3602
Comments (2835)
sorted by:
4
WowbaggerTIP 4 points ago +4 / -0

If this isn't the most clear-cut, textbook example of self-defense, I don't know what is. If Kyle loses, I guess we're all just supposed to be dead before we fire a shot.

7
Leddhead 7 points ago +7 / -0

I watch this and keep asking myself "What in the fuck is this prosecutor doing?" He's such a shitbox attempting to squeeze water from a rock.

2
Jaybird91 2 points ago +2 / -0

At this point it’s kind of funny. If it weren’t a good young guy’s life on the line it would be much easier to laugh at

4
MarginofFraud 4 points ago +4 / -0

Seems the big takeaway today is that it's a bad strategy to call your defendant to the stand but Kyle was so innocent and consistent and Binger so unscrupulous with his behavior that any advantage the prosecution had interrogating the defendant we're kind of cancelled out.

3
PartTimeLoser 3 points ago +6 / -3

idk but I for one am never going to watch the trial with these retards talking over all these important points during the trial.

Whenever something important is being said, they talk over them. So obnoxious.

1
Jaybird91 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah I’ve been watching just a straight live stream on YouTube.

4
SquirtAlert 4 points ago +4 / -0

How's everyone feeling about the trial today? I couldn't bring myself to watch Kyle take the stand.

1
Jaybird91 1 point ago +1 / -0

Kyle was great

1
medicpatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Are there any planned demonstrations for our side?

6
jarvis 6 points ago +6 / -0

Crowder is going to organize one if Kyle is found guilty.

1
medicpatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

It should happen BEFORE that

7
medicpatriot 7 points ago +7 / -0

At first I only saw the prosecution grill Kyle, but I went back and watched the defense side. I actually think Kyle taking the stand might be beneficial. It told his side of the story, answered a lot of questions, humanized him as a young boy and not a lunatic racist out to shoot people, the prosecutions points did not bring up any new facts. Also, the jurors may have seen the prosecution as bullying Kyle. It’s hard to say what’s on the mind of the jury though. It was a risky move, but overall I don’t think Kyle fucked himself with anything major. Risky move, but it could pay off.

2
Random_Question_Guy 2 points ago +2 / -0

I look at it as the defense told their story from the man of the hour himself. The prosecution just repeated the same question 100s of times to hopefully trip him up. That will piss off a jury. Then freezing a 30 second clip at specific points it create a gotcha moment doesn’t sit well either. And Kyle kept himself composed and didn’t even get sarcastic

2
medicpatriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

Kyle telling his account seemed to paint the story way better than the rest of the witnesses did. I have to give the defense credit for that. It may have even been their plan to let the prosecution rip on him for hours, knowing he was ready to keep his facts straight and stay composed.

2
HeavyVetting 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hope you're right.

2
medicpatriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

It’s generally not a good idea, but there was a lot of “why was he there” bullshit. His testimony may have swayed some fence sitters. But no, I don’t trust a jury.

-7
Barbs -7 points ago +4 / -11

Kyle’s lawyer’s objection to the evidence presented on an iPad was one of the most technologically illiterate things I’ve ever heard.

He was going on like “pinch and zoom” is a CSI “enhance” method, lol. That was the one time I was actually on the prosecutor’s side, trying to explain basic tech these days to tech illiterate people.

Otherwise the prosecutor is a massive douche, and seemed to be implying that Kyle should have let them incapacitate or kill him before executing deadly force. The whole point of deadly force in self-defense is to prevent that shit.

12
runonce 12 points ago +12 / -0

Apple uses an algorithm that inserts pixels based on it's interpretation of the magnified area. I don't personally know how well or accurate it works on images that are already subpar but "inserting pixesl based on an algorithm can also induce artifacts. That's what the defense was explaining in their objection. Don't know if that was exactly what you were referring to, but since the defense can't offe r an expert opinion they simply raised the point in a simple manner. The prosecution's explanation of "pinch and zoom" was incorrect in total bordering on criminal if it wasn't for their consistent display of stupidity up to this point.

3
Redpillmachine 3 points ago +3 / -0

Also defense specifically mentioned that apple algorithm was brought up by their forensics expert.

I did cringe when he said a logarithm instead of algorithm. But maybe I'm the dumbo and there is some logarithm math he was specifically talking about.

3
runonce 3 points ago +3 / -0

The last time I heard somebody use the word logarithm they were holding a slide rule, so I'm going to go with your take on it for sure.

1
runonce 1 point ago +1 / -0

He looks more like an undercover FBI used RV salesman.

9
GreatWhiteBuffalo 9 points ago +9 / -0

You were on prosecution side who described an iPad as the same thing as a magnifying glass?

1
donalds_stones 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nvi

13
TrumpOrTreason 13 points ago +13 / -0

That prosecutor totally failed the "Commissioner Gordon" look.

6
KungPaoMcChicken 6 points ago +6 / -0

It's really hard to find all the video footage. I was watching it fine, but it kind of feels like there is missing footage of the trial. Is there anyone with a full list? I think day 7 material isn't completely easy to find. I assume that the day 7 doesn't start with Kyle right? Or did he?

21
BladeX10 21 points ago +21 / -0

This case needs to be the line drawn in the sand. This is a textbook self defense case with full documented video and anything other than a not guilty verdict on those murder charges is a result of politics and woke mob intimidation.

1
Jaybird91 1 point ago +1 / -0

If he’s found guilty it will be worth the conversation but at this point I think everyone is just going through the motions because it’s so clear cut. Shit’s literally on video and the prosecutor is just taking two weeks to make a fucking fool of himself in front of millions

6
keepamericagreat102 6 points ago +6 / -0

Most of the country are bunch of cowards, it's the only reason this thing is in trial and not dismissed in the first place. BLM comes out, everyone starts sucking their dick, every corporation, every business, almost every democrat, entire media, everyone. Very coordinated.

In normal circumstances they'd not even charge Kyle, but give him a medal for defending his county when everyone else was too pussy to do it.

3
spicybot 3 points ago +3 / -0

Unfortunate that in 🤡 world, normal has been replaced with a "new" normal

16
Schroeder09 16 points ago +18 / -2

Rittenhouse probably shouldn't have taken the stand. His defense seemed totally incompetent to allow everything they did in the seemingly hours, and hours, and hours long boring cross examination from the commie hack prosecuter, Boinger.

That being said, I don't think him taking the stand hurt the case. The prosecutor was mean. His line of questioning seemed insane trying to make it seem like the total lunatic pedophile screaming the N word and lunging at Kyle wasn't that dangerous. The guy beating him over the head wasn't that dangerous either because he too did NOT have a gun. Commie, wanna be cop killer bi-less boi wasn't a threat either because he had a gun, but it was littler.

It drug on waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy to long and was insane. Even the most moronic, scared, cucked of jurorers would agree. I truly believe this as I try to look at the situation from a cucked sheep's point of view.

4
deleted 4 points ago +4 / -0
2
Schroeder09 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sure, there's a the 4D chess argument, but the risk level taken on from this- assuming it worked out- seems too great to me. I'm still saying the risk>potential benefit when they were seemingly up big, so yeah, I'm saying incompetence and not some 4d chess move. Taking unnecessary, stupid risks is indeed incompetence.

I do see what you're saying and your opinion is noted. I just don't agree.

1
Defender110 1 point ago +1 / -0

Attorney Mark Geragos talked about the yesterday (?) on the Reasonable Doubt podcast with Adam Corolla. This was before today, before Kyle was called, and Geragos said that calling Kyle to the stand would be “snatching defeat from the jaws of victory” IF [and this is the salient point] the jury was favorable to the defense.

My take here is that the defense sized up the jury and decided that the testimony thus far was not enough to convince them and that Kyle, with his demeanor, was needed to bring about reasonable doubt.

1
Schroeder09 1 point ago +1 / -0

Perhaps you are right. If you are right I'd say Kyle is screwed. If it wasn't a slam dunk before Kyle was harassed by the idiot commie prosecutor, it never will be. If the multitude of videos weren't enough bi-boi's testimony should have sealed the deal.

0
thunderstorm 0 points ago +1 / -1

Who is taking the risk though? Everyone assumes it was the lawyers putting him on the stand. It was Kyle that ultimately made the choice to testify, and that could be in direct opposition to the advice from his attorney.

4
Paxelmania 4 points ago +4 / -0

live YT vids freak me out I have no idea where I am

I should just go back and watch previous days

4
The_Expert 4 points ago +4 / -0

If you watch any, watch yesterdays. It was the some of the best entertainment I have seen all year. https://youtu.be/iRYhUSFaa9U

2
Paxelmania 2 points ago +2 / -0

does anyone post minute marks to skip to since this is hours?

4
SaltiTaralli 4 points ago +4 / -0

Definitely highlights of the Judge yelling today would be good too. 😂

21
AnonymousFrog 21 points ago +21 / -0

If armorer car guards and bank guards can have guns to protect themselves and others while they protect property, why can’t Kyle?

2
EatMyCuck 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't understand why the defense doesn't hammer this home. Maybe they will... Guns are legal deterrents. Fuck, we all watched these riots in real-time throughout 2020. The entire country collectively witnessed the police figuratively cuck to the so-called 'peaceful protests' and anti-law enforcement narrative. What recourse is left if not for decent people like Kyle? They say, "Well he shouldn't have been there!". So we, the citizens of this country, are supposed to just allow arson of private property? Billions in dollars of damages? Clear acts of violence documented all over our country? This is entirely political and not at all about justice. They are trying to put Kyle on the gallows as a lesson to all of us that value the rule of law and dare maintain a semblance of order. It also happens to be my hill to die on.

1
SCpede 1 point ago +1 / -0

Good point

26
allyouhad 26 points ago +26 / -0

The prosecutor is directly challenging the right of self defense. He's claiming that if you can't name the specific threat for which you'd need protect/self-defense, then you don't need the means... if you can name the threat, the you can avoid it and thus there is no need self defense... Basically, "if you can't tell me of a conversation you planned to have with your mother, why would you bother having her phone number?" Or "if you are not planning to have a house fire, why would you install fire extinguishers?"... This prosecutor is doing everything he can to make Kyle sound like he went there "to shoot someone"... But his lame attempts are failing because it's a democrat lie.

3
GreatWhiteBuffalo 3 points ago +3 / -0

His attempts also failed because Kyle was about as good as you can be getting called up on your own murder trial.

6
The_Expert 6 points ago +6 / -0

My favorite is, why do you have condoms if you aren't planning on having sex.

4
deleted 4 points ago +10 / -6
0
Barbs 0 points ago +3 / -3

Jewish lawyers are a conspiracy now?

Holy shit, don’t look into accounting or medicine or you’re gonna have a heart attack.

1
deleted 1 point ago +3 / -2
2
MasterChef 2 points ago +2 / -0

How did you find that out?

0
thunderstorm 0 points ago +1 / -1

There are a lot of Jewish lawyers.

42
deleted 42 points ago +44 / -2
8
BladeX10 8 points ago +8 / -0

Crazy how much politics plays a part in this doesnt it? A black cop shoots a white conservative in "self defense" and he gets tv interviews and no charges at all and honored as a hero. A conservative shoots some piece of shit child sex offfender women beating commies in self defense and he is on trial for murder. People really need to start waking up to see what is going on here

4
SCpede 4 points ago +4 / -0

As if it wasn't bad enough you had to bring that up. Im triple pissed now

3
NuclearPoweredChevy 3 points ago +3 / -0

Edit: Forgot to mention that cops were assassinated by the Deep State so it's extremely likely that they were red false info to imply there was a violent mob. Their testimony could have placed Babbitt's death on someone higher up. Perhaps even at the top levels of the DC police and FBI.

Is there something I'm missing with Babbitt? Because from the footage I've seen on the day of the protest, Antifa thugs tried breaking into a locked chamber where police and several Congress members were hiding. The officer fired at the person breaking in and the bullet struck Babbitt. No idea if the Antifa plant was also struck.

The storming of the capital was a trap with Antifa plants and police intentionally letting people through. There was a lot of shady stuff happening that day and we don't have answers on who was given orders.

I wouldn't be surprised if the officers behind the door was intentionally left in the dark so a bloodbath would ensue.

Regardless, Jan 6th should have been the point where red states decided coexistence with blue states was not an option.

-1
deleted -1 points ago +1 / -2
1
NuclearPoweredChevy 1 point ago +1 / -0

So he almost took out one of his own as well? That means the cops with Babbitt wasn't communicating with the others and leading the protestors into a trap.

5
ThunderInYourHeart 5 points ago +5 / -0

There was clear evidence there too that there was no need to shoot.

11
TruthDefenseForce 11 points ago +11 / -0

When undeniably, she wasn't a threat. This country is a joke. All our leaders need to be hanged.

3
Clandestiny 3 points ago +3 / -0

She wasn't charging trying to drop kick people while screaming about cutting their hearts out.

16
Bileh 16 points ago +16 / -0

Prosecutor is one of the slimiest human beings I've ever heard. I wasn't sure what I was watching was taking place in a court room or a congressional hearing.

1
HyperCarbs 1 point ago +2 / -1

Maybe fatboi will speak up tomorrow.

20
BeerAndCope 20 points ago +20 / -0

When the judge believes the prosecutor is bringing forbidden topics up in front of the jury in bad faith that should be an automatic case dismissal. There is no way you can state the defendant had a fair trial while also believing the prosecutor was acting in bad faith outside of the ordered boundaries of the trial.

8
derek17005 8 points ago +8 / -0

As I understand it so I could be very wrong, the defense hasn't actually filed their motion for dismissal w/prejudice yet and are going to submit a written motion.

4
BeerAndCope 4 points ago +4 / -0

Well they better do that shit in the next couple of hours.

14
SaveUsSCOTUS 14 points ago +15 / -1

they need to hand the jurors a pamphlet of what exactly constitutes self defense and end it at that, all the theatrics don't fucking matter. he defended himself.

2
ThunderInYourHeart 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is what I don't get. Regardless of whether or not we've proven self-defense (even though we basically have) how can the prosecution legally lie in front of a jury about what constitutes self-defense so that they vote guilty? I understand the need for both sides of the argument, but at what point do we draw a line?

10
zigZag590 10 points ago +10 / -0

You don't get it. Liberals don't care about the facts. How many jurors are liberals. That's what it comes down to, like chauvin.

6
SaveUsSCOTUS 6 points ago +7 / -1

unfortunate but true. how many NPCs.

4
zigZag590 4 points ago +5 / -1

People who think this is a slam dunk case haven't been paying attention.

6
SaveUsSCOTUS 6 points ago +7 / -1

It's not a slam dunk case because it's a jury trial. and the left doesn't lawfare fairly.

3
zigZag590 3 points ago +3 / -0

Many people here are behaving like it is (not you specifically), but many here will be shocked.

14
Long_time_lurker 14 points ago +14 / -0

Yeah, the jury instructions are what really matter at this point, unless the judge really does give a mistrial with prejudice.

There's the charge of illegally having the AR-15 there. If that stands, it can hurt all of Kyle's later interactions being lawful self-defense. It's the one big technicality which stands in the way here.

Other than that, the prosecution has completely imploded here, pissed off the judge, and given Kyle a clear route to appeal any adverse verdict here.

5
SaveUsSCOTUS 5 points ago +6 / -1

except he was handling the weapon as part of a well regulated militia, his age being illegal is nullified by the constitution on that. You don't have to be 18 to be in the militia. Only 17.

Militia: "a military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency." there was an emergency, they were supplementing the police and EMS as civilians.

"The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members ..."

1
Long_time_lurker 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't think they've argued this part, they only argued under WI law which is as clear as mud. I think that under WI law that either what he did is legal on its face or that the WI law is unconstitutionally vague.

1
masterdrake 1 point ago +2 / -1

Except that no jury or judge gives a damn about the Constitution anymore

14
ThunderInYourHeart 14 points ago +14 / -0

So, coming from someone with limited understanding of court situations, how is it that, even if we've proven self-defense beyond the shadow of a doubt, that the prosecutor can then try and convince a jury otherwise, who may not understand the technicalities of what defines self-defense?

7
no_steppy13 7 points ago +7 / -0

It's easy to "prove" something if it's only being argued from one side. Both sides are an important part of the process to make sure the jury gets the whole picture.

7
HeavyVetting 7 points ago +7 / -0

First the prosecution calls witnesses and the defense can cross examine. Then the defense does have a chance to move for the judge to issue a verdict if the prosecution hasn't made their case. This rarely goes through, they didn't do that here. Then the defense gets to call their witnesses and the prosecution can cross examine. That's where we are. There's still a chance once the testimony is over that they can move for the judge to rule, but he'd probably rather leave it to a jury. Even then the judge can still overrule the jury's verdict.

12
TheMadManDidItAgain 12 points ago +12 / -0

I believe the prosecutor has to prove Kyle meant to murder them beyond the shadow of a doubt. Kyle is innocent until proven guilty. What you say makes it sound like Kyle is guilty unless proven innocent.

6
Tronbot 6 points ago +6 / -0

Not sure if you've been paying attention but that's exactly how our courts work now

4
HeavyVetting 4 points ago +4 / -0

Especially with the media's influence.

6
ThunderInYourHeart 6 points ago +6 / -0

No not at all, quite the opposite - I guess what I mean is at this point it sounds like the prosecutor is aware that the self defense argument is pretty strong, and he's trying to frame it so that the Jury doesn't see it that way. That's pretty fucked up, because at this point even he knows the kid is likely innocent but he wants a win.

23
KingOfTards 23 points ago +29 / -6

I think we can all agree. Kyle is not a dooming 1776 LARPING faggot. He also didn't go to prevent the riots. He went to help. He is a good Patriot.

1
doug2 1 point ago +4 / -3

Wtf

1
Clandestiny 1 point ago +3 / -2

He DID advertise it with his username, lol.

2
KingOfTards 2 points ago +4 / -2

Yes I am king of Stormtard dooming faggots. Bow down.

4
Clandestiny 4 points ago +4 / -0

Won't find me dooming - I'm here for the longhaul. Hell, I think we should redo J6 and shave the politicians heads then frog march them to hard labor camps and work them to literal exhaustion breaking rocks to build the wall/moat/automated-turret-emplacements.

14
Hamadryad 14 points ago +15 / -1

How much would you pay to have Kyle Rittenhouse's gun? Certified to take out commies.

Reply and place your bid.

1
FireannDireach 1 point ago +1 / -0

$500 dollar gun that gave justice for children who were raped by the pedo it killed.

Priceless.

3
KingOfTards 3 points ago +5 / -2

As long as 100% proceeds went to Kyle and family

4
desertflower 4 points ago +4 / -0

There should be a minimum bid of $10,000.

11
Clandestiny 11 points ago +11 / -0

$1,776.69 👌

7
FLIBS 7 points ago +7 / -0

Yeah it's a shame.. in my world when the prosecutor asked "you shot all those men before they shot you". I'd respond "Hell yeah, fastest gun bitch!"

10
JackLemon 10 points ago +12 / -2

Wow, in addition to a top notch legal team of lawyers with several jury consultants, he was going to also front the cost for a parallel jury whose opinions they could query on a daily basis.

3
KingOfTards 3 points ago +5 / -2

Who

8
DuesImperator 8 points ago +8 / -0

Robert Barnes

0
thunderstorm 0 points ago +4 / -4

Barnes is an egotistical blowhard.

59
NoiD88 59 points ago +59 / -0

takeaways from today: "But Did You Die" is now a valid reason to convict

28
pushbackv2 28 points ago +28 / -0

Also "If their gun is smaller than yours, they're not a threat"

21
BoomCannon 21 points ago +21 / -0

Or, if the person is only attacking you with their fists or feet, you can’t defend yourself.

3
FLIBS 3 points ago +3 / -0

Also it's not a threat from a gun unless they hold it like a 1970's police show.

11
tabularasa_556 11 points ago +11 / -0

"All he had was his one foot?"

Yeah, with 170ish pounds of weight behind it, over my face.

I like how every time the goalposts moved.

"He didn't have a weapon, did he?"

"He was using his skateboard as an improvised club, but he didn't have a real weapon, right?"

"He had a gun, but it was smaller, and he didn't actually shoot you, right?"

7
BoomCannon 7 points ago +7 / -0

I don’t know how prosecutors, or anyone, could live with themselves blatantly trying to absolutely ruin an 18 year olds life after he did no wrong. And they know it too.

1
endersshadow 1 point ago +1 / -0

He's a DA - I'm pretty sure that's par for the course. They are up there with time share salesmen and Indian scammers.

3
_Eric_Ciaramella_ 3 points ago +3 / -0

he's 1000% a Democrat, so it's easy

14
NavyGuy 14 points ago +14 / -0

I almost fell out of my chair when he tried to float that turd.

46
zaia123 46 points ago +46 / -0

Feel so bad for kyle. Just watchin that cunt prosecutor, my brain feels burnt out

21
FLIBS 21 points ago +21 / -0

Hope the jurors feel the same!

8
deleted 8 points ago +12 / -4
8
VarusSPQR 8 points ago +8 / -0

I’m ashamed to live in the same country as those morons.

1
doug2 1 point ago +2 / -1

Ya they also all said it was a mistake to have kyle testify and I think that ended up being total BS

0
JackLemon 0 points ago +1 / -1

We can hope that is the case, however, the risk greatly outweighed the reward. If the judge fails to throw the case out due to prosecutorial misconduct and it ends up as a hung jury then putting him on the stand will be viewed as a huge mistake. If he's acquitted its will because the jury followed the law and evidence. They didn't need to hear from Kyle.

29
Blergaderg 29 points ago +30 / -1

Kyle looks so out of it. Poor kid. Hope he and his family get a nice vacation out of this and that shit doesn't just crumble afterwards for him.

23
Chesteraarthur2 23 points ago +23 / -0

I would contribute to the Kyle Vacation Fund for sure

13
pushbackv2 13 points ago +14 / -1

Problem with a vacation is that you only vacate from the problems and they'll still be there when you return. We need a total overhaul, including a cleaning out of the courts and Senate.

17
YoMamma2020 17 points ago +17 / -0

Kid seems to have a good head on his shoulders. He has a kind heart, too. I think this event will affect him maybe... positively? Rather than turning him into a depressed, angry person.

6
KingOfTards 6 points ago +8 / -2

Agree. I don't see him being a doomer faggot. He is a total Patriot.

33
HyperCarbs 33 points ago +33 / -0

Hey Doogo and other admins. Could we please get sticky early tomorrow?

18
-f-b-i- [M] 18 points ago +19 / -1

Well, what time ya want one? This was stickied almost all day.

7
POWESHOW 7 points ago +7 / -0

Please sticky the Rekieta Law stream... it's the best

5
deleted 5 points ago +5 / -0
3
HyperCarbs 3 points ago +3 / -0

When court starts. Maybe an hour before? Been about 2 hours before a sticky here over the last week and a half. Lots of posts here with a live steam before a sticky this entire trial. Lots of streaming links out there. Plenty of new posts with links.

A watch party would be great each day.

4
Burninator 4 points ago +4 / -0

It starts at 9am tomorrow

11
Maaam 11 points ago +11 / -0

As soon as it starts I guess

15
-f-b-i- 15 points ago +15 / -0

So post it up and ping me then.

12
pushbackv2 12 points ago +12 / -0

^ This.

1
deleted 1 point ago +1 / -0
17
jack1989 17 points ago +17 / -0

This judge is a very mercurial man

24
Jarlason10 24 points ago +25 / -1

Dude the judge just said cool.

8
FLIBS 8 points ago +9 / -1

Awesome judge, but sadly an old generation. New generation push their own agenda and must be "woke"

17
pushbackv2 17 points ago +17 / -0

Making the most of a terrible trial.

Diplomatic when he needs to be. Ripped Binger a few new assholes. Totally based.

12
Patriot3976 12 points ago +12 / -0

Binger needs a few new assholes too because his is worn the fuck out because he is a total faggot.

6
HeavyVetting 6 points ago +6 / -0

Most believable reason I've heard to explain his conduct today.

15
KlunniClowns 15 points ago +17 / -2

The judge just interjected Abraham Lincoln and the emancipation proclamation in his conversation with the defense and prosecution.

Hmmm

19
JackLemon 19 points ago +21 / -2

From what Barnes said that financial advisor who has been controlling things sounds like he was a real weasel. Why was he setting up press interviews, getting Kyle to pose with people with sketchy backgrounds, selling t-shirts with inflammatory statements, etc? The prosecutor has been trying to use that against Kyle. It's suspicious af.

-2
KingOfTards -2 points ago +3 / -5

Barnes the old hag that distracts with gossip.

0
JackLemon 0 points ago +1 / -1

lol. He's an experienced, well respected attorney who spent months on the case and knows the details. Who the fuck are you besides being "King of tards" ?

0
thunderstorm 0 points ago +4 / -4

Barnes is also butt hurt that he didn't get to essentially take over the defense.

1
JackLemon 1 point ago +1 / -0

From what I have seen from the liberal Dimmocrat Richards it's too bad Barnes didn't take it over. Richards is a moron who turned an easy win into what could be a loss.

1
deleted 1 point ago +1 / -0
1
JackLemon 1 point ago +1 / -0

You know he was chosen by them for a fact? Or was it the financial advisor that controlled access to Kyle and his mother that chose Richards? You even admit they didn't meet Barnes. If true, then they didn't actually choose at all.

I am not sure the Judge is a Dimmocrat now. The ringtone on his phone, a commonly used song at Trump's rallies is definitely not a favorite among Dimmocrats.

As far as selecting legal representation based on political affiliation, especially in one of the highest profile cases in years, it is the rational thing to do cetera paribus. As the mountains of evidence proves, Dimmocrats are often sleazy, immoral, anti-American liars. From his terrible performance in this trial, it's not clear whether the self-described liberal Dimmocrat Richards is just unbelievably incompetent or trying to sabotage Kyle.

1
deleted 1 point ago +1 / -0
1
JackLemon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Who are you to have such detailed, unreported information?

There is no evidence Kyle's lawyer is terrible. There are only opinions of other lawyers who are as egotistical as every other lawyer.

Lol. You're either delusional, a relative or have some other association with Richards. One doesn't have to be a lawyer to see what an incompetent buffoon the liberal Dimmocrat Richards is. Also, there is no evidence that the numerous lawyers criticizing him have any bias toward him. They are telling the truth and you aren't. The fact Richards has never done a self-defense case like this nor has he ever been involved in a high profile case shows. Has Richards ever won a single trial, if so what was the case number?

1
thunderstorm 1 point ago +2 / -1

I will revise and say there was definitely some evidence for complete incompetence on the part of the defense.

1
deleted 1 point ago +1 / -0
3
HeavyVetting 3 points ago +3 / -0

When did he say he wanted to do that? He was only going to help with jury selection and PR.

0
thunderstorm 0 points ago +1 / -1

It's hard to get a complete picture with just his side of the story as he is only giving information that puts himself in a good light. However, from how he talked with Viva, I very much got the impression that is exactly what he was doing as he kept denying that he was taking over, or taking credit.

There were a number of strange things such as where Barnes put requirements for his help that Kyle's sister would control the defense funds. Kyle's mom is an adult, Kyle is an adult. What right does Barnes have to give such stipulations?

7
N7fury 7 points ago +7 / -0

Yeah, that was very interesting that he brought that up because the prosecuted railed on it, but I don't think the jury was allowed to hear that right? That sounds like a sleezy set up

5
DickTick 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yup, was in sidebar

7
cyberwar 7 points ago +7 / -0

yea I wonder where all the donated money went

2
HeavyVetting 2 points ago +2 / -0

Always follow the money.

51
dldeuce 51 points ago +51 / -0

The whole premise of the prosecutor is disgusting. None of the good citizens of Kenosha, or anywhere else, should protect their community from a rioting mob trying to burn it down. We should be good sheep, stay home, and watch the police letting them actually burn it down.

I remember yesterday the woman with the .380 pistol. Basically he was asking her what authority would she have to use a gun to protect property. I knew the answer. We the People have the same authority and civic duty as the police. In fact, we have the superior authority, having only delegated some of our power to the police. If the police are going to stand by and even protect violent rioters burning down our cities, we have all the authority we need.

2
KingOfTards 2 points ago +4 / -2

Kyle went to help. He did not go to stop people.

Anyone who would have went to stop the riots would have made 1000 mistakes in Kyle's situation.

2
dldeuce 2 points ago +2 / -0

The prosecutor’s perspective is way bigger than just Kyle. The prosecutor is representing this disgusting communist takeover of our country, and he’s condemning all of us.

2
doug2 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'd of supported him even if he went to stop the riots. The faggot prosecutor really tried to make kyle out to be the bad guy for putting out fires. Said he was "interfering." It really seems like the state wanted these rioters to do what they were doing and kyle got in the way

10
BobSux 10 points ago +10 / -0

Land of the sheltered in place and home of the scared.

6
Songofsixpence 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yes I would like to see arguments based directly on the constitution used far more often.

28
unlimitedpo 28 points ago +28 / -0

So you say you believe Mr. Rosenbaum was trying to kill you, correct? Yes, Mr. Rosenbaum was going to kill me. But he didn't, correct? Mr. Rosenbaum was going to kill me. But he didn't, correct?

28
HeavyVetting 28 points ago +28 / -0

You have to let the pedophile kill you first, the Binger Rule.

11
dakinnia 11 points ago +11 / -0

You mis-spelled "Banger of Children".

9
Whitespace 9 points ago +9 / -0

It's well known that Binger is a child molester.

1
doug2 1 point ago +1 / -0

O shit hes been accused boys, you know what that means!!!!

3
UnhingedRussian 3 points ago +3 / -0

A chomo as they call em in prison; where he had been at one point.

31
JackLemon 31 points ago +31 / -0

Good to see all the lawyers praise Kyle for his incredible performance on the stand. The kids is remarkable it's like he has ice water for nerves.

4
Jimmy33 4 points ago +4 / -0

His self discipline is incredible.

10
Imitate214 10 points ago +10 / -0

Are they done for the day?

6
_-Th0r-_ 6 points ago +6 / -0

Short break. Defense attorney needed to go pee pee.

4
HeavyVetting 4 points ago +4 / -0

Richards needed to pee

4
cjcivicx 4 points ago +4 / -0

Nope. 5 min recess

4
TickleTh1sElmo 4 points ago +4 / -0

On break, I think.

41
Herpawinski 41 points ago +41 / -0

Prosecutor is actually arguing that kyle shouldn't have shot the pedo until the pedo successfully took the gun? Fuck this shitweasel.

3
FLIBS 3 points ago +3 / -0

I hope this also resonated with the jurors!

15
pushbackv2 15 points ago +15 / -0

I don't think anyone on the jury is buying his line of reasoning.

Everything with this guy has been an insane reach and goes down a completely illogical line of thinking.

2
Husky 2 points ago +2 / -0

My concern is I would not consider it outside the realm of possibility that the jurors are lowest common denominator.

2
RStroud 2 points ago +2 / -0

Prosecutor is doing infinitesimal analysis on events that happened in less than a second. Stepping through freeze frames covering 1/30th of a second is particularly obvious. Average reaction time is about 7 frames. There's no time to form a true thought, you just do. Prosecutor wants the jury to think Kyle's playing chess, rather than navigating his way through a battlefield.

17
Whitespace 17 points ago +17 / -0

Basically, he denies the right to life, 1st Amendment 2nd Amendment 5th Amendment.

10
cyberwar 10 points ago +10 / -0

did he know that Rosenbaum was a 5 times child rapist?

6
Whitespace 6 points ago +6 / -0

Binger knows how to shame children into sexual interactions. He's a stone cold pedo.

25
Flipakademsarepedos 25 points ago +25 / -0

Pray for Kyle pedes!!! 🙏🏻

2
MetallicOpeth 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think this is pretty open and closed self defense case

0
thunderstorm 0 points ago +1 / -1

That doesn't matter when it comes to juries.

2
FLIBS 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's ain't over.

25
I-am-but-an-egg 25 points ago +25 / -0

I think he handled the questions pretty well by not going with the premise of the the prosecutors questions.

“I didn’t want to kill anyone.”

“He grabbed my gun”

They were chasing me

3
BoomCannon 3 points ago +3 / -0

It’s ridiculous how much the slimy prosecutor is trying to change the narrative. He’s doing everything he can, including illegal shit.

6
deleted 6 points ago +6 / -0
11
YoMamma2020 11 points ago +11 / -0

He was great! I couldn't have handled myself that well. I'd have gotten pissed lol

2
FLIBS 2 points ago +2 / -0

He was amazing! I was throwing my hands up during questioning. He kept his cool and appeared honest. (which I think he was) Hopefully this played well to the jury. Can't imagine the prosecution won over any jurors with that performance.

0
YoMamma2020 0 points ago +0 / -0

Kenosha went for Trump, they are a "Do Not Tread On Me" town. I'm sure they tried to get the most woke jury but probably not an easy thing there. So if they feel even a tiny bit like we do about douchbag Binger, Kyle is in good shape.

2
FLIBS 2 points ago +2 / -0

hope so pede

21
donalds_stones 21 points ago +21 / -0

Just remember the state has to prove beyond reasonable doubt that it wasn’t self defense. Case over

3
JackLemon 3 points ago +3 / -0

According to state law, it is has to be proved BARD that he had no reason for self-defense. That makes it a slam dunk given the evidence. All the perps tried to kill him so he had a reason in each case.

1
donalds_stones 1 point ago +1 / -0

That’s what is said

1
JackLemon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Did you mean what you said? If so, then not quite. In many jurisdictions you have to prove it was self-defense, whereas in Wisconsin the prosecution has to prove you had no reason to defend yourself.

1
donalds_stones 1 point ago +1 / -0

Were saying the same thing. I live in Wisconsin and have a Concealed Carry. I know the laws.

11
rob9 11 points ago +11 / -0

No, they have to convince a jury. Just see Chauvins trial or OJs for high profile cases where it can go wrong.

Although I don't think prosecution is landing any real punches, and the climate surrounding the trial seems to be better than Chauvins or OJs, but the defense is still playing a dangerous game here.

4
deleted 4 points ago +4 / -0
19
TrumpVoter1 19 points ago +19 / -0

Juries are unpredictable

5
cjcivicx 5 points ago +5 / -0

By the live tweets from the courtroom, the jury is bored and checked out a while ago.

2
TrumpVoter1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Do not read too much into that

1
cjcivicx 1 point ago +1 / -0

Once you've pissed off the jury...

12
KiTA 12 points ago +15 / -3

Juries are full of people too stupid to get out of Jury duty

2
TrumpVoter1 2 points ago +2 / -0

That is a stupid comment and not representative of all jurors, just as its not representative of all people

5
chickeninoven 5 points ago +5 / -0

Lmao at the downvotes.

Some people are just chumps, I guess.

3
thunderstorm 3 points ago +4 / -1

Jury duty is one of the fundamental pillars that prop up the republic. The fact that it is somehow 'good' or 'smart' to get our of jury duty demonstrates that this entire republic is a joke.

1
deleted 1 point ago +1 / -0
1
AngryWriter 1 point ago +1 / -0

Jury duty should include a $450,000 payment as compensation for being separated from your family for the duration.

5
Jaybird91 5 points ago +5 / -0

I actually relish the opportunity to partake in our justice system’s most important cornerstone.

11
MAGAMOPAR 11 points ago +11 / -0

FREE KYLE!

8
highenergywinning 8 points ago +9 / -1

Shouldve objected

5
HeavyVetting 5 points ago +6 / -1

Whole trial is a case study of what happens when you barely object.

21
SylvanusThayer 21 points ago +21 / -0

This is great to watch and see how insidious prosecutors are against self defense claims. Must watch for any gun carrier.

5
Songofsixpence 5 points ago +5 / -0

Oh yeah for sure!

28
deleted 28 points ago +28 / -0
4
Blackrider 4 points ago +4 / -0

Rioters who would see you as a threat too.

25
Shure81 25 points ago +25 / -0

"His gun was smaller than yours WASN'T IT???"

2
deleted 2 points ago +2 / -0
9
deleted 9 points ago +9 / -0
2
BoomCannon 2 points ago +2 / -0

He is an idiot, but him playing that angle is exactly the type of shit that people will eat up. Because the weapon of war that Kyle had was big, black, and scary, and the little itty bitty hand cannon would be an acceptable substitute to nerf guns for kids.

1
deleted 1 point ago +1 / -0
5
MasterChef 5 points ago +5 / -0

Hes trying to bring up the scary ar-15 so much because it has a very negative connotation with it in the media. He's trying to get the cnn watching jurors to feel like Kyle is the big scary mass shooter that they're always told about without actually saying it.

5
chickeninoven 5 points ago +5 / -0

He didn't assume a proper shooting stance, DID HE?!?!?!

4
HeavyVetting 4 points ago +4 / -0

It would have only be fair to let the guy with a smaller gun shoot first, wouldn't it?

12
dldeuce 12 points ago +12 / -0

Does anyone recall if Rittenhouse was indicted or was he just charged by the DA? Watching this trial, I just can't imagine him getting indicted. No way would he have been indicted in Texas.

19
here2red 19 points ago +20 / -1

Rekieta Law is on point.

It would of good if Binder made his point ONCE. Keep repeating things over and over and people just tune out.

9
bill_in_texas 9 points ago +9 / -0

So you drove without a license on your way to your job? Yes.

So you drove without a license when you stopped at the gas station on your way to your job? Yes.

So you drove without a license when you left the gas station and continued on to your job? Yes.

So while you were in the parking lot of the swimming pool area, you did, in fact, have no driver's license. Yes.

And when you parked the car and got out, you, in fact, STILL did not have a driver's license? Yes.

4
ShyRipley 4 points ago +4 / -0

So obviously your propensity for driving without a license caused you to shoot people. I rest my case!

1
sgttoporbottoms 1 point ago +1 / -0

I am not sure about this at all but I think a learner’s permit in some states allows you to drive to your place of work without an accompanying adult

2
HeavyVetting 2 points ago +2 / -0

If he had a good point it could work in his favor. But most of the things he keeps repeating are irrelevant.

4
Bidensfishyfingers 4 points ago +4 / -0

He wanted a different answer. Didn’t get it.

5
DWAC 5 points ago +8 / -3

There is no redirect?! What the fuck?!

3
HeavyVetting 3 points ago +3 / -0

We're dealing with Mark "No redirect, no objections" Richards.

5
Bidensfishyfingers 5 points ago +5 / -0

If the cross hasn’t ruined your witness you don’t redirect.

Redirect opens up the potential for another cross, also you don’t necessarily know what your witness is going to say because it’s not as practiced and rehearsed as your direct.

2
DWAC 2 points ago +2 / -0

I understand. I think there were a few points that could be brought up during redirect. Keep it short and sweet.

1
Bidensfishyfingers 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah, I agree with you there were stuff you could have asked most importantly stressing that he only shot when he felt there was only that option (in response to the unarmed, only a pistol lines of questioning). But Kyle came off as sympathetic, and didn’t change his story, he survived cross, didn’t need to do anymore.

No need to risk an upset to win by a landslide when victory is already in the bag. Don’t think there was a “right or wrong”, just different lawyers different styles.

3
Random_Question_Guy 3 points ago +3 / -0

I thought they were just done for the day

34
CharlesDemar72 34 points ago +34 / -0

I would love to see this ADA chased by an angry mob and watch him break down decisions second by second.

9
Eagle-Eye 9 points ago +9 / -0

He'd be crying and crapping his pants like a baby.

14
FireannDireach 14 points ago +14 / -0

That bitch would scream for the police if someone like the pedo looked angrily at him.

9
Whitespace 9 points ago +9 / -0

I would LOVE to see it, but he opposes self defense, only mobs. He would be one of those people dragged out of their cars and beaten to death.

7
cjcivicx 7 points ago +7 / -0

He'd have pulled his pants down and raised his ass to the crowd, welcoming the onslaught of feet and pistols into his ass.

3
Cyberpunkd 3 points ago +12 / -9

These defense lawyers are fucking incompetent.

2
rob9 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think their plan is to let prosecution run into dead ends, ask questions three times and still get good answers from Kyle, etc.

I feel like it's currently working, but it's still reckless letting him lead and badger him like that. One wrong answer from Kyle, one answer which can be twisted, etc. and it's serious damage or game over.

1
Cyberpunkd 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah, I hope so. It seems like a BIG risk, especially with this prosecutor who seems like he's got something to prove (no pun intended). I SO hope he loses & Kyle wins. TBH, it isn't the best decision for a kid, or anyone, to be open carrying when there are these psycho leftist mobs around, but these people that came after him got exactly what they deserved.

1
rob9 1 point ago +1 / -0

TBH, it isn't the best decision for a kid, or anyone, to be open carrying when there are these psycho leftist mobs around, but these people that came after him got exactly what they deserved.

The events show that it was a brilliant decision, because otherwise he would be dead.

1
Cyberpunkd 1 point ago +1 / -0

For sure, but if he had not went there at all, he wouldn't be in court. IMO, the best decision is to just let these animals burn their own cities down.

1
rob9 1 point ago +1 / -0

But it's his city/community as well, so he should be praised to the highest degree for what he did. He stepped up to protect things and help people when even all the police did is impotently watch. (for the most part)

1
Cyberpunkd 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh, totally. The kid is a hero and deserves a medal. I'm just saying that putting oneself in that type of situation is a very high risk thing to do. These riots are usually in the downtown, urban areas, which are usually pretty ghetto. Let the stupid shits destroy where they live.

5
FLIBS 5 points ago +7 / -2

How so lawyer?

1
Cyberpunkd 1 point ago +1 / -0

There's a thing called objecting. I guess we'll see if the defense's approach pays off. Seems awfully risky.

2
Whitespace 2 points ago +2 / -0

Plenty of other lawyers are pointing out how aberrant their behavior was, letting their capital murder client get badgered like that.

0
thunderstorm 0 points ago +1 / -1

Which makes Kyle more sympathetic. The prosecutor has not been dealing in facts on self-defense. The prosecutor was boring and his only lively moments was when he was bullying the witness.

1
FLIBS 1 point ago +2 / -1

Tip.. All defense lawyers have their own way they would do it... It's an art not a science. So they would never agree.

1
Whitespace 1 point ago +1 / -0

Tip..I know that.

6
Jaybird91 6 points ago +6 / -0

Prosecutor did not look great there. The way he tries to reframe Kyle’s rationale in the moment just doesn’t ring true given the video evidence. He’s doing his best to ruin this kid’s life for political clout but I don’t see it.

And he’s getting what he really wants, which is the chance to become a household name, go on some talk shows, and get a book deal after the not guilty verdict comes in

13
ja391045 13 points ago +13 / -0

I think the defense is letting Binger go on and on. I think the more he talks the more he sees the jury's eyes glaze over. I mean, Binger hasn't made a good point yet. I'm biased of course, but it doesn't look like he's actually proving anything other than a 17 year old kid was in a shitty situation with shitty people. The defense can see the faces of the jury members, at least on my stream, I can't.

2
HyperCarbs 2 points ago +2 / -0

Binger hasn't made a good point yet.

How could he? Kyle has presented self-defense. The videos prove it. Binger is looking for an admission of intent.

16
bck- 16 points ago +16 / -0

Why? They let the prosecutor look like a retard

3
Apparition 3 points ago +3 / -0

it went on for long enough... it is also draining to the KID you're trying to protect.

1
Whitespace 1 point ago +1 / -0

Exactly. There is a line between not objecting too much and

They might as well not have been in the room.

1
deleted 1 point ago +1 / -0