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PepePinochet [S] 285 points ago +287 / -2

Karen holdout Forewoman requested (and was allowed) to take the jury instructions home

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Mainwar 164 points ago +164 / -0

that's no good

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IncredibleMrE1 181 points ago +182 / -1

We know who MSDNC's leaker is.

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The_Litehaus_Abides 100 points ago +101 / -1

How do these women always manage to get picked a jury foreman? How?

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Gunsareforfun 115 points ago +115 / -0

They volunteer for it knowing they can throw the case.

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Hawkman 21 points ago +21 / -0

It’s incredibly frustrating. It’s always the same shit.

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swifty123456 14 points ago +15 / -1

if i was in the jury room! i would put my foot down! listen here bitches! the prosecutes are corrupt! so there is no way in hell any of you can convince me to convict! i had my suspicions they where corrupt! but that fat fuck confirmed it! by claiming there is no left and right handed gun! that means at best he is retarded and doesnt know what he is talking about when it comes to guns and violence. at worst he is striaght up evil bastard liar! either way no argument those 2 made hold any water then!

so unles syou can prove to me that there are no sucj things as left and right handed guns you cant convince me without resoanble doubt kyle is innocent! now fuck off imma go sleep and let you guys fuck off and argue amonsgt eachother!

not interested in a blury video! because it cvame from that lying fat fuck!

so that karne can play forewoman all she wants, but i aint budging

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RusherOfDin 13 points ago +14 / -1

You'd playing into her hands. You'd get replaced with an alternate and there's a good chance that alternate would agree with her.

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WaxMyBallsBernie 7 points ago +7 / -0

i had my suspicions they where corrupt!

Removed from the jury room, sorry sir.

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ChuckedBeef 12 points ago +13 / -1

The whole jury system sucks. I can find WAAAY more people who think Kyle is innocent than idiots who think he is guilty of something, yet they somehow find insane political activists to plant on the jury. It's not representative of the opinions of society in general, it's whoever picks the jurors.

Same thing as whoever counts the votes.

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WiseOldOwl 5 points ago +5 / -0

Jury system does suck.

Now imagine being judged by Merrick Garland.

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eupraxia128 3 points ago +3 / -0

Exactly. They should just pick 12 random people (truly random) and require 8 votes to convict, anything less than 8 votes is innocent.

It's really not that hard to do.

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Qwenu 1 point ago +1 / -0

Are you not entertained?

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CommieCucker 86 points ago +95 / -9

They shouldn't even be allowed to vote.

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PKShadilay 34 points ago +40 / -6

19th ammendment was a mistake.

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IncredibleMrE1 16 points ago +20 / -4

This. The 19th Amendment needs to go.

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RiverRunnerVDB -11 points ago +18 / -29

You misspelled “breathe”.

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Whatyougotson 21 points ago +21 / -0

That escalated quickly

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Lord_Kristopf 5 points ago +5 / -0

Ya why would you skip straight past a good tarring and feathering? Lots of intermediate steps to consider (JK)

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CommieCucker 5 points ago +5 / -0

that's a bit of a step up

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NoFucksman -1 points ago +4 / -5

Found the neckbeard in moms basement

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OZ00MSTALLGEESE -2 points ago +2 / -4

What're you a queer?

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grassshrimp 72 points ago +72 / -0

Because they are loud and come off as know it all's while bullying others into compliance. Conservatives need to wake up to the reality that we are losing via our complacency.

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Rakkasan91b 27 points ago +27 / -0

I've seen the exact same thing on jury duty as well.

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TabbyKat 10 points ago +10 / -0

Me too

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FormerGraveheart 3 points ago +3 / -0

The movie with Pauly Shore?

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The_Litehaus_Abides 14 points ago +14 / -0

Yeah, they should've stood up to her. It's just incredible that this keeps happening.

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Brokenmatrix2021 6 points ago +6 / -0

This ☝ Always this. Smh.

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ScottyGunn 35 points ago +35 / -0

They badger everyone until most give up. I was on a jury once and that is exactly what happened.

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Armatron 9 points ago +9 / -0

Fishmouth not visible through mask.

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xClue 34 points ago +35 / -1

Jury instructions are on the record. It’s not privileged information.

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PepePedebone 16 points ago +16 / -0

You're right, but they're as confusing as if biden gave them.

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Jamahawk 3 points ago +3 / -0

It wasn't Biden bad.

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RusherOfDin 5 points ago +5 / -0

The defense lawyer said he was concerned they were going to look up every legal term online in order to interpret the meaning of the otherwise clearly written instructions to suit their purposes.

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victory2024 6 points ago +6 / -0

Exactly. Jurors aren't supposed to do anything regarding the case while at home. So letting them "study" the instructions once they leave the deliberation room is a huge fail.

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Tramsec 84 points ago +86 / -2

Anyone who has already held out this long is likely willing to stick it out at least a few more days.

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iamherefortheluls 80 points ago +83 / -3

according to Posobeic, at this point they are fine with a mistrial. Officially doesn't exonerate Kyle and the longer they stretch this out, the more sketchy it will look if the judge decides to declare a mistrial after long jury deliberation.

If he does that, question becomes: "if there was impropriety, why didn't you shut down the trial earlier? oh you waited for the jury to decide and than called it a mistrial? must have only done so because you didn't like the verdict."

Judge should have thrown the case out on literally the first plausible mis-step the prosecutor did. But the right must always take the high road, always play in good faith, always give leeway.

The left knows how to exploit the leeway to eke out win after win.

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iamherefortheluls 37 points ago +37 / -0

'So you lied, cheated and broke half a dozen rules for our judicial process... I am now going to protect judicial process by not enforcing the legal penalties for your actions, sitting back and praying you lose fairly'

this approach is bullshit.

And yes, he can and should have called declared it a mistrial with prejudice which would have protected Kyle from any state charges on this matter.

Mistrial is the wrong thing for us,

no its not. You catch them cheating, you slap them the fuck out of court. That's literally the rules and the legal process. By not doing that, the judge has now tarnished that process.

He literally is normalizing prosecutors cheating, faking evidence, lying. Setting precedence that will make it harder for other judges to punish that same cheating.

You cannot win this kind of war by constantly retreating on every fucking issue.

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Hawkman 3 points ago +3 / -0

The person above you meant a mistrial from the jury I believe, or a mistrial without prejudice. Judge absolutely should’ve shut them the fuck down ages ago.

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AllAmericanPT 10 points ago +11 / -1

if this was declared a mistrial with prejudice, what would that do dor rittenhouse’s ability to sue media outlets for defamation?

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My2Cents 6 points ago +6 / -0

Biden's wingman AG likely would re-try on federal charges.

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FreeFlorida 6 points ago +7 / -1

Who cares that's just the cherry on top, his freedom should be of no question and needs his full attention

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Jonah_Kyle 8 points ago +11 / -3

No. That judge is as rattled as a junkie on his fifth straight day without a fix. He absolutely looks BESIEGED by the press. Robert Barnes is pisses as you can imagine.

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DWAC 1 point ago +3 / -2

Robert Barnes is a stupid, fat cocksucker who should shut his trap.

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Brokenmatrix2021 5 points ago +5 / -0

Correct. We are definitely guilty of fighting to preserve. Hit the head on the nail. But our way of fighting ain't working. We haven't adjusted tactics at all therefore we continuously get dry humped. Because of this apathy we'll preserve nothing in the end. Every day we lose something to these scumbags. Kyle should not even be in custody. The judge is great. But why hasn't he called a mistrial ? The prosecution is a disgrace. We all know this is about the 2nd amendment. The whole thing is a sham. The judge knows it. Why not a mistrial with prejudice ? If Kyle is convicted what are we prepared to do about it ?

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RBK2 2 points ago +2 / -0

Mistrial is the wrong thing for us, unless judge can declare it with prejudice (can he?)

Absolutely. The question is, will he?

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IvIA6A 13 points ago +15 / -2

He should have tossed it immediately instead of getting into it with the media. The prosecution now is probably glad it's going to be a mistrial because they fucked up so badly with their case. It would be seen as a victory for binger.

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iamherefortheluls 10 points ago +10 / -0

exactly. These people have spent a year and a half torturing people over a fucking misdemeanor - people on the right think they can still afford to play this with kid's gloves.

punish these motherfuckers for every single mis-step. Take every shot, go out of your way to mess up their day at every opportunity.

What the judge is doing here is posturing - not enforcing the rules, not defending the law, he is trying to put on a fucking display.

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Geeee 8 points ago +8 / -0

According to Posobeic, at this point they are fine with a mistrial. Officially doesn't exonerate Kyle and the longer they stretch this out, the more sketchy it will look if the judge decides to declare a mistrial after long jury deliberation.

The second part makes absolutely no sense. Rittenhouse, for once, is actually winning in the court of public opinion. Leftists are staring in disbelief at how little the case actually matches what they were told about it. A good chunk of Reddit is furious.

If Karen could read the room, she'd vote to acquit

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Somniac 6 points ago +6 / -0

The problem is the Karen as a forewoman is provably not going to allow a mistrial. She is going to hold the other jurists hostage until Rittenhouse is convicted of something, anything. The request to the judge for a mistrial because the jury is hung has go through her, if I’m not mistaken.

Otherwise, this is in the judge’s hands and he has already shown he isn’t willing to do jack about actually pushing a mistrial.

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iamherefortheluls 5 points ago +5 / -0

not going to allow a mistrial.

the judge had several separate reasons to declare a mistrial already. At one point they introduced evidence he previously forbade (first case of him shouting at the prosecutor in court) - 1. They withheld evidence from the defense - 2.

Not to mention the tons of lying the prosecutor has done.

If this was a lefty judge and a BLM shooter on trial, this case would have been tossed a dozen times over.

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yodayoda 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's easy to win. Just hold out. Don't fold to the Karen bitch. Sit there until doomsday.

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aceshigh34 1 point ago +1 / -0

u don’t need a mistrial to have a hung jury

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Krat 4 points ago +4 / -0

All that does is tell other commies they can fuck around in courts and not face consequences while still getting all the rewarda

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iamherefortheluls 3 points ago +3 / -0

exactly. Chauvin trial went exactly the same way btw - prosecutor blatantly violated judge's ruling about which evidence would not be admitted. Got a stern wag of the finger. Chauvin is now in prison and he is not getting an appeal. Jury was full of cowards and activists. Right-wing judge.

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BlaineBug 55 points ago +57 / -2

Look around at all of the insane people that live amongst us and think that we're insane for living the lives we do. It's not that difficult to assume the worst in just about every scenario.

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MAGAMAN4EVA 12 points ago +13 / -1

What's bad for them is a guilty verdict won't mean anything when the judge declares a mistrial. An acquittal means he's free for ever. Heads I win, tails I don't lose.

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c_programmer 18 points ago +19 / -1

Schroeder is a paper tiger who only talks like a good judge when nothing is on the line. He is currently kicking the can down the road because if they acquit then the heat is off him, a mistrial becomes a moot point. But if they convict I don't think he'll become any less of a coward or take this whole thing any more seriously than he has so far.

Binger is well connected in Kenosha and this case is highly politically volatile. If he's too scared to do the right thing before a jury verdict he will also be too scared to do so after a jury conviction when the heat is an order of magnitude higher. He has also spoken at length over how he thinks juries are exceptionally smart so that will be his excuse... He'll put his feelings aside and trust that his misconduct couldn't have poisoned them. He'll sentence Kyle to life and maybe privately hope he wins his appeal (which he has standing for, but that's a crapshoot).

In all likelihood we'll have a hung jury and he will dismiss the case without prejudice. At this point I'll take it... The defense will start in a much stronger position on the next try.

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IvIA6A 1 point ago +1 / -0

They will likely try to hammer the provocation angle again, and if that drone evidence isn't thrown out for being altered, another Karen juror could derail it again.

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c_programmer 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yes, it is definitely a risk. All trials have that risk. But they have the following in their favor next time

  1. They know about the provocation angle, it won't pop up during the last day of trial.
  2. They have all the evidence and can impeach the "hocus pocus out of focus" image with a proper expert. They might get it thrown out.
  3. All the states trainwreck testimony is still admissible -- Grosskreutz doesn't get to undo his statements, neither does the coroner. Nothing Kyle said the first time is useful to the state
  4. They now understand the importance of vetting the jury and keeping that one Karen off. Commentators from the peanut gallery (ie the Rekita Law stream) saw this coming. They need to immediately strike any white woman from the social upper class, given the politics of the area it's just what needs to be done (at least according to Robert Barnes).
  5. The curfew and gun charge are gone forever. That was a significant part of their foundation.

None of this is ideal but I don't see any way they'd start a second trial in a worse (or even equal) footing to the first.

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Rage1234 9 points ago +9 / -0

Exactly, all that matters here is how big the Civil suit will be against the msm.

Kyle will walk, either by the judge or the jury.

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IAbsolutelyDare 3 points ago +4 / -1

Exactly, all that matters here is how big the Civil suit will be against the msm.

Misread that as Civil War and got my hopes up massively.

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Jonah_Kyle 1 point ago +1 / -0

If a hung jury is called, he has no recourse to sue. (I assume he won't be convicted, which would also mean he has no recourse.)

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AngryPoop 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sandman wasnt convicted of anything and sued successfully. Not sure that I am following the logic here

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Rage1234 1 point ago +1 / -0

I actually don't think the judge would allow it. He would dismiss with prej.

I dont think a hung jury precludes a civil suit tho.

Not a lawyer so just guessing.

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Rage1234 1 point ago +1 / -0

Bless your handshake.

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GoldwaterVoter 6 points ago +6 / -0

Not if done "with prejudice", as I understand.

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Jonah_Kyle 6 points ago +6 / -0

Kyle is spooked which is why he instructed his lawyer to offer one without prejudice, allowing for a retrial. I assume he will then get the offer from Robert Barnes to let the big boys handle his retrial, and he would best take it.

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Boom2cannon 9 points ago +9 / -0

This is not true though. Many cases take multiple days of deliberation. However, I would’ve expected this to be over by now.

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xClue 3 points ago +3 / -0

You know that’s grossly incorrect in nearly every jury trial, right? Taking a long time is a good indication for the defense.

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xClue 8 points ago +8 / -0

Bullshit cases are brought by prosecutors all the time. ALL the time.

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Jonah_Kyle 2 points ago +3 / -1

The reasons that this is taking so long, and Robert Barnes has been on top of this, is because there are Karens on the jury who NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN SEATED, and in fact, Barnes believes one of them is the jury foreman, which makes it statistically IMPOSSIBLE for her to change to not guilty. A hung jury is the best we can hope for at this point.

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yodayoda 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not if it's blatantly open-and-shut case and you have 100 fucking videos from every angle possible. Not it it's obvious as hell that the case should have never been brought.

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spezisacuckold 10 points ago +10 / -0

Is there any maximum length a jury can hold out for? It seems like there should be.

I’d think if the answer is “No” then how is that not a run around of the concept of having the right to a speedy trial? One belligerent activist could hypothetically hold up a jury for decades.

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TurdFerguson 14 points ago +14 / -0

Eventually the judge would declare a hung jury. But that’s based on judges decision made after a jury says they can’t come to an agreement.

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Gunslinger1776 7 points ago +7 / -0

Our founding fathers had much foresight, but I don’t think they ever anticipated social credit score; for some the drive to score social points outweighs doing what is ultimately morally/ethically right.

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xClue 9 points ago +9 / -0

It’s no different than dealing with a mob. Witch trials. It’s the exact same thing. The problem is that the progressive mindset is built and structured around compliance, hivemind, coordination, etc. just like the Borg.

The weakness of conservatism is that we value independence and freedom. Those things don’t bode well for sticking together these days. “Who are you to lead us?” kind of a mindset. “I just wanna be left alone.” There aren’t any people willing to risk their livelihoods to protect freedom and justice.

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KekistanPM 3 points ago +3 / -0

At least some of our founding fathers also said the system will only work if this is a God-fearing Christian nation.

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Deplorable_Badger 3 points ago +3 / -0

Then we can find out who the Karen plant is and discover the Soros connection.

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Jonah_Kyle 5 points ago +5 / -0

No Soros connection needed. Barnes laid out the specific jury profile of the Karen that is likely holding things up. An upper class woman who disdains the working class and is hip to communistic social issues, and has the characteristics of an arrogant, snobbish bitch typical of such class.

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spezisacuckold 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thanks! I'll readily admit I don't know a lot about how court proceedings work.

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jamrs 5 points ago +5 / -0

Because the juror would be sentencing themselves to essentially prison.

I think this is good for us. People won't find him guilty and send him to prison for the rest of their life just to go home early - but if you are maliciously finding him guilty then you will probably wear down over time.

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Tramsec 3 points ago +3 / -0

Well the judge can rule a mistrial at any point so that's probably the escape hatch if the foreman won't declare a hung jury.

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Boom2cannon 2 points ago +2 / -0

I may be wrong, but I don’t think there is. But in any case, who would be activist enough to wake up every day for months or years to go sit in a court and be bored as fuck?

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spezisacuckold 4 points ago +4 / -0

You may be surprised. This is the rabid left we're talking about.

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Boom2cannon 1 point ago +1 / -0

True. Lmao

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CaptainHempbeard 8 points ago +9 / -1

At this point I'm thinking they're unemployed and are doing this to secure a paycheck.

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ThrolyHD 8 points ago +8 / -0

Jury duty pay like 3 dollar per day lol.... I've done it before recently

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Aletheia 4 points ago +4 / -0

Was posted yesterday that it was 17 a day in Wisconsin plus mileage.

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Abkmd011 1 point ago +1 / -0

Capital murder cases pay more at least where I live.

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CaptainHempbeard 1 point ago +2 / -1

Still more than someone who is unemployed. Plus I'm sure they're feeding them.

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Captinhowdy45 1 point ago +1 / -0

With the extra benefits of unemployment. I would have been making more money the past year. Than I have being continually employed. Through this scamdemic. It's bullshit but a unfortunate reality.

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Jonah_Kyle 3 points ago +3 / -0

Only ones like that on the jury is more likely to be working class. The Karens on the jury are most probably upper class, worth a few million or at least high hundred thousands, with social justice communist views. Robert Barnes was particularly detailed on the jurists who were scheduled for selection before he got fired from the defense team, and has laid out his reasoning throughout the trial.

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RicFlir 6 points ago +6 / -0

I wonder how the upcoming Thanksgiving holiday will play into this; who’s going to buckle first so they can stuff their faces with turkey?

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ppalgansaek 7 points ago +7 / -0

Karen can't have Thanksgiving because COVID and indigenous people. But everyone else will want to go home.

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laneybelle 3 points ago +3 / -0

Was just thinking the same thing.

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xClue 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah and I can assure you that it’s 1 or 2 people that want to find him guilty that are holding out.

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Redpillmachine 11 points ago +11 / -0

Suspect…maybe they want to show an attorney for help on getting a guilty verdict

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Jonah_Kyle 4 points ago +4 / -0

Wouldn't be surprised, though not in any official capacity. If ANY whiff of this occurred the judge would kick that person off the jury himself in a heartbeat, and that attorney would not be practicing law any more. Even in an unofficial capacity is enough to warrant investigation.

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dizzle_izzle 5 points ago +5 / -0

She is going to try to get some faggot from Reddit like legal eagle or some asshole from the DNC to give them a rebuttal. I just hope someone can catch her in the act.

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PaineThomas 4 points ago +4 / -0

I used to like Legal Eagle, then he went full fucking woke. He thinks he can become President.

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fakewhiterage 4 points ago +4 / -0

Im glad others hate that dumb faggot as much as I do

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Magabirdlady2 2 points ago +2 / -0

Isn’t it good that’s is is taking a few days in the long run. Remember OJ trial and some other high profile cases were always like a few hours and guilty or not guilty. Obviously jurors are not all on the same page, so should be good right? IDK.

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Loki_was_right 45 points ago +47 / -2

Robert Barnes was right about the defense screwing up by not having a more rigorous selection process for the jury. I pray that Kyle doesn't have to pay the price for their mistakes.

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PorchLightOn 15 points ago +15 / -0

Me too. Barnes said that the polling done by Richard Baris in Kenosha showed that 2/3 of the people polled thought that Kyle should be convicted. That's where the jury pool comes from. It seems pretty naive to me to not pay a lot of attention to who ends up on the jury. Barnes said the defense team didn't believe the polling results.

Baris is a good pollster, and he's also experienced in jury selection. They should have listened to what he found.

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vicentezo04 7 points ago +7 / -0

Despite the massive pretrial prejudice, they still could have reduced the risk of what is happening here if they screened out the egregious MSNBC Karens. That's what pisses me off.

Many of the people who are against Kyle are simply misinformed. Show them the facts and they'll acquit. It's only the soyboys and wine and cat moms that you have to worry about.

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Joeret 2 points ago +2 / -0

Haven’t they been shown facts this entire trial?

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sanitaryshaver 7 points ago +7 / -0

Showing facts to a liberal Karen is like trying to make braids out of sawdust and as effective as whispering into a flushing toilet.

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ppalgansaek 8 points ago +8 / -0

I was really surprised by the speed of seating this jury. In my own experience on a jury, it took several days and at least 100+ potential jurors and this was for a not high-profile case.

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Somniac 7 points ago +7 / -0

It took several days to seat the jury in the Arbury case. Loads of questions, individual interviews, etc. They did the Rittenhouse jury selection basically in one day.

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YouKnowWhatItIs87 1 point ago +1 / -0

Do you think it’s because our side often blindly assumes that most people are honest and good natured? I used to think that, now I realize maybe not a majority, but a lot are brainwashed and probably influenced by media especially in this high profile case.

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RocksCanOnlyWait 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's more that they trust jurors are answering the questions honestly - especially about presuming innocence as the starting point.

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YouKnowWhatItIs87 2 points ago +2 / -0

Right, that’s what I meant, should’ve just said jury intimidation without being so bombastic. But my point was our side likely would be honest, the other not so much or they’re on our side just pussies convinced by the intimidation or group think. Idk, Kyle needs to walk free it’s obvious to everyone.

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Brucesky420 1 point ago +2 / -1

He was way too salty about being left out, but he was 100% correct about that. Anyone could have told you that the jury selection was the most crucial aspect of this because the case is so political

Instead Barnes went around talking mad shit so no one paid attention to what he was saying because he just sounded like a sour manchild

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Loki_was_right 5 points ago +5 / -0

I'd be salty too if I had been helping build a dream team to help the defense provide a robust case for both Kyle and the right of self defense, only to be cut out of the case right before jury selection process. I'm not sure how you can call a seasoned lawyer who was paying for all of his time out of his own pocket a manchild, but that's none of my concern.

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Jonah_Kyle 1 point ago +2 / -1

He will have to pay the price. The jury will most assuredly hang. There is zero percent chance of acquittal at this point.

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aceshigh34 2 points ago +2 / -0

u don’t know that so stfu

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DWAC 38 points ago +39 / -1

The media and Marxists (but I repeat myself) are chasing these people around and the fucking judge is allowing them to take jury instructions home. What's the worst thing that could happen?

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Space_Force 21 points ago +21 / -0

The instructions are public knowledge, they read them at the trail. Jury should have been sequestered.

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DWAC 3 points ago +3 / -0

I understand. My point is that there have already been problems and allowing this opens the door to other problems. Like taking home notes that somehow end up in the hands of someone outside of the courtroom or conversations at home with a spouse or relatives.

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Space_Force 3 points ago +3 / -0

100% agree with that. Jury notes and things of that sort are certainly sensitive info that should only be in the hands of the jury. The jury instructions, however, I think are the least of the issues with this clown car of a trial. Given the national spotlight and hyper-partisan nature of the case one would think the jury ought to be sequestered, not only for the validity/credibility of the jury, but for their safety, as MSNBC has clearly demonstrated is at risk, especially with terrorists like Antifa, BLM and the FBI trying to set a match to this powder keg.

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fakewhiterage 2 points ago +2 / -0

I mean you can find the jury instructions online….

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foreverzer0 12 points ago +12 / -0

The jury instructions being taken home really isn't that big of a deal at face value. It is what that indicates is what makes it ugly. It means that there is some hardcore holdout who wants to spend their free time trying to pick apart word meanings in order to try and twist language to their needs. i.e. a Lefty activist

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Jonah_Kyle 3 points ago +3 / -0

A hung jury, most probably, unless the Karens horrifically wear down the normies to settle for a guilty verdict on something.

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n00tch 19 points ago +20 / -1

Commie infil.. shocker.

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bannedninjabit 8 points ago +8 / -0

You knew that there would be that one, and that they would try and jump in the
spot as the lead juror. Then her and her commie allies just need to group think
everyone else into a guilty verdict. They know that if there is a guilty verdict than
no police or other patriots would ever dare try to protect any city ever again. If
Kyle gets off, then it puts a wrench into their riot plans for the 2022 election,
as everyone and their Grambo will be standing on all the corners of every street,
armed, if the left wants to try and do something stupid.

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DWAC 10 points ago +10 / -0

Are you fucking kidding me?!

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Krat 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is what happens when people do nothing and let the commies take command

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Moriartis 102 points ago +105 / -3

Smart money is that it's the holdout taking home the instructions to have her commie friends on the internet help her interpret them so she can convince the rest of the jury of his guilt.

Gonna be a hung jury.

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danneskjold 60 points ago +60 / -0

The jury instructions are already on the internet.

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AnEndgamePawn 44 points ago +44 / -0

Yeah they were read out loud in court which was televised, they're not exactly state secrets

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Dingus 35 points ago +35 / -0

But then how are we supposed to make shit up and then worry about it?

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biginjapan6969 7 points ago +7 / -0

She’s not supposed to be reading about the trial on the internet but she can now google the law of self defense in wisconsin

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DarkestB4ThaDon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thought the jury isn’t supposed to work on the case or discuss the case in any way without being locked away in the jury room?

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biginjapan6969 3 points ago +3 / -0

The jury instructions are publicly released. This is a woman who wants to karensplain the jury instructions or convince herself why she can consneed.

Right now my best bet is that shes trying to swing a lesser charge as appeasement.

Reckless endangerment 10-15 years.

Unless bruce schroeder is a corrupt plant - theres no way it doesn't result in a mistrial.

But the media optic implication is that a biased judge saved kyles ass and he knows that too. So he's just sitting there with his thumb up his ass hoping that the jury will come up with something.

The danger is a lesser charge being convicted and then the judge throwing his hands up and saying oh well, whoopsie doo, mistakes were made but the jury of 12 convicted this young man, and I hope he wins his appeal.

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reee777 9 points ago +9 / -0

Okay, so she's not just a rabid SJW, she's a retard too?

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AbrahamLincoln 13 points ago +13 / -0

Rabid SJW is a subset of retard.

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ppalgansaek 6 points ago +6 / -0

Insert "They're the same picture" meme here.

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PurpleOstrich 3 points ago +3 / -0

She's a dumb broad. What do you think? There are only a few decent women left.

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talltellmanson 1 point ago +1 / -0

What's the difference?

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Apparition 16 points ago +16 / -0

her stonetear moment on reddit

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MAGAMAN4EVA 12 points ago +12 / -0

stonetear?

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IAbsolutelyDare 26 points ago +26 / -0

One of The_Donald's shining hours! An IT goon going by the name Stonetear asked ON REDDIT how to change the addresses and metadata of some dubiously legal emails. Mentioned his client was "a very VIP". Goon was traced from details in his Reddit profile, and turned out to be working for none other than Hillary fucking Clinton herself, and the emails in question were, yep, those emails.

It was glorious.

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BeefChucker 14 points ago +14 / -0

Just a reminder he had no security clearance and posted on a public how to destroy evidence of improper handling of classified information and faced zero consequences

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Jaybird91 8 points ago +8 / -0

Dude that was incredible I remember that

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Apparition 5 points ago +5 / -0

Hillary's IT guy that took to Reddit to ask how to scrub emails

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AbrahamLincoln 14 points ago +14 / -0

And when she comes in tomorrow spouting bullshit, hopefully the rest of the jurors tell her to fuck off.

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slag 9 points ago +10 / -1

her commie friends on the internet help her interpret them

If that's shown/proven, isn't she out as a juror?

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kennedyc5217 15 points ago +15 / -0

Won’t matter, with chauvin they had black jurors going on social saying they lied during the selection process just so they’d get chosen and convict him. They openly let their political activism poison jury pools and nothing will be done to them

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slag 7 points ago +7 / -0

That all becomes fodder for appeal (DC jurists did the same thing actually). "during" deliberations, judge wields power. this judge is a bit of a pussy though, although he kicked out MSNBC for fucking with the jury.

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Random_Question_Guy 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think his patience is getting thin

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BlaineBug 8 points ago +8 / -0

How many times have I heard "we have it all" and yet nothing happens. Expect LESS from now on, your expectations of freedom, liberty, and fair trials are too high!

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slag 8 points ago +8 / -0

I mean, chauvin is the new model for justice. however, if karen is caught discussing the trial, I am pretty sure she is kicked off and gagged while alt is brought in. could be held in contempt (prolly not). she could of course discuss it with her beta cuck husband (if she's that type), where comms are privileged, and noone could ever know/prove it. Sounds desperate to me.

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BlaineBug 2 points ago +2 / -0

What sounds desperate?

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slag 4 points ago +4 / -0

It sounds like someone is desperate to find something to justify their denial of reality; taking home the instructions for an additional homework review does not sound like a confident move. Looking for daddy (the State) to give them a way out. Sounds like hold out is trying to defend their bias and is failing. So typical bullshit, trying to weasel around the wording. As the defense said in their opposition to taking the instructions home, this can turn into dictionary games.

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BlaineBug 1 point ago +1 / -0

Are these instructions more difficult to understand than Ikea furniture assembly or something?

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BlaineBug 2 points ago +2 / -0

That includes Trump then. We caught them, we have it all, the best is yet to come, etc. etc. etc.

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DarkestB4ThaDon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Trust the plan

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BlaineBug 1 point ago +1 / -0

In all honesty I don't believe any of the "positive" rhetoric I hear out of anyone.

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45FortheWin 5 points ago +5 / -0

This is my suspicion, too.

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AZ-is-the-key 13 points ago +13 / -0

I could see dragging this out making the groups outside bigger

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Zepp87 9 points ago +9 / -0

Yeah we are getting near the weekend... if they announce it tomorrow evening I think the entire area is extra fucked.

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Boom2cannon 11 points ago +11 / -0

You’re acting like BLM and Antifa have jobs…

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1776Widowmaker 5 points ago +5 / -0

They have to wait for their allowances from their parents lol..

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Headybro420 4 points ago +4 / -0

Tax payer slush funds via Soros NGO’s

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alfredbester 5 points ago +5 / -0

This whole manipulative media/government monster is really becoming intolerable. They don't ever stop pushing. Ever. I thought we had until just after they steal the midterms and install Beto in Texas, but maybe we won't make it that long. You're right. The longer the jury is out, the more the tension builds. Something's going to pop.

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Jonah_Kyle 4 points ago +4 / -0

Probably not going to happen in Texas. They caught the fraudsters just in time and have made many inroads in preventing the shenanigans that occurred in Houston and Dallas to a limited degree, and now there are too many redpilled legal first and second generation Latinos to make up the rest of the difference.

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DarkestB4ThaDon 3 points ago +3 / -0

You’d think BLM wouldnt care about some whites getting killed because they decided to FAFO and would be organizing around the other trial in Georgia… you know where an actual black guy was killed… but that would require logic.. and BLM stands for Basic Logic Missing

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Fordheartskav 8 points ago +8 / -0

it's always open season on commies. You just have to be willing to spend a few years in prison for it

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Krat 3 points ago +3 / -0

Your terms are acceptable

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Viewer01 8 points ago +8 / -0

Odds are one of the jury is tampered with and is going to capitulate tomorrow so everyone can be nice and pissed off Friday night.

I imagine the ideal is a mistrial for the left or acquittal on a Friday so alll the retards can rage.

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xzars_folly 2 points ago +2 / -0

It could be brilliant. It takes days to weeks for the Big Lefitst elites to organize a "protest." By pushing things a few more days, its screws up a lot of their planning and organization.

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Knollsit 108 points ago +108 / -0

What the fuck are they deliberating at this stage? It's cut and dry self defense. Some wine mom is def holding out.

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DinosOnNoahsArk 30 points ago +30 / -0

There are what, 6 charges? They could be NOT GUILTY on 5 of them, and arguing about the least critical charge.

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slag 31 points ago +31 / -0

least critical charge

Still 10 or 12 years in prison, I hear. disgraceful.

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UpTrump 8 points ago +8 / -0

+5 years for weapons enhancement

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Jamahawk 19 points ago +19 / -0

I thought a weapon enhancement gave a bonus on attack and damage rolls.

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Amaroq64 5 points ago +5 / -0

You're thinking of an enhancement bonus, which can go up to +5! Though enhancement bonuses and weapon abilities together can add up to +10.

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Slugbert 5 points ago +5 / -0

AR-15 +5 Holy Defender

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Jamahawk 3 points ago +3 / -0

+5 Holy Pedo-bane AR-15

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__I_dindu__nufin_ 2 points ago +2 / -0

ITS NOT FAIR TO THE CRIMINAL TRYING TO RAPE YOU, BIGOT

STOP ENHANCING YOUR WEAPONS, KEEP THEM SHITTY REEEEEEEEEEEE

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slag 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, branca keeps pointing that out. fffffff

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Boom2cannon 9 points ago +9 / -0

Could be the other way around too. Who fucking knows. This whole trial is a fucking witch hunt hoax. Fuck the left.

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BunnyPicnic 8 points ago +8 / -0

Which would be????? What charges could be possibly be guilty of?

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Brobold 9 points ago +9 / -0

Shooting pedophiles is illegal apparently.

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alfredbester 7 points ago +7 / -0

drooling "He crossed state lines with a machine gun!"

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BunnyPicnic 6 points ago +6 / -0

But he didn't. The gun was registered in Wisconsin.

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__I_dindu__nufin_ 3 points ago +3 / -0

He's a good white male kid who defended himself against violent Democrat rioters who were also pedos and woman beaters, and stopped another Democrat illegally possessing a gun, which they say can't happen

It's obvious.

Literally none of the facts of this case can be allowed to breach the normie brainwashing-bubble. They just can't. Every aspect of this whole thing is a huge red-pill loose-thread waiting to be pulled and start the whole thing unraveling.

That's why it's all grinding to a halt.

The people that control EVERYTHING can't make this come out the way they want, so it's all just grinding to an excruciatingly slow halt.

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Jkend0740 2 points ago +2 / -0

My best guess is the reckless endangerment charge involving Richie McGinnis. Shooting Rosenbaum put McGinnis in the line of fire. It’s kind of like accidentally shooting through your neighbor house during a home invasion. You have to know where the bullet will travel to avoid injuring a 3rd party.

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_Cabal_ 12 points ago +12 / -0

How can he be simultaneously guilty of reckless endangerment in commission of justified self-defense? If self-defense is justified, reckless endangerment seems null and void by necessity.

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Amaroq64 7 points ago +7 / -0

Welcome to being a gun owner in America. When shooting in self defense:

  • You must believe you are about to be killed or greatly harmed.
  • You must be the innocent party.
  • Your response must be reasonable based on the threat.
  • The threat must be immediate.
  • You cannot escape or retreat.

You also have to follow other certain rules, such as...making sure there's no-one behind your target.

Basically you have to jump through a bunch of hoops and do it perfectly, and if you slip up, you go to prison.

Kyle handled it like a god, and he even missed the black dude. He's pretty damned lucky his case is so "cut and dry", and yet they even still have these bullshit arguments of whether he "needed" to shoot, whether he "needed to be there" (must be the innocent party, cannot provoke and then shoot, etc).

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unplugger3214 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yeah fuck that shit, next time one of you guys shoot, if no one saw it, bury it and shut up. If it got caught on camera, run to the Rockys and never let them get you.

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BunnyPicnic 6 points ago +6 / -0

I mean, the only shots that connected hit people that were attacking Kyle. You can't say he was reckless. He didn't fire straight into the air like ziminski.

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Jaybird91 5 points ago +5 / -0

That’s why it’s likely a source of debate. Some Karen hates the fact that this kid is going to walk.

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biginjapan6969 3 points ago +3 / -0

They’re arguing about grosskreutz would be my bet. They asked for the grosskreutz interview to incident footage. They didn’t ask for Huber footage.

Karen has consneeded life in prison. Someone remind her about reasonable doubt being the standard. There’s no such thing as reasonable suspicion.

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Frog_Anne 1 point ago +1 / -0

I thought the judge instructed them that if they found him innocent of the bigger charges (murder of Pedo), then the smaller charges were automatically acquitted. So if they find he did shoot Pedo in self defense, then the endangerment charge goes away. Did I misunderstand? Or maybe they're trying to compromise to get Karen to give in. Which they shouldn't, because he's innocent.

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MagaDevildog2 5 points ago +5 / -0

only 5 charges the 6th which was the gun possession was dropped Rekieta law breakdown of minor in possession charge

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Zelda 4 points ago +4 / -0

I thought they were instructed that if he was not guilty of the first charge to disregard all the lesser charges.

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Krat 18 points ago +18 / -0

Some karen can't let Kyle go and wants to see some kind of punishment but the case is kind of all or nothing

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Jonah_Kyle 7 points ago +7 / -0

Exactly. ANY guilty verdict, or a hung jury, will be enough for the communists to declare Kyle guilty, let off on a technicality. Most notably, he will lose any chance he has of a lawsuit in civil court. If he is fully acquitted he would be worth billions in a year or two, but nothing if it's not a full acquittal.

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2cor517 8 points ago +8 / -0

What if it is the wine Mom holding the line while the rest of the jury are a bunch of cowards who want to say guilty?

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xzars_folly 2 points ago +2 / -0

Doesn't this work they need only 1 person not agreeing for the jury to come back not guilty? Beyond a reasonable doubt means all 12 must vote guilty. This means if one person they can ignore them?

Which would mean more likely if they are dragging it out, one person is stubbornly refusing to vote guilty and they are taking their time to try and pressure the person into convicting.

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Seenev 79 points ago +79 / -0

The jury must be retarded to need more than 5 seconds of deliberation.

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ccxn 70 points ago +70 / -0

It could just be one retard.

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MAK90 58 points ago +58 / -0

1 activist

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RonPaulWasRight 15 points ago +15 / -0

One bought and sold activist. They weren't identifying jurors for their health, after all.

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alicelookingglass 8 points ago +8 / -0

same thing

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2cor517 3 points ago +3 / -0

or 11

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IvIA6A 9 points ago +10 / -1

The speculation is the one hold out is the foreman. I wonder if nothing can be done to get them removed or at least let the judge know they won't change their mind and to declare mistrial and stop wasting everyone's time.

Smells like Karen is angling for a book deal.

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kilr0y 3 points ago +3 / -0

Fore-Karen is probably an activist who has her mind made up from the start.

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PureBloodedSuperStr8 68 points ago +70 / -2

This is what happens when you give a millennial wine "mom," a little bit of power. They think they're king turd of shit mountain. FACT: I don't know, and neither does anyone else, if it's a Karen holding out on the (obvious) acquittal, but cmon....cmon..........cmon pede

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formersenatorbiden69 53 points ago +63 / -10

This is what happens when you give ANY WOMAN a little bit of power.

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nds19 20 points ago +25 / -5

Fuckin based. Women= not natural leaders

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Ilanna 9 points ago +10 / -1

I'll go with not all women are natural leaders. My Mom retired from the AF as a full bird Colonel and could have gone on to General, except she knew the political shit that went on in the Pentagon and wanted nothing to do with it. She knew emotion had no place in her decisions and never let it sway her. 20+ years and she was always successful and well liked in her posts because she made level headed decisions, not ones that swerved based on politics, the news, that time of the month, etc.

I'll also say, the house was run in a very similar manner, lol. Always clean, efficient, etc. In truth, I love my Mom. She did a great job raising me and I have a lot to be thankful for. She was never a lenient Mom, but she was always loving.

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JesusTheOnlyWay 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's great, but Napoleon was teenager. But we don't let 19 year olds become Army generals. Your mom is an exception.

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Ilanna 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's what I was saying. Most women are not fit to be leaders. There are some damn good ones though.

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Jonah_Kyle 7 points ago +9 / -2

Well, that depends on the woman. Normal middle class moms with kids would be more based. Certainly women like those to extremely base congress women Lauren Boebert and Margerie Taylor Green don't fit the Karen mold.

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Amaroq64 8 points ago +8 / -0

Margaret Thatcher.

Ayn Rand.

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WaxMyBallsBernie 3 points ago +3 / -0

And that one time men listened to a women in battle. Don't forget Joan of Arc

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Capitalism_Fuck_Yeah 4 points ago +5 / -1

When you have children and boys you tend to not want to fuck up the world for them.

I wonder if birth control and hormones are not letting female hormones turn them into women instead of girls.

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penguinjay1212 2 points ago +2 / -0

you mean women stunt their growth at 15-16 years old and have a 20% smaller hypothalamus, and are emotionally 16 forever bc of Birth Control?

Bc that is what I believe.

I also believe this is why they are sexualizing children, gonna disrupt their latency phase, and make it so they are emotionally and logically, 6 year olds forever.

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conservativeyuppie 9 points ago +10 / -1

I'll take a Queen Isabella of Castile or Joan of Arc over any modern man whatsoever.

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Jaybird91 2 points ago +4 / -2

LOL based and retard-pilled

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MMazeo 19 points ago +19 / -0

Millennial Instagram moms are the new worst voting block in the nation. Fuckin ignorant twats.

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MAGAMAN4EVA 9 points ago +9 / -0

Yea we often don't know shit here but call it correct from day one anyway. Funny how that works.

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emjayt 6 points ago +6 / -0

Wine mom. Gone from soccer to the bottle.

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Everquest4Life 2 points ago +2 / -0

Love the Sturgill Simpson reference, "they call me king turd up here on shit mountain if you want it you can have the crown!"

Heck yeah pede!

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Prime67 55 points ago +55 / -0

How the fuck you let them go home early? They should be made to stay til 10pm and figure it the fuck out.

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BlaineBug 15 points ago +15 / -0

I remember an old b&w movie being shown when I was in 7th grade "QUEST" about a jury getting pissed off because they were being forced to stay so late in an un-airconditioned room.

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IvIA6A 20 points ago +21 / -1

12 angry men. Great flick

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BlaineBug 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ah yes.

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Jaybird91 6 points ago +8 / -2

One of the best movies ever made 12 angry men

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Plugthegamey -1 points ago +1 / -2

That whole movie was made to highlight how white men are quick to prosecute minorities. That movie sucks I smelled propaganda immediately even when I was 12.

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Jaybird91 1 point ago +1 / -0

🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Grow up. It’s an incredible film.

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Jonah_Kyle 4 points ago +4 / -0

The problem is that the jurists we NEED would be swayed by the Karens and vote him GUILTY. Barnes stated that longer deliberation times favored the guilty verdict proponents, particularly since the ones pushing for guilty have less need for jury deliberations to be shortened because they are upper class Karen snobs who love the power trip they are on.

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BlaineBug 1 point ago +1 / -0

I could see that. However convicting someone is heavy weight. Isn't it something like 90% of the world's populace consider themselves to be religious? Stealing a man's life away would normally be a sin.

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alfredbester 5 points ago +5 / -0

fuck yes

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Fordheartskav 40 points ago +40 / -0

don't. it's one Karen vs a bunch of jurors who know what's up. she will never sway them. hung jury = home for kyle

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WhiteTrashJesus 14 points ago +16 / -2

Unlikely

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Ez_mac 11 points ago +11 / -0

How the fuck can you or anyone know?

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PaineThomas 9 points ago +9 / -0

Because our country is not full of retarded communists. They are a minority. These Karens are a minority. They want you to think they hold all the cards but they don't. Stop giving into their garbage demands. IF there is a Karen, she is hated by everyone else on that jury.

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voiceofreason 3 points ago +3 / -0

Then why the verdict with Floyd? Not a single juror stood up for what was right. I hope and pray you are right, however.

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Thlayli 2 points ago +2 / -0

They had activists lying just to get on the jury in that case. A bunch of them.

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c_programmer 1 point ago +1 / -0

That case was a bit more complex and done in a waaay more progressive area. I think the defense showed reasonable doubt it was boring factual testimony versus a very emotional video. The state here didn't even begin to approach a coherent case all by themselves.

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penguinjay1212 1 point ago +1 / -0

jury selection is a bitch, they are likely all retarded if they are sitting there and were not excused.

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PaineThomas 1 point ago +1 / -0

Years ago, I got picked despite saying I'd not find anyone guilty without undeniable proof. I ended up as an alternate.

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2cor517 1 point ago +1 / -0

These people voted for those chicken shits in office that refused to do their jobs. They also were too much of chicken shits to not go out into the city and defend it themselves, but instead relied on some 17-year-old kid to do the work they refused.

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Slenderman 1 point ago +1 / -0

B-b-b-but biden won with 80 billion I mean million or trillion votes the most in historrrrryyy

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RocksCanOnlyWait 2 points ago +2 / -0

One group related to defense team surveyed Kenosha about their thoughts on the case. 2/3 thought guilty.

Assuming the jury pool has the same ratio as in the survey, it's likely that exposure to facts (versus media lies) could sway at least half, but not all.

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WhiteTrashJesus 2 points ago +2 / -0

Because unless they let binger hand pick the jury, there is no way 10 or 11 out of 12 people out of any sample size think kyle is guilty after seeing all that evidence. Maybe only if you picked them out of protective custody in the local prison

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greatswamp 6 points ago +7 / -1

Could be, but my assumption is that they are asking for the jury instructions to be brought home so that that one individual can scrutinize it as much as possible in order to convince other jurors. A juror who knows Kyle is innocent has no need to convince the rest of the jurors. One holdout is all it takes for a mistrial.

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biginjapan6969 3 points ago +3 / -0

It gives Karen the ability to be virtuous and save face after being rancid to the rest of the jurors IMO.

Honest mistake but after further reading I had to make the decision to acquit.

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farstriderr 3 points ago +3 / -0

Unless the DA decides to do a retrial.

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Jonah_Kyle 2 points ago +2 / -0

Then Kyle had better ditch his bush league defense team and hire Robert Barnes and his associates and tech support team.

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Viewer01 9 points ago +10 / -1

The various rumors indicate that it’s a few activist hold outs. Basically Karens who don’t want an acquittal and want a hung jury or a mistrial. They simply can’t accept his innocence irregardless of evidence.

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MAGAMAN4EVA 5 points ago +5 / -0

A guilty verdict won't mean anything when the judge declares a mistrial. An acquittal means he's free for ever. Heads I win, tails I don't lose.

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Boom2cannon 11 points ago +11 / -0

Mistrial without prejudice is still a 50/50 for Kyle. The prosecution gets another shot to clean up all their mistakes, but Kyle gets the chance to hire competent counsel that will hopefully have a pair of nuts.

Acquittal means Kenosha burns. Mistrial with prejudice means Kenosha burns. Mistrial without prejudice means Kenosha burns. Guilty verdict means that Kenosha burns, but only because it’s during the “Winter Of Love.”

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FitOfficial 5 points ago +5 / -0

A mistrial without prejudice likely results in someone like Robert Barnes representing him which would be goddamned amazing.

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Boom2cannon 2 points ago +2 / -0

Still a scary thing though. It’s a lot of chance to take with someone’s literal life on the line. No matter how it’s cut, I pray Kyle walks a free man and then sues the fucking shit out of everyone.

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Jonah_Kyle 2 points ago +2 / -0

The problem is that the media will be given a reason to REALLY push the narrative against self-defense and 2A. In addition, Kyle will not be able to sue for defamation, though Rekieta live stream panel members indicated that he has some recourse, as long as the jury hung. But full acquittal would be worth a cool billion for the Rittenhouses.

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Nanteen 39 points ago +40 / -1

This jury should have been sequestered from the beginning, it's criminal they did not sequester them at the beginning of the deliberations

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Block_Helen 3 points ago +3 / -0

When juries are sequestered it is for the entirety of the trial, so that they aren't influenced by news and reporting. Very difficult in the age of phones and social media. It isn't done for their protection. Maybe it should be but there's no precedent for that, that I know of.

If they had been sequestered for the entire trial they'd be that much more desperate to get it over with and the "not guilty" jurors might be more susceptible to being hounded into a guilty verdict.

Be careful what you wish for.

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24601 31 points ago +31 / -0

Wait...

If Kyle is wrongly convicted are we allowed to riot, burn, and pillage Leftists in the streets, in their homes, and businesses?

I think so - right. That seems to be the standard... Equal Protection under the Law... Right?

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Luminous_2a 20 points ago +20 / -0

And, according to Herr Prosecutor, any targets don't have the right to defend themselves. 😮

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SaveUsSCOTUS 7 points ago +8 / -1

Don't know till we try lol.

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alfredbester 5 points ago +5 / -0

Let me find my pitchfork. I haven't pillaged in at least a fortnight.

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Amaroq64 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes we do. We live in anarcho-tyranny. The law only applies to non-leftists.

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FuckinCommies 3 points ago +3 / -0

Then why are we submitting to their rules? Fuck em

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BlaineBug 7 points ago +7 / -0

Insurrection 2.0 "Worst day since Pearl Harbor, or is it worst day since the insurrection at the capitol?"

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Jamahawk 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes, it will be the darkest day in American history. That's right, darker than the day the state murdered 1 person!

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IvIA6A 1 point ago +2 / -1

Worst day since leftist took over the treasury building and injured police

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MAGA1775 6 points ago +7 / -1

No, they will come down on you, arrest you, and destroy your lives.

Fair rule of law is dead, and will be even more obvious if Kyle is convicted. Meanwhile, BLM/Antifa can riot, murder, and loot freely.

The law is twisted and only applies to political dissidents like you. Its been weaponized to go against enemies of the regime.

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PaineThomas 6 points ago +6 / -0

They'd have to arrest me first. Considering it'd be hundreds of armed patriots, I would dare them to try. Outgunned, outmanned, and trying to arrest or draw down on me would be a very bad day for any communist pig. Unlike Trump, I'm not afraid to say "go".

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unplugger3214 2 points ago +2 / -0

Last sentenced is incredibly Based.

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PaineThomas 5 points ago +5 / -0

Last time we got together, they shit their pants and started a commission. It seems to be our DUTY to do so. This time, however, it won't be a bunch of unarmed grandmas.

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24601 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think it should be a bunch of unarmed grandmas.

And this time, I think we should live stream the whole thing and repost it on every single website on the planet...

An army of 100,000 unarmed grandmas holding "Free Kyle" signs would be EPIC!

The melt down worldwide be even more EPIC!

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kennedyc5217 28 points ago +29 / -1

For the love of God let there be one juror in there who hates this cancerous SJW Karen bitch enough to do the right thing and make this a hung jury. And of course she’ll leak these docs to MSNBC, go on television and rail about the horrors of the patriarchy and white supremacy.

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Jaybird91 11 points ago +11 / -0

There’s no fucking way that it’s a majority guilty voting verdict with not guilty holdouts. That trial was a fucking SHIT SHOW for the prosecution

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kennedyc5217 8 points ago +8 / -0

Which is exactly why the state and FlufferBoy would do something to get a mistrial for a second try at Kyle

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Jaybird91 6 points ago +6 / -0

If the judge declares a MT, he’s declaring it with prejudice

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MAGA1775 9 points ago +10 / -1

I hope its the other way around (only one holdout political SJWer activist).

If its only one holdout in favor of Kyle, I worry they'll eventually be intimidated, threatened or bribed enough to cave. I've seen it happen way too often to people on our side.

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Pence_Brigade 25 points ago +25 / -0

Guys, she’s going to have Kyle autograph the jury instructions she’s bringing home and sell it on eBay after he’s not found guilty. I know her plan.

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BlaineBug 8 points ago +8 / -0

Trust the plan!

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alfredbester 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'd buy it. $10K Buy It Now

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MetaSlave 21 points ago +21 / -0

There is an activist on the jury. Karen's wearing fucking masks is another give away. Start playing dirty or we lose and don't give me your "we can't stoop to their level" bullshit.

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medicpatriot 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yep this is war

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Perhelion 1 point ago +1 / -0

Can y’all save some 5.56 for the rest of us?👀

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medicpatriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

it's more of a cold or luke warm civil war we are living in right now

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Block_Helen 3 points ago +3 / -0

You don't get to strike every potential member of the jury. Defense gets to strike some and prosecution gets to strike some.

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Tejas_Pepe 21 points ago +21 / -0

Never let them take you alive.

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BlaineBug 5 points ago +5 / -0

Seems like it. For daring to self defend you're dead one of 4 ways. 1) Dead by not self defending. 2) Dead by jury. 3) Dead by SWAT team when you refuse to go. 4) Dead by suicide before 2, 3, or 4 occur. "The land of the free" what a farse.

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pushbackv2 21 points ago +21 / -0

I don't want to be entertained.

I want justice.

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feebleguy 18 points ago +18 / -0

I'd say the jury is at odds and this forewoman is trying everything she can to convince the other jurors.

From the linguistic analysis from Rikietas stream, she seems like a textbook authoritarian Karen.

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Rexmo 1 point ago +1 / -0

Which day was that?

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feebleguy 4 points ago +4 / -0

Barnes talked about it today on Rikieta's stream.

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LindaSarsourCunt 18 points ago +20 / -2

Where are people getting this information that an AWFL is holding out? How on earth would you know that?

I think they're going to try and appease the mob by rendering a guilty verdict on something, which still is justice denied. Why the fuck isn't Grosskreutz on trial for illegal possession of a firearm? It's simple, because they are not afraid of us, because we are not as effective as the woketards. Might need to reconsider how we do things in the future.

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Krat 25 points ago +25 / -0

The bitchy ass notes and the condescending tone of notes from the jury is written in karenese

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slag 7 points ago +7 / -0

what dialect of karenese?

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lefty295 9 points ago +9 / -0

Midwestern Karen.

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Krat 2 points ago +2 / -0

Bingo

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Krat 9 points ago +9 / -0

The bossy better than you know it all who needs to take instructions home so she can prove herself right

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thebeastmobile01 13 points ago +13 / -0

She's the one who asked to take the instructions home.

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Krat 2 points ago +2 / -0

Shes looking to go home, Google shit, go there the next day and tell all the others why they are wrong because SHE single handedly did the work

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Perhelion 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think this is going to be EXACTLY the case. Dr. Google, Esq. will either confirm the positions given to her by the rest of her peers or it will send her further down the rabbit hole of cognitive dissonance.

Hopefully the internet will tell her that the prosecutors have been LYING TO EVERYONE and she was just dumb enough to believe it. Once she hits that realization, she will hate them for making a fool of her.

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Krat 2 points ago +2 / -0

And more than likely double down in her position knowing it's wrong and then becoming fanatical about it

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Aletheia 5 points ago +6 / -1

Posobitch

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RogueCoyote 4 points ago +4 / -0

It's from the stream where Barnes theorized it from literally little more than how the letter 'K' was written on a note.

It's a possibility, but it's also probally entirely bullshit. No one knows what's actually going on. If she's a karen, she could be some 'mama bear' type who's in support of Kyle because he reminds her of her son for all we know.

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RocksCanOnlyWait 1 point ago +2 / -1

Here's the rundown by Viva Frei:

https://youtu.be/JPpfilaCiDw

It's speculation, but a good hypothesis.

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TheMAGAlorian787 18 points ago +19 / -1

Fuck this jury. Seriously, they’re beyond retarded.

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tazhombre 12 points ago +12 / -0

It's not the jury it's the forewoman.

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2224522 17 points ago +17 / -0

Jury goes home early and Kyles heart is tied up in knots and is his family and friends. How evil can you be?

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Block_Helen 9 points ago +9 / -0

Obviously, some of those jurors are on Kyle's side. Gotta keep praying they prevail against the other(s).

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Athena86 -11 points ago +1 / -12

They’re not being evil. You honestly think they are doing this to hurt Kyle

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AbrahamLincoln 6 points ago +6 / -0

At least one of them is.

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Womp_womp 17 points ago +17 / -0

This bitch is calling her DNC appointed lawyer to see how she can fuck Kyle.

I certainly hope she gets her ass busted

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1776ThereIsaidIt 17 points ago +17 / -0

This country has evolved into being divided on ideological lines. Every jury for the foreseeable future will not be impartial and equal justice under law is no longer in effect.

There was a time that people did the right thing no matter their political stripe. Those days are behind us and every liberal that sits on a jury is an activist.

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76LE 17 points ago +17 / -0

Sounds like Karen is having a meltdown. Indicates the rest of the jury have put their heels in.

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Joequill 6 points ago +6 / -0

It's absolutely insane.

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BlaineBug 4 points ago +4 / -0

Purposefully?

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penguinjay1212 1 point ago +1 / -0

maybe she will come in today, fully defeated, and do the right thing.

or maybe she can't bring herself to do the right thing and wants to martyr herself instead, and then the cats can eat her face.

One can dream...

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Filthy_MALE 14 points ago +15 / -1

This trial will be dragged out because the powers that be need a distraction.

Don’t be surprised if it goes on until 2022.

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BlaineBug 7 points ago +7 / -0

Didn't take that long for Chauvin.

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IvIA6A 7 points ago +8 / -1

They should have changed venues. They were legitimately afraid if they acquitted.

Imagine if Kyle tagged jumpkick man..

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BlaineBug 7 points ago +7 / -0

Jury intimidation seems to have as much of a foothold as election fraud. The days I'm excited over "evidence" are long gone now.

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MAGA1775 4 points ago +5 / -1

Yep, this will keep all the conservatives/Trump supporters focused on the distraction until 2022, where they'll then pull another steal.

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booga 3 points ago +3 / -0

I mean, they don't need to distract us to steal an election as 2020 showed.

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Filthy_MALE 2 points ago +2 / -0

People don’t like to hear it, but cons have goldfish memories.

Or more likely, they have been wronged so many times and so frequently that they simply forget the infernal army arrayed against them.

Rip and tear.

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hunterforprison 13 points ago +13 / -0

Imagine how fucked in the head you have to be to convicted a kid for shooting a pedophile that was trying to kill him.

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TrumpMyMann 7 points ago +7 / -0

Peak clown world right now.

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penguinjay1212 1 point ago +1 / -0

THIS.

I am literally dropping people from my life bc they are either stupid, ignorant or evil.

Proclaimed patriots even wanting this kid punished, all arguments hinging on the gun charge, WHICH WAS DISMISSED! Now he still argues for punishing him.

I can't have these stupid people in my life anymore. You're fucked up if you want to punish a hero, a CHILD HERO, for doing the right thing.

If you want to see a young man's life ruined bc he was protecting his community while police stood down, then I don't want you in my life at all.

I'm done w faggots who can't see the truth. This goes for girlfriends, dudes I chill w, anything, I'm done w these anti American faggots.

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Athena86 0 points ago +1 / -1

Kyle didn’t know he was a pedophile.

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hunterforprison 1 point ago +1 / -0

no you don't say

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LUXURY_USERNAME 12 points ago +12 / -0

Where is the damning “beyond reasonable doubt” evidence?? This is bullshit, we are so far beyond the threshold of chaos if jury members don’t have basic common sense and understanding of language. They all think politically instead of literally.

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Block_Helen 3 points ago +3 / -0

Not all, obviously. If they all did, Kyle would be convicted by now. Pray for the ones who are arguing self-defense because we wouldn't still be waiting if they weren't in that room.

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Block_Helen 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don't care how long we wait if it goes our way. Long deliberations > instant conviction.

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Jaybird91 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wot. No way. Link

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Zadok 1 point ago +1 / -0

No more Robitussin and driving for you.

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penguinjay1212 1 point ago +1 / -0

RatRods are gonna become common. Ratchbacks as well. RUVs. Etc. I'm not going to go along w their faggot plan, their goal is to ruin everything while they "look good"

Our battery tech is not up to snuff to replace partial combustion small motors.

Some people carry 400 Gallons of petrol into the woods to work. We're not gonna do that w batteries or the sun. FUCK THE NEW SHIT.

I'll ride a fuckin scooter before I buy a new vehicle with all this commie bullshit attached.

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PromiseImNotASpook 1 point ago +1 / -0

It was part of the infrastructure bill, because of course it was. You can guess that MADD was behind it.

https://archive.ph/rtSTr

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Block_Helen 1 point ago +1 / -0

Mothers Against Drunk Driving

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Block_Helen 1 point ago +1 / -0

Descended directly from the women who brought you the temperance movement and Prohibition.

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penguinjay1212 2 points ago +2 / -0

annoying bitches, go whine at kids who got a .02 driving after consumption underage. Try to guilt them. Get them all pissed off and probably more intent on drunk driving in their lifetimes.

MADD = Dare in effectiveness.

Fuck those people. Blathering emotionally charged idiots. Not logical at all.

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PromiseImNotASpook 1 point ago +1 / -0

Mothers Against Drunk Driving.

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gamephreak5 -2 points ago +1 / -3

Good thing I don't drink.

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ExileOnRedditStreet 10 points ago +10 / -0

Hung jury?

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TraitorJoes 35 points ago +35 / -0

No, just average. Maybe 5 inches.

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MAGAMAN4EVA 6 points ago +6 / -0

For all we know it could be just one wine mom who is only 5 inches.

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Perhelion 3 points ago +3 / -0

You poor bastard

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FitOfficial 1 point ago +1 / -0

Adjust for the yaw

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_Cabal_ 4 points ago +4 / -0

If they find him guilty, yes.

Oh, wait... you meant...

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Captinhowdy45 9 points ago +9 / -0

I still don't understand why in this kind of high profile case. The jury isn't sequestered by default.

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6969 3 points ago +3 / -0

because OJ Simpson they sequestered the jury for 265 days. that is pretty cruel to the jury tbh. i think sequestering during the deliberation could be better.

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Krat 1 point ago +1 / -0

Doesn't prosecution decide?

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AJoeDD 8 points ago +8 / -0

I saw on the Rekieta stream they said that yesterday one jury member, suspected forewoman, talked back to the judge, which they made a great many inferences about. I'm wondering, what did she say to talk back? I heard something about a joke about the Judge wouldn't know if they sat in his chair, after he had joked don't sit in my chair before they cleared the room.

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AJoeDD 4 points ago +4 / -0

Well that's surprising. They're really conspiratorial in reading into that. They say "talking back", but it was like a boomer suburbanite's bad joke that the Judge sort of liked. I'm surprised how much all the lawyers built on such a weak premise. I know Barnes did Jury research, so maybe I'm not seeing the whole picture, but this sounds weak. There's a high chance Barnes is right, or just having a lefty holdhout in any random group of 12, but I'd avoid definitive conclusions like they've made. It looks bad if it turns out wrong.

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AJoeDD 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah. I wanted to avoid thinking that way, but they're grasping at straws to feed into things we'd be happy to buy into seems like grifting. I like Barnes a lot for what he's done, and I'm sure there are good things about the others too. But I'm not going to blindly follow and kiss ass like a leftie b/c they're on my team. They made mistakes in that respect, but in any case, they've helped in a lot of other more important areas.

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PsyRes 8 points ago +8 / -0

Just my thoughts but if it’s taking this long to reach a verdict, doesn’t that mean there are shadows of doubt… Cmon people, Let this kid go home! It’s obvious to me that he is really good kid that was faced with a difficult situation. He had no choice but to defend himself or be killed. It baffles the hell out of me how people refuse to imagine this with the opposite outcome. He would have been shot and/or beaten to death by a mob of people who were there for no other reason than to do real harm. Kyle was there for noble reasons and in no way wanted to have to kill anyone.

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Block_Helen 3 points ago +4 / -1

You don't know that. Deep down, Karens want to be liked and approved. They are sheep for a reason.

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Block_Helen 3 points ago +3 / -0

I hear you but ultimately they're weak and they cave to social pressure. We see it all around us.

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OkieRedPiller 7 points ago +7 / -0

Its not uncommon - if one jurist had a prescheduled doc appt - for the judge to do this. Could be all kinds of legit reasons to leave early. When I did a jury we had a preggo and she had appts to make so judge worked around it to keep her on it.

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BladeX10 7 points ago +7 / -0

Shouldve been done and over within an hour. There are some paid shills on that jury holding it up. Fuck this system. If there is a woke piece of shit on that jury, Youre absolutely fucked

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penguinjay1212 7 points ago +7 / -0

Yeaaaa boiii, I AMM ENTERTAINED.

But FR. Fuck this BS /.

Free my nigga Kyle.

#FREEKYLE

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Wrexxis780 7 points ago +7 / -0

I thought the people who said 2 more weeks were joking...

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JBlaze056 7 points ago +7 / -0

Looking more and more like a mistrial

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RaberContour 7 points ago +7 / -0

I wonder if we can find this holdout cunt who brought the instructions home on Reddit or somewhere asking for legal advice

Would be good if we could prove she is soliciting advice and discussing the trial

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Athena86 1 point ago +2 / -1

They gave them 11 copies.

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Block_Helen 1 point ago +1 / -0

Tonight they gave out 11 copies to take home? We know they were asked for and provided on day 1 of deliberations.

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mateus 6 points ago +6 / -0

Among other things, ELEVEN copies of the judge's jury instructions were requested and provided. What, are they looking for something...anything to hang on this kid?.

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one_cool 3 points ago +4 / -1

She (antifa/blm agent) probably took ten copies to her secret lawyers at the chinese consulate/ccp democrat headquarters for analysis. One copy to sell on ebay.

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mateus 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lol!

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AbrahamLincoln 1 point ago +1 / -0

11 copies? Who didn't get one?

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parkwaytrash 6 points ago +6 / -0

I say it's all planned, so the rioting can start on a weekend

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chickeninoven 2 points ago +3 / -1

Not true. To them, any chaos is good chaos.

Can't "build back better" if you don't tear it down first.

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AbrahamLincoln 1 point ago +1 / -0

Pedo Joe doesn't give a fuck about polling. He was installed after losing in a landslide.

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Hunter4467 6 points ago +6 / -0

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!

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MohaveSkipper 6 points ago +6 / -0

Not when someone's life is at stake.

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BCIARIDC 6 points ago +6 / -0

Some jurors taking advantage of paid time off prolly.

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BlaineBug 5 points ago +5 / -0

I think I'd rather be at work than be at the county court. Back in 2014 me and my Father got called simultaneously. My number didn't end up getting picked so I didn't have to show up at all, but he did. Initially I was looking forward to a day off, but then I started thinking about it, I'd actually have to leave earlier in the morning to get there on time, and then sit around and do nothing for god knows how many hours. Glad I never had to go, overall!

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slag 5 points ago +5 / -0

stretch it to thanksgiving

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LostSailor 1 point ago +1 / -0

Then I suggest they volunteer for federal court. Grand Jurys and estate cases take on average of 720 days.

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TheDomeToYou 5 points ago +5 / -0

Can you take an 11-1 or even a 10-2 in the US?

In the UK, judges can allow that if they feel there is a good reason.

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BunnyPicnic 13 points ago +13 / -0

It's absolutely insane that with all this video evidence, that a jury is needed at all. Like, show the raw footage, and the case is over. Fucking stupid.

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BlaineBug 4 points ago +4 / -0

A lot of people are "scared" of guns. More So than ever, even though gun sales are through the roof more so than ever just the same. We're quickly polarizing/balkanizing. Don't you think so?

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_Cabal_ 2 points ago +2 / -0

State should have never brought the charges.

They charged him before even gathering all evidence, reviewing all videos, and conducting interviews.

They charged him within 48 hours.

The photojournalist who testified in the trial and who provided material evidence wasn't even interviewed until 17 days after the shooting, IIRC.

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PepePinochet [S] 6 points ago +6 / -0

no, must be unanimous

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Block_Helen 1 point ago +1 / -0

No. Verdicts must be unanimous on all charges.

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MAGA-Fett 5 points ago +5 / -0

Karen #1 needs to go over the jury instructions overnight. Must be teeing us up for Friday Night Riots.

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Athena86 1 point ago +2 / -1

She asked for eleven copies.

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GoreDoor 4 points ago +4 / -0

Are you not entertained?!

But in all seriousness... this shit has gone on long enough.

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BeerAndCope 4 points ago +4 / -0

So fucking ridiculous that it is taking this long. I was truly expecting a 1-2 hour deliberation with a not guilty verdict. It is impossible for any reasonable person to look at this and believe beyond a reasonable doubt this was not self defense. Impossible.

I can understand someone having reasonable doubt that it was self defense. Ok fine you have some doubt and believe it is reasonably possible Kyle provoked the conflict. That’s not enough. You have to believe beyond a doubt that he provoked it to vote guilty. It is fucking objectively fact that has not been proven at all.

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Zadok 2 points ago +2 / -0

Mask wearing Karens are not "reasonable people".

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Cali_kid 3 points ago +3 / -0

1776th like 😉

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NoComment 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hung jury time

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hillaryforprison 3 points ago +4 / -1

None of this means anything until we hear their decision. I would be surprised if its not a mistrial, however. The stupid defense should have been pushing mistrial with prejudice. But they seem like softies and I'm not impressed with them so far.

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SaveUsSCOTUS 4 points ago +5 / -1

They think the evidence speaks for itself, which in clown world - it does not.

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Block_Helen 2 points ago +2 / -0

They did file a motion for mistrial with prejudice, I believe.

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slag 1 point ago +1 / -0

they are flaccid

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GeneralVeers 3 points ago +3 / -0

No, I am not entertained. Because the Lion is cooped up in a courthouse instead of killing pedos and wife-beaters.

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sustainable_saltmine 3 points ago +3 / -0

What happened to jurors being sequestered? They get to go back to their homes?

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