bots I guess.

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MAGA1775 48 points ago +48 / -0

We also have GOP establishment #NeverTrump trolls on here too, a combination of both. I've been noticing more of them than ever.

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JackLemon 10 points ago +10 / -0

They are here by the scores no doubt funded in part by our donations to the RNC.

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HerrnMalor 8 points ago +8 / -0

I love those accounts that are 15 days old. /s

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PRMan99 11 points ago +11 / -0

Hard to tell a lefty from an AI bot. They are both just following their programming.

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CaptainButthurt 10 points ago +10 / -0

Theres good reason the NPC meme fits them so aptly.

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JackLemon 9 points ago +10 / -1

True. But for every leftist there's at least one ChiCom Mc shill trying to undermine Trump and his agenda and promote the traitorous Republican wing of the uni-party while gaslighting us that they're on our side. They are easy to spot too, especially if they avoid admitting that there was massive and undeniable election fraud or the fact that the election was stolen. You can also spot them if they reveal they're fans of the NeverTrump grifter Cuck Carlson.

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Sticky 4 points ago +4 / -0

That's fine. Their arguments never stand up to questions.

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FAhayek 9 points ago +9 / -0

I hope Mel Gibson's new movie about the banks covers the Fed, IMF, the "families", etc. Like "The Patriot" but modern.

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SaulGoodman 4 points ago +4 / -0

What movie is this? Seems like banks could be a touchy subject for Mel Gibson.

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Pickinpox 1 point ago +1 / -0

Co staring Alec "Trigger happy" Baldwin, so he'd better watch out

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debtfuelsthem 8 points ago +8 / -0

found the banker getting those phat dividends

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deplorablepepe4 2 points ago +2 / -0

maybe they prefer freedom units, not commie measurements.

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FetAnka 7 points ago +7 / -0

To be fair, metric is used everywhere outside of the US and UK. Back in the days when communism was first invented and had an iron grip on Russia and 15 other states, 3 strong metric nations abandoned the federal reserve system and took up the fight against communism. America sided with the commies and took out these 3 nations, thereby allowing communism to take over half of Europe and the 15 nations it already held.

So don't call imperial "freedom units", the only freedom imperial has ever provided is to encourage Americans to buy American, which is great. But for the rest of the world it only brought misery in shape of communism.

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AndrewLB 5 points ago +5 / -0

We sided with Great Britain and it was Stalin who joined our side after Hitler turned on him and invaded. It was a smart move letting hundreds of thousands of Russians die while we built up our military prior to D-Day. Japan and Germany had already killed Americans as early as 1937 fyi.

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MAGAMAN4EVA 2 points ago +2 / -0

That guy had to have had a stroke right before clicking or it was a cat.

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BlmAnimalFarmFodder 29 points ago +29 / -0

The federal reserve is NOT part of the federal government. It is a privately owned nationalized bank that creates money at an inflated rate and sells it to us at high interest. That practice is called debt based usury, (lending money at unreasonably high rates of interest) and was illegal at one point in time because it creates servitude and a form of tax slavery. The early church viewd it as a sin and would not allow it.

Your income tax does NOT go to the federal government, it goes the the federal reserve. The family that started the central banks are THE wealthiest family alive today. I'm sure you've heard the name Rothschilds, they are the dynasty that controls our money supply. Our money system was supposed to be handled by congress, but instead we gave the power to an outside private entity that answers to no one and is never audited.

Simply put, The Fed is Fraud. Prior to 1913 our pay checks went into our pockets instead of the coffers of wealthy men. We have been slowly taken over by the unconstitutional federal reserve bank. They answer to no one but control the currency supply through debt based usury. Remove the bank and you remove all the ROT and decay that has eroded our constitution and convictions for the last 100 years. We are no longer a country guided by our constitution, but ruled by the bank that owns us.

DEBT = DEPENDENCY, DEPENDENCY = CONTROL

The very thing we fought against to start this country followed us here. Their debt based usury continues to enslaves us even today. In reference to the currency act of 1764 Benjamin Franklin wrote;

"The refusal of King George III to allow the colonies to operate an honest money system, which freed the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators was probably the prime cause of the revolution."

The founding fathers knew of the dangers of a privately owned nationalized bank with the ability to print and coin money to sell it to the people at an inflated rate. They viewed it as the single greatest enemy,

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies".... "The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs." -Thomas Jefferson

President Jackson knew the true enemy of free people and made his entire re-election campaign about defeating them and removing them. His campaign slogan was "Jackson and No Bank". He battled against the central bank and their 3 million dollar backed candidate.

"You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin!".. "You are a den of vipers and thieves. I have determined to rout you out, and by the Eternal, I will rout you out! If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution before morning"" -Andrew Jackson

He had to fire over 2,000 government officials (talk about deep state) to get his policies through. Survived Assassination attempts and multiple negative political campaigns run against him. He won and kicked them out of the US for over 70 years. He was able to completely pay off the national debt and set us free from the chains of the elite banking masters. He acknowledged this as his greatest accomplishment, "I killed the bank".

They lost to Jackson, but they learned alot from that temporary defeat. Woodrow Wilson was backed by them and let them back in with the federal reserve act in 1913 to which he later lamented.

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country."... "A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men"..... "We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world — no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men." -Woodrow Wilson

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Chopblock 6 points ago +6 / -0

This guy speaks truths, succinctly!

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russianbot4673 -2 points ago +2 / -4

except most if not all of those quotes seem to be fabrications

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Chopblock 3 points ago +3 / -0

They may be amalgamations or paraphrases rather than exact quotes, but they look pretty true. If they didn’t speak these words they certainly expressed their equivalents.

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DonttrustChina -3 points ago +2 / -5

No he doesn't. The Rothschild family doesn't own the federal reserve, that's total fake news. The Rothschilds haven't been relevant in close to a century, they've got like 1% of Elon Musk's net worth (at least, his net worth today, apparently he just hit 1/4 trillion).

They're certainly way way richer and more powerful than you or I, but a shadow of what they once were.

Edit: downvotes and not a single rebuttal. The sort of cowardice I expect on reddit. Come at me faggots.

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Billiebobb9 2 points ago +2 / -0

You’re just wrong. And ghey.

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julianReyes 4 points ago +4 / -0

Andrew Jackson is one of my favorite presidents of all time.

But normals hate him because "muh Trail of Tears in my Pearson American History books." He didn't even carry it out, he just said "lol Supreme Court stop it" and Martin Van Buren actually did that shit, hence why nobody talks about him.

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russianbot4673 1 point ago +2 / -1

as i was reading your post, most of those quotes made my 'possible if not probable bullshit quote' detector go off.

i haven't searched them all up, but that last one by wilson i did. it does appear on a lot of websites, but any of them that dig into the source of it seem to be saying there is none. there is no verifiable source for that quote. instead it seems to be pieced together from different things he said which were actually in support for the fed, not against it.

and i imagine that is the case because why the fuck would woodrow wilson regret anything? the guy was a scumfuck, one of the first truly horrible modern presidents that set us on a path of ruination. but he didn't do it by accident. he laid down the groundwork for FDR. he openly criticized and undermined the constitution. he was intentionally trying to reshape our government. he was that era's obama.

i couldn't find a source for the Jackson quote about revolution either, just a ton of sites with it on there. if nobody seems to know the source of a quote, i just assume it's bullshit.

it seems, especially whenever someone is quoting an early president, there's something like a 99% chance the quote is bullshit. especially if the quote is to support some kind of argument, either way.

i'm not saying i support the fed but i absolutely do not support using bullshit quotes to try to accomplish anything, either.

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Hafez 3 points ago +3 / -0

Jackson was without doubt an anti-federalist and probably the most MAGA president we’ve ever had.

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russianbot4673 1 point ago +1 / -0

maybe but did he say the quote? probably not

his being 'anti-federalist' and in your opinion 'the most maga' does not mean you can just attribute quotes to him he may not have said

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BlmAnimalFarmFodder 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm glad you chose to look into the quotes because more eyes on the topic will help refine the information! This comment I made was a compilation of weeks worth of digging and documentaries I watched. Old quotes prove to be difficult to source. I remember looking into each of them at the time and finding multiple sites that referenced them. I agree that Woodrow Wilson was and always will be a giant POS.

I decided to look closer into the Woodrow Wilson quote and it appears to be 2 separate quotes from his book "The New Freedom" published in 1913. It does appear that somewhere along the way the statement, "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country." was added to the 2 quotes. He may have said them, but to what context or time frame, I couldn't source.

chapter 8 called “Monopoly, or Opportunity”:

However it has come about, it is more important still that the control of credit also has become dangerously centralized. It is the mere truth to say that the financial resources of the country are not at the command of those who do not submit to the direction and domination of small groups of capitalists who wish to keep the economic development of the country under their own eye and guidance. The great monopoly in this country is the monopoly of big credits. So long as that exists, our old variety and freedom and individual energy of development are out of the question. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men who, even if their action be honest and intended for the public interest, are necessarily concentrated upon the great undertakings in which their own money is involved and who necessarily, by very reason of their own limitations, chill and check and destroy genuine economic freedom. This is the greatest question of all, and to this statesmen must address themselves with an earnest determination to serve the long future and the true liberties of men."

And here's the second from chapter 9, called “Benevolence, or Justice?”

We are at the parting of the ways. We have, not one or two or three, but many, established and formidable monopolies in the United States. We have, not one or two, but many, fields of endeavor into which it is difficult, if not impossible, for the independent man to enter. We have restricted credit, we have restricted opportunity, we have controlled development, and we have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated, governments in the civilized world—no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.

We can at least prove that he did in fact say the two statements in a book he published during the same time frame as the establishment of the federal reserve.

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russianbot4673 1 point ago +1 / -0

if i see a presidential quote and it's all over a ton of websites during a search, but i can't see anyone telling me what book or letter or anything is it from, i assume it's fake. because on all of the internets someone should have to know what it's from, otherwise how did the quote itself make it TO the internet?

and yeah it looks like the wilson quote was basically a remix of a few things he said, but applied to a new context, which to me honestly seems a bit contrary to what he was all about. and even that quote there of him complaining about power being consolidated in the hands of a few elites, probably his only real problem with that was that he wasn't in that particular power circle himself. or he just said that kind of stuff to look like a good guy and help further his political career.

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russianbot4673 0 points ago +1 / -1

even the jefferson quote seems to be either fabricated or heavily reworded from something he actually did say. what is it with presidential quotes just being made up and everyone spreading them with no thought to that?

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Friendly_B 8 points ago +8 / -0

The one major action I wanted to see from Trump.

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Cozette 1 point ago +1 / -0

We will advance many, many, many centimetres FRIST, dear impatient and strategically naive one. First things first. One centimere at a time. Outlying areas are captured before taking on major fortified enemy strongholds.

Bottom line, Trump knows and unlike academic quirk Ron Paul, Trump has the personality and skill set to succeed.

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Flavius 0 points ago +1 / -1

Wow what a tough guy you are. You name the institution but not the tribe. Fucking pussy. You won't get anywhere if you can't face the enemy.

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zooty 38 points ago +38 / -0

Privatised gains, socialized losses.

Holding people personally responsible is what was needed.

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MAGA1775 38 points ago +38 / -0

Its certainly blatant and in-your-face right now.

I was mostly a technical trader (charts, etc) and did really well. A few years ago technical analysis stopped mattering completely. Charts and movement will defy all logic. And forget about fundamentals. And now this type of manipulation is common (like halting DWAC or halting whenever there is the slightest volatility or upward/downward movement). Still possible to make money but now it feels more like a casino, just a total gamble. Which makes consistent profits much more unlikely.

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malkontent2024 23 points ago +25 / -2

Well bob, when you can print money actual money markets dont mean a whole lot.

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Mattdaking 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah I started trading at 18 years old in October 2019 started off pretty well I loved playing stocks after earnings and still do, but when 2020 came I just stopped. Should’ve bought when the market bottomed though

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c89631147e 24 points ago +24 / -0

I believe the market was always rigged to an extent, I just dont know why they're getting so blatant about it now.

Because the peasants didn’t have direct access to the markets like they do today.

Before you had to go through a brokerage which disincentivized the peasants from individuals (peasants) trading from trading individual stocks.

Apps like Robinhood flipped that model on its head. Giving the peasants direct access.

This challenged Wall Street’s “gatekeeping” and more importantly their revenue model.

Instead of forcing people into funds, where they get a % cut no matter what, the peasants now how the tools to bypass them, buy whatever they want, impact the markets, and go direct.

Can’t have that.

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Mattdaking 11 points ago +11 / -0

Summed that up perfectly. Too bad robinhood cucked out when GameStop happened

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Macho_MaamV2 3 points ago +3 / -0

Computershare is the way

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Mattdaking 1 point ago +1 / -0

copmutershare?

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DWAC 6 points ago +7 / -1

Riggeder

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kernel 17 points ago +25 / -8

that's why you want REAL crypto - OWN YOUR KEYS.

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rossiFan 32 points ago +38 / -6

The problem with crypto is that it requires computing and connectivity infrastructure to function. If/when the shit hits the fan, infrastructure will be the first to go. Data centers, hubs, backbone, power will be the first to go.

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MobileDev4Trump 30 points ago +32 / -2

The internet was designed for command and control during a nuclear war. Crypto networks are more resilient than you think and if the infrastructure goes away it's basically a civilization ending event so anything other than prepping is gonna yield the same results.

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rossiFan 38 points ago +38 / -0

I agree. The only currency in that scenario will be food, fuel and ammunition.

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Femprep 19 points ago +19 / -0

And liquor. Absolutely people would still trade alcohol, unless you’d consider that food.

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rossiFan 16 points ago +16 / -0

I think you're right, because they didn't close liquor stores during the SCAMdemic. Just churches and schools.

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NinjaPlease 5 points ago +5 / -0

If you have ammo , that’s sorta all you need ……..

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StolenElectionsKill 3 points ago +3 / -0

Don't forget weed. That's probably as large a market as alcohol now, maybe larger.

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frankenbox 1 point ago +1 / -0

Dont forget porn. It isnt my thing, but alcohol and porn will be like currency to many.

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JohnBarronGalt 4 points ago +7 / -3

and silver.

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OneBigMaga 7 points ago +7 / -0

Silver would be useless in a shtf situation.

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FetAnka 3 points ago +4 / -1

There won't be any "currency" until everyone with the "burn, loot, murder" mentality has starved to death and the few remaining survivors all agree to rebuild some sort of functional society where goods and services are exchanged. And once that happens bartering will work just fine.

It's gonna take generations of degeneracy and communist propaganda before people accept some sort of federal reserve scam currency again.

If preppers do have function electronic devices at that point, crypto might actually be useful as money since it's something that cannot be stolen simply by killing the wallet owner.

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MobileDev4Trump 8 points ago +10 / -2

Crypto is about hedging against inflation. If you just put your money in a savings account your losing 20-30% a year because assets are going up by that much. So assets like stock, realestate, and crypto are just ways of not losing wealth because the Fed is printing money out of thin air. To he biggest threat to crypto is the Government adopting commodity backed Sound money which isn't gonna happen anytime soon.

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Kraotic 12 points ago +13 / -1

Civilization doesn't require electricity to function. The United States was founded without it, it isn't the backbone of civilization.

It is the backbone of anything that exists entirely in digital form. I can't eat something digital, I can't build shelter out of it, I can't hunt with it, it can go from tremendous value to absolutely worthless instantly.

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Hafez 2 points ago +2 / -0

Which is why it’s unlikely we will see a “total collapse” like some people are suggesting. The powers that be would stand to lose too much if that ever happened and they’ll do what they can to prevent a Mad Max scenario.

Of course anything is possible but I’d say a zombie apocalypse is definitely still a worst-case scenario.

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MobileDev4Trump 4 points ago +4 / -0

I think our future looks like China if Big Government and Big Tech continue to eat the world. My rebellion is to promote local Government, Decentralized technology, and to detach myself from the system as much as possible.

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Hafez 2 points ago +2 / -0

Like a giant Chinese shopping mall.

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Pepe_Kekmaster 9 points ago +10 / -1

and that's why you diversify in to solids like gold, platinum, silver.

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NinjaPlease 7 points ago +7 / -0

Physical metals …..

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AndrewLB 3 points ago +3 / -0

Paper metals pretty much destroyed the safety of physical metals. All thanks to Obama. Just look at gold this past year. With all this inflation its dropped from $1900 to $1790. It's just like when Obama got involved as gold was skyrocketing while he was in office and they began "unprecedented actions" which allowed him to keep the government from shutting down AND it killed the price of gold. What could those actions have been? I bet he dumped the nations gold reserves.

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kernel 8 points ago +9 / -1

Sure, but you still keep your crypto and you can use it later when the infrastructure eventually comes back in (or if don't get a total SHTF but a half-ass one).

For SHTF you need only physical stuff (I would still keep some crypto around just in case we get a half-ass SHTF and crypto become THE money as it is easiest to use and decenteralized).

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rossiFan 7 points ago +7 / -0

Totally agree. When things come back, it will be the only viable currency. There's a reason China is banning all crypto.

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Kraotic 8 points ago +9 / -1

Yeah people won't use gold like they have for nearly all of humanities existence. They'll use this thing that requires electricity, the internet, and various electronic devices.

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quantum_wetware 3 points ago +3 / -0

crypto works without a central network - its designed to be decentralized (devs tested sending bitcoin to each other over radio waves)

either way, with the collapse you're talking about none of it will matter anyway we'll probably be back to a trade and barter system in that scenario

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quantum_wetware 2 points ago +2 / -0

actually buy gold directly with crypto right now

yes, pretty sure you can - but not bullion

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Forgototherpassword 1 point ago +2 / -1

Then China will really own it all. Until their shit collapses too

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mrredneck 4 points ago +4 / -0

Own you own keys, Cash, gold, silver , ammo, whiskey, and be self reliant for basic food supplies and keep the Good word close by.

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BunkerHill 1 point ago +1 / -0

For a total no nothing...what is REAL crypto and is it possible? Is it possible for the general public?

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kernel 0 points ago +1 / -1

bitcoin

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spezpedobestfriend 7 points ago +7 / -0

Mine crypto. Set up operations overseas in countries not friendly to the US. If the US bans crypto, become and expat and tell them to suck it.

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x79q3pb 8 points ago +8 / -0

Word for anyone reading this comment and being possibly mislead: it's really hard to get into another country - really damn hard. One does not "just relocate" as seems to be the case in our beloved United States.

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texas4ever 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's a lot easier if you have money. Generally only liberal Western countries encourage poor, uneducated people to move in. If you are loaded it's not difficult, most countries want people to bring lots of cash and skill.

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spezpedobestfriend 1 point ago +3 / -2

El Salvador Citizenship = Own 3 Bitcoin.

Canadian Citizenship = Live in Canada 3 years, paid your taxes, pass a citizenship and language test.

Chile Citizenship = Live the in Chile for 5 years.

It is similar in most other countries, you have to have lived there for a number of years, you can get a residency passport to do so. Setting up a bitcoin mining operation in a number of countries is encouraged due to cheap energy and they want the tax money.

It is not that hard to set up citizenship elsewhere, it requires money and time to go through the paperwork. The US is one of the harder nations to become a citizen legally. Most other nations if you have a brain and money they will take you quickly.

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x79q3pb 3 points ago +3 / -0

Sure there's particular programs, golden passports etc, but they are not open for Joe Public to just expat themselves at will. I just wanted to highlight this point.

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spezpedobestfriend 0 points ago +1 / -1

Most countries will take skilled labor and investment. If you are running a small bitcoin mining operation they will happily take you as an example. If you have a college degree and speak the language, again they will happily take you. Where do you think a lot of those Chinese crypto organizations fled to? They ain't in China right now, and there is a lot of BTC that left the CCP's control via a boat out of CCP land.

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987321 8 points ago +8 / -0

unless you have some advantage like free electricity just buy it

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spezpedobestfriend 5 points ago +5 / -0

$10K investment = 90 Ths asics miner. Run it in a remote hosting site at 6 cents a wat, its paid for in under 12 months. Every month you make $900 after that.

At the rate BTC is going up, you are better hosting.

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hall1570 2 points ago +2 / -0

How do I learn about how to do this? I have free electricity.

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Wallypip3 2 points ago +2 / -0

How do you have free electricity?

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hall1570 4 points ago +4 / -0

Actually I have a massive set of solar panels. I haven't paid any money on electricity in over a year.

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FetAnka 1 point ago +2 / -1

Probably renting, where power is included in the rent. Common in some places apparently.

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spezpedobestfriend 1 point ago +1 / -0

You could start now if you have desktop pc that's 3 years or newer. Go to nicehash.com and download their miner. They'll spend your electricity and pay you in bitcoin. If you google nicehash calculator they will tell you how much you will make per day for GPU.

GPU mining is based on Ethereum (ETH) and ETH is slated to stop mining come June to October 2022. There are other coins you can mine as well, but not as profitable as ETH and its likely when ETH goes offline the other coins won't make as much in payout. Expect to make 25% of what you are making now after ETH bans mining.

Long term mining, BTC is the best to mine. If you have true free power, then look into ASIC mining. You could buy an Asics miner now for BTC from compass mining for just under $10K, they have them in stock part of the month, you have to check back.

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BewareOfThePug 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thank fuck maybe GPUs will go down in price.

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StolenElectionsKill 1 point ago +1 / -0

Dammit. I have no fucking idea what you are talking about.

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rightymighty 5 points ago +5 / -0

Same here, but mine was in trading FOREX. Lost 11K from manipulation by brokers. US Gov put in regs that make it very hard for the small investor.

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TrumpLandslide20201 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yep I lost 45K with their bullshit also but they can’t kill this one!

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QLARP 19 points ago +21 / -2

Good for pedes to see the "muh invisible hand of the market" is BS.

That's how uniparty got us to move factories to China.

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FuckChinaRaw 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not gonna say that it isn't all rigged.

But complaining about stock halts which happen when a stock increases or decreases by X% is stupid. It is an automatic circuit breaker that is universal.

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ComTruiseWasRight 8 points ago +8 / -0

If there's one thing riggers know it's how to control your money, but somehow, not their own.

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RegularAmerican 4 points ago +4 / -0

They're really good at it. They spend theirs on controlling us so they basically own us

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ComTruiseWasRight 3 points ago +3 / -0

They only like to think that. They know they're one actual insurrection away from exile. Whether/when we know that will determine how long they enjoy their fun and games.

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InTheArmsOfThePepe 7 points ago +7 / -0

Stupid riggers

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Atlantapede 3 points ago +3 / -0

riggers gonna rig

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NavyGuy 3 points ago +3 / -0

100% fucking rigged

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Pravda 144 points ago +156 / -12

Stop using their language. Capitalism is the ultimate savior in this. It’s their statism that’s corrupted.

The federal reserve is communism. The banks are subservient to these communists. The exchanges are subservient to the communist regulators. The corporations are neutered and made into useful idiots by way of the profits in this corruption.

Capitalism and free markets are our only hope.

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CaptainHempbeard [S] 31 points ago +33 / -2

Stop using their language.

Where am I using their language?

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Assassin47 31 points ago +31 / -0

I guess he's saying we don't have capitalism, where you said we're doing capitalism.

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CaptainHempbeard [S] 36 points ago +38 / -2

I agree that we don't have a truly open and free market... however this is still capitalism. Just gotta learn how to play the game. Play it better than them. After all, the populace can remain irrational longer than they can remain solvent.

They may have millions of dollars, but we have millions with dollars too.

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Assassin47 11 points ago +11 / -0

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4more 9 points ago +9 / -0

If half the people that voted for trump bought one share there would be no shares left to trade.

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Redpillmachine 4 points ago +4 / -0

Cant more stocks be issued or even a stick split

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BewareOfThePug 3 points ago +3 / -0

They can be split, but the same people holding, just get x2 shares to keep.

The company could issue more shares, but that risks angering shareholders... Don't know if they can block that.

Not an expert, just a GME ape who was worried about how the shorters could get out of their obligations.

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Mattdaking 2 points ago +2 / -0

I wonder how much has been bought I only got about 15 rn

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4more 2 points ago +2 / -0

It’s impossible to know. There are 28.76 million public shares. Today’s volume is 50 million.

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BewareOfThePug 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hey gamma squeeze if there are and leftards shorting it.

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Garchangel 5 points ago +5 / -0

Capitalism, competition, free open markets. We don’t have those. Therefore not capitalism. Maybe more capitalistic than others. Barriers for entry are stupid high all over. Regulatory capture in others. Practical monopolies in yet other places. But we’re capitalism. Ignore the non capitalism traits. Big tech is big gov with a panda mask. Multinationals write laws. We’ve an absolute f ton of problems no one wants to solve because money.

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citydwellertrumpfan 1 point ago +1 / -0

I recall reading an article by some HNW investor who said the US is the best country in the world as a consumer but the worst country as a producer due to all the regulations, captured agencies etc.

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dmt3rdi 4 points ago +4 / -0

If you want be obtuse you could say that everything is capitalist because that is just the laws of nature. Economic theory according to Adam Smith et al - it is true everywhere. Thus, Europe is capitalist. North Korea is capitalist. Venezuela is capitalist. USA is capitalist.

But if you want to have a useful discussion about what is going on, "Capitalism" is better defined as where you have liberty, free markets, and sound money. Which is NOT what has happened anywhere on earth, not even close, since 19th century America.

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Eu-is-socialist 3 points ago +5 / -2

Capitalism MY ass. This is capitalism as much as NAZISM was capitalism . There is no capitalism when one's good fortune or wealth is dependent on the actions of the government.

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DrBJTester 4 points ago +5 / -1

We are doing an extremely fucked up form of capitalism, the equivalent would be the 2020 elections that were "free" (stolen) .

Can you still make money in the screwed up system? yes you can, but it's a lot harder to make it and a lot easier for them to steal it.

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zooty 2 points ago +2 / -0

They don't want to stop you making money, they want to be sure they can skim off the top.

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Side_of_Beef_Chucker 10 points ago +11 / -1

Impressive length!

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malkontent2024 2 points ago +3 / -1

Thanks!

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zooty 3 points ago +3 / -0

Oh, for sure. But that doesn't stop them wanting to take if from you in other ways too.

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Eu-is-socialist 2 points ago +3 / -1

Sure you can make money in a screwed system. You just have to suck the dick of the system . But get this . IT'S THE SAME SHIT IN SOCIALISM. Suck the dick of the nomenclature and you get promoted AND GET TO MAKE MORE .

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DrBJTester 1 point ago +2 / -1

It's worse under Socialism/Communism because they take all your money first then if you give them enough oral pleasure they "give" you 15% back.

Of course you pay $47% taxes on that 15%.

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Eu-is-socialist 0 points ago +2 / -2

Well actually they don't take the money. It's just that the money is worthless since there is nothing to buy with it since sucking the nomenclature dick doesn't produce shit.

So don't worry will get there soon.

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DrBJTester 1 point ago +2 / -1

So you don't call "taking the money" by regressive taxation, inflationary spending and corruption; taking the money? Then use that as an argument?

That's critical dumbassery.

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ghost_of_aswartz 2 points ago +2 / -0

So how about Monopolism?

Or technotalitarianism

or faschionalism?

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dmt3rdi 1 point ago +1 / -0

They flipped the concept of capitalism and use that word to refer to the state-run economy/markets.

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Pravda 0 points ago +1 / -1

"when the poor's do a capitalism."

Capitalism.

Free markets are not the corrupt brainchild of hedge funds. It is not the corruption of meddling politicians. It is not the insider trading of thieves.

Free markets are your ability to take risk and compete. "Do a capitalism" frames this system pejoratively.

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CaptainHempbeard [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

You understand the phrase tongue in cheek, right?

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Pravda 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fair.

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Whitespace 4 points ago +7 / -3

Capitalism is the ultimate savior in this.

Oh good grief.

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Pravda 5 points ago +5 / -0

More accurately, free markets. As people have accurately pointed out, capitalism is a word thats invented by the marxists themselves. Free markets have delivered us from the dark ages. Free markets have democratized invention and ingenuity.

Free markets are the expression of our property rights. The ability to express property rights is the foundation of freedom. The ultimate property being your own mind and the ability to use it as you see fit.

To build on this, money is a store of value. That value is productive time. Central banks steal our productive time by diluting our store of wealth and redistributing it as it sees fit. Free markets have delivered us technology such as Bitcoin, which will be the ultimate hedge on this continued tyranny. Free markets generate real wealth as it invites the best to compete, instead of stealing from us to prop up noncompetitive zombie companies.

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Whitespace 3 points ago +3 / -0

Well said, and I think that makes a lot of sense.

I have a huge * on competition because competition gets rigged eventually - always as you see from elections. But as a reference point, I definitely agree. The government should be protecting human opportunities from the grasp of corporate oligarchy. They're doing the opposite. Their idea of "free markets" is neo-liberal betrayal of the national interests, and a compromise of real competition.

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Pravda 2 points ago +2 / -0

We may believe differently on this, but certainly having a government that is at least actively deterring private monopolies would be ideal to the collusion we see now.

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TheCandiru 2 points ago +2 / -0

"Capitalism" itself if their language, fren. That's Marxist slander right there. Use the Free Market if you want to be pedantic.

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CaptainHempbeard [S] 17 points ago +19 / -2

Central banking. It's one of the "planks of communism" - 5th to be exact.

Centralization of Credit in the Hands of the State, by Means of a National Bank with State Capital and an Exclusive Monopoly.

Source: https://www.conservativeusa.net/10planksofcommunism.htm

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KSMOconservative -10 points ago +6 / -16

I'm pretty tired of this tired attack on the banking system. Yes it has problems, no it's not perfect, but the state does not monopolize the extension of credit. At all.

Any chartered bank with assets can create money by issuing loans, so long as they maintain the reserve requirement. Any bank, big or small, can do this. This is how money is 'printed'. They don't need permission from 'the State'.

But I don't expect you to either learn or understand this fact, as the 'plank of communism' bit is just so much damn fun to throw around on 4chan.

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CaptainHempbeard [S] 13 points ago +16 / -3

The Federal Reserve controls interest rates and prints the money.

That is as central as it gets.

I don't expect you to get or understand that, since you're a shill for banks. Is the JIDF paying you for these posts?

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987321 9 points ago +10 / -1

lol I found the FED

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usdodsgssog 4 points ago +6 / -2

🤦‍♂️ Who's attacking the banking system? We're attacking the central bank. The one that's fucking up the banking system and fucking up all of our lives.

For those that don't understand what is happening, please, watch this video...

The Collapse of The American Dream Explained in Animation https://www.bitchute.com/video/m74JNHHFxrz8/

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Wallypip3 2 points ago +3 / -1

Newsflash, there is no reserve requirement and hasn't been one for years now.

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Eu-is-socialist 0 points ago +2 / -2

They don't need permission from 'the State'.

YOU ARE A MOTHERFUCKING MORON. They need permission from the state to EVEN FUCKING EXIST.

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decafllort 4 points ago +4 / -0

It's funny how the word means several different things. Marx said that communism is a stateless, classless, moneyless society. But as communist revolutions took over governments and those governments started centrally controlling their countries' economies, supposedly democratically but actually not, these governments called themselves communist because they were supposedly a middle step between capitalism and stateless, moneyless, actual real communism. So, communism became defined as government-controlled money and economy.

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mordhaus 5 points ago +5 / -0

What they claim is that they get stuck in 'the dictatorship of the proletariat.'

However, the dictatorship is the goal of those agitating these revolutions.

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Assassin47 2 points ago +2 / -0

Because "a stateless, classless, moneyless society" is pure fantasy, and anyone pushing a communist revolution besides the bottom-tier monkeys who want free gibs knows it's a fantasy.

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Pravda 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is central control of an economy. They use the power of monetary policy to choose winners and losers. They also, whether just mechanically or with intent, redistribute the wealth (purchasing power of all dollar holders) to select asset holders. They make poor people poorer and increasingly with politics in mind.

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Eu-is-socialist 1 point ago +2 / -1

QE.

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Pravda 1 point ago +1 / -0

Communism doesn't serve everyone equally. Its a command and control economy where favors are doled out to protect the state. Breadlines are only necessary to prevent riots against the state. You did, however, receive a $2k pittance last year, no?

That bribe served as a warrant to print 40% of the money supply in existence today alongside trillions in government spending. That $2k you received will be paid many times over with inflation. But again, these are all mechanisms to build and solidify the new state. It serves the same mechanism as a breadline. When we are all starving and can't afford bread, they'll give us that too.

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jubyeonin -120 points ago +18 / -138

That's funny because you used "capitalism" unironically and it's a communist phrase.

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War_Hamster 21 points ago +21 / -0

Thank you.

Free and fair markets absent monopolist or government interference is the economic system that Jefferson proposed. But the monopolists never let that develop.

What they call "capitalism" is really the British concept of Mercantilism, with a "free market" veneer.

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Pravda 3 points ago +3 / -0

You are very correct, whether this developed by intention or mechanically speaking.

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War_Hamster 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's an important question you're leading up to. Will we always have concentrations of wealth and power who skew the system?

How can we prevent those?

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Pravda 2 points ago +2 / -0

I've wrapped my mind around this all morning. Good. fucking. question!

I think its hard to split away the idea that so much wealth has been accumulated as a result of our government's corruption which has created considerably vast power discrepancies. For example, would Facebook be the force it was today if it were allowed to become such a monopoly or would Amazon without the sales tax moratorium on online purchases through the first half of its life? Not to mention government contracts and favorable legal treatment. Obviously not, right?

I think in a free market most of these power and wealth discrepancies balance each other out. The more I thought of this, the more that felt naivete. Rockefeller and Carnegie amassed more wealth than the current crop of bozos and there was no Central bank and much of the government overreach we fear today hadn't been implemented.

However, to your point wealth and power are preserved through violence. Violence is the principal purpose of any government. I tend to be much more worried about the state than any individual company for this reason, until they also have undue influence over the state.

Invariably, any individual with enough power or wealth could influence the corrupt minds of politicians. Hopefully this isn't just a vicious cycle humanity is doomed to repeat. If you limit the government so much, perhaps these billionaires usurp our own government and create their own systems of control that we can't effectively escape.

As I thought about this, maybe we make wealth impossible to steal, so the only arbitrary way to give your wealth to anyone (including the state) is by explicit consent. Remove the incentive to control our own wealth and power through the violence of the state. No amount of IRS, or local police, or jailtime, or executioner can take your wealth thereby removing most of the incentive to perform such debauchery. This way the only reason we fund systems is because we agree or want to participate in them.

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War_Hamster 1 point ago +1 / -0

Excellent answer, and you're going a similar direction to what I'm thinking.

Let's say we do reduce the Federal Gov't in size and put severe limits on its power again, and we have a free and fair market.

You're always going to have winners and some of them will eventually become the new Rothschilds; so rich you think you're divine. How do we stop concentrated generational wealth? We are ruled by a Plutocracy (rule by the wealthy) who own the government. How do we keep a new one from forming.

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decafllort 5 points ago +5 / -0

What? How is capitalism a communist phrase, and what do we say instead? To be clear, I am talking about the economic system where there is private property, free trade, competition, and few regulations.

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987321 1 point ago +4 / -3

free market liberalism. we're the real liberals they stole our word.

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decafllort 3 points ago +3 / -0

You're being downvoted but you're literally correct when referring to specifically the type of "conservative" that wants the government to get out of our personal lives. However, we still seem to have a great deal of social conservatives still in this movement who want traditional marriage and Christianity to be endorsed by the State, drugs to remain illegal, mention of God to remain in our government slogans, and for our schools to remain in government control and indoctrinate our kids with their particular views.

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jubyeonin -127 points ago +10 / -137

It was coined by communists. You should want a free market system. There are different versions, but you should always want a free market. Too many normies keep using their phrases and ideology and can't break free because of it.

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TheCandorist 2 points ago +2 / -0

So, a word used in 1850 is a communist word?

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Pravda 1 point ago +1 / -0

You are right. However, Capitalism is basic lexicon at this point though.

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Bax101 87 points ago +90 / -3

They want to avoid another GME moment.

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Grilledpepe 69 points ago +69 / -0

And them avoiding it is what creates it.

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Woefully_Inept 31 points ago +31 / -0

Streisand effect times infinity. There's no escaping this. lol

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Take_it_back 7 points ago +7 / -0

Buy the dip?

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trumpORbust 3 points ago +4 / -1

Buy hghi, sell low, repeat

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Liberty_or_Death 10 points ago +10 / -0

What is this word sell you speak of?

We only hodl here.

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BillDBlasiosBlackSon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Buy the pump.

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Capitalism_Fuck_Yeah -4 points ago +11 / -15

Cannot happen with this stock. It's a pump and dump. No Trump supporters should be buying it right now as they are trying to make you into bag holders.

It's going to come crashing down to normal valuations and new bag holders will be made.

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SCShivers 18 points ago +18 / -0

It might be a "Pump n Dump" for you but the majority of people here are holding bc they know as soon as DWAC turns into TMTG when they officially merge with Trump, it's gonna sky rocket again.

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dissapointedokie 5 points ago +8 / -3

Put everything you can scrape together in.

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iamherefortheluls 1 point ago +1 / -0

i've had several year old accounts on patriots tell me they value this stock at 40 to 50.

You realize that if the merger fails for any reason, this stock goes to 0? It might not even be Trump. The other company might decide to back out.

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SCShivers 1 point ago +1 / -0

I know thats a possibility. You think the company would be dumb enough to do that? Just think about how many shares they own

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Capitalism_Fuck_Yeah -4 points ago +8 / -12

It's going to collapse from current prices and you will be a bag holder for who knows how long. It may rise again but you won't bother selling them either so you will be a forever bag holder.

This is how these meme stocks work. Don't be a bag holder.

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BecauseISaidSo 15 points ago +15 / -0

This is how STOCK market works in general... Average person should not buy a stock they aren't prepared to hold for at least 5 years....

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Capitalism_Fuck_Yeah 2 points ago +6 / -4

Really this is an untested company and it might get banned from everywhere like GAB. It's also possible Soros buys it out and turns it to shit. Either way current pricing is absurd.

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MAGAzine1 1 point ago +1 / -0

It’s literally not the market cap is what you guys need to look at. It’s only 2-4 million dollars...

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Capitalism_Fuck_Yeah 0 points ago +1 / -1

Yeah ok handshake shill.

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SCShivers 12 points ago +12 / -0

Your calling it a "meme stock" bc that's what MSM is calling it... bc they're trying to make it seem like this is all coming from /r/WallStreeBets. Thats what the MSM wants you to believe. Out of ALL the main stream stock news institutions, there was only 1 that put in at the very end of their report that there's a chance that these gains came from his supporters and not WSB's. I'm sure WSB's has some action on it now ,but you better believe this all started from and has continued from his supporters. Not from the "Meme Stock" crowd.

Trump launches his own entertainment and technology company answering millions of conservatives prayers that felt like they were going to be muzzled by big tech at any moment. Zuckerberg & Dorsey were sitting at the Silicon Valley table. Trump walks up to the table, unzips his pants, and drops his 10,000,000 lb sack right in the middle of the table. But it's only a "meme stock"

Don't get me wrong... It won't be easy. It'll be super challenging. Silicon Valley owns everything. They own every bit of tech infrastructure. Patriots and Conservatives will not let this fail. In fact I think there's huge portions that are looking at this as like a political campaign contribution. So they don't even care about losing their money.

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Capitalism_Fuck_Yeah 0 points ago +1 / -1

I don't even know what the MSM is calling it because I don't watch it. I learned about it from WSB and it's totally a meme stock like AMD or Tesla. You don't really know how broad the term meme stock is.

When you buy shares you are not typically buying them from Trump you are buying them from other investors. Your not contributing anything.

You sound like a shill trying to mislead people or someone completely clueless about the stock market.

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Cyer6 2 points ago +2 / -0

It seems to be tanking. I'm glad some pedes got in and made some money on it, but it does seem some are getting left holding the bag.

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Capitalism_Fuck_Yeah 0 points ago +1 / -1

Really I'd they sold at the high they could rebuy when it's on discount and gold so much more.

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HeadHoncho 1 point ago +2 / -1

meme stocks

I wish we could start tagging people on here like you can with RES.

For instance, this language here is how you can tell this guy is a shill.

This is the MSM line on why Trumps stock is exploding.

Not because people are tired of censorship, or looking for an alternative to stifling, liberal, silicon valley tech. Not because Trump is the most loved President in modern history with 80 million fans. Not because Trump has run hundreds of successful businesses over the course of his lifetime and made billions of dollars doing it.

Nope. The line from MSM (and their shills) are this is all a "meme" like a 20 year old pager company, a shut down movie theater chain, or an 80s video game store dealing in used CD trade-ins.

If you want to see how hard they are pushing this, check this out

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=dwac+meme+stock&t=brave&iar=news&ia=news

If Trump can raise the money, hire good people, and bring a real competitor to market, there is no limit how much money they (and we) can make.

Unlike Gamestop, there is almost unlimited potential here and all the pieces in place to make it happen.

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BillDBlasiosBlackSon 2 points ago +2 / -0

Now hold on just a second. I own GME. The reason I bought is because it came out they were shorting more shares than actually exist. Called a naked short and it's illegal. They were caught with their pants down, and I bought in waiting for the mother of all short squeezes. I was under the impression when the time comes, they must buy back ecery share they sent out on loan, at any price. At a number going up to infinity. TMTG actually has less potential than infinity, and I still bought in. To support my President.

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HeadHoncho 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh, don't get me wrong. I think there was plenty of reason to buy GME, I just don't think believing in the legitimate future growth of Gamestop - the brand - was one of them.

And I don't think it's fair to compare Gamestop to a potential new Trump social media project.

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progun_prochoice 1 point ago +6 / -5

don't bother...all the people crying fraud about trading halts are obviously noobs who have no idea how the stock market works.

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Capitalism_Fuck_Yeah 0 points ago +5 / -5

Normally I don't bother but I am on patriots.win because I don't want our guys tricked.

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Cozette 0 points ago +1 / -1

How super duper kind of you. Please send Drumpf your info so "our guy" can being saved too, dear concerned tourist.

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Cozette -1 points ago +1 / -2

"NO Trump supporter sHoUlD". Shoulding AND being an absolutist too? Ambitious Karening.

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MajorClark 44 points ago +44 / -0

Well ya, they're scared! Nobody wants to have to move back to their parents basements. Seriously.

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NoMoreMao 41 points ago +54 / -13

Exchange rules have been in place forever. They didn't just make shit up for DWAC.

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War_Hamster 44 points ago +47 / -3

They are not always applied uniformly.

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Brucesky420 17 points ago +17 / -0

Correct, the friday morning halt lasted 3x the amount they normally halt for volatility.

That being said, these rules have been in place. They didn't pull them out of their ass but definitely be aware of how they apply them, it absolutely matters

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Vlad_The_Impaler 21 points ago +21 / -0

It appears there is some subjectivity involved.

https://www.sec.gov/fast-answers/answerstradinghalthtm.html

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ThatsDoable 13 points ago +16 / -3

Exactly. It was halted because a fuck load of people set a sell limit at 120. Once that triggered, it caused a sharp increase in volume all at once and halted the stock and made it plummet at the same time. It will get sky high. But these short sellers will have to fuck off first or this will continue.

This is not an unregulated market like Bitcoin.

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987321 6 points ago +6 / -0

bitcoin is manipulated now. it used to be peer-to-peer electronic cash as described by the white paper. it was attacked by banks through censorship, and was "upgraded" to become a store of value.

so instead of using it to pay invoices, payday, groceries, coffee, the banks want you to hold bitcoins as tulips or beanie babies. they want you to pay $1,000 tx fees or use their mastercard payment hub aka a bitcoin bank.

the price is heavily manipulated through tether and bitfinex. it's way over valued relative to other coins, because it abandoned its utility for payments. they want you holding bitcoin, routing through their bank controlled patented lightning hub, and spending your bitcoin from a chase bitcoin visa card, that never actually executes a peer to peer cash transaction on a blockchain with your private keys that you hold.

the original bitcoin p2p cash protocol lives on. the one that can handle payments for 9 billion people already with today's tech, and has by far the most brick and mortar use of any crypto. it's constantly attacked. censored on almost all crypto forums. I'll let you DYOR and find it.

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ed_shaw 3 points ago +3 / -0

In and out trading, facilitated by computers, serves no useful purpose. All it accomplishes is to drain invested capital and discourage the buy and hold investors, who are truly the life's blood of the system. When management sees the jigsaw pattern, simply issue more stock at a fair price. Day traders have turned the stock market into a gambling casino and have done more to degrade the industry than any other single thing.

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iamherefortheluls 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't think it was a specific 120 price point. I was trying to cash out this morning and set my sell limit order at 113. I had to step away from computer for ten minutes right as markets opened. Come back and trading is halted, my sell order went through at 120.90 per share. I didn't even know sell limit orders functioned like that.

I am now wondering if someone artificially made it halt by bidding way above market price to make it spike up fast enough to trigger the conditions. Because otherwise why would my shares sell for 7 dollars over asking price.

That, or I don't understand how limit orders work.

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BostonVoter 10 points ago +10 / -0

Its terrible people on Patriots.Win are speaking lies and Misinformation. They don't want to learn. They won't stop. We have morons inside PDW , acting ridiculous

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NeverTwitterer 0 points ago +4 / -4

Yeah a lot of people here with hearts in the right place but woefully misinformed on some things ):

The trading halts are not elites stealing your gains. They are there to protect you from the elites maniupulating markets and other bad actors.

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Rig4Red 5 points ago +5 / -0

They are there to protect elites manipulating markets. Ftfy

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Cozette 1 point ago +1 / -0

The eliTeS aRe dOinG tHiS tO pRoTeCt yOu! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Grilledpepe 1 point ago +3 / -2

It's for our own protection just like lock downs

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x79q3pb 38 points ago +39 / -1

How do we find out WHO is calling for the trading halts?

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CaptainHempbeard [S] 72 points ago +73 / -1

It's most likely the SEC calling the shots to the exchanges. Either way this is criminal. Who cares if the stocks are volatile? Isn't that the point of the market anyway?

They just don't want us making money and skyrocketing certain stocks.

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becky21k1 45 points ago +45 / -0

It's only okay to be volatile in their favor

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AlphaNathan 6 points ago +6 / -0

House always wins.

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Vlad_The_Impaler 12 points ago +12 / -0

Is there a consistent rule that the SEC follows, or do they just willy nilly halt stocks of their choosing?

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War_Hamster 26 points ago +27 / -1

It's not the SEC, it's the exchanges that call the halts. They do have rules that they follow the vast majority of the time. Just not this time, it appears.

Exchanges have to provide "orderly markets", which they do for the most part. But they also manipulate, and in this case, apparently for political reasons.

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RegularAmerican 3 points ago +3 / -0

I will take your word for it since you're the wall street guy here

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War_Hamster 2 points ago +2 / -0

To clarify, I haven't looked into this morning's halts, so I'm going by what has been reported to me by others. But they do have rules which are occasionally broken. I just can't be certain that's what happened here.

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Xuvial 2 points ago +2 / -0

Just not this time, it appears.

They ignored their own rules/processes specifically just for this? Isn't that against the law, can anyone take them to court for it?

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War_Hamster 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ask the GME Apes.

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MastaJoda 1 point ago +1 / -0

😂🤣😂🤣 against the law...whew, that was a good one!

Let me know when anyone of our enemies start following the law.

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DrBJTester 7 points ago +7 / -0

That depends on who's making money on those stocks, what signal it sends to the market and most importantly what's in it for them.

In this case the thought of them losing power in their control over the market overrides everything else.

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TheRefIsHere 6 points ago +14 / -8

trading halts happen automatically if certain conditions happen; like go up or DOWN 10% in 1 minute for example.

This is to protect traders both ways and so there can be liquidity built up again. because in these situations bid ask spread is very high

Just chalk this thread up to retards not understanding the stockmarket, same thing happened to gme apes (super retards)

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x79q3pb 2 points ago +3 / -1

I would love to see some documentation around the auto thresholds, especially if they are set and mandated by the SEC. Tried to find it on my own to no success.

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sgt_richard 2 points ago +3 / -1

He's full of shit. They only halt it if their team is losing. See also Plunge Protection Team

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TrumpTrainChoooChoo2 2 points ago +4 / -2

Except they halted within a minute of opening and the stock was lower than where it finished trading pre-market this AM so that doesn’t make any sense in this scenario…

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Arcynic2 1 point ago +2 / -1

GME retards like Michael fucking Burry.

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sgt_richard 0 points ago +1 / -1

They only do it if it falls certain percentage. This is an exception because Trump. And I can prove you wrong by just looking at any short squeeze in the last decade. If their team is losing they'll let the short squeeze run so they can recoup their loss. Prime example is gamestop, on Jan 8 there was over 1,700% change.

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TheRefIsHere 1 point ago +1 / -0

and over 10 trading halts

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CA4Newscum 2 points ago +2 / -0

The deep state does NOT want Trump to have a war chest to invest in an uncontrolled mass publication system. It's their worst nightmare. This is why we need to fight with our dollars and invest . Their nightmare is our path to liberty and freedom to continue exposing all their fraudulent activities they current censor from every other communication platform.

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Eatinglue 2 points ago +2 / -0

I’m a farmer…volatile markets are better, that’s the only time there is opportunity. Slow stagnate growth sucks.

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texas4ever 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's wrong but ultimately we can wear them down they can't keep it frozen forever.

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dissapointedokie 8 points ago +9 / -1

Nobody calls for halts. It’s automatic with major swings with volatility.

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BasicKekinomics 10 points ago +10 / -0

It's basically "hold up, our manipulative scripts aren't programmed for this. if we don't stop this trading our automated rigging bullshit could crash the whole stock market!"

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SRKTiberious 4 points ago +4 / -0

Whenever there's someone whipping up strife, go to Wikipedia and check Early Life.

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HyperCarbs 2 points ago +2 / -0

Here is a list of halts just from today.

https://www.nyse.com/trade-halt-current

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x79q3pb 1 point ago +1 / -0

Interesting, shame they don't list the trigger.

Scratch that: found the triggers https://securitiesce.com/what-is-the-limit-up-limit-down-rule/

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Pravda 1 point ago +1 / -0

If its the exchange, its based on basic price drop levels. If its the DTCC, its because they are requiring increased deposits from brokers to transact this equity. The brokers just say, I just wont transact in this. This is insidious, its what happened with GME earlier this year.

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paladoc 19 points ago +23 / -4

Nobody flips a switch and halts trading. It's automatic if price action moves a large percent in a short amount of time. It's not a single person or group halting the trading, it's a machine. Is it dumb? Eh... If you're long on a stock and it's rocketing down it can help you make a decision to exit your position in that time. But on the other hand it can completely stop momentum of a stock that's mooning. Personally I don't like halts, I think they do more harm to investors when stocks are rocketing. But I also understand these things were set in place years and years ago and has nothing to do with current stocks.

Lots of newbies here getting involved in the market with DWAC/PHUN, and that's great, but stop spreading bs.

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Bilabrin 1 point ago +1 / -0

I even see signs of this on crpto exchanges, less so but it still happens.

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Rig4Red 0 points ago +7 / -7

It was a clean election, no fraud. Got it.

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paladoc 5 points ago +7 / -2

Trading halts have nothing to do with the election. I'm not sure what you're insinuating here.

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Rig4Red 2 points ago +2 / -0

Use your brain

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paladoc 0 points ago +1 / -1

You sound just like a leftist faggot. Are you a liberal faggot? Explain to me how market halts, which are not not controlled by human interference, has anything to do with an election. Quit being a faggot.

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Rig4Red 1 point ago +1 / -0

I can see you are a retard that doesnt think critically. If you had 10 one dollar bills and i told you that putting 1 dollar bill at a time in the vending machine would output a coke, but shoving all 10 bills in the machine would cause the machine to jam for 5 minutes before it returned your bills, unless you wanted to sit around waiting, then you wouldnt do it. Mike is standing near the vending machine. Mike sees bob coming. Bob likes cokes. Mike dont like bob, so just as bob shows up to get a coke, mike shove 10 dollar bills into the machine at once. And then bob stares at mike in amazement since now they both have to wait 5 minutes. Mike kindly explains to bob, not his fault, its the vending machines fault, bob in frustration leaves. Karen is standing there and oversees the entire event. karen 1) calls mike out for being an asshole, or 2) agrees with mike that it is obviously the vending machine and no conspiracy here, but that is just the way vending machines work.

Stop being a fucking retarded karen #2 and apologize for being a bill mitchel.

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paladoc 1 point ago +1 / -0

Again, what does that have to do with the election? Nothing. The two are not relatable in the slightest. Market halts in the stock market have no correlation to how the election was rigged. It's two completely different mechanisms. It's asinine to assume that they are the same thing. The halts happened because of FOMO buying and millions of people were buying into the stock, rocketing the price volitility which triggered a market halt, which was not controlled by a human or "them" or some invisible hand. It was a killswitch, a machine, all automated based on if a stocks price jumps +/- ~10% in a very short timespan. nothing more nothing less. And if you think these halts don't happen, they do all the time in a volitile market. The only thing that doesn't halt is crypto. Again, election being rigged and market halts are not in any way shape or form comparable, correlated, or remotely similar because the mechanisms are completely different. So shut your goddamn cockholster, sit down, and keep quiet about things you know nothing about.

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Rig4Red 0 points ago +1 / -1

Yessir, faggot sir! Kek

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Cozette 1 point ago +1 / -0

Last sentence offers great advive. Take it.

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NoFakeNewsCommies 1 point ago +5 / -4

You tried

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Cozette 0 points ago +1 / -1

Its all automatic. TrUsT tHe sYsTeM, newbies. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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becky21k1 18 points ago +19 / -1

No PHUN allowed

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Decypher 3 points ago +3 / -0

Kek

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RedPilledPede 14 points ago +15 / -1

As someone who works in this industry I can tell you that this isnt something that any individual or group is deciding, there are automatic systems in place to halt a stock when it is experiencing extreme volatility. in this case DWAC & PHUN both were tanking compared to the price at the market open, so there are LULD (Limit Up Limit Down) systems that automatically halt the stock for 5 minutes. it doesnt matter if its up or down, and nobody is deciding that they hate MAGA. its a system that exists solely so investors can get a chance to understand what is going on and make decisions for their investments when things are happening too fast.

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Rig4Red 3 points ago +3 / -0

Now do what happens when someone with fuck you money uses the system to prevent the people (us) from investing by doing a timed dump at open. All they have to do is buy big at close or during after hours to dump at open. Loss is neglible for fear effect. Kind of like paying protesters. But sure, not rigged because the halts are clearly defined and now way they could be manipulated.

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RedPilledPede 2 points ago +2 / -0

There is definitely some level of this happening on most stocks for sure. Price manipulation is extremely common for larger hedge funds, and there is even footage somewhere out there of Jim Cramer talking about how he used to do it all the time. This kind of thing is bad in the short term for investors but has no real long term effect on the company's performance. at the end of the day if the company succeeds the price of the stock will reflect that.

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Whatyougotson 1 point ago +1 / -0

Maybe they shouldnt get to halt it to go over the time to make a decision.(like the fraud election), snooze u lose

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RedPilledPede 2 points ago +2 / -0

Perhaps, but thems the rules & they apply to every stock symbol not just DWAC & PHUN. The market is rigged in other ways such as journos (not surprising) unleashing torrents of "bad news" articles on a particular stock they want to see lose value. And insider trading is a bit of a meme because everyone does it and almost nobody gets pinched except when they want to make an example (martha stewart). All this to say that im not defending market integrity here just that the halts dont really mean there is a conspiracy against these MAGA stocks. With that said, definitely watch for the media hit job against these particular stock tickers. I missed the boat on this one but if it goes lower i'm going to load up on this. anything alternative to these dinosaur media propaganda machines is a blessing.

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Its_never_random 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thank you for explaining.

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Captain_MAGA 12 points ago +12 / -0

CRTD also halted.

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CaptainHempbeard [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

Didn't know about that one.

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Observe95 4 points ago +4 / -0

I read it is not involved with DWAC or associated with Trump.

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Isthisreallife2016 11 points ago +12 / -1

This that bullshit

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thelastlast 3 points ago +3 / -0

i was talkin bout

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buckiemohawk 11 points ago +11 / -0

We dont have capitalism we have a Cronyist system in place

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DrBJTester 5 points ago +5 / -0

That's probably the best way to describe it, I like to use the term vulture capitalism, but it's not as accurate as crony capitalism.

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Capitalism_Fuck_Yeah 2 points ago +3 / -1

Stop saying Crony and just say socialist. Socialism is public (government) controlled.

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JKillen 10 points ago +11 / -1

Still bought 150 bucks worth @119 I don’t give a fuck

Woke up at 11 Florida time knowing they would fuck with it but I had no idea they HALTED TRADING FIVE minutes in?!?! Wtf?!

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LoneWolfsBigIgloo 10 points ago +10 / -0

Y’all didn’t want to listen when it was GME.

GME is still the best bet at breaking the system.

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CaptainHempbeard [S] 6 points ago +7 / -1

Agreed.

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Cozette 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Y'all"????? 😂😂😂😂😂 Stopped by on your way to Reddit?

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LoneWolfsBigIgloo 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah I kinda have to use Reddit when this group has no forum for equities and 2 weeks ago still acclaimed the stock market for its capitalistic endeavors negating any possible cronyism or manipulation that might occur.

I’d post about it here and get a solid 3 updoots so in the case of how the stock market can be rigged, I’m gonna separate myself because most here are in a completely different boat and point along their journey.

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The357SigMan 9 points ago +9 / -0

Reddit is home to snuff films, pedophilia, how-to rape, arson, riot planning, jihad, terrorism and other subreddit guides, but that's cool.

A bunch of nerds figure out how to make a few mortgage payments off of Gamestop, and Elizabeth Warren wants congressional investigations.

The only system allowed is the rigged system. If you operate outside that you are a poor (criminal) to them, and they will fuck you up with the full weight and force of government.

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Generic 9 points ago +9 / -0

ITT, a lot of people who don't understand the Volatility Trading Pause mechanism. Different than when Robinhood disallowed trades.

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BostonVoter 9 points ago +12 / -3

You are wrong. It gets halted for a reason. Its called circuit breakers. The rules of the exchange have existed for a very long time. Please stop spreading conspiracy bullshit. This is so sad to see our pateiots.win community spreading Lies and Misinformation.

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Cozette 2 points ago +2 / -0

Citizens, its just the weather! Trust the systems. Everything's fine.

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MeatloafFvck 9 points ago +9 / -0

There was whole lot of fuckery going on with DWAC

Buy some and hold it

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webthing 4 points ago +4 / -0

This is the way.

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NoCoupForYou 9 points ago +9 / -0

Just like the meatpackers shut down the Open Bids for Cattle and pushed Contracts with Ranchers.

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thesteelerfan18 8 points ago +8 / -0

Everyone is so worried about the price right now and why? There hasn't been any release of information about the app or anything... Just buy it now while it's at a lower than average price, and wait until a year or more from now when this media website skyrockets. The real fun begins when the app launches. I'm currently sitting on 18 shares of DWACW at about $40 average.

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Barack-Obama2 8 points ago +8 / -0

What a shit load of short sellers. Between that, ladder attack, the day after a 500% run, etc., I’m surprised this wasn’t crushed to $40-$50 range. Like GME (different across the board otherwiseI know), you have a ton of retail who are willing to sit and lose money just for the cause.

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WarViper1337 7 points ago +8 / -1

Must be a lot of big money players who shorted them and are now losing out big. Same thing as with GME. The only time they step in like this is when the big players are losing out on big money.

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duder56 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's because of circuit breaker rules

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rextexMG 6 points ago +6 / -0

fuckers froze my schwab account cash until "it settles", the free ride protection thing, so i can't trade at all right now. how convenient.

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pnwpatriot97 6 points ago +6 / -0

Bought at $119 the other day, HODL.

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BillDBlasiosBlackSon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Triple digit chads, let's keep this stock moving.

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pnwpatriot97 2 points ago +2 / -0

Quad chin chad soon.

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BunkerHill 6 points ago +6 / -0

Best phrase contender: "when the poor's do a capitalism" !!!

Fren phraseology 101

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CaptainHempbeard [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Exactly.

The phrase came about during the GME rocket. People who missed the uproar over that clearly misunderstand the joke about it.

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Coprolite 6 points ago +6 / -0

They hate us cause they anus.

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Eznorts 6 points ago +7 / -1

Im kicking myself in the ass.

I forgot to set a trailing sell order.

I was up 3 grand.

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LockThemUp 3 points ago +3 / -0

HODL hhaha

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thebest2020 1 point ago +1 / -0

Chill... when did you get in

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BecauseISaidSo 1 point ago +1 / -0

it'll go back up... merger isn't even done... just hold steady

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Eznorts 1 point ago +1 / -0

The goal is to ride $phun up and down while putting gains into $dwac.

Thats 3 grand worth $dwac i stupidly missed out on

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NecroDoge 5 points ago +12 / -7

Jesus fuck you retards. The stock gets halted whenever it hits circuit breakers and is normal. What would be manipulation is a broker not letting you place buy orders.

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julianReyes 4 points ago +4 / -0

don't have to consider their own faults

Not going to lie this is my problem with the present state of mind, or "victim mentality." People want it to be "somebody else's fault" so they don't have to have any responsibility, even if it means they're powerless as a result.

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ggnoreeeeeeeeeee 2 points ago +2 / -0

everyone is waiting for truckers/police/dock workers/France/black people to protest for them. If we protest we are terrorists so we are just going to accept it and never organize or show up again

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Cozette -1 points ago +1 / -2

Using tourist phrases while infiltrating to sow division and doubt dear malevolent? Tsk tsk.

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Redwine82 5 points ago +5 / -0

I gotta stop watching the ups and downs so much, drive myself crazy

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CaptainHempbeard [S] 4 points ago +6 / -2

Set it and..... FORGET IT!

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finscreenname 5 points ago +6 / -1

What are you all talking about? A drop from the pre-market? That is normal. Still at $96+ when posting this.

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CaptainHempbeard [S] 5 points ago +6 / -1

Trading was halted as soon as the market opened.

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LetsGoBrand0n 5 points ago +5 / -0

33 seconds

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Not_my_prez 5 points ago +5 / -0

I'm going to hold the line. Buy and hold.

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LockThemUp 3 points ago +3 / -0

Don't be scared of a little dip, HODL.. I got a feeling it will soar later this week 🙏🏻

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FreedomFlowerDelta 3 points ago +3 / -0

Down = cheaper moon tickets

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russianbot4673 1 point ago +2 / -1

that's like someone in a casino who has a feeling that their number will come up in roulette. i mean, your feeling is based on literally nothing, except the idea that you want to win big money.

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aangler100 3 points ago +3 / -0

I have a feeling you might be right.

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LockThemUp 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'll take it! Lol. All jokes aside, I'm of course not playing with anything more than I'm okay with losing

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entwickelnden 5 points ago +5 / -0

so be it, im HODLING anyways.

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ShadowInv 5 points ago +5 / -0

Crazy amount of volume on PHUN, tons of short action on it.

Would it be a candidate for something like the GME/AMC run ups?

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JoyousMischief 1 point ago +1 / -0

If it turns out that it is the company making the app? I don't know. If it's revealed that another company is? Absolutely not. PHUN is by far the biggest risk.

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aqua27 5 points ago +5 / -0

The system is definitely rigged against the small investor and the halting of trading and the big guys getting the bite at IPO's.

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HFCornspiracy 5 points ago +5 / -0

Screw fidelity and other market apps, I got burned bad making a market purchase. I think that fucking app forced me to be the highest purchase cost for DWAC, a good $100 more than I was willing to pay. Again, fuck fidelity

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dissapointedokie 3 points ago +4 / -1

Helps if you know what you’re doing.

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Ocineaa 5 points ago +5 / -0

They don't want normal people getting ahead.

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SaulGoodman 4 points ago +4 / -0

I have DWAC, DWACU, DWACW, PHUN, BENE, and CRTD on my watch list. I'm going to wait until the manipulation calms down.

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ShitOfPeace 4 points ago +4 / -0

Liberal bureaucrats can't stand when they aren't 100% in control of who makes the money.

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DemonkkkRatSlavers 4 points ago +4 / -0

Hence their need to (((regulate))) crypto currencies to their favor and cryptos demise.

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RedHorsePill 4 points ago +4 / -0

We did a thing, they don't Iike that.

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LastconservativeNY2 4 points ago +4 / -0

87 and free fall; I thought they were supposed to halt? It was 108 this morning

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ThatsDoable 3 points ago +3 / -0

Panic sellers are selling now and day traders. Look for trends leading into Wednesday. Remember it was 45 dollars and trailing down Thursday afternoon.

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LockThemUp 1 point ago +1 / -0

Was it really? Lol

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ThatsDoable 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yep

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russianbot4673 0 points ago +1 / -1

umm it didn't go down from 45 a whole lot. and it was only going down for a short while, and then it just shot up.

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CaptainHempbeard [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

Right?!

Where's "muh algorithimz" now?!

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dissapointedokie 4 points ago +4 / -0

It has to happen in moments, not over the course of time. Raising or dropping 10% in 30 seconds triggers it. Dropping 10% over the course of an hour does not. They have to be able to sort the orders.

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jonwick -1 points ago +1 / -2

It's cratering

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Pepe_Kekmaster 4 points ago +4 / -0

President Trump needs to create a digital currency after he retakes the Presidency. Then we can abolish the fed and the U.S. Dollar.

Can't just print out more digital coins .

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Magarmy91 4 points ago +4 / -0

It closes down 10 % it open at $120 it should had been up to 150 or more at close. The reason for this shit was Facebook was down Thursday and Friday but today Facebook was the big winner and never was halted at all to make it a bigger buy. The cnn story Facebook up big in stock market Trump fails agian with big lost.

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dissapointedokie 1 point ago +1 / -0

Everything is a conspiracy.

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Nieking 4 points ago +4 / -0

This is called a “Limit Up-Limit Down” halt.

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CaptainHempbeard [S] 1 point ago +3 / -2

Thank you for the clarification.

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CrusadingPowerUser 4 points ago +4 / -0

It's all over when Crypto replaces the world's reserve currency. They are on borrowed time in my opinion. It's a major change. I don't know for sure it's going to happen but everyone senses something major is coming.. It will likely cause very hard times for humans as governments adjust to a new way of commerce because they will have less control

So my opinion is the people will go into a time of reckoning with governments who are mad at their peasant class for leaving their plantation..

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987321 3 points ago +3 / -0

Trump needs to make a utility token with cryptocurrency. Can't halt that rocket.

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Cozette 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fyi Trumps NOT a fan of crypto.